[Gambas-user] We should offer online Gambas courses!

[richard terry]

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:09:41 am Charlie Reinl wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 31.03.2009, 11:46 +0200 schrieb Benoît Minisini:
> > > I am not saying people should charge for tutorials, I am saying that it
> > > would not be unreasonable if they did. Benoit has done a momentous
> > > amount of work in creating Gambas.  ANd Richard's idea about annodated
> > > code is a great one- except for one flaw.
> > >
> > > That flaw is for the beginner without a systematic method of learning
> > > the language the odds are stacked against him /her.
> > >
> > > But like I said earlier why not have both?
> > >
> > > SOme people can see an example and go OH that's how it works- and
> > > others need more help.  Good example: Algebra why can't kids just look
> > > at the example and understand it?   Even when the example has comments
> > > the children have a hard time following- but with guided instruction
> > > and guided questions and answers then child is more likely to
> > > understand the math.
> > >
> > > Same works for adults not everyone does well solo with a textbook.
> > >
> > > Plus another problem is when people just cut and paste code without
> > > knowing what all the code is for becuase they are told it does x but in
> > > reality it does xyz.
> > >
> > > As far as more work for Benoit I am trying to come up with a way to
> > > lighten the load. :)
> > >
> > > I rreally do understand what you are saying, but I think people are
> > > thinking I a looking to replace a current method.  I am not I want to
> > > another resource to the same methods. For the dummies like my self.
> > >
> > > JB
> > >
> > > charlesg wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > As one of the great unwashed (i.e. less proficient) Gambas users, I
> > > > must say that I prefer Richards approach using annotated code
> > > > examples at a simple level. I don't really feel comfortable with the
> > > > idea of a paid-for tutorial system and feel that 'we' as a user base
> > > > should freely contribute to the project. There is no chance of us
> > > > ever equaling the stupendous contribution of Benoit and to consider
> > > > charging for any contribution that we make is, I feel, not in the
> > > > spirit of Gambas.
> > > >
> > > > I wrote a small intro tutorial to Gambas which features quite well on
> > > > a Google search. I put it on a Wordpress blog so that I could get
> > > > some stats. It is currently viewed about 300 times a month.
> > > >
> > > > Benoit has also kindly used a program of mine as a Gambas example.
> > > > The examples in Gambas could be extended with a beginners section
> > > > although I could see this ending up as being yet more work for
> > > > Benoit.
> > > >
> > > > rgds
> >
> > Would it be possible to have both solutions? I mean:
> >
> > 1) A web site to enter well-commented and well-written pieces of code,
> > tagged so that searching is easy.
> >
> > 2) An http interface so that the IDE can use these pieces of code as
> > project examples automatically.
> >
> > We must have two types of examples. A full Gambas project that will be
> > used as is by the IDE, or a little piece of code inside one Form, or a
> > Module. Then the IDE will create a temporary project to open it.
> >
> > Guys, what do you think about that?
>
> Salut,
>
> and what is, if you don't have no easy Internet-Access at home?

I really really agree. I live in the middle of a biggist city (Newastle NSW) 
and there are 6 houses in my street that cannot get ADSL, and even my mobile 
phone dosn't work properly in the house. Wireless is very flakey and very 
very expensive and I can't afford satellite, so yes, a downloadable 
repository, integrated with the IDE.

Richard

>
> Ok, first, stop: I find this is a good solution!
>
> But I think the IDE should have a downloaded repository for the
> "Snippets", that could be a simple database file, so everybody can get
> easily updates (from the internet).