From ajw4me at ...466...  Tue Dec  1 09:07:38 2009
From: ajw4me at ...466... (Tony)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:07:38 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after Upgrade
	to Karmic
Message-ID: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>

Hi,

I have a Gambas2 application (gb.qt) checking for status change events 
on the CTS, RI and DSR signals (SerialPort-gb.net class) of a USB to 
serial converter (Prolific pl2303) which works fine on Ubuntu 9.04 
(Gambas2 2.8 and kernel 2.6.28-16-generic 32bit). After upgrade to 
Ubuntu 9.10 (Gambas2 2.13 and kernel 2.6.31-15-generic 32bit) the status 
changes are no longer working. The serial port opens without error but 
no status change events are flagged. The problem is also evident in the 
serial port example on Ubuntu 9.10.

I have compiled Gambas2 2.18 onto Ubuntu 9.04 but it still fails so my 
guess is that somewhere between Gambas2 2.8 and 2.13 this functionality 
stopped working.

Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks..



From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 11:19:34 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:19:34 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
Message-ID: <f4c183100912010219y18738587kd23e325ad7a30774@...627...>

Tony,

Try to compile gambas2 again. I got similar problem with apps after upgrade
ubuntu from 9.04 yo 9.10 and it was necessary to do this:

sudo apt-get install build-essential autoconf libbz2-dev libfbclient2
libmysqlclient15-dev unixodbc-dev libpq-dev libsqlite0-dev
libsqlite3-dev libgtk2.0-dev libldap2-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev
libgtkglext1-dev libpcre3-dev libsdl-sound1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
libsdl-image1.2-dev libsage-dev libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev
libbonobo2-dev libcos4-dev libomniorb4-dev librsvg2-dev libpoppler-dev
libpoppler-glib-dev libasound2-dev libesd0-dev libesd-alsa0
libdirectfb-dev libaa1-dev libxtst-dev libffi-dev kdelibs4-dev
firebird2.1-dev libqt4-dev

and after I downloaded gambas from source and compile again.

Hope this works for you.

Regards,
Ricardo D?az

2009/12/1 Tony <ajw4me at ...466...>

> Hi,
>
> I have a Gambas2 application (gb.qt) checking for status change events
> on the CTS, RI and DSR signals (SerialPort-gb.net class) of a USB to
> serial converter (Prolific pl2303) which works fine on Ubuntu 9.04
> (Gambas2 2.8 and kernel 2.6.28-16-generic 32bit). After upgrade to
> Ubuntu 9.10 (Gambas2 2.13 and kernel 2.6.31-15-generic 32bit) the status
> changes are no longer working. The serial port opens without error but
> no status change events are flagged. The problem is also evident in the
> serial port example on Ubuntu 9.10.
>
> I have compiled Gambas2 2.18 onto Ubuntu 9.04 but it still fails so my
> guess is that somewhere between Gambas2 2.8 and 2.13 this functionality
> stopped working.
>
> Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks..
>
>
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From wdahn at ...1000...  Tue Dec  1 14:49:57 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:49:57 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem building Gambas3 on openSUSE 11.2
In-Reply-To: <200911272244.54194.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B06613E.3000801@...1000...>	<200911211143.00824.gambas@...1...>	<4B07D684.8020109@...1000...>
	<200911272244.54194.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B151F05.2050400@...1000...>

On 28/11/09 05:44, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> On 21/11/09 18:43, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>     
>>>> On 20/11/09 17:28, Werner wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Suse 11.2 came out last week. I seem to remember that it worked fine
>>>>> with 11.1 using qt3.
>>>>>
>>>>> My problem is that I can't configure support for Qt (I don't care about
>>>>> the other parts).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying this now with trunk rev 2429 but have also tried it with a
>>>>> trunk from maybe 10 days ago.
>>>>>           
>>>> Update:
>>>> I have built Gambas3 with Suse11.1/qt3 and Suse11.2/qt4 side by side.
>>>> On 11.1 moc is found in /usr/lib/qt3/bin/
>>>>
>>>> On 11.2 moc is in /usr/bin (for Qt Creator, very nice, btw) and also in
>>>> /usr/lib64/qt4/bin
>>>> but it is not found. I've tried
>>>> ./configure --with-moc=/usr/lib64/qt4/bin/moc but that made no
>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>> I can build and run an example program with Qt Creator so the building
>>>> apps all seem to be there.
>>>>
>>>> Also, there does not seem to be any libqt-mt.so in qt4.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>> Werner
>>>>         
>>> What are you talking about? Compiling gb.qt (Qt3) or compiling gb.qt4
>>> (Qt4)?
>>>
>>> Qt3 moc is found by searching in a list of hard-coded directories.
>>>
>>> Qt4 moc is found by using pkg-config.
>>>
>>> So please be clearer so that I can see what happens exactly!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>       
>> Suse 11.2 comes with Qt 4.5.3 which is what I would prefer to use.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Werner
>>
>>     
> You don't decide! The gb.qt component needs Qt3, and the gb.qt4 component 
> needs Qt4. And I don't see where you have a problem: if Qt3 is not installed 
> on your system, you won't have any gb.qt.* components: gb.qt, gb.qt.ext, 
> gb.qt.opengl, gb.qt.kde...
>
> Regards,
>
>
>   
You are right, it was my wishful thinking.
It works now. Thanks!

Werner




From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 16:42:31 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:42:31 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] SYSTEM NOTIFICATIONS
Message-ID: <f4c183100912010742k43643ac9q615fe8e6ca6db023@...627...>

Is there some way to call os system notifications (something like "Files
copy finished")  in gambas2?


From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 18:04:43 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:04:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Xview selection cursor info
In-Reply-To: <4B144C5E.8040002@...626...>
References: <4B144C5E.8040002@...626...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912010904x670af36bvfddfae4711ab9359@...627...>

http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/gridview/mode
http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/gridview/row

and the third question ????? i don't understand what you want ?

 first visible row :

irow = GridView1.RowAt(1)

LastVisible Row :

irow = GridView1.RowAt(GridView.ClientHeight - 1)


But it don't say if the Row is fully visible...

You can test a cell

For top :

if GridView[iRow,0].Y <0  and iRow+1 < Gridview.Count then iRow+=1

For bottom

if GridView[iRow,0].Y + GridView[iRow,0].Height >
GridView.ClientHeight and GridView.Count >1 then iRow -= 1


Voila Jean-Yves

2009/11/30 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>:
> Hi,
>
> On a tableview, I need:
> * Make the selection cursor to appear on 1st line at opening,
> * Selection cursor's position (row) into the grid,
> * 1st & last rows visible into the grid
>
> I how could I get that?
>
> --
> So, is the glass half empty, half full, or just twice as
> large as it needs to be?
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Dec  1 18:33:24 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:33:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SYSTEM NOTIFICATIONS
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100912010742k43643ac9q615fe8e6ca6db023@...627...>
References: <f4c183100912010742k43643ac9q615fe8e6ca6db023@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912011833.24179.gambas@...1...>

> Is there some way to call os system notifications (something like "Files
> copy finished")  in gambas2?

Not directly, even in Gambas 3. If you know where I can find the 
specifications... I think, for Gambas 3, that a DBus call should be enough, 
but which one?

Anyway I guess there is a command-line tool somewhere that does the job. 
Otherwise it will not be a true Unix thing!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From 12ukwn at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 18:34:17 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:34:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Xview selection cursor info
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912010904x670af36bvfddfae4711ab9359@...627...>
References: <4B144C5E.8040002@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912010904x670af36bvfddfae4711ab9359@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B155399.6050603@...626...>

Fabien Bodard a ?crit :

@#&!? Murphy: the only one I didn't test:(

> and the third question ????? i don't understand what you want ?

this is Q3
>  first visible row :
> 
> irow = GridView1.RowAt(1)
> 
> LastVisible Row :
> 
> irow = GridView1.RowAt(GridView.ClientHeight - 1)

this Q3 enhanced 
> But it don't say if the Row is fully visible...
> 
> You can test a cell
> 
> For top :
> 
> if GridView[iRow,0].Y <0  and iRow+1 < Gridview.Count then iRow+=1
> 
> For bottom
> 
> if GridView[iRow,0].Y + GridView[iRow,0].Height >
> GridView.ClientHeight and GridView.Count >1 then iRow -= 1
 
in Q1, I wanna make the selection cursor (bar) appear @ windows opening
on the first row (otherwise I must click on a row for it being visible)

in Q2, I wanna know what is this cursor position (if it is visible)
as row-into-the-visible-area (indian cursor)

 
> Voila Jean-Yves

Thanks Fabien

> 2009/11/30 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On a tableview, I need:
>> * Make the selection cursor to appear on 1st line at opening,
>> * Selection cursor's position (row) into the grid,
>> * 1st & last rows visible into the grid

-- 
Reporter:   "How did you like school when you were growing up, Yogi?"
Yogi Berra: "Closed."



From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 18:41:43 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:41:43 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] SYSTEM NOTIFICATIONS
In-Reply-To: <200912011833.24179.gambas@...1...>
References: <f4c183100912010742k43643ac9q615fe8e6ca6db023@...627...>
	<200912011833.24179.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <f4c183100912010941p209cc55akaa85a8a49f634a81@...627...>

Thanks Benoit. There is a comand line in debian I can use: notify-send

Regards,
Ricardo D?az


2009/12/1 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > Is there some way to call os system notifications (something like "Files
> > copy finished")  in gambas2?
>
> Not directly, even in Gambas 3. If you know where I can find the
> specifications... I think, for Gambas 3, that a DBus call should be enough,
> but which one?
>
> Anyway I guess there is a command-line tool somewhere that does the job.
> Otherwise it will not be a true Unix thing!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 18:52:28 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:52:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Xview selection cursor info
In-Reply-To: <4B155399.6050603@...626...>
References: <4B144C5E.8040002@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912010904x670af36bvfddfae4711ab9359@...627...>
	<4B155399.6050603@...626...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912010952o67e2316et9778a970ff56b064@...627...>

2009/12/1 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>:
> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
>
> @#&!? Murphy: the only one I didn't test:(
>
>> and the third question ????? i don't understand what you want ?
>
> this is Q3
>> ?first visible row :
>>
>> irow = GridView1.RowAt(1)
>>
>> LastVisible Row :
>>
>> irow = GridView1.RowAt(GridView.ClientHeight - 1)
>
> this Q3 enhanced
>> But it don't say if the Row is fully visible...
>>
>> You can test a cell
>>
>> For top :
>>
>> if GridView[iRow,0].Y <0 ?and iRow+1 < Gridview.Count then iRow+=1
>>
>> For bottom
>>
>> if GridView[iRow,0].Y + GridView[iRow,0].Height >
>> GridView.ClientHeight and GridView.Count >1 then iRow -= 1
>
> in Q1, I wanna make the selection cursor (bar) appear @ windows opening
> on the first row (otherwise I must click on a row for it being visible)

simple :)
GridView1.Row = 0

(it work I've tested it


> in Q2, I wanna know what is this cursor position (if it is visible)
> as row-into-the-visible-area (indian cursor)
>

http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/.gridviewcell/ensurevisible?v3

GridView[iRow,0].EnsureVisible



>> Voila Jean-Yves
>
> Thanks Fabien
>
>> 2009/11/30 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On a tableview, I need:
>>> * Make the selection cursor to appear on 1st line at opening,
>>> * Selection cursor's position (row) into the grid,
>>> * 1st & last rows visible into the grid
>
> --
> Reporter: ? "How did you like school when you were growing up, Yogi?"
> Yogi Berra: "Closed."
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 19:05:44 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:05:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Xview selection cursor info
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912010952o67e2316et9778a970ff56b064@...627...>
References: <4B144C5E.8040002@...626...>	<6324a42a0912010904x670af36bvfddfae4711ab9359@...627...>	<4B155399.6050603@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912010952o67e2316et9778a970ff56b064@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B155AF8.5060407@...626...>

Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
...
> simple :)
> GridView1.Row = 0
> 
> (it work I've tested it

Already tested: don't work not on your code :(

-- 
Repartee is something we think of twenty-four hours too late.
		-- Mark Twain



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 20:07:37 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:07:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Xview selection cursor info
In-Reply-To: <4B155AF8.5060407@...626...>
References: <4B144C5E.8040002@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912010904x670af36bvfddfae4711ab9359@...627...>
	<4B155399.6050603@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912010952o67e2316et9778a970ff56b064@...627...>
	<4B155AF8.5060407@...626...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912011107x534a3543r518fcb265854284f@...627...>

si :

PUBLIC SUB OBS_Open()

    ' IF IsNull($sfrmNouveau) THEN Error.Raise("Vous devez d?finir un
formulaire Nouveau")
    ' IF IsNull($sModifier) THEN Error.Raise("Vous devez d?finir un
formulaire Modifier")
    IF IsNull($hGrid.DataField) THEN ERROR.Raise("Vous devez definir
le champ identificateur")
   $hGrid.Refresh
   $hGrid.Grid.Row = 0
END


you need to modify FList...


2009/12/1 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>:
> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> ...
>> simple :)
>> GridView1.Row = 0
>>
>> (it work I've tested it
>
> Already tested: don't work not on your code :(
>
> --
> Repartee is something we think of twenty-four hours too late.
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-- Mark Twain
>
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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 21:05:30 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:05:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Xview selection cursor info
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912011107x534a3543r518fcb265854284f@...627...>
References: <4B144C5E.8040002@...626...>	<6324a42a0912010904x670af36bvfddfae4711ab9359@...627...>	<4B155399.6050603@...626...>	<6324a42a0912010952o67e2316et9778a970ff56b064@...627...>	<4B155AF8.5060407@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912011107x534a3543r518fcb265854284f@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B15770A.5050105@...626...>

Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> si :
> 
> PUBLIC SUB OBS_Open()
> 
>     ' IF IsNull($sfrmNouveau) THEN Error.Raise("Vous devez d?finir un
> formulaire Nouveau")
>     ' IF IsNull($sModifier) THEN Error.Raise("Vous devez d?finir un
> formulaire Modifier")
>     IF IsNull($hGrid.DataField) THEN ERROR.Raise("Vous devez definir
> le champ identificateur")
>    $hGrid.Refresh
>    $hGrid.Grid.Row = 0
> END
> 
> 
> you need to modify FList...

Crap: I put it into RichDataGrid instead of here; I still have a great
deal to learn!

Thanks Fabien

-- 
Real computer scientists don't comment their code.  The identifiers are
so long they can't afford the disk space.



From ajw4me at ...466...  Tue Dec  1 21:06:50 2009
From: ajw4me at ...466... (Tony)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:06:50 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working
 after	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100912010219y18738587kd23e325ad7a30774@...627...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<f4c183100912010219y18738587kd23e325ad7a30774@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B15775A.1050304@...466...>


   Thanks for the suggestion Ricardo.
   I have already compiled G2.18 from source onto Ubuntu 9.04. The application
   was working fine on Ubuntu 9.04 with G2.8 but fails with G2.18, so this
   makes  me think that there is a problem which may have been introduced
   between G2.8 and G2.13 (the binary on Ubuntu 9.10 which doesn't work).
   Regards,
   Tony..
   Ricardo D??az Mart??n wrote:

Tony,

Try to compile gambas2 again. I got similar problem with apps after upgrade
ubuntu from 9.04 yo 9.10 and it was necessary to do this:

sudo apt-get install build-essential autoconf libbz2-dev libfbclient2
libmysqlclient15-dev unixodbc-dev libpq-dev libsqlite0-dev
libsqlite3-dev libgtk2.0-dev libldap2-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev
libgtkglext1-dev libpcre3-dev libsdl-sound1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
libsdl-image1.2-dev libsage-dev libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev
libbonobo2-dev libcos4-dev libomniorb4-dev librsvg2-dev libpoppler-dev
libpoppler-glib-dev libasound2-dev libesd0-dev libesd-alsa0
libdirectfb-dev libaa1-dev libxtst-dev libffi-dev kdelibs4-dev
firebird2.1-dev libqt4-dev

and after I downloaded gambas from source and compile again.

Hope this works for you.

Regards,
Ricardo D??az

2009/12/1 Tony [1]<ajw4me at ...466...>



Hi,

I have a Gambas2 application (gb.qt) checking for status change events
on the CTS, RI and DSR signals (SerialPort-gb.net class) of a USB to
serial converter (Prolific pl2303) which works fine on Ubuntu 9.04
(Gambas2 2.8 and kernel 2.6.28-16-generic 32bit). After upgrade to
Ubuntu 9.10 (Gambas2 2.13 and kernel 2.6.31-15-generic 32bit) the status
changes are no longer working. The serial port opens without error but
no status change events are flagged. The problem is also evident in the
serial port example on Ubuntu 9.10.

I have compiled Gambas2 2.18 onto Ubuntu 9.04 but it still fails so my
guess is that somewhere between Gambas2 2.8 and 2.13 this functionality
stopped working.

Any assistance would be appreciated, thanks..


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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Dec  1 21:28:04 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:28:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user]
 =?utf-8?q?Serial_Port_Change_Events_Not_Working_aft?=
 =?utf-8?q?er=09Upgrade_to_Karmic?=
In-Reply-To: <4B15775A.1050304@...466...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<f4c183100912010219y18738587kd23e325ad7a30774@...627...>
	<4B15775A.1050304@...466...>
Message-ID: <200912012128.04710.gambas@...1...>

>    Thanks for the suggestion Ricardo.
>    I have already compiled G2.18 from source onto Ubuntu 9.04. The
>  application was working fine on Ubuntu 9.04 with G2.8 but fails with
>  G2.18, so this makes  me think that there is a problem which may have been
>  introduced between G2.8 and G2.13 (the binary on Ubuntu 9.10 which doesn't
>  work). Regards,
>    Tony..

You are right, and I think I understand what happens:

I have noticed that SerialPort callback took too much CPU, because it was 
using polling on the serial port file descriptor. 

So I fixed it by awaken it only when there is some data to read... Mistake! 

I didn't understand that all DTRChange, DSRChange... events are not detected 
by the kernel. So Daniel (who wrote the code) had to use polling to be able to 
detect the changes.

By removing the polling, I was able to raise the Read event without burning 
CPU, but all *Change events were not raised anymore!

Now I have to find a good fix, but I have never used a serial port, so I need 
some enlightenment (no, I won't run E17...)

- Why do you need detecting DTR,DSR... changes?
- How are these events related to flow control and the FlowControl property?

The last question is not innocent. the FlowControl property takes three 
different values: Hardware, Software, Both. 

I'm thinking adding a fourth value, "None", that means the user does not care. 
In that specific case, I will not poll, and *Change events won't be raised.

So you will be able to decide:

- Setting FlowControl to None. You will get the Read event only, but you won't 
burn CPU power.

- Setting FlowControl to any other value. You will get all events, but you 
will have to poll.

This change would be compatible with the current SerialPort interface.

Otherwise, for Gambas 3, maybe I will add a new property to define how much 
polling is needed.

What do serial port people think about that?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Dec  1 21:29:54 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:29:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Xview selection cursor info
In-Reply-To: <4B15770A.5050105@...626...>
References: <4B144C5E.8040002@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912010904x670af36bvfddfae4711ab9359@...627...>
	<4B155399.6050603@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912010952o67e2316et9778a970ff56b064@...627...>
	<4B155AF8.5060407@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912011107x534a3543r518fcb265854284f@...627...>
	<4B15770A.5050105@...626...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912011229j85b17b5uec68dff1092a013e@...627...>

2009/12/1 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>:
> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
>> si :
>>
>> PUBLIC SUB OBS_Open()
>>
>> ? ? ' IF IsNull($sfrmNouveau) THEN Error.Raise("Vous devez d?finir un
>> formulaire Nouveau")
>> ? ? ' IF IsNull($sModifier) THEN Error.Raise("Vous devez d?finir un
>> formulaire Modifier")
>> ? ? IF IsNull($hGrid.DataField) THEN ERROR.Raise("Vous devez definir
>> le champ identificateur")
>> ? ?$hGrid.Refresh
>> ? ?$hGrid.Grid.Row = 0
>> END
>>
>>
>> you need to modify FList...
>
> Crap: I put it into RichDataGrid instead of here; I still have a great
> deal to learn!

in fact the use of observer make things sometime special


> Thanks Fabien
>
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> so long they can't afford the disk space.
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From ajw4me at ...466...  Tue Dec  1 22:54:42 2009
From: ajw4me at ...466... (Tony)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:54:42 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
 Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912012128.04710.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<f4c183100912010219y18738587kd23e325ad7a30774@...627...>	<4B15775A.1050304@...466...>
	<200912012128.04710.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1590A2.6040706@...466...>


   Thanks Benoit and all for your speedy replies..
   I'm using the serial port in a timing application with 3 laser through beam
   sensors feeding into the CTS, RI and DSR lines of the serial port. In this
   mode I don't pass any data, don't really care about flow control and am only
   interested in the raw status change events. Working this way I haven't
   noticed gross CPU utilisation after opening the port.  The application also
   uses the UDPsocket to communicate remotely and what I have noticed is that
   if the serial port does not open correctly e.g. "/dev/tty" wrong and the
   UDPsocket is open, then there is a large amount of CPU used. Both open
   correctly and CPU normal.
   Can you tell me the polling frequency in Gambas2 2.8 ?
   I would assume that there ore other users of Gambas2 who are using the
   serial  port  as  a  convenient  way of passing external events to the
   application, so maybe some input from them would also be in order. As long
   as there is a mechanism to replicate the Gambas2 2.8 functionality that I
   currently use, I'll leave the implementation up to those who know a lot more
   than myself. If going back to polling, a property to define the frequency
   would be nice.
   Thanks again,
   Tony.
   Beno?t Minisini wrote:

   Thanks for the suggestion Ricardo.
   I have already compiled G2.18 from source onto Ubuntu 9.04. The
 application was working fine on Ubuntu 9.04 with G2.8 but fails with
 G2.18, so this makes  me think that there is a problem which may have been
 introduced between G2.8 and G2.13 (the binary on Ubuntu 9.10 which doesn't
 work). Regards,
   Tony..
    

You are right, and I think I understand what happens:

I have noticed that SerialPort callback took too much CPU, because it was 
using polling on the serial port file descriptor. 

So I fixed it by awaken it only when there is some data to read... Mistake! 

I didn't understand that all DTRChange, DSRChange... events are not detected 
by the kernel. So Daniel (who wrote the code) had to use polling to be able to 
detect the changes.

By removing the polling, I was able to raise the Read event without burning 
CPU, but all *Change events were not raised anymore!

Now I have to find a good fix, but I have never used a serial port, so I need 
some enlightenment (no, I won't run E17...)

- Why do you need detecting DTR,DSR... changes?
- How are these events related to flow control and the FlowControl property?

The last question is not innocent. the FlowControl property takes three 
different values: Hardware, Software, Both. 

I'm thinking adding a fourth value, "None", that means the user does not care. 
In that specific case, I will not poll, and *Change events won't be raised.

So you will be able to decide:

- Setting FlowControl to None. You will get the Read event only, but you won't 
burn CPU power.

- Setting FlowControl to any other value. You will get all events, but you 
will have to poll.

This change would be compatible with the current SerialPort interface.

Otherwise, for Gambas 3, maybe I will add a new property to define how much 
polling is needed.

What do serial port people think about that?

  


From arosa at ...2015...  Wed Dec  2 00:12:06 2009
From: arosa at ...2015... (Toni)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:12:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SYSTEM NOTIFICATIONS
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100912010941p209cc55akaa85a8a49f634a81@...627...>
References: <f4c183100912010742k43643ac9q615fe8e6ca6db023@...627...>	<200912011833.24179.gambas@...1...>
	<f4c183100912010941p209cc55akaa85a8a49f634a81@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B15A2C6.8050000@...2015...>

Hi,
I haven't tried it, but maybe libnotify 
(http://library.gnome.org/devel/libnotify/) is what it could be used 
here to crate a component?  On the other hand I don't know whether 
freedesktop.org have something similar to xdg-open for desktop neutral 
system notifications...
Despite my previous words, when I needed a notification system and I 
ended up using notify-send too.
Regards,
Toni

En/na Ricardo D?az Mart?n ha escrit:
> Thanks Benoit. There is a comand line in debian I can use: notify-send
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo D?az
>
>
> 2009/12/1 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>
>   
>>> Is there some way to call os system notifications (something like "Files
>>> copy finished")  in gambas2?
>>>       
>> Not directly, even in Gambas 3. If you know where I can find the
>> specifications... I think, for Gambas 3, that a DBus call should be enough,
>> but which one?
>>
>> Anyway I guess there is a command-line tool somewhere that does the job.
>> Otherwise it will not be a true Unix thing!
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
>> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing.
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>>
>>     
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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 02:25:19 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 02:25:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <4B1590A2.6040706@...466...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<200912012128.04710.gambas@...1...>
	<4B1590A2.6040706@...466...>
Message-ID: <200912020225.19440.gambas@...1...>

>    Thanks Benoit and all for your speedy replies..
>    I'm using the serial port in a timing application with 3 laser through
>  beam sensors feeding into the CTS, RI and DSR lines of the serial port. In
>  this mode I don't pass any data, don't really care about flow control and
>  am only interested in the raw status change events. Working this way I
>  haven't noticed gross CPU utilisation after opening the port.  The
>  application also uses the UDPsocket to communicate remotely and what I
>  have noticed is that if the serial port does not open correctly e.g.
>  "/dev/tty" wrong and the UDPsocket is open, then there is a large amount
>  of CPU used. Both open correctly and CPU normal.
>    Can you tell me the polling frequency in Gambas2 2.8 ?
>    I would assume that there ore other users of Gambas2 who are using the
>    serial  port  as  a  convenient  way of passing external events to the
>    application, so maybe some input from them would also be in order. As
>  long as there is a mechanism to replicate the Gambas2 2.8 functionality
>  that I currently use, I'll leave the implementation up to those who know a
>  lot more than myself. If going back to polling, a property to define the
>  frequency would be nice.
>    Thanks again,
>    Tony.

Can you try the revision #2454? I think I have found and fix another possible 
bug, and I'd like to be sure I didn't break anything.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ubuntu at ...2332...  Wed Dec  2 06:03:46 2009
From: ubuntu at ...2332... (D. L. Fox)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:03:46 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Component Show, Hide, Visible
Message-ID: <4B15F532.2010501@...2332...>

Sorry for the newbie question but...

What is the difference between setting the Visible property to False and 
calling the Hide() method?



From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Wed Dec  2 06:14:58 2009
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:14:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  can't call a procedure from a different module
Message-ID: <26603731.post@...1379...>


I'm hoping that I've just overlooked something really obvious and stupid, but
am stumped (perhaps it's the four beers...). I'm receiving the error message
"Unknown symbol 'Init' in class 'Net'" while trying to call a procedure from
a different module. Here's the basic program flow:

(1) Startup module "Startup" runs first on program execution, then calls the
"Main" procedure in the "Server" module.
(2) Module "Server" then calls the procedure "Init" contained within module
"Net" (Net.Init).
(3) GAMBAS raises the previously-mentioned error.

What's strange is that the Startup module can successfully call Server.Main
and Client.Main, both of which are procedures in different modules. The
Client module however can't seem to call procedures from other modules. In
Project Properties I do have "Module symbols are public by default" set to
Yes.

I've posted the project up at:

http://www.eightvirtues.com/misc/Sanctimonia.tar.gz

Any ideas? I'm using GAMBAS 2.17.0 compiled from source. Thanks all.

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From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Wed Dec  2 06:49:49 2009
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:49:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  SDL component documentation
Message-ID: <26603936.post@...1379...>


I've noticed that the documentation for the SDL component is incomplete.
There are some basic examples in the BeastScroll example application
packaged with GAMBAS, but is there a more extensive list of procedures
implemented in GAMBAS for SDL?

I'm guessing that the next best way of figuring out what has been
implemented is to review the source code for the SDL component of GAMBAS. If
that is the case, which source files should I look at to determine which SDL
procedures have been implemented and how they're used? C and C++ source code
is alien to me, so looking at all the files in gb.sdl/src is a bit
intimidating in the context of discovering which procedures will work in
GAMBAS.

I consider SDL an extremely important aspect of GAMBAS, so if I could obtain
the procedures and their usage/parameters I'd be willing to complete the
missing documentation for them using the same syntax as the existing
documentation. Thanks all.

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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Wed Dec  2 08:13:53 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:13:53 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Component Show, Hide, Visible
In-Reply-To: <4B15F532.2010501@...2332...>
References: <4B15F532.2010501@...2332...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912012313l5d677049leb0ddd0be99a0814@...627...>

2009/12/2 D. L. Fox <ubuntu at ...2332...>:
> Sorry for the newbie question but...
>
> What is the difference between setting the Visible property to False and
> calling the Hide() method?

Hide is a method, Visible is a property. You can't check if X is
visible or not by calling Hide().

Otherwise, I dare say the two are synonymous in action.  Gambas has a
few synonyms, possibly for compatibility reasons.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Wed Dec  2 08:17:37 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:17:37 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] can't call a procedure from a different module
In-Reply-To: <26603731.post@...1379...>
References: <26603731.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912012317m355ee291tccd41e9e0874131a@...627...>

2009/12/2 kevinfishburne <kevinfishburne at ...1887...>:

> (2) Module "Server" then calls the procedure "Init" contained within module
> "Net" (Net.Init).

Net is reserved for the Net class of constants in gambas. Rename the module.



From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Wed Dec  2 09:09:34 2009
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 00:09:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] can't call a procedure from a different module
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912012317m355ee291tccd41e9e0874131a@...627...>
References: <26603731.post@...1379...>
	<c811bd7b0912012317m355ee291tccd41e9e0874131a@...627...>
Message-ID: <26604998.post@...1379...>


[SOLVED]


Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> 
> 2009/12/2 kevinfishburne <kevinfishburne at ...1887...>:
> 
>> (2) Module "Server" then calls the procedure "Init" contained within
>> module
>> "Net" (Net.Init).
> 
> Net is reserved for the Net class of constants in gambas. Rename the
> module.
> 
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> 

Thanks. Renaming the network module from "Net" to "Network" worked. I'm glad
is was a simple mistake. Thanks again.

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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Wed Dec  2 10:09:08 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:09:08 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ok, what have I done?
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>

This happens in both Gambas 2.18 and 3.

When I drag a hSplit or a vSplit onto a form, I can't add any controls
to either the left or the right panel because the splitter is not
functioning.

Anyone got any suggestions?
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From ajw4me at ...466...  Wed Dec  2 10:25:19 2009
From: ajw4me at ...466... (Tony)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:25:19 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working
 after	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912020225.19440.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<200912012128.04710.gambas@...1...>	<4B1590A2.6040706@...466...>
	<200912020225.19440.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B16327F.8010801@...466...>


   Hi Benoit,
   I have muddled my way through the subversion bit, hopefully correctly and
   compiled the 2454 version. When opening my application I get the error
   message "The program has stopped unexpectedly raising signal #11" with the
   CPU at 100%. If I try to open the wrong ttyUSBx, the application flags this
   error and behaves correctly, so I would assume that if the ttyUSBx opens OK
   then the most recent Gambas2 changes have induced the "signal #11" problem.
   Can you please let me know how to debug further and assist you with your
   efforts.
   Thanks and regards,
   Tony..
   Beno?t Minisini wrote:

   Thanks Benoit and all for your speedy replies..
   I'm using the serial port in a timing application with 3 laser through
 beam sensors feeding into the CTS, RI and DSR lines of the serial port. In
 this mode I don't pass any data, don't really care about flow control and
 am only interested in the raw status change events. Working this way I
 haven't noticed gross CPU utilisation after opening the port.  The
 application also uses the UDPsocket to communicate remotely and what I
 have noticed is that if the serial port does not open correctly e.g.
 "/dev/tty" wrong and the UDPsocket is open, then there is a large amount
 of CPU used. Both open correctly and CPU normal.
   Can you tell me the polling frequency in Gambas2 2.8 ?
   I would assume that there ore other users of Gambas2 who are using the
   serial  port  as  a  convenient  way of passing external events to the
   application, so maybe some input from them would also be in order. As
 long as there is a mechanism to replicate the Gambas2 2.8 functionality
 that I currently use, I'll leave the implementation up to those who know a
 lot more than myself. If going back to polling, a property to define the
 frequency would be nice.
   Thanks again,
   Tony.
    

Can you try the revision #2454? I think I have found and fix another possible 
bug, and I'd like to be sure I didn't break anything.

Regards,

  


From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec  2 10:44:10 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:44:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SYSTEM NOTIFICATIONS
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100912010941p209cc55akaa85a8a49f634a81@...627...>
References: <f4c183100912010742k43643ac9q615fe8e6ca6db023@...627...>	<200912011833.24179.gambas@...1...>
	<f4c183100912010941p209cc55akaa85a8a49f634a81@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B1636EA.7000007@...1740...>

On Ubuntu 9.10 this tool is not installed by default.

$ notify-send
The program 'notify-send' is currently not installed.  You can install 
it by typing:
sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin
notify-send: command not found

Maybe they use another one.

Regards,
Ron_2nd.
> Thanks Benoit. There is a comand line in debian I can use: notify-send
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo D?az
>
>
> 2009/12/1 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>
>   
>>> Is there some way to call os system notifications (something like "Files
>>> copy finished")  in gambas2?
>>>       
>> Not directly, even in Gambas 3. If you know where I can find the
>> specifications... I think, for Gambas 3, that a DBus call should be enough,
>> but which one?
>>
>> Anyway I guess there is a command-line tool somewhere that does the job.
>> Otherwise it will not be a true Unix thing!
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
>> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing.
>> Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
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>>     
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From ulusoyab at ...43...  Wed Dec  2 10:52:05 2009
From: ulusoyab at ...43... (abdurrahman ulusoy)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 01:52:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] drawingarea limits
Message-ID: <157771.67913.qm@...2266...>

hi
i cant set drawing area width(or drawing area height) ?bigger then 32767 . how can i set bigger then??32767.


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From Karl.Reinl at ...9...  Wed Dec  2 12:01:47 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...9... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:01:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not
	Working	after	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <4B16327F.8010801@...466...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<200912012128.04710.gambas@...1...>
	<4B1590A2.6040706@...466...>
	<200912020225.19440.gambas@...1...>
	<4B16327F.8010801@...466...>
Message-ID: <1259751707.6434.23.camel@...40...>

Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 20:25 +1100 schrieb Tony:
> Hi Benoit,
>    I have muddled my way through the subversion bit, hopefully correctly and
>    compiled the 2454 version. When opening my application I get the error
>    message "The program has stopped unexpectedly raising signal #11" with the
>    CPU at 100%. If I try to open the wrong ttyUSBx, the application flags this
>    error and behaves correctly, so I would assume that if the ttyUSBx opens OK
>    then the most recent Gambas2 changes have induced the "signal #11" problem.
>    Can you please let me know how to debug further and assist you with your
>    efforts.
>    Thanks and regards,
>    Tony..
>    Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> 
>    Thanks Benoit and all for your speedy replies..
>    I'm using the serial port in a timing application with 3 laser through
>  beam sensors feeding into the CTS, RI and DSR lines of the serial port. In
>  this mode I don't pass any data, don't really care about flow control and
>  am only interested in the raw status change events. Working this way I
>  haven't noticed gross CPU utilisation after opening the port.  The
>  application also uses the UDPsocket to communicate remotely and what I
>  have noticed is that if the serial port does not open correctly e.g.
>  "/dev/tty" wrong and the UDPsocket is open, then there is a large amount
>  of CPU used. Both open correctly and CPU normal.
>    Can you tell me the polling frequency in Gambas2 2.8 ?
>    I would assume that there ore other users of Gambas2 who are using the
>    serial  port  as  a  convenient  way of passing external events to the
>    application, so maybe some input from them would also be in order. As
>  long as there is a mechanism to replicate the Gambas2 2.8 functionality
>  that I currently use, I'll leave the implementation up to those who know a
>  lot more than myself. If going back to polling, a property to define the
>  frequency would be nice.
>    Thanks again,
>    Tony.
>     
> 
> Can you try the revision #2454? I think I have found and fix another possible 
> bug, and I'd like to be sure I didn't break anything.
> 
> Regards,

Salut Tony,

you will find how to work with gdb there :

go to http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html

click: Reporting a problem

read : 3. Reporting a crash (a segmentation fault, or a signal #11)


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec  2 13:54:50 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:54:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] textedit html behaviour
Message-ID: <4B16639A.6090304@...1740...>


   Hi,
   I wanted to use a textEdit window to be able to do things like bold/colored
   text etc for individual lines.
   I noticed this behavoir:
       sText = "<b>Text</b>"
       FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Text = sText
   Displays:
   Text
       sText = "<b>Text</b>"
       FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Insert(sText)
   Displays:
   <b>Text</b>
   Is this expected behavior?
   Gambas 2.18.x
   gb.qt
   Ubuntu 9.10
   Regards,
   Ron_2nd.


From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 14:47:24 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:47:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] drawingarea limits
In-Reply-To: <157771.67913.qm@...2266...>
References: <157771.67913.qm@...2266...>
Message-ID: <200912021447.24663.gambas@...1...>

> hi
> i cant set drawing area width(or drawing area height)  bigger then 32767 .
>  how can i set bigger then  32767.
> 

I'm afraid that on X-Window width and height are 16-bits integer. So that 
limit...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 14:52:02 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:52:02 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user]
 =?utf-8?q?Serial_Port_Change_Events_Not_Working=09a?=
 =?utf-8?q?fter=09Upgrade_to_Karmic?=
In-Reply-To: <1259751707.6434.23.camel@...40...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<4B16327F.8010801@...466...>
	<1259751707.6434.23.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <200912021452.02761.gambas@...1...>

> Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 20:25 +1100 schrieb Tony:
> > Hi Benoit,
> >    I have muddled my way through the subversion bit, hopefully correctly
> > and compiled the 2454 version. When opening my application I get the
> > error message "The program has stopped unexpectedly raising signal #11"
> > with the CPU at 100%. If I try to open the wrong ttyUSBx, the application
> > flags this error and behaves correctly, so I would assume that if the
> > ttyUSBx opens OK then the most recent Gambas2 changes have induced the
> > "signal #11" problem. Can you please let me know how to debug further and
> > assist you with your efforts.
> >    Thanks and regards,
> >    Tony..
> >    Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> >
> >    Thanks Benoit and all for your speedy replies..
> >    I'm using the serial port in a timing application with 3 laser through
> >  beam sensors feeding into the CTS, RI and DSR lines of the serial port.
> > In this mode I don't pass any data, don't really care about flow control
> > and am only interested in the raw status change events. Working this way
> > I haven't noticed gross CPU utilisation after opening the port.  The
> > application also uses the UDPsocket to communicate remotely and what I
> > have noticed is that if the serial port does not open correctly e.g.
> > "/dev/tty" wrong and the UDPsocket is open, then there is a large amount
> > of CPU used. Both open correctly and CPU normal.
> >    Can you tell me the polling frequency in Gambas2 2.8 ?
> >    I would assume that there ore other users of Gambas2 who are using the
> >    serial  port  as  a  convenient  way of passing external events to the
> >    application, so maybe some input from them would also be in order. As
> >  long as there is a mechanism to replicate the Gambas2 2.8 functionality
> >  that I currently use, I'll leave the implementation up to those who know
> > a lot more than myself. If going back to polling, a property to define
> > the frequency would be nice.
> >    Thanks again,
> >    Tony.
> >
> >
> > Can you try the revision #2454? I think I have found and fix another
> > possible bug, and I'd like to be sure I didn't break anything.
> >
> > Regards,
> 
> Salut Tony,
> 
> you will find how to work with gdb there :
> 
> go to http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html
> 
> click: Reporting a problem
> 
> read : 3. Reporting a crash (a segmentation fault, or a signal #11)
> 

And another often more interesting way of debugging is using 'valgrind':

$ cd /path/to/my/project
$ valgrind --tool=memcheck --num-callers=50 gbx2
...

And then you send me the output written by valgrind.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 14:52:39 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:52:39 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ok, what have I done?
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912021452.39709.gambas@...1...>

> This happens in both Gambas 2.18 and 3.
> 
> When I drag a hSplit or a vSplit onto a form, I can't add any controls
> to either the left or the right panel because the splitter is not
> functioning.
> 
> Anyone got any suggestions?
> 

I'm not sure to really understand what you are talking about there...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec  2 14:31:03 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:31:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Qt Slider orientation
Message-ID: <4B166C17.4090107@...1740...>

Hi,

why is it not possible (so it seems to me) to set a sliders orientation 
to vertical in Gambas?

http://doc.qt.nokia.com/3.3/qslider.html#orientation-prop


Gambas 2.18.x
gb.qt
Ubuntu 9.10

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec  2 15:02:20 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:02:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
 Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912021452.02761.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<4B16327F.8010801@...466...>	<1259751707.6434.23.camel@...40...>
	<200912021452.02761.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B16736C.4090807@...1740...>

Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 20:25 +1100 schrieb Tony:
>>     
>>> Hi Benoit,
>>>    I have muddled my way through the subversion bit, hopefully correctly
>>> and compiled the 2454 version. When opening my application I get the
>>> error message "The program has stopped unexpectedly raising signal #11"
>>> with the CPU at 100%. If I try to open the wrong ttyUSBx, the application
>>> flags this error and behaves correctly, so I would assume that if the
>>> ttyUSBx opens OK then the most recent Gambas2 changes have induced the
>>> "signal #11" problem. Can you please let me know how to debug further and
>>> assist you with your efforts.
>>>    Thanks and regards,
>>>    Tony..
>>>    Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>>
>>>    Thanks Benoit and all for your speedy replies..
>>>    I'm using the serial port in a timing application with 3 laser through
>>>  beam sensors feeding into the CTS, RI and DSR lines of the serial port.
>>> In this mode I don't pass any data, don't really care about flow control
>>> and am only interested in the raw status change events. Working this way
>>> I haven't noticed gross CPU utilisation after opening the port.  The
>>> application also uses the UDPsocket to communicate remotely and what I
>>> have noticed is that if the serial port does not open correctly e.g.
>>> "/dev/tty" wrong and the UDPsocket is open, then there is a large amount
>>> of CPU used. Both open correctly and CPU normal.
>>>    Can you tell me the polling frequency in Gambas2 2.8 ?
>>>    I would assume that there ore other users of Gambas2 who are using the
>>>    serial  port  as  a  convenient  way of passing external events to the
>>>    application, so maybe some input from them would also be in order. As
>>>  long as there is a mechanism to replicate the Gambas2 2.8 functionality
>>>  that I currently use, I'll leave the implementation up to those who know
>>> a lot more than myself. If going back to polling, a property to define
>>> the frequency would be nice.
>>>    Thanks again,
>>>    Tony.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you try the revision #2454? I think I have found and fix another
>>> possible bug, and I'd like to be sure I didn't break anything.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>       
>> Salut Tony,
>>
>> you will find how to work with gdb there :
>>
>> go to http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html
>>
>> click: Reporting a problem
>>
>> read : 3. Reporting a crash (a segmentation fault, or a signal #11)
>>
>>     
>
> And another often more interesting way of debugging is using 'valgrind':
>
> $ cd /path/to/my/project
> $ valgrind --tool=memcheck --num-callers=50 gbx2
> ...
>
> And then you send me the output written by valgrind.
>
> Regards,
>
>   
Beno?t,

I updated to 2454 and have signal 11's too, right away while starting my 
program.

This is the bt:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
GB_Raise (object=0x11, event_id=0, nparam=0) at gbx_api.c:528
528        OBJECT_REF(object, "GB_Raise");
(gdb) bt
#0  GB_Raise (object=0x11, event_id=0, nparam=0) at gbx_api.c:528
#1  0x00b99cd5 in CSerialPort_ReadCallBack (_object=0x11) at 
CSerialPort.c:175
#2  0x08060997 in raise_callback (wait=<value optimized out>) at 
gbx_watch.c:425
#3  do_loop (wait=<value optimized out>) at gbx_watch.c:498
#4  0x08060b04 in WATCH_loop () at gbx_watch.c:530
#5  0x08061b72 in main (argc=134739040, argv=0xbffff4e4) at gbx.c:358
(gdb)

I'm recompiling without optimizations at this moment, so better 
backtrace is coming...

I only have Flowcontrol = 0 in all of my serial port code.

Gambas 2.18.x
gb.qt
Ubuntu 9.10

Kind Regards,
Ron_2nd.




From pinozollo at ...626...  Wed Dec  2 15:02:36 2009
From: pinozollo at ...626... (Pino Zollo)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:02:36 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Audio Cards Selection
Message-ID: <200912021102.36354.pinozollo@...626...>

Hi,

I have two audio cards on the computer.

Is there a way to record sound from one and send other sound to the other ?

I.E. How to select the card ?

Regards

Pino    ZP4KFX GG15lv

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Key server: hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net



From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec  2 15:21:10 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:21:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
 Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <4B16736C.4090807@...1740...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<4B16327F.8010801@...466...>	<1259751707.6434.23.camel@...40...>
	<200912021452.02761.gambas@...1...>
	<4B16736C.4090807@...1740...>
Message-ID: <4B1677D6.8000306@...1740...>

Ron wrote:
> Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>> Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 20:25 +1100 schrieb Tony:
>>>    
>>>> Hi Benoit,
>>>>    I have muddled my way through the subversion bit, hopefully 
>>>> correctly
>>>> and compiled the 2454 version. When opening my application I get the
>>>> error message "The program has stopped unexpectedly raising signal 
>>>> #11"
>>>> with the CPU at 100%. If I try to open the wrong ttyUSBx, the 
>>>> application
>>>> flags this error and behaves correctly, so I would assume that if the
>>>> ttyUSBx opens OK then the most recent Gambas2 changes have induced the
>>>> "signal #11" problem. Can you please let me know how to debug 
>>>> further and
>>>> assist you with your efforts.
>>>>    Thanks and regards,
>>>>    Tony..
>>>>    Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    Thanks Benoit and all for your speedy replies..
>>>>    I'm using the serial port in a timing application with 3 laser 
>>>> through
>>>>  beam sensors feeding into the CTS, RI and DSR lines of the serial 
>>>> port.
>>>> In this mode I don't pass any data, don't really care about flow 
>>>> control
>>>> and am only interested in the raw status change events. Working 
>>>> this way
>>>> I haven't noticed gross CPU utilisation after opening the port.  The
>>>> application also uses the UDPsocket to communicate remotely and what I
>>>> have noticed is that if the serial port does not open correctly e.g.
>>>> "/dev/tty" wrong and the UDPsocket is open, then there is a large 
>>>> amount
>>>> of CPU used. Both open correctly and CPU normal.
>>>>    Can you tell me the polling frequency in Gambas2 2.8 ?
>>>>    I would assume that there ore other users of Gambas2 who are 
>>>> using the
>>>>    serial  port  as  a  convenient  way of passing external events 
>>>> to the
>>>>    application, so maybe some input from them would also be in 
>>>> order. As
>>>>  long as there is a mechanism to replicate the Gambas2 2.8 
>>>> functionality
>>>>  that I currently use, I'll leave the implementation up to those 
>>>> who know
>>>> a lot more than myself. If going back to polling, a property to define
>>>> the frequency would be nice.
>>>>    Thanks again,
>>>>    Tony.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you try the revision #2454? I think I have found and fix another
>>>> possible bug, and I'd like to be sure I didn't break anything.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>       
>>> Salut Tony,
>>>
>>> you will find how to work with gdb there :
>>>
>>> go to http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html
>>>
>>> click: Reporting a problem
>>>
>>> read : 3. Reporting a crash (a segmentation fault, or a signal #11)
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> And another often more interesting way of debugging is using 'valgrind':
>>
>> $ cd /path/to/my/project
>> $ valgrind --tool=memcheck --num-callers=50 gbx2
>> ...
>>
>> And then you send me the output written by valgrind.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>   
> Beno?t,
>
> I updated to 2454 and have signal 11's too, right away while starting 
> my program.
>
> This is the bt:
>
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> GB_Raise (object=0x11, event_id=0, nparam=0) at gbx_api.c:528
> 528        OBJECT_REF(object, "GB_Raise");
> (gdb) bt
> #0  GB_Raise (object=0x11, event_id=0, nparam=0) at gbx_api.c:528
> #1  0x00b99cd5 in CSerialPort_ReadCallBack (_object=0x11) at 
> CSerialPort.c:175
> #2  0x08060997 in raise_callback (wait=<value optimized out>) at 
> gbx_watch.c:425
> #3  do_loop (wait=<value optimized out>) at gbx_watch.c:498
> #4  0x08060b04 in WATCH_loop () at gbx_watch.c:530
> #5  0x08061b72 in main (argc=134739040, argv=0xbffff4e4) at gbx.c:358
> (gdb)
>
> I'm recompiling without optimizations at this moment, so better 
> backtrace is coming...
>
> I only have Flowcontrol = 0 in all of my serial port code.
>
> Gambas 2.18.x
> gb.qt
> Ubuntu 9.10
>
> Kind Regards,
> Ron_2nd.
>

Hmm... recompiling complete Gambas source without optimization flag 
didn't result in a more verbose output, and I don't want to recompile 
libqt or things like that.

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From ronstk at ...239...  Wed Dec  2 17:53:36 2009
From: ronstk at ...239... (Ron_1st)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:53:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Qt Slider orientation
In-Reply-To: <4B166C17.4090107@...1740...>
References: <4B166C17.4090107@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912021753.37400.ronstk@...239...>

On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Ron wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> why is it not possible (so it seems to me) to set a sliders orientation 
> to vertical in Gambas?
> 
> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/3.3/qslider.html#orientation-prop
> 
> 
> Gambas 2.18.x
> gb.qt
> Ubuntu 9.10
> 
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. 
> Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 

if width < height then it is vertical
if width > height then it is horizontal
:)

This is/was the way.

Best regards,

Ron_1st

-- 





From Karl.Reinl at ...9...  Wed Dec  2 18:22:44 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...9... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:22:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Qt Slider orientation
In-Reply-To: <200912021753.37400.ronstk@...239...>
References: <4B166C17.4090107@...1740...>
	<200912021753.37400.ronstk@...239...>
Message-ID: <1259774564.6407.1.camel@...40...>

Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 17:53 +0100 schrieb Ron_1st:
> On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Ron wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > why is it not possible (so it seems to me) to set a sliders orientation 
> > to vertical in Gambas?
> > 
> > http://doc.qt.nokia.com/3.3/qslider.html#orientation-prop
> > 
> > 
> > Gambas 2.18.x
> > gb.qt
> > Ubuntu 9.10
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ron_2nd.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
> > a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. 
> > Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> > 
> 
> if width < height then it is vertical
> if width > height then it is horizontal
> :)
> 
> This is/was the way.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Ron_1st
> 

Same as ScrollBar ! 


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 18:37:59 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:37:59 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] textedit html behaviour
In-Reply-To: <4B16639A.6090304@...1740...>
References: <4B16639A.6090304@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912021837.59258.gambas@...1...>

>    Hi,
>    I wanted to use a textEdit window to be able to do things like
>  bold/colored text etc for individual lines.
>    I noticed this behavoir:
>        sText = "<b>Text</b>"
>        FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Text = sText
>    Displays:
>    Text
>        sText = "<b>Text</b>"
>        FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Insert(sText)
>    Displays:
>    <b>Text</b>
>    Is this expected behavior?
>    Gambas 2.18.x
>    gb.qt
>    Ubuntu 9.10
>    Regards,
>    Ron_2nd.

Yes, why?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Wed Dec  2 18:37:01 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:37:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] drawingarea limits
In-Reply-To: <157771.67913.qm@...2266...>
References: <157771.67913.qm@...2266...>
Message-ID: <4B16A5BD.9070501@...1909...>

abdurrahman ulusoy ha scritto:
> hi
> i cant set drawing area width(or drawing area height)  bigger then 32767 . how can i set bigger then  32767.
>   
It would be a very very bad idea to do that. An area of 32767x26000
pixels would take 2.5 gigabyte of ram (yes, I said 2555 megabyte),
counting 3 bytes for pixel.

I think you don't find around images that large, or tall. If you want to
manage something like that, you must keep your graphics somewhere else,
and scale it to fit in less memory.

Regards,
Doriano





From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 19:04:45 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:04:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] can't call a procedure from a different module
In-Reply-To: <26604998.post@...1379...>
References: <26603731.post@...1379...>
	<c811bd7b0912012317m355ee291tccd41e9e0874131a@...627...>
	<26604998.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <200912021904.45542.gambas@...1...>

> [SOLVED]
> 
> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> > 2009/12/2 kevinfishburne <kevinfishburne at ...1887...>:
> >> (2) Module "Server" then calls the procedure "Init" contained within
> >> module
> >> "Net" (Net.Init).
> >
> > Net is reserved for the Net class of constants in gambas. Rename the
> > module.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >----- Join us December 9, 2009 for the anonymous postings of fortune
> > stdout!!! _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 
> Thanks. Renaming the network module from "Net" to "Network" worked. I'm
>  glad is was a simple mistake. Thanks again.
> 

It's not totally a mistake of yours, but a decision made by the compiler the 
first time the "Net" identifier is encountered: 

"Should I use the global Net class from the gb.net component or the Net class 
defined in the project?"

The common programmer logic would tell to decide the second solution. But then 
we are hiding a class of an official component, which is not a good idea. It 
makes the program less readable, a bit like when you override operators in 
C++: a well-known language "thing" actually does not do what it should at 
first sight.

So I chose the first solution, which usually prints an error when you try to 
access your class.

If you really want mixing your own Net class with the official one, you can 
export it. This way, your own class will inherit and override the Net official 
class, so that you can add the feature you need to it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Wed Dec  2 20:19:27 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:19:27 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] GRIDVIEW: SCROLL & DOUBLE CLICK
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100911300905g7a82fc71tb52ea86b996ca1db@...627...>
References: <f4c183100911300232w4e88ef61k1dc7835241c171e9@...627...>
	<200911301220.24008.gambas@...1...>
	<f4c183100911300554x231a4fabte6b6bde47148151f@...627...>
	<200911301511.23280.gambas@...1...>
	<f4c183100911300905g7a82fc71tb52ea86b996ca1db@...627...>
Message-ID: <f4c183100912021119w23790ed3w9851c07cd18f3f95@...627...>

Have you received the example?



2009/11/30 Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>

> Benoit,
>
> I send a little example. Run the app and try to scroll down the gridview by
> clicking in the scrollbar (don't click and move, only do click, click, click
> in the down or up arrows and you can see double click event is fired). I
> need when users are only clicking to move lines no double click event was
> fired.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
>
> 2009/11/30 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>
>> > gambas2 2.17 with qt components.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>>
>> Normally, you should not get mouse events for scrollbars in GridView and
>> other
>> view controls, this is taken into account (at least in gb.qt). And I
>> cannot
>> reproduce your problem with my own GridView in the Gambas IDE.
>>
>> So can you send me a little project that shows your problem?
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>>
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>
>


From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 20:23:40 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:23:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] GRIDVIEW: SCROLL & DOUBLE CLICK
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100912021119w23790ed3w9851c07cd18f3f95@...627...>
References: <f4c183100911300232w4e88ef61k1dc7835241c171e9@...627...>
	<f4c183100911300905g7a82fc71tb52ea86b996ca1db@...627...>
	<f4c183100912021119w23790ed3w9851c07cd18f3f95@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912022023.40215.gambas@...1...>

> Have you received the example?
> 

I did.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Dec  2 20:44:30 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:44:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] textedit html behaviour
In-Reply-To: <4B16639A.6090304@...1740...>
References: <4B16639A.6090304@...1740...>
Message-ID: <4B16C39E.7000902@...221...>

I'm not sure if I understood precisely what you want to do, but:
I spent some time trying to get formatted text into TextEdit and finally used
WebBrowser instead. This works perfectly with html-text.

Matti


Ron schrieb:
>    Hi,
>    I wanted to use a textEdit window to be able to do things like bold/colored
>    text etc for individual lines.
>    I noticed this behavoir:
>        sText = "<b>Text</b>"
>        FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Text = sText
>    Displays:
>    Text
>        sText = "<b>Text</b>"
>        FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Insert(sText)
>    Displays:
>    <b>Text</b>
>    Is this expected behavior?
>    Gambas 2.18.x
>    gb.qt
>    Ubuntu 9.10
>    Regards,
>    Ron_2nd.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. 
> Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
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From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec  2 20:50:52 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:50:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] textedit html behaviour
In-Reply-To: <200912021837.59258.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B16639A.6090304@...1740...>
	<200912021837.59258.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B16C51C.6030503@...1740...>

Beno?t Minisini schreef:
>>    Hi,
>>    I wanted to use a textEdit window to be able to do things like
>>  bold/colored text etc for individual lines.
>>    I noticed this behavoir:
>>        sText = "<b>Text</b>"
>>        FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Text = sText
>>    Displays:
>>    Text
>>        sText = "<b>Text</b>"
>>        FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Insert(sText)
>>    Displays:
>>    <b>Text</b>
>>    Is this expected behavior?
>>    Gambas 2.18.x
>>    gb.qt
>>    Ubuntu 9.10
>>    Regards,
>>    Ron_2nd.
>>     
>
> Yes, why?
>
>   

I would suspect that it doesn't matter how you supply content to an 
object (via .Text or .Insert() it should be displayed the same, now it 
doesn't, the content supplied with Insert() isn't parsed at all, as it 
displays all the html tags ins

I display my program logs inside 3 textAreas now, and I can simply set 
the cursor at last pos with .Pos = .Length and insert txt at the end 
without having it to append to a String variable which I have to create 
inside my program.

textEdit doesn't have a .Lenght property like textArea has, bit weird 
too, because the is a .Pos property...

With textEdit I can only do this if I keep a String variable myself and 
add to it, and set .Text to display the whole string everytime I open it.

On other thing (maybe hard to explain) I display the textAreas on a 
workspace, now if I close and reopen the form with the textAreas the 
content which I have inserted before is still there, with textEdit the 
areas start empty again.

I go back using textAreas without the ability to use bold/colored lines 
of text.
Maybe I see if I can build my own someday....Pitty...

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec  2 20:58:08 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:58:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Qt Slider orientation
In-Reply-To: <1259774564.6407.1.camel@...40...>
References: <4B166C17.4090107@...1740...>	<200912021753.37400.ronstk@...239...>
	<1259774564.6407.1.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <4B16C6D0.3040403@...1740...>

Charlie Reinl schreef:
> Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 17:53 +0100 schrieb Ron_1st:
>   
>> On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Ron wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> why is it not possible (so it seems to me) to set a sliders orientation 
>>> to vertical in Gambas?
>>>
>>> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/3.3/qslider.html#orientation-prop
>>>
>>>
>>> Gambas 2.18.x
>>> gb.qt
>>> Ubuntu 9.10
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ron_2nd.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
>>> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. 
>>> Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
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>>>
>>>       
>> if width < height then it is vertical
>> if width > height then it is horizontal
>> :)
>>
>> This is/was the way.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ron_1st
>>
>>     
>
> Same as ScrollBar ! 
>
>
>   

Yeah but different than Toolbar... (which has a orientation property for 
this)
http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.form.mdi/toolbar/orientation?view

Help... Benoit... it starts smelling like visual basic logic to me... 
sorry... ;-)

Regards,
Ron.





From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Wed Dec  2 21:00:25 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 07:00:25 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ok, what have I done?
In-Reply-To: <200912021452.39709.gambas@...1...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<200912021452.39709.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912021200s3c468d6fl2925d03c32a750ac@...627...>

2009/12/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>> This happens in both Gambas 2.18 and 3.
>>
>> When I drag a hSplit or a vSplit onto a form, I can't add any controls
>> to either the left or the right panel because the splitter is not
>> functioning.
>>
>> Anyone got any suggestions?
>>
>
> I'm not sure to really understand what you are talking about there...

Oh. I thought it was clear with the image I attached to the first
post. I'll try again.

Either I am missing some fundamental point about hSplit and vSplit or
something is wrong.

There is no sign of a splitter in the design environment on either h
or vsplit so there is no way for me decide if I want to place controls
to the left or right of the splitter bar on a hsplit, or above or
below the splitter bar on a vsplit.

There is no splitter bar. There are no left and right panels and no
top and bottom panels. No splitter bar.

Does the attached image of two splitter controls look right to you? If
so, how do you add a control on the left of the splitter and one on
the right?
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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 21:03:24 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:03:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] textedit html behaviour
In-Reply-To: <4B16C51C.6030503@...1740...>
References: <4B16639A.6090304@...1740...>
	<200912021837.59258.gambas@...1...>
	<4B16C51C.6030503@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912022103.24481.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini schreef:
> >>    Hi,
> >>    I wanted to use a textEdit window to be able to do things like
> >>  bold/colored text etc for individual lines.
> >>    I noticed this behavoir:
> >>        sText = "<b>Text</b>"
> >>        FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Text = sText
> >>    Displays:
> >>    Text
> >>        sText = "<b>Text</b>"
> >>        FLogfiles.txtMainLog.Insert(sText)
> >>    Displays:
> >>    <b>Text</b>
> >>    Is this expected behavior?
> >>    Gambas 2.18.x
> >>    gb.qt
> >>    Ubuntu 9.10
> >>    Regards,
> >>    Ron_2nd.
> >
> > Yes, why?
> 
> I would suspect that it doesn't matter how you supply content to an
> object (via .Text or .Insert() it should be displayed the same, now it
> doesn't, the content supplied with Insert() isn't parsed at all, as it
> displays all the html tags ins

Insert() inserts text as if you entered it with the keyboard. You cannot add 
HTML tags with that method.

TextEdit is not a HTML editor or viewer, it just use part of the HTML syntax 
when you define the Text property, that's all.

To insert formatted text, you must insert the text unformatted first, with the 
Insert method, then select it, and then use the Format property to format it.

> 
> I display my program logs inside 3 textAreas now, and I can simply set
> the cursor at last pos with .Pos = .Length and insert txt at the end
> without having it to append to a String variable which I have to create
> inside my program.
> 
> textEdit doesn't have a .Lenght property like textArea has, bit weird
> too, because the is a .Pos property...

Indeed. I think I didn't it because the Length property does not exist in Qt, 
and so I must compute the number of characters by hand.

> 
> With textEdit I can only do this if I keep a String variable myself and
> add to it, and set .Text to display the whole string everytime I open it.
> 
> On other thing (maybe hard to explain) I display the textAreas on a
> workspace, now if I close and reopen the form with the textAreas the
> content which I have inserted before is still there, with textEdit the
> areas start empty again.

Huh? Do you have a little project that shows this strange behaviour?

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 21:06:49 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:06:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Qt Slider orientation
In-Reply-To: <4B16C6D0.3040403@...1740...>
References: <4B166C17.4090107@...1740...>
	<1259774564.6407.1.camel@...40...>
	<4B16C6D0.3040403@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912022106.49468.gambas@...1...>

> Charlie Reinl schreef:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 17:53 +0100 schrieb Ron_1st:
> >> On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Ron wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> why is it not possible (so it seems to me) to set a sliders orientation
> >>> to vertical in Gambas?
> >>>
> >>> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/3.3/qslider.html#orientation-prop
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gambas 2.18.x
> >>> gb.qt
> >>> Ubuntu 9.10
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Ron_2nd.
> >>>
> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>------- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
> >>> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing.
> >>> Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Gambas-user mailing list
> >>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >>
> >> if width < height then it is vertical
> >> if width > height then it is horizontal
> >>
> >> :)
> >>
> >> This is/was the way.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Ron_1st
> >
> > Same as ScrollBar !
> 
> Yeah but different than Toolbar... (which has a orientation property for
> this)
> http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.form.mdi/toolbar/orientation?view
> 
> Help... Benoit... it starts smelling like visual basic logic to me...
> sorry... ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> Ron.
> 

You are right: I didn't think doing the same thing when I made the Toolbar 
control. 

That's funny, isn't it?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 21:08:02 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:08:02 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ok, what have I done?
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912021200s3c468d6fl2925d03c32a750ac@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<200912021452.39709.gambas@...1...>
	<c811bd7b0912021200s3c468d6fl2925d03c32a750ac@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912022108.02111.gambas@...1...>

> 2009/12/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> >> This happens in both Gambas 2.18 and 3.
> >>
> >> When I drag a hSplit or a vSplit onto a form, I can't add any controls
> >> to either the left or the right panel because the splitter is not
> >> functioning.
> >>
> >> Anyone got any suggestions?
> >
> > I'm not sure to really understand what you are talking about there...
> 
> Oh. I thought it was clear with the image I attached to the first
> post. I'll try again.
> 
> Either I am missing some fundamental point about hSplit and vSplit or
> something is wrong.
> 
> There is no sign of a splitter in the design environment on either h
> or vsplit so there is no way for me decide if I want to place controls
> to the left or right of the splitter bar on a hsplit, or above or
> below the splitter bar on a vsplit.
> 
> There is no splitter bar. There are no left and right panels and no
> top and bottom panels. No splitter bar.
> 
> Does the attached image of two splitter controls look right to you? If
> so, how do you add a control on the left of the splitter and one on
> the right?
> 

Ok! Just put some controls inside the H/VSlider, and at run time it will 
display it from left to right (or top to bottom) with sliders between them.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ubuntu at ...2332...  Wed Dec  2 21:21:01 2009
From: ubuntu at ...2332... (D. L. Fox)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:21:01 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Component Show, Hide, Visible
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912012313l5d677049leb0ddd0be99a0814@...627...>
References: <4B15F532.2010501@...2332...>
	<c811bd7b0912012313l5d677049leb0ddd0be99a0814@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B16CC2D.9000504@...2332...>

Okay, I was thinking it was that way but wondered if I was missing 
something "under the hood". Thanks.

Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> 2009/12/2 D. L. Fox <ubuntu at ...2332...>:
>> Sorry for the newbie question but...
>>
>> What is the difference between setting the Visible property to False and
>> calling the Hide() method?
> 
> Hide is a method, Visible is a property. You can't check if X is
> visible or not by calling Hide().
> 
> Otherwise, I dare say the two are synonymous in action.  Gambas has a
> few synonyms, possibly for compatibility reasons.
> 



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Dec  2 21:50:54 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:50:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SYSTEM NOTIFICATIONS
In-Reply-To: <4B1636EA.7000007@...1740...>
References: <f4c183100912010742k43643ac9q615fe8e6ca6db023@...627...>
	<200912011833.24179.gambas@...1...>
	<f4c183100912010941p209cc55akaa85a8a49f634a81@...627...>
	<4B1636EA.7000007@...1740...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912021250h72bfd7dld494df48de23493e@...627...>

system notification are now managed via dbus
2009/12/2 Ron <ron at ...1740...>:
> On Ubuntu 9.10 this tool is not installed by default.
>
> $ notify-send
> The program 'notify-send' is currently not installed. ?You can install
> it by typing:
> sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin
> notify-send: command not found
>
> Maybe they use another one.
>
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd.
>> Thanks Benoit. There is a comand line in debian I can use: notify-send
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ricardo D?az
>>
>>
>> 2009/12/1 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>>
>>
>>>> Is there some way to call os system notifications (something like "Files
>>>> copy finished") ?in gambas2?
>>>>
>>> Not directly, even in Gambas 3. If you know where I can find the
>>> specifications... I think, for Gambas 3, that a DBus call should be enough,
>>> but which one?
>>>
>>> Anyway I guess there is a command-line tool somewhere that does the job.
>>> Otherwise it will not be a true Unix thing!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Beno?t Minisini
>>>
>>>
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>>> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing.
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>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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From ronstk at ...239...  Wed Dec  2 23:49:53 2009
From: ronstk at ...239... (Ron_1st)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 23:49:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Qt Slider orientation
In-Reply-To: <200912022106.49468.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B166C17.4090107@...1740...> <4B16C6D0.3040403@...1740...>
	<200912022106.49468.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912022349.53783.ronstk@...239...>

On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > Charlie Reinl schreef:
> > > Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 17:53 +0100 schrieb Ron_1st:
> > >> On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Ron wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> why is it not possible (so it seems to me) to set a sliders orientation
> > >>> to vertical in Gambas?
> > >>>
> > >>> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/3.3/qslider.html#orientation-prop
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Gambas 2.18.x
> > >>> gb.qt
> > >>> Ubuntu 9.10
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Ron_2nd.
> > >>>
> > >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>------- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
> > >>> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing.
> > >>> Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
> > >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Gambas-user mailing list
> > >>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> > >>
> > >> if width < height then it is vertical
> > >> if width > height then it is horizontal
> > >>
> > >> :)
> > >>
> > >> This is/was the way.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Ron_1st
> > >
> > > Same as ScrollBar !
> > 
> > Yeah but different than Toolbar... (which has a orientation property for
> > this)
> > http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.form.mdi/toolbar/orientation?view
> > 
> > Help... Benoit... it starts smelling like visual basic logic to me...
> > sorry... ;-)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ron.
> > 
> 
> You are right: I didn't think doing the same thing when I made the Toolbar 
> control. 
> 
> That's funny, isn't it?
> 

Maybe the .orientation was more logic?

Suggest to add the .orientation to slider and scrollbar.
Add a 3' value to the orientation values as 'auto'
If set to auto it wil use the widht/height way else it use the 
horizontal or vertical as current is definied.
Don't forget to add the auto function for the toolbar :) :)


Best regards,

Ron_1st

-- 







From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  2 23:57:37 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 23:57:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Qt Slider orientation
In-Reply-To: <200912022349.53783.ronstk@...239...>
References: <4B166C17.4090107@...1740...>
	<200912022106.49468.gambas@...1...>
	<200912022349.53783.ronstk@...239...>
Message-ID: <200912022357.37268.gambas@...1...>

> On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > > Charlie Reinl schreef:
> > > > Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 17:53 +0100 schrieb Ron_1st:
> > > >> On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Ron wrote:
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> why is it not possible (so it seems to me) to set a sliders
> > > >>> orientation to vertical in Gambas?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/3.3/qslider.html#orientation-prop
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gambas 2.18.x
> > > >>> gb.qt
> > > >>> Ubuntu 9.10
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>> Ron_2nd.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>---- ------- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual
> > > >>> Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud
> > > >>> computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch.
> > > >>> Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>> Gambas-user mailing list
> > > >>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> > > >>
> > > >> if width < height then it is vertical
> > > >> if width > height then it is horizontal
> > > >>
> > > >> :)
> > > >>
> > > >> This is/was the way.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Ron_1st
> > > >
> > > > Same as ScrollBar !
> > >
> > > Yeah but different than Toolbar... (which has a orientation property
> > > for this)
> > > http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.form.mdi/toolbar/orientation?view
> > >
> > > Help... Benoit... it starts smelling like visual basic logic to me...
> > > sorry... ;-)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ron.
> >
> > You are right: I didn't think doing the same thing when I made the
> > Toolbar control.
> >
> > That's funny, isn't it?
> 
> Maybe the .orientation was more logic?
> 
> Suggest to add the .orientation to slider and scrollbar.
> Add a 3' value to the orientation values as 'auto'
> If set to auto it wil use the widht/height way else it use the
> horizontal or vertical as current is definied.
> Don't forget to add the auto function for the toolbar :) :)
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Ron_1st
> 

If I make an explicit orientation property, why should I spend time making an 
automatic one?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ajw4me at ...466...  Thu Dec  3 02:06:07 2009
From: ajw4me at ...466... (Tony)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:06:07 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
 Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912021452.02761.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<4B16327F.8010801@...466...>	<1259751707.6434.23.camel@...40...>
	<200912021452.02761.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B170EFF.9050409@...466...>


   Benoit,
   Here is the output of valgrind as requested. I hope it helps.
   Regards,
   Tony..
   $ valgrind --tool=memcheck --num-callers=50 gbx2
   ==2404== Memcheck, a memory error detector
   ==2404== Copyright (C) 2002-2009, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Seward et al.
   ==2404== Using Valgrind-3.5.0-Debian and LibVEX; rerun with -h for copyright
   info
   ==2404== Command: gbx2
   ==2404==
   /dev/ttyUSB0
   19200
   0
   8
   1
   1
   1
   ==2404== Invalid read of size 4
   ==2404==    at 0x535C586: CSerialPort_CallBack (CSerialPort.c:120)
   ==2404==    by 0x4663A21: CWatch::write(int) (CWatch.cpp:143)
   ==2404==       by    0x4663885:    CWatch::qt_invoke(int,   QUObject*)
   (CWatch_moc.cpp:91)
   ==2404==     by  0x493C359: QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*,
   QUObject*) (in /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==      by  0x493E1E3:  QObject::activate_signal(int,  int)  (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==       by   0x4C9BBFF:   QSocketNotifier::activated(int)   (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==       by   0x495B166:   QSocketNotifier::event(QEvent*)   (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==    by 0x48D74B6: QApplication::internalNotify(QObject*, QEvent*)
   (in /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==     by 0x48D842A: QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==     by  0x463A5E2:  MyApplication::notify(QObject*,  QEvent*)
   (main.cpp:354)
   ==2404==     by  0x48CC1E3:  QEventLoop::activateSocketNotifiers() (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==     by 0x488207D: QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned int) (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==     by  0x463A70B:  MyEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned  int)
   (main.cpp:247)
   ==2404==         by     0x48F04AF:     QEventLoop::enterLoop()     (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==    by 0x48F0355: QEventLoop::exec() (in /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==         by      0x48D7B0E:      QApplication::exec()      (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==    by 0x4639D57: hook_loop() (main.cpp:542)
   ==2404==    by 0x8061B71: main (gbx.c:358)
   ==2404==  Address 0x31 is not stack'd, malloc'd or (recently) free'd
   ==2404==
   ==2404==
   ==2404== Process terminating with default action of signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
   ==2404==  Access not within mapped region at address 0x31
   ==2404==    at 0x535C586: CSerialPort_CallBack (CSerialPort.c:120)
   ==2404==    by 0x4663A21: CWatch::write(int) (CWatch.cpp:143)
   ==2404==       by    0x4663885:    CWatch::qt_invoke(int,   QUObject*)
   (CWatch_moc.cpp:91)
   ==2404==     by  0x493C359: QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*,
   QUObject*) (in /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==      by  0x493E1E3:  QObject::activate_signal(int,  int)  (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==       by   0x4C9BBFF:   QSocketNotifier::activated(int)   (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==       by   0x495B166:   QSocketNotifier::event(QEvent*)   (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==    by 0x48D74B6: QApplication::internalNotify(QObject*, QEvent*)
   (in /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==     by 0x48D842A: QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==     by  0x463A5E2:  MyApplication::notify(QObject*,  QEvent*)
   (main.cpp:354)
   ==2404==     by  0x48CC1E3:  QEventLoop::activateSocketNotifiers() (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==     by 0x488207D: QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned int) (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==     by  0x463A70B:  MyEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned  int)
   (main.cpp:247)
   ==2404==         by     0x48F04AF:     QEventLoop::enterLoop()     (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==    by 0x48F0355: QEventLoop::exec() (in /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==         by      0x48D7B0E:      QApplication::exec()      (in
   /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
   ==2404==    by 0x4639D57: hook_loop() (main.cpp:542)
   ==2404==    by 0x8061B71: main (gbx.c:358)
   ==2404==  If you believe this happened as a result of a stack
   ==2404==  overflow in your program's main thread (unlikely but
   ==2404==  possible), you can try to increase the size of the
   ==2404==  main thread stack using the --main-stacksize= flag.
   ==2404==  The main thread stack size used in this run was 8388608.
   ==2404==
   ==2404== HEAP SUMMARY:
   ==2404==     in use at exit: 1,958,423 bytes in 15,402 blocks
   ==2404==   total heap usage: 102,525 allocs, 87,123 frees, 7,712,919 bytes
   allocated
   ==2404==
   ==2404== LEAK SUMMARY:
   ==2404==    definitely lost: 6,916 bytes in 28 blocks
   ==2404==    indirectly lost: 12,892 bytes in 633 blocks
   ==2404==      possibly lost: 175,810 bytes in 721 blocks
   ==2404==    still reachable: 1,762,805 bytes in 14,020 blocks
   ==2404==         suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
   ==2404== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
   ==2404==
   ==2404== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
   ==2404== ERROR SUMMARY: 1 errors from 1 contexts (suppressed: 123 from 11)
   Segmentation fault
   $
   Beno?t Minisini wrote:

Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 20:25 +1100 schrieb Tony:
    

Hi Benoit,
   I have muddled my way through the subversion bit, hopefully correctly
and compiled the 2454 version. When opening my application I get the
error message "The program has stopped unexpectedly raising signal #11"
with the CPU at 100%. If I try to open the wrong ttyUSBx, the application
flags this error and behaves correctly, so I would assume that if the
ttyUSBx opens OK then the most recent Gambas2 changes have induced the
"signal #11" problem. Can you please let me know how to debug further and
assist you with your efforts.
   Thanks and regards,
   Tony..
   Beno?t Minisini wrote:

   Thanks Benoit and all for your speedy replies..
   I'm using the serial port in a timing application with 3 laser through
 beam sensors feeding into the CTS, RI and DSR lines of the serial port.
In this mode I don't pass any data, don't really care about flow control
and am only interested in the raw status change events. Working this way
I haven't noticed gross CPU utilisation after opening the port.  The
application also uses the UDPsocket to communicate remotely and what I
have noticed is that if the serial port does not open correctly e.g.
"/dev/tty" wrong and the UDPsocket is open, then there is a large amount
of CPU used. Both open correctly and CPU normal.
   Can you tell me the polling frequency in Gambas2 2.8 ?
   I would assume that there ore other users of Gambas2 who are using the
   serial  port  as  a  convenient  way of passing external events to the
   application, so maybe some input from them would also be in order. As
 long as there is a mechanism to replicate the Gambas2 2.8 functionality
 that I currently use, I'll leave the implementation up to those who know
a lot more than myself. If going back to polling, a property to define
the frequency would be nice.
   Thanks again,
   Tony.


Can you try the revision #2454? I think I have found and fix another
possible bug, and I'd like to be sure I didn't break anything.

Regards,
      

Salut Tony,

you will find how to work with gdb there :

go to [1]http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html

click: Reporting a problem

read : 3. Reporting a crash (a segmentation fault, or a signal #11)



And another often more interesting way of debugging is using 'valgrind':

$ cd /path/to/my/project
$ valgrind --tool=memcheck --num-callers=50 gbx2
...

And then you send me the output written by valgrind.

Regards,

References

   1. http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html


From ronstk at ...239...  Thu Dec  3 08:07:41 2009
From: ronstk at ...239... (Ron_1st)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 08:07:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Qt Slider orientation
In-Reply-To: <200912022357.37268.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B166C17.4090107@...1740...>
	<200912022349.53783.ronstk@...239...>
	<200912022357.37268.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912030807.41512.ronstk@...239...>

On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > > > Charlie Reinl schreef:
> > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2009, 17:53 +0100 schrieb Ron_1st:
> > > > >> On Wednesday 02 December 2009, Ron wrote:
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> why is it not possible (so it seems to me) to set a sliders
> > > > >>> orientation to vertical in Gambas?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/3.3/qslider.html#orientation-prop
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Gambas 2.18.x
> > > > >>> gb.qt
> > > > >>> Ubuntu 9.10
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > >>> Ron_2nd.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>>---- ------- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual
> > > > >>> Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud
> > > > >>> computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch.
> > > > >>> Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev
> > > > >>> _______________________________________________
> > > > >>> Gambas-user mailing list
> > > > >>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> > > > >>
> > > > >> if width < height then it is vertical
> > > > >> if width > height then it is horizontal
> > > > >>
> > > > >> :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This is/was the way.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ron_1st
> > > > >
> > > > > Same as ScrollBar !
> > > >
> > > > Yeah but different than Toolbar... (which has a orientation property
> > > > for this)
> > > > http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.form.mdi/toolbar/orientation?view
> > > >
> > > > Help... Benoit... it starts smelling like visual basic logic to me...
> > > > sorry... ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ron.
> > >
> > > You are right: I didn't think doing the same thing when I made the
> > > Toolbar control.
> > >
> > > That's funny, isn't it?
> > 
> > Maybe the .orientation was more logic?
> > 
> > Suggest to add the .orientation to slider and scrollbar.
> > Add a 3' value to the orientation values as 'auto'
> > If set to auto it wil use the widht/height way else it use the
> > horizontal or vertical as current is definied.
> > Don't forget to add the auto function for the toolbar :) :)
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Ron_1st
> > 
> 
> If I make an explicit orientation property, why should I spend time making an 
> automatic one?
> 

With the way I described the old programs continue to work without change. 
This should be the case when auto is default.
(thinking the big project as richard terry has made)

See it as backwards compatible. Also some people may like the height/width ratio.
I prefer the orientation property.




Best regards,

Ron_1st

-- 




From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Thu Dec  3 08:27:06 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:27:06 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ok, what have I done?
In-Reply-To: <200912022108.02111.gambas@...1...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<200912021452.39709.gambas@...1...>
	<c811bd7b0912021200s3c468d6fl2925d03c32a750ac@...627...>
	<200912022108.02111.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912022327l28dde47epe3580e41f6442abd@...627...>

2009/12/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:

> Ok! Just put some controls inside the H/VSlider, and at run time it will
> display it from left to right (or top to bottom) with sliders between them.

Aaaah, crikey, hey.

lol

I will make a note to make sure that behaviour is documented. I've
spent far too much time in Visual Studio.

Thank you.



From matteo.lisi at ...2324...  Thu Dec  3 11:24:15 2009
From: matteo.lisi at ...2324... (Matteo Lisi)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:24:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912022327l28dde47epe3580e41f6442abd@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>	<200912021452.39709.gambas@...1...>	<c811bd7b0912021200s3c468d6fl2925d03c32a750ac@...627...>	<200912022108.02111.gambas@...1...>
	<c811bd7b0912022327l28dde47epe3580e41f6442abd@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B1791CF.5030606@...2324...>

Hi to ALL !

This is my situation:

I have a ARM sistem with gambas installed, and I want to debug it from a 
PC (I have to develop a new IDE.......)

How gambas IDE use the interpreter for debug ?

I thought to develop a service on ARM that via TCP/IP link the ARM 
gambas interpreter with a PC IDE.

What do you think about this solution ?

Thanks to all !!




From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Dec  3 16:49:24 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:49:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
Message-ID: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>

I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an 
invoice.
The tableview is almost always in edit mode.

With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the 
program, there is no problem (not this one).

Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1), 
running on a debian "stable" release.

When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor 
slips on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds 
the end of the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is 
Left or Right, the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next 
or previous row and restarting.

I created an executable, and it behaves the same.

Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version 
2.0.0, and the problem does not show up.

The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8 
installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines from 
a third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem 
is related to gambas.

I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application, 
click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor 
will travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.

What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas; 
but I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my 
system. Even when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian 
repositories, I was told to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn 
meant to upgrade gambas, which in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK, 
poppler, libc, libc-bin... well, *hundreds* of packages. I will contact 
the debian mantainer about this - I don't care about postgres, firebird, 
curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and things. It seems that to install 
gambas on debian one must pull in all the world. The other machine, 
having the old version of gambas, has no problems - I copied the gambas 
binaries directly, instead of installing them from packages. I can 
install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for the 
debian-related blow.

Regards,
Doriano

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From dosida at ...626...  Thu Dec  3 18:04:08 2009
From: dosida at ...626... (Dimitris Anogiatis)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:04:08 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
Message-ID: <82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>

Doriano,

from the sample project you posted, I can verify the behavior you described
when you use the arrow keys.
If you click on individual cells it jumps fine. But if you try and type
something on one cell and then click on the next one
the text you typed before disappears.

So perhaps a few more changes happened in the tableview control from 2.0 to
2.15 (the one you upgraded to) that are
not yet documented and you just might have to consider using a different
approach.

I use Debian Lenny 5.0.3 and Gambas 2.16

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Dimitris

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Doriano Blengino <
doriano.blengino at ...1909...> wrote:

> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
> invoice.
> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
>
> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
> program, there is no problem (not this one).
>
> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1), running
> on a debian "stable" release.
>
> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor slips
> on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds the end of
> the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is Left or Right,
> the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next or previous row and
> restarting.
>
> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
>
> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version 2.0.0,
> and the problem does not show up.
>
> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines from a
> third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem is
> related to gambas.
>
> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor will
> travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
>
> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas; but
> I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my system. Even
> when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian repositories, I was told
> to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn meant to upgrade gambas, which
> in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK, poppler, libc, libc-bin... well,
> *hundreds* of packages. I will contact the debian mantainer about this - I
> don't care about postgres, firebird, curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and
> things. It seems that to install gambas on debian one must pull in all the
> world. The other machine, having the old version of gambas, has no problems
> - I copied the gambas binaries directly, instead of installing them from
> packages. I can install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for
> the debian-related blow.
>
> Regards,
> Doriano
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing.
> Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Dec  3 18:24:30 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:24:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...>

Dimitris Anogiatis ha scritto:
> Doriano,
>
> from the sample project you posted, I can verify the behavior you described
> when you use the arrow keys.
> If you click on individual cells it jumps fine. But if you try and type
> something on one cell and then click on the next one
> the text you typed before disappears.
>   
Perhaps this is because there is no "save" event implemented. But the 
complain was about another error: even without writing, but simply 
changing the focused cell with the cursor keys, do you see something 
strange or not?
> So perhaps a few more changes happened in the tableview control from 2.0 to
> 2.15 (the one you upgraded to) that are
> not yet documented and you just might have to consider using a different
> approach.
>   
Which different approach? I would like to identify the cause of this 
problem. If it is gambas 2.15, and gambas 2.16 or 2.17 solves, I switch. 
If all gambas versions above 2.0.0 have the problem, I stick with 2.0.0. 
If the problem are QT libraries, I change them. But surely I don't want 
to change a painful code made to compile an invoice through a tableview 
with something else...
> I use Debian Lenny 5.0.3 and Gambas 2.16
>
> I hope this helps.
>   
...it would help if you told me if the error is still there in 2.16 or 
not...
BTW: my debian version (cat /etc/debian_version) shows 5.0.2, and is 
fully updated. How it goes you have 5.0.3?



> Regards,
> Dimitris
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Doriano Blengino <
> doriano.blengino at ...1909...> wrote:
>
>   
>> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
>> invoice.
>> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
>>
>> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
>> program, there is no problem (not this one).
>>
>> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1), running
>> on a debian "stable" release.
>>
>> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor slips
>> on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds the end of
>> the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is Left or Right,
>> the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next or previous row and
>> restarting.
>>
>> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
>>
>> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version 2.0.0,
>> and the problem does not show up.
>>
>> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
>> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines from a
>> third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem is
>> related to gambas.
>>
>> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
>> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor will
>> travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
>>
>> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas; but
>> I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my system. Even
>> when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian repositories, I was told
>> to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn meant to upgrade gambas, which
>> in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK, poppler, libc, libc-bin... well,
>> *hundreds* of packages. I will contact the debian mantainer about this - I
>> don't care about postgres, firebird, curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and
>> things. It seems that to install gambas on debian one must pull in all the
>> world. The other machine, having the old version of gambas, has no problems
>> - I copied the gambas binaries directly, instead of installing them from
>> packages. I can install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for
>> the debian-related blow.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doriano
>>     




From Karl.Reinl at ...9...  Thu Dec  3 18:31:13 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...9... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:31:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>
	<4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...>
Message-ID: <1259861473.6397.4.camel@...40...>

Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 18:24 +0100 schrieb Doriano Blengino:
> Dimitris Anogiatis ha scritto:
> > Doriano,
> >
> > from the sample project you posted, I can verify the behavior you described
> > when you use the arrow keys.
> > If you click on individual cells it jumps fine. But if you try and type
> > something on one cell and then click on the next one
> > the text you typed before disappears.
> >   
> Perhaps this is because there is no "save" event implemented. But the 
> complain was about another error: even without writing, but simply 
> changing the focused cell with the cursor keys, do you see something 
> strange or not?
> > So perhaps a few more changes happened in the tableview control from 2.0 to
> > 2.15 (the one you upgraded to) that are
> > not yet documented and you just might have to consider using a different
> > approach.
> >   
> Which different approach? I would like to identify the cause of this 
> problem. If it is gambas 2.15, and gambas 2.16 or 2.17 solves, I switch. 
> If all gambas versions above 2.0.0 have the problem, I stick with 2.0.0. 
> If the problem are QT libraries, I change them. But surely I don't want 
> to change a painful code made to compile an invoice through a tableview 
> with something else...
> > I use Debian Lenny 5.0.3 and Gambas 2.16
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >   
> ...it would help if you told me if the error is still there in 2.16 or 
> not...
> BTW: my debian version (cat /etc/debian_version) shows 5.0.2, and is 
> fully updated. How it goes you have 5.0.3?
> 
> 
> 
> > Regards,
> > Dimitris
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Doriano Blengino <
> > doriano.blengino at ...1909...> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
> >> invoice.
> >> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
> >>
> >> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
> >> program, there is no problem (not this one).
> >>
> >> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1), running
> >> on a debian "stable" release.
> >>
> >> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor slips
> >> on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds the end of
> >> the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is Left or Right,
> >> the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next or previous row and
> >> restarting.
> >>
> >> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
> >>
> >> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version 2.0.0,
> >> and the problem does not show up.
> >>
> >> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
> >> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines from a
> >> third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem is
> >> related to gambas.
> >>
> >> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
> >> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor will
> >> travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
> >>
> >> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas; but
> >> I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my system. Even
> >> when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian repositories, I was told
> >> to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn meant to upgrade gambas, which
> >> in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK, poppler, libc, libc-bin... well,
> >> *hundreds* of packages. I will contact the debian mantainer about this - I
> >> don't care about postgres, firebird, curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and
> >> things. It seems that to install gambas on debian one must pull in all the
> >> world. The other machine, having the old version of gambas, has no problems
> >> - I copied the gambas binaries directly, instead of installing them from
> >> packages. I can install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for
> >> the debian-related blow.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Doriano
> >>     

No same with 

2.18.0
Revision: 2447


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Dec  3 18:47:16 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:47:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <1259861473.6397.4.camel@...40...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>	<82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>	<4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...>
	<1259861473.6397.4.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <4B17F9A4.702@...1909...>

Charlie Reinl ha scritto:
> Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 18:24 +0100 schrieb Doriano Blengino:
>   
>> Dimitris Anogiatis ha scritto:
>>     
>>> Doriano,
>>>
>>> from the sample project you posted, I can verify the behavior you described
>>> when you use the arrow keys.
>>> If you click on individual cells it jumps fine. But if you try and type
>>> something on one cell and then click on the next one
>>> the text you typed before disappears.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Perhaps this is because there is no "save" event implemented. But the 
>> complain was about another error: even without writing, but simply 
>> changing the focused cell with the cursor keys, do you see something 
>> strange or not?
>>     
>>> So perhaps a few more changes happened in the tableview control from 2.0 to
>>> 2.15 (the one you upgraded to) that are
>>> not yet documented and you just might have to consider using a different
>>> approach.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Which different approach? I would like to identify the cause of this 
>> problem. If it is gambas 2.15, and gambas 2.16 or 2.17 solves, I switch. 
>> If all gambas versions above 2.0.0 have the problem, I stick with 2.0.0. 
>> If the problem are QT libraries, I change them. But surely I don't want 
>> to change a painful code made to compile an invoice through a tableview 
>> with something else...
>>     
>>> I use Debian Lenny 5.0.3 and Gambas 2.16
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>   
>>>       
>> ...it would help if you told me if the error is still there in 2.16 or 
>> not...
>> BTW: my debian version (cat /etc/debian_version) shows 5.0.2, and is 
>> fully updated. How it goes you have 5.0.3?
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitris
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Doriano Blengino <
>>> doriano.blengino at ...1909...> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
>>>> invoice.
>>>> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
>>>>
>>>> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
>>>> program, there is no problem (not this one).
>>>>
>>>> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1), running
>>>> on a debian "stable" release.
>>>>
>>>> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor slips
>>>> on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds the end of
>>>> the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is Left or Right,
>>>> the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next or previous row and
>>>> restarting.
>>>>
>>>> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
>>>>
>>>> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version 2.0.0,
>>>> and the problem does not show up.
>>>>
>>>> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
>>>> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines from a
>>>> third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem is
>>>> related to gambas.
>>>>
>>>> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
>>>> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor will
>>>> travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
>>>>
>>>> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas; but
>>>> I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my system. Even
>>>> when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian repositories, I was told
>>>> to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn meant to upgrade gambas, which
>>>> in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK, poppler, libc, libc-bin... well,
>>>> *hundreds* of packages. I will contact the debian mantainer about this - I
>>>> don't care about postgres, firebird, curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and
>>>> things. It seems that to install gambas on debian one must pull in all the
>>>> world. The other machine, having the old version of gambas, has no problems
>>>> - I copied the gambas binaries directly, instead of installing them from
>>>> packages. I can install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for
>>>> the debian-related blow.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Doriano
>>>>     
>>>>         
>
> No same with 
>
> 2.18.0
> Revision: 2447
>
>
>   
Sorry Charlie - I don't understand... "no" what? :-)
Does the cursor travel a lot, or the 2.18 version is exempt (ie, has no 
bug?)?

Thank you,
Doriano



From dosida at ...626...  Thu Dec  3 19:20:11 2009
From: dosida at ...626... (Dimitris Anogiatis)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:20:11 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B17F9A4.702@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>
	<4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...> <1259861473.6397.4.camel@...40...>
	<4B17F9A4.702@...1909...>
Message-ID: <82bffccf0912031020s383bf716q42dd402ad2e6df79@...627...>

Doriano,

On my system, when I use the mouse and click on a different cell it jumps
just fine.
The behavior (the error) that you described occurs when I use the cursor
keys.

What I meant by different approach was perhaps you should use something else
other than the GotFocus event and LAST.Edit.  if it works on 2.0 but doesn't
work
in 2.15, 2.16 and 2.18 (Charlie users 2.18, I use 2.16 and the problem is
probably
not solved in 2.17) then it seems to me (and it's just my opinion) that your
code
needs to be somewhat revised.

BTW 5.0.3 is the latest Debian stable (Check
http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable).
Perhaps we use different repositories.

Regards,
Dimitris

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Doriano Blengino <
doriano.blengino at ...1909...> wrote:

> Charlie Reinl ha scritto:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 18:24 +0100 schrieb Doriano Blengino:
> >
> >> Dimitris Anogiatis ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> Doriano,
> >>>
> >>> from the sample project you posted, I can verify the behavior you
> described
> >>> when you use the arrow keys.
> >>> If you click on individual cells it jumps fine. But if you try and type
> >>> something on one cell and then click on the next one
> >>> the text you typed before disappears.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Perhaps this is because there is no "save" event implemented. But the
> >> complain was about another error: even without writing, but simply
> >> changing the focused cell with the cursor keys, do you see something
> >> strange or not?
>
>>
> >>> So perhaps a few more changes happened in the tableview control from
> 2.0 to
> >>> 2.15 (the one you upgraded to) that are
> >>> not yet documented and you just might have to consider using a
> different
> >>> approach.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Which different approach? I would like to identify the cause of this
> >> problem. If it is gambas 2.15, and gambas 2.16 or 2.17 solves, I switch.
> >> If all gambas versions above 2.0.0 have the problem, I stick with 2.0.0.
> >> If the problem are QT libraries, I change them. But surely I don't want
> >> to change a painful code made to compile an invoice through a tableview
> >> with something else...
>
>>
> >>> I use Debian Lenny 5.0.3 and Gambas 2.16
> >>>
> >>> I hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> ...it would help if you told me if the error is still there in 2.16 or
> >> not...
> >> BTW: my debian version (cat /etc/debian_version) shows 5.0.2, and is
> >> fully updated. How it goes you have 5.0.3?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dimitris
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Doriano Blengino <
> >>> doriano.blengino at ...1909...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
> >>>> invoice.
> >>>> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
> >>>>
> >>>> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
> >>>> program, there is no problem (not this one).
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1),
> running
> >>>> on a debian "stable" release.
> >>>>
> >>>> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor
> slips
> >>>> on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds the
> end of
> >>>> the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is Left or
> Right,
> >>>> the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next or previous
> row and
> >>>> restarting.
> >>>>
> >>>> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version
> 2.0.0,
> >>>> and the problem does not show up.
> >>>>
> >>>> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
> >>>> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines
> from a
> >>>> third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem
> is
> >>>> related to gambas.
> >>>>
> >>>> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the
> application,
> >>>> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor
> will
> >>>> travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
> >>>>
> >>>> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas;
> but
> >>>> I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my system.
> Even
> >>>> when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian repositories, I
> was told
> >>>> to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn meant to upgrade gambas,
> which
> >>>> in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK, poppler, libc, libc-bin... well,
> >>>> *hundreds* of packages. I will contact the debian mantainer about this
> - I
> >>>> don't care about postgres, firebird, curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml
> and
> >>>> things. It seems that to install gambas on debian one must pull in all
> the
> >>>> world. The other machine, having the old version of gambas, has no
> problems
> >>>> - I copied the gambas binaries directly, instead of installing them
> from
> >>>> packages. I can install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly.
> Sorry for
> >>>> the debian-related blow.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Doriano
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> > No same with
> >
> > 2.18.0
> > Revision: 2447
> >
> >
> >
> Sorry Charlie - I don't understand... "no" what? :-)
> Does the cursor travel a lot, or the 2.18 version is exempt (ie, has no
> bug?)?
>
> Thank you,
> Doriano
>
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From Karl.Reinl at ...9...  Thu Dec  3 20:48:28 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...9... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:48:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B17F9A4.702@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>
	<4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...> <1259861473.6397.4.camel@...40...>
	<4B17F9A4.702@...1909...>
Message-ID: <1259869708.6397.16.camel@...40...>

Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 18:47 +0100 schrieb Doriano Blengino:
> Charlie Reinl ha scritto:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 18:24 +0100 schrieb Doriano Blengino:
> >   
> >> Dimitris Anogiatis ha scritto:
> >>     
> >>> Doriano,
> >>>
> >>> from the sample project you posted, I can verify the behavior you described
> >>> when you use the arrow keys.
> >>> If you click on individual cells it jumps fine. But if you try and type
> >>> something on one cell and then click on the next one
> >>> the text you typed before disappears.
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Perhaps this is because there is no "save" event implemented. But the 
> >> complain was about another error: even without writing, but simply 
> >> changing the focused cell with the cursor keys, do you see something 
> >> strange or not?
> >>     
> >>> So perhaps a few more changes happened in the tableview control from 2.0 to
> >>> 2.15 (the one you upgraded to) that are
> >>> not yet documented and you just might have to consider using a different
> >>> approach.
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Which different approach? I would like to identify the cause of this 
> >> problem. If it is gambas 2.15, and gambas 2.16 or 2.17 solves, I switch. 
> >> If all gambas versions above 2.0.0 have the problem, I stick with 2.0.0. 
> >> If the problem are QT libraries, I change them. But surely I don't want 
> >> to change a painful code made to compile an invoice through a tableview 
> >> with something else...
> >>     
> >>> I use Debian Lenny 5.0.3 and Gambas 2.16
> >>>
> >>> I hope this helps.
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> ...it would help if you told me if the error is still there in 2.16 or 
> >> not...
> >> BTW: my debian version (cat /etc/debian_version) shows 5.0.2, and is 
> >> fully updated. How it goes you have 5.0.3?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dimitris
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Doriano Blengino <
> >>> doriano.blengino at ...1909...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
> >>>> invoice.
> >>>> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
> >>>>
> >>>> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
> >>>> program, there is no problem (not this one).
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1), running
> >>>> on a debian "stable" release.
> >>>>
> >>>> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor slips
> >>>> on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds the end of
> >>>> the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is Left or Right,
> >>>> the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next or previous row and
> >>>> restarting.
> >>>>
> >>>> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version 2.0.0,
> >>>> and the problem does not show up.
> >>>>
> >>>> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
> >>>> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines from a
> >>>> third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem is
> >>>> related to gambas.
> >>>>
> >>>> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
> >>>> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor will
> >>>> travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
> >>>>
> >>>> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas; but
> >>>> I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my system. Even
> >>>> when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian repositories, I was told
> >>>> to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn meant to upgrade gambas, which
> >>>> in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK, poppler, libc, libc-bin... well,
> >>>> *hundreds* of packages. I will contact the debian mantainer about this - I
> >>>> don't care about postgres, firebird, curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and
> >>>> things. It seems that to install gambas on debian one must pull in all the
> >>>> world. The other machine, having the old version of gambas, has no problems
> >>>> - I copied the gambas binaries directly, instead of installing them from
> >>>> packages. I can install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for
> >>>> the debian-related blow.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Doriano
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >
> > No same with 
> >
> > 2.18.0
> > Revision: 2447
> >
> >
> >   
> Sorry Charlie - I don't understand... "no" what? :-)
> Does the cursor travel a lot, or the 2.18 version is exempt (ie, has no 
> bug?)?
> 
> Thank you,
> Doriano

Sorry Dariano,

no meant, has not changed, even in 2.18.0  Revision: 2447 , the cursor
moves from top left to bottom right and return if using left/right arrow
key, or top to bottom and return if using up/down arrow key.

Oh,  tableview is a gambas written component in gb.form there I think
you find the problem.


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Dec  3 21:32:45 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:32:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <1259869708.6397.16.camel@...40...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>	<82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>	<4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...>
	<1259861473.6397.4.camel@...40...>	<4B17F9A4.702@...1909...>
	<1259869708.6397.16.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <4B18206D.8010308@...1909...>

Charlie Reinl ha scritto:
> Sorry Dariano,
>
> no meant, has not changed, even in 2.18.0  Revision: 2447 , the cursor
> moves from top left to bottom right and return if using left/right arrow
> key, or top to bottom and return if using up/down arrow key.
>
> Oh,  tableview is a gambas written component in gb.form there I think
> you find the problem.
>
>
>   
Thanks to you and Dimitri.

It seems that the gambas byte-code generated by 2.15 is compatible with 
2.0, so I can stick with version 2.0.0.
I would like to hear Benoit about this.

To kind Dimitri:
> What I meant by different approach was perhaps you should use something else
> other than the GotFocus event and LAST.Edit.  if it works on 2.0 but doesn't
> work
> in 2.15, 2.16 and 2.18 (Charlie users 2.18, I use 2.16 and the problem is
> probably
> not solved in 2.17) then it seems to me (and it's just my opinion) that your
> code
> needs to be somewhat revised.
>   
No, it is not my code that has to be revised: the problem is not the 
GotFocus event, is that when in edit mode, if you press a cursor key the 
tableview goes crazy. Whatever way I choose to enter edit mode, I need 
to edit cells - otherwise what is tableview for? And when in edit mode, 
you must be allowed to use the cursor keys... or not? Moreover, I use 
the tableview Click event - that event gets called every time the 
focused cell changes; by pressing a cursor key once, I see this click 
event called over and over. Clearly, there is something wrong in tableview.

> BTW 5.0.3 is the latest Debian stable (Check
> http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable).
> Perhaps we use different repositories.
>   
Yes we do - I use the fastweb (an italian company) repository (because 
it is free, for me). But they should be simply mirrors. Who knows?

Again, thanks to you two. I will investigate more - but I don't want to 
peek and poke with gambas sources.

Regards,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From prog at ...2177...  Thu Dec  3 21:56:18 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:18 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] using dh_make
Message-ID: <1259873778.3628.2.camel@...651...>

Hello. 
I'm trying to create packages .deb for each of the components of Gambas.
For those using dh_make. 
This program asks me to rename a folder. Ej, gb.net to
gambas-gb-net_2.18.0. 
 Is this the correct way to rename the folder?. 

Regards.


From Karl.Reinl at ...9...  Thu Dec  3 22:10:47 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...9... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:10:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B18206D.8010308@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>
	<4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...> <1259861473.6397.4.camel@...40...>
	<4B17F9A4.702@...1909...> <1259869708.6397.16.camel@...40...>
	<4B18206D.8010308@...1909...>
Message-ID: <1259874647.6397.20.camel@...40...>

Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 21:32 +0100 schrieb Doriano Blengino:
> Charlie Reinl ha scritto:
> > Sorry Dariano,
> >
> > no meant, has not changed, even in 2.18.0  Revision: 2447 , the cursor
> > moves from top left to bottom right and return if using left/right arrow
> > key, or top to bottom and return if using up/down arrow key.
> >
> > Oh,  tableview is a gambas written component in gb.form there I think
> > you find the problem.
> >
> >
> >   
> Thanks to you and Dimitri.
> 
> It seems that the gambas byte-code generated by 2.15 is compatible with 
> 2.0, so I can stick with version 2.0.0.
> I would like to hear Benoit about this.
> 
> To kind Dimitri:
> > What I meant by different approach was perhaps you should use something else
> > other than the GotFocus event and LAST.Edit.  if it works on 2.0 but doesn't
> > work
> > in 2.15, 2.16 and 2.18 (Charlie users 2.18, I use 2.16 and the problem is
> > probably
> > not solved in 2.17) then it seems to me (and it's just my opinion) that your
> > code
> > needs to be somewhat revised.
> >   
> No, it is not my code that has to be revised: the problem is not the 
> GotFocus event, is that when in edit mode, if you press a cursor key the 
> tableview goes crazy. Whatever way I choose to enter edit mode, I need 
> to edit cells - otherwise what is tableview for? And when in edit mode, 
> you must be allowed to use the cursor keys... or not? Moreover, I use 
> the tableview Click event - that event gets called every time the 
> focused cell changes; by pressing a cursor key once, I see this click 
> event called over and over. Clearly, there is something wrong in tableview.
> 
> > BTW 5.0.3 is the latest Debian stable (Check
> > http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable).
> > Perhaps we use different repositories.
> >   
> Yes we do - I use the fastweb (an italian company) repository (because 
> it is free, for me). But they should be simply mirrors. Who knows?
> 
> Again, thanks to you two. I will investigate more - but I don't want to 
> peek and poke with gambas sources.
> 
> Regards,
> 
Have a look at ChangeLog 2.13 - 14 May 2009

GB.FORM 

      * BUG: TableView now handle the Return/Enter key by raising the
        Click event instead of automatically editing the cell, so that
        non-editable cells are not edited by mistake. 
      * BUG: The same fix was applied to the way TableView handles arrow
        keys. 
      * BUG: The TableView editor now has the same font as the master
        TableView. 
      * 
      * 
      * 
      * 
      * 
      * 




From Karl.Reinl at ...9...  Thu Dec  3 22:14:23 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...9... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:14:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B18206D.8010308@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>
	<4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...> <1259861473.6397.4.camel@...40...>
	<4B17F9A4.702@...1909...> <1259869708.6397.16.camel@...40...>
	<4B18206D.8010308@...1909...>
Message-ID: <1259874863.6397.23.camel@...40...>

Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 21:32 +0100 schrieb Doriano Blengino:
> Charlie Reinl ha scritto:
> > Sorry Dariano,
> >
> > no meant, has not changed, even in 2.18.0  Revision: 2447 , the cursor
> > moves from top left to bottom right and return if using left/right arrow
> > key, or top to bottom and return if using up/down arrow key.
> >
> > Oh,  tableview is a gambas written component in gb.form there I think
> > you find the problem.
> >
> >
> >   
> Thanks to you and Dimitri.
> 
> It seems that the gambas byte-code generated by 2.15 is compatible with 
> 2.0, so I can stick with version 2.0.0.
> I would like to hear Benoit about this.
> 
> To kind Dimitri:
> > What I meant by different approach was perhaps you should use something else
> > other than the GotFocus event and LAST.Edit.  if it works on 2.0 but doesn't
> > work
> > in 2.15, 2.16 and 2.18 (Charlie users 2.18, I use 2.16 and the problem is
> > probably
> > not solved in 2.17) then it seems to me (and it's just my opinion) that your
> > code
> > needs to be somewhat revised.
> >   
> No, it is not my code that has to be revised: the problem is not the 
> GotFocus event, is that when in edit mode, if you press a cursor key the 
> tableview goes crazy. Whatever way I choose to enter edit mode, I need 
> to edit cells - otherwise what is tableview for? And when in edit mode, 
> you must be allowed to use the cursor keys... or not? Moreover, I use 
> the tableview Click event - that event gets called every time the 
> focused cell changes; by pressing a cursor key once, I see this click 
> event called over and over. Clearly, there is something wrong in tableview.
> 
> > BTW 5.0.3 is the latest Debian stable (Check
> > http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable).
> > Perhaps we use different repositories.
> >   
> Yes we do - I use the fastweb (an italian company) repository (because 
> it is free, for me). But they should be simply mirrors. Who knows?
> 
> Again, thanks to you two. I will investigate more - but I don't want to 
> peek and poke with gambas sources.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Have a look at ChangeLog 2.13 - 14 May 2009

GB.FORM 

      * BUG: TableView now handle the Return/Enter key by raising the
        Click event instead of automatically editing the cell, so that
        non-editable cells are not edited by mistake. 
      * BUG: The same fix was applied to the way TableView handles arrow
        keys. 
      * BUG: The TableView editor now has the same font as the master
        TableView. 
      * 

sorry leaded by a bad key stroke CTRL+Enter in Evolution last mail left
me to early, before fished it.

So now that's done. 
-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Dec  3 23:11:45 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:11:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <1259874863.6397.23.camel@...40...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>	<82bffccf0912030904n7dc8b456pdcc2137b7b224653@...627...>	<4B17F44E.9070703@...1909...>
	<1259861473.6397.4.camel@...40...>	<4B17F9A4.702@...1909...>
	<1259869708.6397.16.camel@...40...>	<4B18206D.8010308@...1909...>
	<1259874863.6397.23.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <4B1837A1.9030109@...1909...>

Charlie Reinl ha scritto:
> Am Donnerstag, den 03.12.2009, 21:32 +0100 schrieb Doriano Blengino:
>   
>> Charlie Reinl ha scritto:
>>     
>>> Sorry Dariano,
>>>
>>> no meant, has not changed, even in 2.18.0  Revision: 2447 , the cursor
>>> moves from top left to bottom right and return if using left/right arrow
>>> key, or top to bottom and return if using up/down arrow key.
>>>
>>> Oh,  tableview is a gambas written component in gb.form there I think
>>> you find the problem.
>>>
>>>       
>>
>> Again, thanks to you two. I will investigate more - but I don't want to 
>> peek and poke with gambas sources.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     
>
> Have a look at ChangeLog 2.13 - 14 May 2009
>
> GB.FORM 
>
>       * BUG: TableView now handle the Return/Enter key by raising the
>         Click event instead of automatically editing the cell, so that
>         non-editable cells are not edited by mistake. 
>       * BUG: The same fix was applied to the way TableView handles arrow
>         keys. 
>       * BUG: The TableView editor now has the same font as the master
>         TableView. 
>       * 
>   
This is what I mean by "investigating"!

May be that by correcting a bug, a different one has been generated. In 
fact I see many click events, one for every cell visited. This is the 
desirable behaviour, if only, a single keypress would generate a single 
movement. Sigh.

This changelog talks about a bug I've never seen - apart from the Return 
key one, I think that in versions prior than 2.13 there was nothing 
wrong with arrow keys. Well, we can wait for Benoit -or- I could in the 
end take a look at gb.form (but I hate to do it).

Thanks again Charlie, the fog is getting lighter.

Good night (oder gute nacht, ou bonne nuit? I'm still trying to figure 
out what is your real preferred language...),

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec  3 23:15:49 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 23:15:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <4B1791CF.5030606@...2324...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912022327l28dde47epe3580e41f6442abd@...627...>
	<4B1791CF.5030606@...2324...>
Message-ID: <200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>

> Hi to ALL !
> 
> This is my situation:
> 
> I have a ARM sistem with gambas installed, and I want to debug it from a
> PC (I have to develop a new IDE.......)
> 
> How gambas IDE use the interpreter for debug ?
> 
> I thought to develop a service on ARM that via TCP/IP link the ARM
> gambas interpreter with a PC IDE.
> 
> What do you think about this solution ?
> 
> Thanks to all !!
> 

Your new threads are never attached to another non-related thread when I 
receive them. Why? I use KMail: do other people see the same thing than me?

Otherwise, can you explain exactly what you want to do? What do you want to 
debug: The interpreter? A Gambas project? The IDE?...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec  3 23:26:35 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 23:26:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
Message-ID: <200912032326.35671.gambas@...1...>

> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
> invoice.
> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
> 
> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
> program, there is no problem (not this one).
> 
> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1),
> running on a debian "stable" release.
> 
> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor
> slips on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds
> the end of the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is
> Left or Right, the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next
> or previous row and restarting.
> 
> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
> 
> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version
> 2.0.0, and the problem does not show up.
> 
> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines from
> a third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem
> is related to gambas.
> 
> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor
> will travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
> 
> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas;
> but I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my
> system. Even when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian
> repositories, I was told to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn
> meant to upgrade gambas, which in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK,
> poppler, libc, libc-bin... well, *hundreds* of packages. I will contact
> the debian mantainer about this - I don't care about postgres, firebird,
> curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and things. It seems that to install
> gambas on debian one must pull in all the world. The other machine,
> having the old version of gambas, has no problems - I copied the gambas
> binaries directly, instead of installing them from packages. I can
> install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for the
> debian-related blow.
> 
> Regards,
> Doriano
> 

OK, I understand the problem.

The TableView is designed so that editing a cell must be decided in the Click 
event. Otherwise, if the Edit method is not called during a Click event, 
keyboard events automatically jump them.

You must call the Edit method inside the Click event, not the GotFocus event.

Before, keyboard events never ignored cells, so things were working normally.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec  3 23:31:51 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 23:31:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <200912032326.35671.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<200912032326.35671.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912032331.51736.gambas@...1...>

> > I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
> > invoice.
> > The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
> >
> > With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
> > program, there is no problem (not this one).
> >
> > Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1),
> > running on a debian "stable" release.
> >
> > When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor
> > slips on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds
> > the end of the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is
> > Left or Right, the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next
> > or previous row and restarting.
> >
> > I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
> >
> > Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version
> > 2.0.0, and the problem does not show up.
> >
> > The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
> > installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines from
> > a third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem
> > is related to gambas.
> >
> > I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
> > click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor
> > will travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
> >
> > What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas;
> > but I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my
> > system. Even when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian
> > repositories, I was told to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn
> > meant to upgrade gambas, which in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK,
> > poppler, libc, libc-bin... well, *hundreds* of packages. I will contact
> > the debian mantainer about this - I don't care about postgres, firebird,
> > curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and things. It seems that to install
> > gambas on debian one must pull in all the world. The other machine,
> > having the old version of gambas, has no problems - I copied the gambas
> > binaries directly, instead of installing them from packages. I can
> > install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for the
> > debian-related blow.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Doriano
> 
> OK, I understand the problem.
> 
> The TableView is designed so that editing a cell must be decided in the
>  Click event. Otherwise, if the Edit method is not called during a Click
>  event, keyboard events automatically jump them.
> 
> You must call the Edit method inside the Click event, not the GotFocus
>  event.
> 
> Before, keyboard events never ignored cells, so things were working
>  normally.
> 
> Regards,
> 

I filled the documentation with that information for other having the same 
problem.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From dkmerriman at ...626...  Fri Dec  4 08:02:44 2009
From: dkmerriman at ...626... (Dave Merriman)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 00:02:44 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Directories?
Message-ID: <200912040002.54105.dkmerriman@...626...>

Is there a way to determine what directory a Gambas executable is run 
from? Or what its 'default' directory is when looking for a file?

I've got some text files that I need to read into an array (I  *really* 
wish Gambas had an easy way to embed array data _in_ the program, like 
the old "data 4, 17, 32, 88..." of BASIC days), and need to know where 
to put them so they're easily found.

-- 
Encrypted email encouraged and PREFERRED
Thursday, December 03, 2009 @ 2357
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From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Fri Dec  4 08:13:14 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:13:14 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912022327l28dde47epe3580e41f6442abd@...627...>
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I use google acount with web interface and I can see his emails right

2009/12/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > Hi to ALL !
> >
> > This is my situation:
> >
> > I have a ARM sistem with gambas installed, and I want to debug it from a
> > PC (I have to develop a new IDE.......)
> >
> > How gambas IDE use the interpreter for debug ?
> >
> > I thought to develop a service on ARM that via TCP/IP link the ARM
> > gambas interpreter with a PC IDE.
> >
> > What do you think about this solution ?
> >
> > Thanks to all !!
> >
>
> Your new threads are never attached to another non-related thread when I
> receive them. Why? I use KMail: do other people see the same thing than me?
>
> Otherwise, can you explain exactly what you want to do? What do you want to
> debug: The interpreter? A Gambas project? The IDE?...
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
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From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Fri Dec  4 08:17:51 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:17:51 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Directories?
In-Reply-To: <200912040002.54105.dkmerriman@...626...>
References: <200912040002.54105.dkmerriman@...626...>
Message-ID: <f4c183100912032317v1079fc75m2e6db388973bb0e@...627...>

Have you tried Application.Path?

2009/12/4 Dave Merriman <dkmerriman at ...626...>

> Is there a way to determine what directory a Gambas executable is run
> from? Or what its 'default' directory is when looking for a file?
>
> I've got some text files that I need to read into an array (I  *really*
> wish Gambas had an easy way to embed array data _in_ the program, like
> the old "data 4, 17, 32, 88..." of BASIC days), and need to know where
> to put them so they're easily found.
>
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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Fri Dec  4 08:22:51 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:22:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>	<c811bd7b0912022327l28dde47epe3580e41f6442abd@...627...>	<4B1791CF.5030606@...2324...>
	<200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B18B8CB.7040905@...626...>

Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :

> 
> Your new threads are never attached to another non-related thread when I 
> receive them. Why? I use KMail: do other people see the same thing than me?

I use idedove (thunderbird) and see them ok (however he's cross-posting...)

-- 
coitus interruptus, n:
	A jerky movement following the words (by either sex partner)
	"I want to have your child."



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Fri Dec  4 08:43:10 2009
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:43:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Directories?
In-Reply-To: <200912040002.54105.dkmerriman@...626...>
References: <200912040002.54105.dkmerriman@...626...>
Message-ID: <4B18BD8E.1010301@...221...>

Dave Merriman schrieb:
> Is there a way to determine what directory a Gambas executable is run 
> from? Or what its 'default' directory is when looking for a file?
> 
> I've got some text files that I need to read into an array (I  *really* 
> wish Gambas had an easy way to embed array data _in_ the program, like 
> the old "data 4, 17, 32, 88..." of BASIC days), and need to know where 
> to put them so they're easily found.
> 

In this case, I think Application.Path will be your friend. Type it and 
press F2 while cursor is on Path, you'll get

Application.Path (gb)
Syntax
STATIC PROPERTY READ Path AS String
  Returns the application path, i.e. the directory where it resides.

As to DATA I agree - but there are a lot of ways you can handle this, e. 
g. by putting your data in strings or string arrays. The most practical 
way I found is putting such data into files with lines separated by TABs 
(chr$(9)).

You can then easily read the file by File.Load into a string, split it 
into a string array by using Split with chr$(10) and work on each line 
by using Split with chr$(9). This works as fast as a DATA line would.

Rolf



From matteo.lisi at ...2324...  Fri Dec  4 09:44:41 2009
From: matteo.lisi at ...2324... (Matteo Lisi)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:44:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>	<c811bd7b0912022327l28dde47epe3580e41f6442abd@...627...>	<4B1791CF.5030606@...2324...>
	<200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B18CBF9.6000401@...2324...>


   Hi !
   I try to explain better:
   I have a ARM system with gambas installed (gbc2 gbx2 gbi2 ecc... ecc.. but
   NOT IDE) and I want run in a gambas project.
   This gambas project must be written on a PC system (windows Based ) and then
   deploy on the ARM system, and for do this I need to develop a new IDE with
   new functions for manage this configuration.
   On the ARM system I have to compile and execute the gambas project written
   on PC system. But if I want also debug the project on the ARM system and
   then have the debug control from the PC system what I have to do ?
   I have a TCP/IP connection from PC system and ARM system with ftp and ssh
   services enabled.
   I thought to develop a service on ARM system for link my IDE on the PC
   system with gambas interpreter , but How I can manage the debug with the
   interpreter ?
   Have you some ideas ?
   Regards and thanks for all you reply...
   Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:

Hi to ALL !

This is my situation:

I have a ARM sistem with gambas installed, and I want to debug it from a
PC (I have to develop a new IDE.......)

How gambas IDE use the interpreter for debug ?

I thought to develop a service on ARM that via TCP/IP link the ARM
gambas interpreter with a PC IDE.

What do you think about this solution ?

Thanks to all !!

    

Your new threads are never attached to another non-related thread when I 
receive them. Why? I use KMail: do other people see the same thing than me?

Otherwise, can you explain exactly what you want to do? What do you want to 
debug: The interpreter? A Gambas project? The IDE?...

  


From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Fri Dec  4 11:41:52 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:41:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <200912032331.51736.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>	<200912032326.35671.gambas@...1...>
	<200912032331.51736.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B18E770.50506@...1909...>

Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>>> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
>>> invoice.
>>> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
>>>
>>> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
>>> program, there is no problem (not this one).
>>>
>>> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1),
>>> running on a debian "stable" release.
>>>
>>> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor
>>> slips on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds
>>> the end of the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is
>>> Left or Right, the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next
>>> or previous row and restarting.
>>>
>>> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
>>>
>>> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version
>>> 2.0.0, and the problem does not show up.
>>>
>>> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
>>> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines from
>>> a third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the problem
>>> is related to gambas.
>>>
>>> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
>>> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor
>>> will travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
>>>
>>> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas;
>>> but I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my
>>> system. Even when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian
>>> repositories, I was told to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn
>>> meant to upgrade gambas, which in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK,
>>> poppler, libc, libc-bin... well, *hundreds* of packages. I will contact
>>> the debian mantainer about this - I don't care about postgres, firebird,
>>> curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and things. It seems that to install
>>> gambas on debian one must pull in all the world. The other machine,
>>> having the old version of gambas, has no problems - I copied the gambas
>>> binaries directly, instead of installing them from packages. I can
>>> install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for the
>>> debian-related blow.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Doriano
>>>       
>> OK, I understand the problem.
>>
>> The TableView is designed so that editing a cell must be decided in the
>>  Click event. Otherwise, if the Edit method is not called during a Click
>>  event, keyboard events automatically jump them.
>>
>> You must call the Edit method inside the Click event, not the GotFocus
>>  event.
>>
>> Before, keyboard events never ignored cells, so things were working
>>  normally.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     
>
> I filled the documentation with that information for other having the same 
> problem.
>
>   
Did you try the attached project?

I tried it once more on another machine: debian stable version 5.0.3, 
libqt-mt.so.3.3.8, and gambas version 2.15.2; the error *does not* show 
up, with the edit call in the GotFocus event. I just used the project 
attached in the previous mail.

So the same project, in one of my offices with two different machines 
shows up the problem. Other users on this list confirmed the problem; 
but now, on another machine but basically the same (included the XMing 
remote X server), works well. I am getting pretty confused - but I will 
go till the end.

Apart from this, I can not see the point in your explanation. The 
GotFocus event gets executed only once, and from there the edit method 
is called. All ok - there are no problems up to now. Then, if you press 
once a cursor key, several click events fire without any further 
intervention, as the cells are traveled. So I think your explanation 
does not fit. Unfortunately, in this office the problem does not show, 
so I must wait to investigate more.

Just now, looking better at class file, I notice that the edit method is 
called once in Form_Open and once in Tableview1_GotFocus. F5... error 
11. Strange... just a few minutes ago it worked. I relaunch gambas and 
start again.

...

Well, tried several different setups - no problems. Implemented the Save 
event, and all is work as intended. The edit call can be either in the 
click event or the save event, or even the GotFocus event: it is exactly 
the same. I attach the new project, but I think that if the problem 
shows up somewhere, it is totally unrelated to the place where the edit 
call is put.

I will try better on the other office. The problem is that this kind of 
works must be done on the other office, not the one I am currently in...

Regards,
Doriano

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From Karl.Reinl at ...9...  Fri Dec  4 14:03:28 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...9... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:03:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] where should components be intalled ?
Message-ID: <1259931808.10395.8.camel@...40...>

Salut Beno?t,

this question means, where gambas looks for, and find it !


 I know :
/usr/local/lib/gambas<version> for the gb.<components>
and 
/usr/local/share/gambas<version>/info for the gb.<components>info/list
files


and for user components

/home/<user>/.local/lib/gambas<version>
and
/home/<user>/.local/share/gambas<version>/info

are there other possibilities ?
  
-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec  4 14:47:43 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:47:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B18E770.50506@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<200912032331.51736.gambas@...1...>
	<4B18E770.50506@...1909...>
Message-ID: <200912041447.43299.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
> >>> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
> >>> invoice.
> >>> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
> >>>
> >>> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
> >>> program, there is no problem (not this one).
> >>>
> >>> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1),
> >>> running on a debian "stable" release.
> >>>
> >>> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor
> >>> slips on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds
> >>> the end of the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is
> >>> Left or Right, the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next
> >>> or previous row and restarting.
> >>>
> >>> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
> >>>
> >>> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version
> >>> 2.0.0, and the problem does not show up.
> >>>
> >>> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
> >>> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines
> >>> from a third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the
> >>> problem is related to gambas.
> >>>
> >>> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
> >>> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor
> >>> will travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
> >>>
> >>> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas;
> >>> but I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my
> >>> system. Even when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian
> >>> repositories, I was told to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn
> >>> meant to upgrade gambas, which in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK,
> >>> poppler, libc, libc-bin... well, *hundreds* of packages. I will contact
> >>> the debian mantainer about this - I don't care about postgres,
> >>> firebird, curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and things. It seems that
> >>> to install gambas on debian one must pull in all the world. The other
> >>> machine, having the old version of gambas, has no problems - I copied
> >>> the gambas binaries directly, instead of installing them from packages.
> >>> I can install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for the
> >>> debian-related blow.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Doriano
> >>
> >> OK, I understand the problem.
> >>
> >> The TableView is designed so that editing a cell must be decided in the
> >>  Click event. Otherwise, if the Edit method is not called during a Click
> >>  event, keyboard events automatically jump them.
> >>
> >> You must call the Edit method inside the Click event, not the GotFocus
> >>  event.
> >>
> >> Before, keyboard events never ignored cells, so things were working
> >>  normally.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >
> > I filled the documentation with that information for other having the
> > same problem.
> 
> Did you try the attached project?

Yes. Did you try what I told you to do?

> 
> I tried it once more on another machine: debian stable version 5.0.3,
> libqt-mt.so.3.3.8, and gambas version 2.15.2; the error *does not* show
> up, with the edit call in the GotFocus event. I just used the project
> attached in the previous mail.
> 

The problem is not in the GotFocus event handler. You must call Edit in the 
Click event handler, otherwise, when pressing an arrow key, all cells will be 
assumed as not editable.

Then, you can use Edit() in the GotFocus event handler if you want too. But 
that is optional.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec  4 14:40:09 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:40:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] where should components be intalled ?
In-Reply-To: <1259931808.10395.8.camel@...40...>
References: <1259931808.10395.8.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <200912041440.09064.gambas@...1...>

> Salut Beno?t,
> 
> this question means, where gambas looks for, and find it !
> 
> 
>  I know :
> /usr/local/lib/gambas<version> for the gb.<components>
> and
> /usr/local/share/gambas<version>/info for the gb.<components>info/list
> files
> 
> 
> and for user components
> 
> /home/<user>/.local/lib/gambas<version>
> and
> /home/<user>/.local/share/gambas<version>/info
> 
> are there other possibilities ?
> 

At the moment, no.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec  4 14:43:24 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:43:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Directories?
In-Reply-To: <200912040002.54105.dkmerriman@...626...>
References: <200912040002.54105.dkmerriman@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912041443.24705.gambas@...1...>

> Is there a way to determine what directory a Gambas executable is run
> from? Or what its 'default' directory is when looking for a file?
> 
> I've got some text files that I need to read into an array (I  *really*
> wish Gambas had an easy way to embed array data _in_ the program, like
> the old "data 4, 17, 32, 88..." of BASIC days), and need to know where
> to put them so they're easily found.
> 

Dim MyArray As Integer[] = [1, 2, 3, 4]

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec  4 14:57:55 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:57:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <4B18CBF9.6000401@...2324...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>
	<4B18CBF9.6000401@...2324...>
Message-ID: <200912041457.55556.gambas@...1...>

>    Hi !
>    I try to explain better:
>    I have a ARM system with gambas installed (gbc2 gbx2 gbi2 ecc... ecc..
>  but NOT IDE) and I want run in a gambas project.
>    This gambas project must be written on a PC system (windows Based ) and
>  then deploy on the ARM system, and for do this I need to develop a new IDE
>  with new functions for manage this configuration.
>    On the ARM system I have to compile and execute the gambas project
>  written on PC system. But if I want also debug the project on the ARM
>  system and then have the debug control from the PC system what I have to
>  do ? I have a TCP/IP connection from PC system and ARM system with ftp and
>  ssh services enabled.
>    I thought to develop a service on ARM system for link my IDE on the PC
>    system with gambas interpreter , but How I can manage the debug with the
>    interpreter ?
>    Have you some ideas ?
>    Regards and thanks for all you reply...
>    Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
> 

OK, I understand now.

The IDE and the debugged Gambas application communicate through two named 
pipes, that are located on the same system then, in the /tmp directory.

To do that remotely, I must find a way to:

1) Run a gambas project remotely on the ARM from the PC system.

2) Let him use something else than a pipe (a socket for example).

I need help for the first point mainly!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Fri Dec  4 19:02:24 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:02:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <200912041447.43299.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>	<200912032331.51736.gambas@...1...>	<4B18E770.50506@...1909...>
	<200912041447.43299.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B194EB0.1060203@...1909...>

Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>> Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>>     
>>>>> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
>>>>> invoice.
>>>>> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
>>>>> program, there is no problem (not this one).
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1),
>>>>> running on a debian "stable" release.
>>>>>
>>>>> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor
>>>>> slips on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds
>>>>> the end of the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key is
>>>>> Left or Right, the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the next
>>>>> or previous row and restarting.
>>>>>
>>>>> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version
>>>>> 2.0.0, and the problem does not show up.
>>>>>
>>>>> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
>>>>> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines
>>>>> from a third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the
>>>>> problem is related to gambas.
>>>>>
>>>>> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the application,
>>>>> click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor key. The cursor
>>>>> will travel in the requested direction 'til the end of the grid.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade gambas;
>>>>> but I reached a point where I could no more install or upgrade my
>>>>> system. Even when trying to install a simple htop(1) from debian
>>>>> repositories, I was told to upgrade some fu*ing library, which in turn
>>>>> meant to upgrade gambas, which in turn meant to upgrade QT, GTK,
>>>>> poppler, libc, libc-bin... well, *hundreds* of packages. I will contact
>>>>> the debian mantainer about this - I don't care about postgres,
>>>>> firebird, curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and things. It seems that
>>>>> to install gambas on debian one must pull in all the world. The other
>>>>> machine, having the old version of gambas, has no problems - I copied
>>>>> the gambas binaries directly, instead of installing them from packages.
>>>>> I can install and upgrade, and everything runs smoothly. Sorry for the
>>>>> debian-related blow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Doriano
>>>>>           
>>>> OK, I understand the problem.
>>>>
>>>> The TableView is designed so that editing a cell must be decided in the
>>>>  Click event. Otherwise, if the Edit method is not called during a Click
>>>>  event, keyboard events automatically jump them.
>>>>
>>>> You must call the Edit method inside the Click event, not the GotFocus
>>>>  event.
>>>>
>>>> Before, keyboard events never ignored cells, so things were working
>>>>  normally.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>         
>>> I filled the documentation with that information for other having the
>>> same problem.
>>>       
>> Did you try the attached project?
>>     
>
> Yes. Did you try what I told you to do?
>
>   
>> I tried it once more on another machine: debian stable version 5.0.3,
>> libqt-mt.so.3.3.8, and gambas version 2.15.2; the error *does not* show
>> up, with the edit call in the GotFocus event. I just used the project
>> attached in the previous mail.
>>
>>     
>
> The problem is not in the GotFocus event handler. You must call Edit in the 
> Click event handler, otherwise, when pressing an arrow key, all cells will be 
> assumed as not editable.
>
> Then, you can use Edit() in the GotFocus event handler if you want too. But 
> that is optional.
>
> Regards,
>
>   
I repeat.
I wrote:
> Well, tried several different setups - no problems. Implemented the 
> Save event, and all is work as intended. The edit call can be either 
> in the click event or the save event, or even the GotFocus event: it 
> is exactly the same. I attach the new project, but I think that if the 
> problem shows up somewhere, it is totally unrelated to the place where 
> the edit call is put.
This means that I tried what you told me, and even more.

I can say more. I took the original program, not the short sample I 
brought to the list, and it works as well. The edit call is in three 
places: the gotfocus event, the btInsert_Click and btDelete_Click 
events. The last two serve to insert and delete whole rows of the tableview.

But, this is half the problem, because in this office there is no 
problem (not *that* problem). As I can not prove anything right now, I 
will try once more where the problem appears: in the other office. Then 
I will try again what you say, and I will report results.

Just to keep in the point: what happens if a cell is assumed as not 
editable? Does it happen that all the cells are traversed up to the end 
of the grid? Because is that that is happening to me, and others on this 
list have confirmed; I am not sure we are understanding each other.

Anyway, I will investigate and let you know (if you are interested).

Regards,
Doriano



From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Dec  4 19:29:33 2009
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:29:33 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<4B1791CF.5030606@...2324...>
	<200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912041329.33525.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Thursday 03 December 2009 05:15 pm, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Your new threads are never attached to another non-related thread when I
> receive them. Why? I use KMail: do other people see the same thing than
>  me?

I've been using kmail since before version 1.0 and I've never seen these 
list messages threaded at all, even though I have "Expand thread" and 
"Collapse thread" options in the View menu.

Rob



From alerinaldi at ...2334...  Fri Dec  4 21:44:41 2009
From: alerinaldi at ...2334... (Alessandro Rinaldi)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:44:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translated project in Gambas
Message-ID: <57de1d080912041244y14111f5bh48a6ff2ea7fd8cd2@...627...>

Hello,
I'm new into the ML: my name is Alessandro, I'm 16 and I'm from Italy.
I'm developing a radio automation software for Linux. Its scope is no
to be more powerful than others, but just to be simple and useable by
a human :)
I translated the project using the Gambas translation tool, and I'd
like to add a menu where the user can select its language, but I can't
find a function to load the language.
How can I do this?
Thank you very much!



From 12ukwn at ...626...  Fri Dec  4 23:15:35 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:15:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translated project in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <57de1d080912041244y14111f5bh48a6ff2ea7fd8cd2@...627...>
References: <57de1d080912041244y14111f5bh48a6ff2ea7fd8cd2@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B198A07.8040203@...626...>

Alessandro Rinaldi a ?crit :
> Hello,
> I'm new into the ML: my name is Alessandro, I'm 16 and I'm from Italy.
> I'm developing a radio automation software for Linux. Its scope is no
> to be more powerful than others, but just to be simple and useable by
> a human :)
> I translated the project using the Gambas translation tool, and I'd
> like to add a menu where the user can select its language, but I can't
> find a function to load the language.
> How can I do this?
> Thank you very much!

Come vai regazzo?  You don't have to do that: languages are linked 
to locales; all you need is translations files and they're 
automagically loaded depending on the user's locale.

If you wanna "fill" the translations files go to menu:
Project > Translate
then first add the language(s) you want, then fill the strings.

The tremendous advantage of GB is you can translate everything: 
put your translatable strings between parenthesis and they'll appear 
into the list :)

ie: 
Suppose you have: PRINT "my test " & myvar & " is unilanguage"
Rewrite it as:    PRINT ("my test ") & myvar & (" is multilanguage")

JY
-- 
The reason they're called wisdom teeth is that the experience makes you wise.



From alerinaldi at ...2334...  Fri Dec  4 23:23:47 2009
From: alerinaldi at ...2334... (Alessandro Rinaldi)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 23:23:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translated project in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <4B198A07.8040203@...626...>
References: <57de1d080912041244y14111f5bh48a6ff2ea7fd8cd2@...627...>
	<4B198A07.8040203@...626...>
Message-ID: <57de1d080912041423v1b2181d1g6bf6c1a70eeb1706@...627...>

Hi :)
I already did this, but if a user wants to try other language, can he
do it from the gui (i.e. without using "env LANG=xx")?
Thanks



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec  4 23:58:36 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 23:58:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translated project in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <57de1d080912041423v1b2181d1g6bf6c1a70eeb1706@...627...>
References: <57de1d080912041244y14111f5bh48a6ff2ea7fd8cd2@...627...>
	<4B198A07.8040203@...626...>
	<57de1d080912041423v1b2181d1g6bf6c1a70eeb1706@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912042358.36395.gambas@...1...>

> Hi :)
> I already did this, but if a user wants to try other language, can he
> do it from the gui (i.e. without using "env LANG=xx")?
> Thanks
> 

Yes and no. :-)

If you redefine the System.Language property, the localization 
(language+country) will change, but the translations of already loaded forms 
will not be reloaded automatically. You must destroy all your forms, and 
reload it.

The simpler is storing in a configuration file the language wanted by the 
user, define the System.Language at startup with it. If the user wants to 
change it, just tell him to restart the application.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec  5 00:03:56 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 00:03:56 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B194EB0.1060203@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<200912041447.43299.gambas@...1...>
	<4B194EB0.1060203@...1909...>
Message-ID: <200912050003.56357.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
> >> Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
> >>>>> I am modifying an old program, which uses a TableView to construct an
> >>>>> invoice.
> >>>>> The tableview is almost always in edit mode.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With gambas version 2.0.0, the original version I used to write the
> >>>>> program, there is no problem (not this one).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now I upgraded to gambas v. 2.15 (debian package gambas2 2.15.2-1),
> >>>>> running on a debian "stable" release.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor
> >>>>> slips on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds
> >>>>> the end of the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key
> >>>>> is Left or Right, the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the
> >>>>> next or previous row and restarting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I created an executable, and it behaves the same.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then I copied the executable to another machine, having gbx2 version
> >>>>> 2.0.0, and the problem does not show up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The program uses explicitly QT; both machines have libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
> >>>>> installed, and the same debian "stable" os, and I use both machines
> >>>>> from a third machine running an X11 server (XMing). So it seems the
> >>>>> problem is related to gambas.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I send a sample project that shows the problem. Launch the
> >>>>> application, click on the Tableview to focus it, and press a cursor
> >>>>> key. The cursor will travel in the requested direction 'til the end
> >>>>> of the grid.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What can I do about this? I was very very reluctant to upgrade
> >>>>> gambas; but I reached a point where I could no more install or
> >>>>> upgrade my system. Even when trying to install a simple htop(1) from
> >>>>> debian repositories, I was told to upgrade some fu*ing library, which
> >>>>> in turn meant to upgrade gambas, which in turn meant to upgrade QT,
> >>>>> GTK, poppler, libc, libc-bin... well, *hundreds* of packages. I will
> >>>>> contact the debian mantainer about this - I don't care about
> >>>>> postgres, firebird, curl, smtp, opengl, sdl, v4l, xml and things. It
> >>>>> seems that to install gambas on debian one must pull in all the
> >>>>> world. The other machine, having the old version of gambas, has no
> >>>>> problems - I copied the gambas binaries directly, instead of
> >>>>> installing them from packages. I can install and upgrade, and
> >>>>> everything runs smoothly. Sorry for the debian-related blow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Doriano
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, I understand the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> The TableView is designed so that editing a cell must be decided in
> >>>> the Click event. Otherwise, if the Edit method is not called during a
> >>>> Click event, keyboard events automatically jump them.
> >>>>
> >>>> You must call the Edit method inside the Click event, not the GotFocus
> >>>>  event.
> >>>>
> >>>> Before, keyboard events never ignored cells, so things were working
> >>>>  normally.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> I filled the documentation with that information for other having the
> >>> same problem.
> >>
> >> Did you try the attached project?
> >
> > Yes. Did you try what I told you to do?
> >
> >> I tried it once more on another machine: debian stable version 5.0.3,
> >> libqt-mt.so.3.3.8, and gambas version 2.15.2; the error *does not* show
> >> up, with the edit call in the GotFocus event. I just used the project
> >> attached in the previous mail.
> >
> > The problem is not in the GotFocus event handler. You must call Edit in
> > the Click event handler, otherwise, when pressing an arrow key, all cells
> > will be assumed as not editable.
> >
> > Then, you can use Edit() in the GotFocus event handler if you want too.
> > But that is optional.
> >
> > Regards,
> 
> I repeat.
> 
> I wrote:
> > Well, tried several different setups - no problems. Implemented the
> > Save event, and all is work as intended. The edit call can be either
> > in the click event or the save event, or even the GotFocus event: it
> > is exactly the same. I attach the new project, but I think that if the
> > problem shows up somewhere, it is totally unrelated to the place where
> > the edit call is put.
> 
> This means that I tried what you told me, and even more.
> 
> I can say more. I took the original program, not the short sample I
> brought to the list, and it works as well. The edit call is in three
> places: the gotfocus event, the btInsert_Click and btDelete_Click
> events. The last two serve to insert and delete whole rows of the
>  tableview.
> 
> But, this is half the problem, because in this office there is no
> problem (not *that* problem). As I can not prove anything right now, I
> will try once more where the problem appears: in the other office. Then
> I will try again what you say, and I will report results.
> 
> Just to keep in the point: what happens if a cell is assumed as not
> editable? Does it happen that all the cells are traversed up to the end
> of the grid? Because is that that is happening to me, and others on this
> list have confirmed; I am not sure we are understanding each other.
> 
> Anyway, I will investigate and let you know (if you are interested).
> 
> Regards,
> Doriano
> 

For sure there is somewhere we don't understand each other. :-)

I used a few TableView in the IDE: look at the project property dialog, in the 
environment tab. You will see how I implemented them: the insert and delete 
button, the Click, Data, Insert and Save event handlers... Please tell me the 
difference between what I did there and what you did.

When you sent me your little example, I just added a Click event handler with 
a call to Edit() inside, and everything worked as expected.

And if things works on some computers without change, maybe they use an old 
version of Gambas (< 2.13).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec  5 00:05:18 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 00:05:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <200912041329.33525.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<200912032315.49463.gambas@...1...>
	<200912041329.33525.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200912050005.18271.gambas@...1...>

> On Thursday 03 December 2009 05:15 pm, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > Your new threads are never attached to another non-related thread when I
> > receive them. Why? I use KMail: do other people see the same thing than
> >  me?
> 
> I've been using kmail since before version 1.0 and I've never seen these
> list messages threaded at all, even though I have "Expand thread" and
> "Collapse thread" options in the View menu.
> 
> Rob
> 

Oops, I said "never" instead of "always". Apparently, KMail receives new 
Matteo's threads, and attach them to a non-related thread. No idea why...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ronstk at ...239...  Sat Dec  5 02:25:45 2009
From: ronstk at ...239... (Ron_1st)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 02:25:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <200912050005.18271.gambas@...1...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<200912041329.33525.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
	<200912050005.18271.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912050225.46274.ronstk@...239...>

On Saturday 05 December 2009, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > On Thursday 03 December 2009 05:15 pm, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > > Your new threads are never attached to another non-related thread when I
> > > receive them. Why? I use KMail: do other people see the same thing than
> > >  me?
> > 
> > I've been using kmail since before version 1.0 and I've never seen these
> > list messages threaded at all, even though I have "Expand thread" and
> > "Collapse thread" options in the View menu.
> > 
> > Rob
> > 
> 
> Oops, I said "never" instead of "always". Apparently, KMail receives new 
> Matteo's threads, and attach them to a non-related thread. No idea why...
> 

Look in the headers.


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[[[ ote :  In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912022327l28dde47epe3580e41f6442abd at ...2136...7...> ]]]


So I think/belive he is always using 'Reply' instead of 'New Message'


For Matteo Lisi:

When people close a thread i.e. '[Gambas-user] Ok, what have I done? in 
the message three they do not see always new messages apear.
Second it is not of others/my interest to continue to read that thread anymore.
By a reply on that thread your message wil be lost for others/me.
In other words. you are limmiting the count of readers for your question.

If you have a new question or other message always start with a new
to get attention of the readers.




Best regards,

Ron_1st

-- 



From ronstk at ...239...  Sat Dec  5 02:36:16 2009
From: ronstk at ...239... (Ron_1st)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 02:36:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Remotly Debug
In-Reply-To: <200912050005.18271.gambas@...1...>
References: <c811bd7b0912020109k3dd79debsb79b8343ec90eac8@...627...>
	<200912041329.33525.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
	<200912050005.18271.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912050236.17157.ronstk@...239...>

On Saturday 05 December 2009, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > On Thursday 03 December 2009 05:15 pm, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > > Your new threads are never attached to another non-related thread when I
> > > receive them. Why? I use KMail: do other people see the same thing than
> > >  me?
> > 
> > I've been using kmail since before version 1.0 and I've never seen these
> > list messages threaded at all, even though I have "Expand thread" and
> > "Collapse thread" options in the View menu.
> > 
> > Rob
> > 
> 
> Oops, I said "never" instead of "always". Apparently, KMail receives new 
> Matteo's threads, and attach them to a non-related thread. No idea why...
> 

I confirm this for 'always' and using kmail too :)


Best regards,

Ron_1st

-- 




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Dec  5 11:27:05 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:27:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SDL component documentation
In-Reply-To: <26603936.post@...1379...>
References: <26603936.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912050227o585af93fl97a288a4e6bd9a9@...627...>

gb.sdl is incomplete ... in fact Laurent have begin to redraw all the
gb.sdl lib by using OpenGl... but ... still incomplete ... i think the
lack of users on this lib mess his enthusiasm

(sorry for my english)


Maybe if there is more user to test his work on gb3 he will purchase
his work.. :/



another thing will be very fantastic in gambas ... (in my dream)...

do you know Blitz Basic 3D ? try a look on it !!... it's a fabulous
language that allow to easily make 3D Games.

This lib just load Scene, and avatar (3D objects) and use
preprogrammed actions...

so in fact most of the job is done by the C lib ... i think with a
tool like irrlicht engine we will be able to do a thing like Blitz...
Be we are all busy and this is a job for new gambas helpers...

Are we so few people to want a good Basic Language on linux ?... Is
there no people so curious to create new C gambas Libs ?

What are the difficulties on making gambas libs that limit the numbers
of libs develloppers ?


As python can do many things, Gambas can do the same and with more
velocity... And a more beautifull IDE

People of Gambas, Gambasians... help us to make Gambas even better,
take some hour a month to add page on wiki, translate, create
examples, create libs.

You have id?as... it's good, you tell us to do things for you ... good
... but we are humans, with jobs, ... so like us ... you want
something... try to do it yourself... and then if you can because you
miss some knowlege... tell us for help ... this is the game and the
philosophy of GNU world. And it's so anthousiasmic to have a piece of
ourself in a great project ! NO ?


Fabien Bodard


This message is not only for Kevin ...  :-) (Thanks kevin to try to help us !)




2009/12/2 kevinfishburne <kevinfishburne at ...1887...>:
>
> I've noticed that the documentation for the SDL component is incomplete.
> There are some basic examples in the BeastScroll example application
> packaged with GAMBAS, but is there a more extensive list of procedures
> implemented in GAMBAS for SDL?
>
> I'm guessing that the next best way of figuring out what has been
> implemented is to review the source code for the SDL component of GAMBAS. If
> that is the case, which source files should I look at to determine which SDL
> procedures have been implemented and how they're used? C and C++ source code
> is alien to me, so looking at all the files in gb.sdl/src is a bit
> intimidating in the context of discovering which procedures will work in
> GAMBAS.
>
> I consider SDL an extremely important aspect of GAMBAS, so if I could obtain
> the procedures and their usage/parameters I'd be willing to complete the
> missing documentation for them using the same syntax as the existing
> documentation. Thanks all.
>
> -----
> Kevin Fishburne, Eight Virtues
> www: ?http://sales.eightvirtues.com http://sales.eightvirtues.com
> e-mail: ?mailto:sales at ...1887... sales at ...1887...
> phone: (770) 853-6271
> --
> View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/SDL-component-documentation-tp26603936p26603936.html
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>
>
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From kb2scs at ...2326...  Sat Dec  5 13:39:43 2009
From: kb2scs at ...2326... (John)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:39:43 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Need a Ubuntu/Linux teacher
Message-ID: <1260016783.1880.16.camel@...2329...>

Hi All
       I am new to Linux. I am using Ubuntu 9.10.
What I am looking for is a kind person to help me off line with Linux
and Ubuntu.
No I do not intend to use this list as my Linux learning aid.
Other than this one message I will never ask this list for this type of
help again.

Yes I could join a Ubuntu mailing list. I am sure there are many very
good Ubuntu mailing lists out there. I just do not want to join yet
another mailing list.

Anyone interested in helping me out please contact me direct.

Just so that you know I do not know Linux but I do know computers.
My first computer was a vic-2o. I like most new Linux users have come
from the Windows world. I can make a Windows box sing. 

Thank you for your time in reading this message.
Again from now on any message I send to this list will be about Gambas
and nothing else.

-- 
Let us hope we never witness the "Silence Of The Hams"
73 DE John KB2SCS
           Packet:    KB2SCS at ...2333...#NLI.NY.USA.NOAM
           E-Mail:    kb2scs at ...2328...
           Web Page:  http://www.qsl.net/kb2scs




From alerinaldi at ...2334...  Sat Dec  5 13:42:55 2009
From: alerinaldi at ...2334... (Alessandro Rinaldi)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:42:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translated project in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <200912042358.36395.gambas@...1...>
References: <57de1d080912041244y14111f5bh48a6ff2ea7fd8cd2@...627...>
	<4B198A07.8040203@...626...>
	<57de1d080912041423v1b2181d1g6bf6c1a70eeb1706@...627...>
	<200912042358.36395.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <57de1d080912050442v11abe750na5163e6b44fbc1ea@...627...>

That's what I needed :)
Thank you very much!



From emil at ...1913...  Sat Dec  5 13:55:06 2009
From: emil at ...1913... (Emil Tchekov)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:55:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Need a Ubuntu/Linux teacher
In-Reply-To: <1260016783.1880.16.camel@...2329...>
References: <1260016783.1880.16.camel@...2329...>
Message-ID: <200912051355.06624.emil@...1913...>

On Saturday 05 December 2009 13:39:43 John wrote:
> Hi All
>        I am new to Linux. I am using Ubuntu 9.10.
> What I am looking for is a kind person to help me off line with Linux
> and Ubuntu.
> No I do not intend to use this list as my Linux learning aid.
> Other than this one message I will never ask this list for this type of
> help again.
>
> Yes I could join a Ubuntu mailing list. I am sure there are many very
> good Ubuntu mailing lists out there. I just do not want to join yet
> another mailing list.
>
> Anyone interested in helping me out please contact me direct.
>
> Just so that you know I do not know Linux but I do know computers.
> My first computer was a vic-2o. I like most new Linux users have come
> from the Windows world. I can make a Windows box sing.
>
> Thank you for your time in reading this message.
> Again from now on any message I send to this list will be about Gambas
> and nothing else.


Hi John,

If you are fluent in Windows and PC in general, you do not need teacher!

Just some more curiosity and wish to try out new things.

I started my "journey" in the Linux world in year 2000 with SuSE, meanwhile I 
am using Ubuntu...

You can learn virtually EVERYTHING  just by asking "uncle google" ;-) This is 
the way I learned a lot.


my recent google searches

"mysql odbc install on ubuntu" -> best hit was on howtoforge
"raid on ubuntu"
"mysql on ubuntu"

I wish you success and lot of fun on your journey!


very best regards


Emil

P.S. There are lot of books written, my favorite is "Linux" from Michael Koffler 
(it is in German, but there is translation available). Meanwhile it is old, 
but I mean it is good introduction in Linux. But you can look out for some 
other ... good luck




From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec  5 14:24:19 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:24:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <4B170EFF.9050409@...466...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<200912021452.02761.gambas@...1...>
	<4B170EFF.9050409@...466...>
Message-ID: <200912051424.19894.gambas@...1...>

>    Benoit,
>    Here is the output of valgrind as requested. I hope it helps.
>    Regards,
>    Tony..
>    $ valgrind --tool=memcheck --num-callers=50 gbx2
>    ==2404== Memcheck, a memory error detector
>    ==2404== Copyright (C) 2002-2009, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Seward et al.
>    ==2404== Using Valgrind-3.5.0-Debian and LibVEX; rerun with -h for
>  copyright info
>    ==2404== Command: gbx2
>    ==2404==
>    /dev/ttyUSB0
>    19200
>    0
>    8
>    1
>    1
>    1
>    ==2404== Invalid read of size 4
>    ==2404==    at 0x535C586: CSerialPort_CallBack (CSerialPort.c:120)
>    ==2404==    by 0x4663A21: CWatch::write(int) (CWatch.cpp:143)
>    ==2404==       by    0x4663885:    CWatch::qt_invoke(int,   QUObject*)
>    (CWatch_moc.cpp:91)
>    ...

Is it better with revision #2455? (Ron, you can try too!)

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ron at ...1740...  Sat Dec  5 15:17:57 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:17:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
 Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912051424.19894.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<200912021452.02761.gambas@...1...>	<4B170EFF.9050409@...466...>
	<200912051424.19894.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1A6B95.5010505@...1740...>

Beno?t Minisini schreef:
>>    Benoit,
>>    Here is the output of valgrind as requested. I hope it helps.
>>    Regards,
>>    Tony..
>>    $ valgrind --tool=memcheck --num-callers=50 gbx2
>>    ==2404== Memcheck, a memory error detector
>>    ==2404== Copyright (C) 2002-2009, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Seward et al.
>>    ==2404== Using Valgrind-3.5.0-Debian and LibVEX; rerun with -h for
>>  copyright info
>>    ==2404== Command: gbx2
>>    ==2404==
>>    /dev/ttyUSB0
>>    19200
>>    0
>>    8
>>    1
>>    1
>>    1
>>    ==2404== Invalid read of size 4
>>    ==2404==    at 0x535C586: CSerialPort_CallBack (CSerialPort.c:120)
>>    ==2404==    by 0x4663A21: CWatch::write(int) (CWatch.cpp:143)
>>    ==2404==       by    0x4663885:    CWatch::qt_invoke(int,   QUObject*)
>>    (CWatch_moc.cpp:91)
>>    ...
>>     
>
> Is it better with revision #2455? (Ron, you can try too!)
>
>   
I guess not...

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
GB_Raise (object=0xd, event_id=0, nparam=0) at gbx_api.c:528
528        OBJECT_REF(object, "GB_Raise");
(gdb) bt
#0  GB_Raise (object=0xd, event_id=0, nparam=0) at gbx_api.c:528
#1  0x00334cd5 in CSerialPort_ReadCallBack (_object=0xd) at 
CSerialPort.c:175
#2  0x08060997 in raise_callback (wait=<value optimized out>) at 
gbx_watch.c:425
#3  do_loop (wait=<value optimized out>) at gbx_watch.c:498
#4  0x08060b04 in WATCH_loop () at gbx_watch.c:530
#5  0x08061b72 in main (argc=134739040, argv=0xbffff4f4) at gbx.c:358
(gdb)


==5235== Memcheck, a memory error detector
==5235== Copyright (C) 2002-2009, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Seward et al.
==5235== Using Valgrind-3.5.0-Debian and LibVEX; rerun with -h for 
copyright info
==5235== Command: gbx2 -p
==5235== Parent PID: 16998
==5235==
==5235== Invalid read of size 4
==5235==    at 0x805D8DA: GB_Raise (gbx_api.c:528)
==5235==    by 0x460CCD4: CSerialPort_ReadCallBack (CSerialPort.c:175)
==5235==    by 0x8060996: do_loop (gbx_watch.c:425)
==5235==    by 0x8060B03: WATCH_loop (gbx_watch.c:530)
==5235==    by 0x8061B71: main (gbx.c:358)
==5235==  Address 0x10 is not stack'd, malloc'd or (recently) free'd
==5235==
==5235==
==5235== Process terminating with default action of signal 11 (SIGSEGV): 
dumping core
==5235==  Access not within mapped region at address 0x10
==5235==    at 0x805D8DA: GB_Raise (gbx_api.c:528)
==5235==    by 0x460CCD4: CSerialPort_ReadCallBack (CSerialPort.c:175)
==5235==    by 0x8060996: do_loop (gbx_watch.c:425)
==5235==    by 0x8060B03: WATCH_loop (gbx_watch.c:530)
==5235==    by 0x8061B71: main (gbx.c:358)
==5235==  If you believe this happened as a result of a stack
==5235==  overflow in your program's main thread (unlikely but
==5235==  possible), you can try to increase the size of the
==5235==  main thread stack using the --main-stacksize= flag.
==5235==  The main thread stack size used in this run was 8388608.

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec  5 16:01:30 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:01:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <4B1A6B95.5010505@...1740...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<200912051424.19894.gambas@...1...>
	<4B1A6B95.5010505@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912051601.30817.gambas@...1...>

It should be ok with revision #2456!

If it really works, can you check that changing the flow control between None 
and something else actually has an effect on CPU consumption?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ron at ...1740...  Sat Dec  5 16:19:17 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:19:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
 Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912051601.30817.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<200912051424.19894.gambas@...1...>	<4B1A6B95.5010505@...1740...>
	<200912051601.30817.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1A79F5.4010106@...1740...>

Beno?t Minisini schreef:
> It should be ok with revision #2456!
>
> If it really works, can you check that changing the flow control between None 
> and something else actually has an effect on CPU consumption?
>
>   
Beno?t,

no segfaults, but the system load when running my project with the patch 
is alot higher than before.

Before it was 0.2-0.3
Now it's 1.0-1.10

I'm not using flowcontrol.

$ grep FlowControl *
CCTX35.class:    .FlowControl = 0
CGPS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
CPlugwise.class:    .FlowControl = 0
CRFXComRX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
CRFXComTX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
CSMS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
CVISCA.class:    .FlowControl = 0
CWeeder.class:    .FlowControl = 0
CZWave.class:    .FlowControl = 0

Six of these serialports are active.
And I presume 0 is the same as None.

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec  5 16:35:05 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:35:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <4B1A79F5.4010106@...1740...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<200912051601.30817.gambas@...1...>
	<4B1A79F5.4010106@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912051635.05987.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini schreef:
> > It should be ok with revision #2456!
> >
> > If it really works, can you check that changing the flow control between
> > None and something else actually has an effect on CPU consumption?
> 
> Beno?t,
> 
> no segfaults, but the system load when running my project with the patch
> is alot higher than before.
> 
> Before it was 0.2-0.3
> Now it's 1.0-1.10
> 
> I'm not using flowcontrol.
> 
> $ grep FlowControl *
> CCTX35.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> CGPS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> CPlugwise.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> CRFXComRX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> CRFXComTX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> CSMS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> CVISCA.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> CWeeder.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> CZWave.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> 
> Six of these serialports are active.
> And I presume 0 is the same as None.
> 
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd.
> 

That would mean that the Read callback is called endlessly, as if there are 
always bytes to read on the serial port.

Do you use the read event? Can you check that by implementing a Read event 
handler, check how much time it is called, and check what can be read on the 
serial port?

If there is something to read on the serial port, if there are data to read, 
and if you don't read it, the Read callback will be called again and again.

Regards,


-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From robert1juhasz at ...626...  Sat Dec  5 16:40:06 2009
From: robert1juhasz at ...626... (yuhej)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 07:40:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  tab
Message-ID: <26656660.post@...1379...>


Hi,

Is there any option to hide some of the tabs of a tab control? For different
users I wish to show different information (depending on their right) but I
don't know if I may make invisible or not enabled some of the tabs.

Another quesion: can I change the order of the tabs (in design time)?

Thanks,
Robi
-- 
View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/tab-tp26656660p26656660.html
Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.




From ron at ...1740...  Sat Dec  5 16:55:21 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:55:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
 Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912051635.05987.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<200912051601.30817.gambas@...1...>	<4B1A79F5.4010106@...1740...>
	<200912051635.05987.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1A8269.3020905@...1740...>

Beno?t Minisini schreef:
>> Beno?t Minisini schreef:
>>     
>>> It should be ok with revision #2456!
>>>
>>> If it really works, can you check that changing the flow control between
>>> None and something else actually has an effect on CPU consumption?
>>>       
>> Beno?t,
>>
>> no segfaults, but the system load when running my project with the patch
>> is alot higher than before.
>>
>> Before it was 0.2-0.3
>> Now it's 1.0-1.10
>>
>> I'm not using flowcontrol.
>>
>> $ grep FlowControl *
>> CCTX35.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CGPS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CPlugwise.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CRFXComRX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CRFXComTX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CSMS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CVISCA.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CWeeder.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CZWave.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>>
>> Six of these serialports are active.
>> And I presume 0 is the same as None.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ron_2nd.
>>
>>     
>
> That would mean that the Read callback is called endlessly, as if there are 
> always bytes to read on the serial port.
>
> Do you use the read event? Can you check that by implementing a Read event 
> handler, check how much time it is called, and check what can be read on the 
> serial port?
>
> If there is something to read on the serial port, if there are data to read, 
> and if you don't read it, the Read callback will be called again and again.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>   
Almost all of them use a  Read event handler.

CRFXComRX receives the most number of bytes, as it receives data from 
all of my temp/energy sensors.

I have this defined:

PUBLIC SUB RFXComRXSer_Read()

  DIM sData AS Byte

  READ #hRFXComRXSer, sData
  ProcessReceivedChar(sData)

END

So it reads data byte by byte and process them.

Sure a continues flow of data, but before the latest rev. everything 
works with very low cpuload (with even higher serial loads) .
I don't want to loose that!

My guess is that now the Read event is called even when there is no 
data, otherwise I couldn't have a much lower load without changes to my 
code.

I remember having reported the same issue of high loads of serialport 
code, you fixed it here:

Revision: 1796
          http://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/gambas/?rev=1796&view=rev
Author:   gambas
Date:     2009-01-12 21:24:47 +0000 (Mon, 12 Jan 2009)

Log Message:
-----------
[GB.NET]
* BUG: Serial port devices are now watched for reading, not for writing. So 
  the callback will not be called permanently.

Modified Paths:
--------------

    gambas/branches/2.0/gb.net/src/CSerialPort.c



Is this related to the fix you have put in now?


If you want I can run valgrind/kcachegrind, but I have to make some free 
time first.

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From ron at ...1740...  Sat Dec  5 17:39:27 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:39:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
 Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912051635.05987.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<200912051601.30817.gambas@...1...>	<4B1A79F5.4010106@...1740...>
	<200912051635.05987.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1A8CBF.4080009@...1740...>

Beno?t Minisini schreef:
>> Beno?t Minisini schreef:
>>     
>>> It should be ok with revision #2456!
>>>
>>> If it really works, can you check that changing the flow control between
>>> None and something else actually has an effect on CPU consumption?
>>>       
>> Beno?t,
>>
>> no segfaults, but the system load when running my project with the patch
>> is alot higher than before.
>>
>> Before it was 0.2-0.3
>> Now it's 1.0-1.10
>>
>> I'm not using flowcontrol.
>>
>> $ grep FlowControl *
>> CCTX35.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CGPS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CPlugwise.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CRFXComRX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CRFXComTX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CSMS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CVISCA.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CWeeder.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>> CZWave.class:    .FlowControl = 0
>>
>> Six of these serialports are active.
>> And I presume 0 is the same as None.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ron_2nd.
>>
>>     
>
> That would mean that the Read callback is called endlessly, as if there are 
> always bytes to read on the serial port.
>
> Do you use the read event? Can you check that by implementing a Read event 
> handler, check how much time it is called, and check what can be read on the 
> serial port?
>
> If there is something to read on the serial port, if there are data to read, 
> and if you don't read it, the Read callback will be called again and again.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>   
Benoit,

runned valgrind tool for a while.

And I got a rather strange winner, I got 3 milion calls of _add_char in 
gb_error.c

Some debug code hanging around or something like that?

See attached valgrind file.

Regards,
Ron_2nd.
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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Sat Dec  5 18:21:06 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:21:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
 Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <4B1A8CBF.4080009@...1740...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<200912051601.30817.gambas@...1...>	<4B1A79F5.4010106@...1740...>	<200912051635.05987.gambas@...1...>
	<4B1A8CBF.4080009@...1740...>
Message-ID: <4B1A9682.6040100@...626...>

Ron a ?crit :
...   
> runned valgrind tool for a while.
> 
> And I got a rather strange winner, I got 3 milion calls of _add_char in
> gb_error.c
> 
> Some debug code hanging around or something like that?
> 
> See attached valgrind file.

May be that's a source for what I noticed (Debian sid, XP2600+, 1.5GB RAM):
if I start a GB project while there a CPU (or I/O) hungry process running,
half the time GB says its running, but no window shows on screen.

JY
-- 
In which level of metalanguage are you now speaking?



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec  5 18:38:39 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:38:39 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <4B1A8CBF.4080009@...1740...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<200912051635.05987.gambas@...1...>
	<4B1A8CBF.4080009@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912051838.39800.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini schreef:
> >> Beno?t Minisini schreef:
> >>> It should be ok with revision #2456!
> >>>
> >>> If it really works, can you check that changing the flow control
> >>> between None and something else actually has an effect on CPU
> >>> consumption?
> >>
> >> Beno?t,
> >>
> >> no segfaults, but the system load when running my project with the patch
> >> is alot higher than before.
> >>
> >> Before it was 0.2-0.3
> >> Now it's 1.0-1.10
> >>
> >> I'm not using flowcontrol.
> >>
> >> $ grep FlowControl *
> >> CCTX35.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> >> CGPS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> >> CPlugwise.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> >> CRFXComRX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> >> CRFXComTX.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> >> CSMS.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> >> CVISCA.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> >> CWeeder.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> >> CZWave.class:    .FlowControl = 0
> >>
> >> Six of these serialports are active.
> >> And I presume 0 is the same as None.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ron_2nd.
> >
> > That would mean that the Read callback is called endlessly, as if there
> > are always bytes to read on the serial port.
> >
> > Do you use the read event? Can you check that by implementing a Read
> > event handler, check how much time it is called, and check what can be
> > read on the serial port?
> >
> > If there is something to read on the serial port, if there are data to
> > read, and if you don't read it, the Read callback will be called again
> > and again.
> >
> > Regards,
> 
> Benoit,
> 
> runned valgrind tool for a while.
> 
> And I got a rather strange winner, I got 3 milion calls of _add_char in
> gb_error.c
> 
> Some debug code hanging around or something like that?
> 
> See attached valgrind file.
> 
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd.
> 

The reason is a lot of one-byte reading that raises the EOF error. This should 
be logical if the read event handler is called whereas there is nothing to 
read, and then you read one byte.

But why Linux tells me (the interpreter actually) that there is something to 
read on the serial port file descriptor, whereas there is nothing?

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Dec  5 19:47:06 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:47:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] tab
In-Reply-To: <26656660.post@...1379...>
References: <26656660.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912051047p21b27275g43d9d69fb0644c64@...627...>

2009/12/5 yuhej <robert1juhasz at ...626...>:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any option to hide some of the tabs of a tab control? For different
> users I wish to show different information (depending on their right) but I
> don't know if I may make invisible or not enabled some of the tabs.
>
  TabStrip1[0].Visible = FALSE
or    TabStrip1[0].Enabled = FALSE
> Another quesion: can I change the order of the tabs (in design time)?
>
yes you have an option on right click on the form editor
> Thanks,
> Robi
> --
> View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/tab-tp26656660p26656660.html
> Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Sat Dec  5 20:33:05 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:33:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <200912050003.56357.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>	<200912041447.43299.gambas@...1...>	<4B194EB0.1060203@...1909...>
	<200912050003.56357.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1AB571.9060506@...1909...>

Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>> Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>>     
>>>> Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When in the tableview (in edit mode) I press an arrow key, the cursor
>>>>>>> slips on every possible cell in the request direction, until it finds
>>>>>>> the end of the tableview. But this is not enough: if the cursor key
>>>>>>> is Left or Right, the cell walking goes even further, wrapping to the
>>>>>>> next or previous row and restarting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>
> For sure there is somewhere we don't understand each other. :-)
>
> I used a few TableView in the IDE: look at the project property dialog, in the 
> environment tab. You will see how I implemented them: the insert and delete 
> button, the Click, Data, Insert and Save event handlers... Please tell me the 
> difference between what I did there and what you did.
>
> When you sent me your little example, I just added a Click event handler with 
> a call to Edit() inside, and everything worked as expected.
>
> And if things works on some computers without change, maybe they use an old 
> version of Gambas (< 2.13).
>   
Don't take me wrong. Sometimes it seems to me that you don't read the 
whole message before replying, and sometimes it seems to me that the 
real problem is not in evidence (english language plays a role in 
this...). You say that you just added a Click event handler to get the 
program work. Well, this is not the problem. The program *is* correct 
(it does practically nothing). The sample program, without 
modifications, on some machine runs well, and on other machines shows a 
problem that I will explain better. When you say "old version of gambas 
(<2.13)", again it seems that you didn't read carefully what I've 
posted. In every post I specified precisely what gambas version was 
installed, what os was running on, and the QT library.

Now the problem. The problem is that, when the grid is in edit mode, if 
you press a cursor key the cursor does not move to the adiacent cell; it 
does not stop: it travels all the cells until it stops on the upper-left 
cell, or the lower-right one. By doing this, it scrolls the tableview up 
or down, and if the cursor key was Left or Right, it goes to the 
right-most or left-most, then wraps around and restarts. For every 
visited cell a Click event is generated. Note that in the sample program 
there was no Click handler, just to shows precisely that my program does 
nothing strange in the click handler (by doing nothing, you can't do 
anything strange). Now you see that I was not complaining about 
gotfocus, or "not editable" cells, or anything else. I say that a single 
key press should move the cursor by a single cell, not travel the whole 
tableview.

Now the history.

1. I discovered the error on one machine, with an updated debian stable, 
gambas v. 2.15.2, libqt-mt.so.3.3.8, while working on an old 
application. Suspecting that the complexity of the application could 
have hide something, I wrote a new project (the sample program). Same 
error. Then I tried it on the other machine: same OS, same libraries, 
same X server - only gambas different: version 2.0.0. No error.

2. I posted a message on the list, to ask if someone else saw the same 
error. Two users confirmed it - one gambas 2.16, another with gambas 
2.17. So the problem is alive, on at least three machines.

3. I tried on a third machine. Same os, same libraries, gambas 2.15, 
same remote X server. Identical situation. No error.

4. Now I am at home. Same os, same libraries, gambas 2.0.0. No error.

At this point, if someone tells me that I have to modify the program to 
make it work, I ask myself _why_ it works (I have seen more machines on 
which the program works well than machines where the problem shows up). 
On my machines, which are four, I've seen the problem only once. But two 
users on this list confirmed the error. So, it seems to be an error 
which shows up rarely, if we want to say so.

The only idea I have now is to go back to my first machine and 
investigate more. It is very difficult to investigate on an error if 
that error does not show up...

Now I ask you: you say you added a Click event to make the program work 
properly. Why you did so? Why you say this event handler was missing? 
What was the "wrong" behaviour, when the event handler was missing?

I wait for your reply; the next week I will work again on the original 
machine (the only one where I saw the problem), and I am determined to 
see over the fog.

Regards,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec  5 20:48:26 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:48:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912051838.39800.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...> <4B1A8CBF.4080009@...1740...>
	<200912051838.39800.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912052048.26449.gambas@...1...>

> >
> > Benoit,
> >
> > runned valgrind tool for a while.
> >
> > And I got a rather strange winner, I got 3 milion calls of _add_char in
> > gb_error.c
> >
> > Some debug code hanging around or something like that?
> >
> > See attached valgrind file.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ron_2nd.
> 
> The reason is a lot of one-byte reading that raises the EOF error. This
>  should be logical if the read event handler is called whereas there is
>  nothing to read, and then you read one byte.
> 
> But why Linux tells me (the interpreter actually) that there is something
>  to read on the serial port file descriptor, whereas there is nothing?
> 
> Regards,
> 

Hmm. I tested the SerialPort example by sending data to it, and I don't see 
any CPU consumption.

What happens if you don't read the data byte by byte, but all the available 
data at once, as the SerialPort example does? This way:

PUBLIC SUB MySerialPort_Read()
  DIM s AS String
  READ #MySerialPort, s, Lof(MySerialPort) 
  ...
END

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec  5 21:04:59 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:04:59 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <4B1AB571.9060506@...1909...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>
	<200912050003.56357.gambas@...1...>
	<4B1AB571.9060506@...1909...>
Message-ID: <200912052104.59130.gambas@...1...>

> 
> Don't take me wrong. Sometimes it seems to me that you don't read the
> whole message before replying, and sometimes it seems to me that the
> real problem is not in evidence (english language plays a role in
> this...). You say that you just added a Click event handler to get the
> program work. Well, this is not the problem. The program *is* correct
> (it does practically nothing). The sample program, without
> modifications, on some machine runs well, and on other machines shows a
> problem that I will explain better. When you say "old version of gambas
> (<2.13)", again it seems that you didn't read carefully what I've
> posted. In every post I specified precisely what gambas version was
> installed, what os was running on, and the QT library.
> 
> Now the problem. The problem is that, when the grid is in edit mode, if
> you press a cursor key the cursor does not move to the adiacent cell; it
> does not stop: it travels all the cells until it stops on the upper-left
> cell, or the lower-right one. By doing this, it scrolls the tableview up
> or down, and if the cursor key was Left or Right, it goes to the
> right-most or left-most, then wraps around and restarts. For every
> visited cell a Click event is generated. Note that in the sample program
> there was no Click handler, just to shows precisely that my program does
> nothing strange in the click handler (by doing nothing, you can't do
> anything strange). Now you see that I was not complaining about
> gotfocus, or "not editable" cells, or anything else. I say that a single
> key press should move the cursor by a single cell, not travel the whole
> tableview.
> 
> Now the history.
> 
> 1. I discovered the error on one machine, with an updated debian stable,
> gambas v. 2.15.2, libqt-mt.so.3.3.8, while working on an old
> application. Suspecting that the complexity of the application could
> have hide something, I wrote a new project (the sample program). Same
> error. Then I tried it on the other machine: same OS, same libraries,
> same X server - only gambas different: version 2.0.0. No error.
> 
> 2. I posted a message on the list, to ask if someone else saw the same
> error. Two users confirmed it - one gambas 2.16, another with gambas
> 2.17. So the problem is alive, on at least three machines.
> 
> 3. I tried on a third machine. Same os, same libraries, gambas 2.15,
> same remote X server. Identical situation. No error.
> 
> 4. Now I am at home. Same os, same libraries, gambas 2.0.0. No error.
> 
> At this point, if someone tells me that I have to modify the program to
> make it work, I ask myself _why_ it works (I have seen more machines on
> which the program works well than machines where the problem shows up).
> On my machines, which are four, I've seen the problem only once. But two
> users on this list confirmed the error. So, it seems to be an error
> which shows up rarely, if we want to say so.
> 
> The only idea I have now is to go back to my first machine and
> investigate more. It is very difficult to investigate on an error if
> that error does not show up...
> 
> Now I ask you: you say you added a Click event to make the program work
> properly. Why you did so? Why you say this event handler was missing?
> What was the "wrong" behaviour, when the event handler was missing?
> 
> I wait for your reply; the next week I will work again on the original
> machine (the only one where I saw the problem), and I am determined to
> see over the fog.
> 
> Regards,
> 

No, no. I think I read you correctly. I am going to try to explain the things 
differently...

Before Gambas 2.13, when you hit an arrow key in the TableView control, the 
TableView cursor was move by one cell only, and the Edit method was called 
automatically. So things were working *only* for TableView whose all cells are 
editable. For TableView having some cells read-only, the keyboard management 
was flawed.

So, in Gambas 2.13, the Edit method is not called automatically anymore, and I 
decided that a cell will be considered as "non-editable" if the Edit method 
was not called during the Click event. And "non-editable" cells are 
automatically ignored when using the arrow key.

That explains the behaviour you noticed in computers using Gambas >= 2.13. 
(Let's ignore the computer #3 at the moment): for example, if you are on the 
top of the TableView, and if you hit the "down arrow" key, the current cell 
will be moved one by one until an editable cell is found. As you don't call 
the Edit method inside the Click event handler, no cell is considered as 
editable, and so the TableView cursor is moved down to the bottom. I hope I 
was clear!

As for the computer #3: I don't understand that you don't have the problem, as 
the Gambas version is >= 2.15.

To fix your problem, you *have to* call the Edit() method inside the Click 
event handler. It will tell TableView that your cell are editable when the 
user use the arrow keys. But, of course, you *can* use the Edit() method 
outside of the Click event handler.

Then things will work for Gambas >= 2.13, and stay the same for Gambas < 2.13.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From nando_f at ...951...  Sat Dec  5 21:14:04 2009
From: nando_f at ...951... (nando)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:14:04 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912052048.26449.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...> <4B1A8CBF.4080009@...1740...>
	<200912051838.39800.gambas@...1...>
	<200912052048.26449.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <20091205200748.M63486@...951...>

Benoit,
Just to let you know, for your information only.
My serial port applicationS that have been running 24 hours for 4 years on
over 150 computers works much better when pull out All less 1 byte each 
_Read event as opposed to.
I've found out that sometimes, rarely, _Read didn't fire and this worked better.
Still Using 1.0.18 or .19  and solid as a rock!!
-Fernando


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:48:26 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after Upgrade to Karmic

> > >
> > > Benoit,
> > >
> > > runned valgrind tool for a while.
> > >
> > > And I got a rather strange winner, I got 3 milion calls of _add_char in
> > > gb_error.c
> > >
> > > Some debug code hanging around or something like that?
> > >
> > > See attached valgrind file.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ron_2nd.
> > 
> > The reason is a lot of one-byte reading that raises the EOF error. This
> >  should be logical if the read event handler is called whereas there is
> >  nothing to read, and then you read one byte.
> > 
> > But why Linux tells me (the interpreter actually) that there is something
> >  to read on the serial port file descriptor, whereas there is nothing?
> > 
> > Regards,
> >
> 
> Hmm. I tested the SerialPort example by sending data to it, and I don't see 
> any CPU consumption.
> 
> What happens if you don't read the data byte by byte, but all the available 
> data at once, as the SerialPort example does? This way:
> 
> PUBLIC SUB MySerialPort_Read()
>   DIM s AS String
>   READ #MySerialPort, s, Lof(MySerialPort) 
>   ...
> END
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. 
> Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
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------- End of Original Message -------



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec  5 21:56:41 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:56:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <20091205200748.M63486@...951...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<200912052048.26449.gambas@...1...>
	<20091205200748.M63486@...951...>
Message-ID: <200912052156.41340.gambas@...1...>

> Benoit,
> Just to let you know, for your information only.
> My serial port applicationS that have been running 24 hours for 4 years on
> over 150 computers works much better when pull out All less 1 byte each
> _Read event as opposed to.

I didn't understand the last sentence. Do you read bytes one by one or all at 
once? You should read all available bytes at once, by using the Lof() 
function.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Sat Dec  5 22:49:23 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:49:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview when in edit mode
In-Reply-To: <200912052104.59130.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B17DE04.1070604@...1909...>	<200912050003.56357.gambas@...1...>	<4B1AB571.9060506@...1909...>
	<200912052104.59130.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1AD563.1050704@...1909...>

Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>> Don't take me wrong. Sometimes it seems to me that you don't read the
>> whole message before replying, and sometimes it seems to me that the
>> real problem is not in evidence (english language plays a role in
>> this...). You say that you just added a Click event handler to get the
>> program work. Well, this is not the problem. The program *is* correct
>> (it does practically nothing). The sample program, without
>> modifications, on some machine runs well, and on other machines shows a
>> problem that I will explain better. When you say "old version of gambas
>> (<2.13)", again it seems that you didn't read carefully what I've
>> posted. In every post I specified precisely what gambas version was
>> installed, what os was running on, and the QT library.
>>
>> Now the problem. The problem is that, when the grid is in edit mode, if
>> you press a cursor key the cursor does not move to the adiacent cell; it
>> does not stop: it travels all the cells until it stops on the upper-left
>> cell, or the lower-right one. By doing this, it scrolls the tableview up
>> or down, and if the cursor key was Left or Right, it goes to the
>> right-most or left-most, then wraps around and restarts. For every
>> visited cell a Click event is generated. Note that in the sample program
>> there was no Click handler, just to shows precisely that my program does
>> nothing strange in the click handler (by doing nothing, you can't do
>> anything strange). Now you see that I was not complaining about
>> gotfocus, or "not editable" cells, or anything else. I say that a single
>> key press should move the cursor by a single cell, not travel the whole
>> tableview.
>>
>> Now the history.
>>
>> 1. I discovered the error on one machine, with an updated debian stable,
>> gambas v. 2.15.2, libqt-mt.so.3.3.8, while working on an old
>> application. Suspecting that the complexity of the application could
>> have hide something, I wrote a new project (the sample program). Same
>> error. Then I tried it on the other machine: same OS, same libraries,
>> same X server - only gambas different: version 2.0.0. No error.
>>
>> 2. I posted a message on the list, to ask if someone else saw the same
>> error. Two users confirmed it - one gambas 2.16, another with gambas
>> 2.17. So the problem is alive, on at least three machines.
>>
>> 3. I tried on a third machine. Same os, same libraries, gambas 2.15,
>> same remote X server. Identical situation. No error.
>>
>> 4. Now I am at home. Same os, same libraries, gambas 2.0.0. No error.
>>
>> At this point, if someone tells me that I have to modify the program to
>> make it work, I ask myself _why_ it works (I have seen more machines on
>> which the program works well than machines where the problem shows up).
>> On my machines, which are four, I've seen the problem only once. But two
>> users on this list confirmed the error. So, it seems to be an error
>> which shows up rarely, if we want to say so.
>>
>> The only idea I have now is to go back to my first machine and
>> investigate more. It is very difficult to investigate on an error if
>> that error does not show up...
>>
>> Now I ask you: you say you added a Click event to make the program work
>> properly. Why you did so? Why you say this event handler was missing?
>> What was the "wrong" behaviour, when the event handler was missing?
>>
>> I wait for your reply; the next week I will work again on the original
>> machine (the only one where I saw the problem), and I am determined to
>> see over the fog.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     
>
> No, no. I think I read you correctly. I am going to try to explain the things 
> differently...
>
> Before Gambas 2.13, when you hit an arrow key in the TableView control, the 
> TableView cursor was move by one cell only, and the Edit method was called 
> automatically. So things were working *only* for TableView whose all cells are 
> editable. For TableView having some cells read-only, the keyboard management 
> was flawed.
>
> So, in Gambas 2.13, the Edit method is not called automatically anymore, and I 
> decided that a cell will be considered as "non-editable" if the Edit method 
> was not called during the Click event. And "non-editable" cells are 
> automatically ignored when using the arrow key.
>
> That explains the behaviour you noticed in computers using Gambas >= 2.13. 
> (Let's ignore the computer #3 at the moment): for example, if you are on the 
> top of the TableView, and if you hit the "down arrow" key, the current cell 
> will be moved one by one until an editable cell is found. As you don't call 
> the Edit method inside the Click event handler, no cell is considered as 
> editable, and so the TableView cursor is moved down to the bottom. I hope I 
> was clear!
>
> As for the computer #3: I don't understand that you don't have the problem, as 
> the Gambas version is >= 2.15.
>
> To fix your problem, you *have to* call the Edit() method inside the Click 
> event handler. It will tell TableView that your cell are editable when the 
> user use the arrow keys. But, of course, you *can* use the Edit() method 
> outside of the Click event handler.
>
> Then things will work for Gambas >= 2.13, and stay the same for Gambas < 2.13.
>
> Regards,
>
>   
Ok, so we are talking about the same thing :-)

But this does not explain why the program works well the other times 
(computer #3, for example).

Knowing what there is behind, I will experiment (try to call edit in the 
click event: this should stop the crazy traveling).

But, I think that traveling many cells is anyway wrong - it is too easy 
to get the wrong behaviour. Would not it be more predictable to move 
just one cell, and simply avoid to enter the edit mode? This way, a 
programmer could understand that he should call edit() again.

Thanks for the more clear reply.

Regards,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From keithclark at ...2185...  Sat Dec  5 23:18:36 2009
From: keithclark at ...2185... (Keith Clark)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:18:36 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] MySQL access example
Message-ID: <1260051516.3631.6.camel@...2336...>

Does anyone have an example program that I can take a look at that
accesses a remote MySQL database?

Keith





From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sun Dec  6 00:34:33 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:34:33 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Directories?
In-Reply-To: <200912040002.54105.dkmerriman@...626...>
References: <200912040002.54105.dkmerriman@...626...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912051534u4059c3a0n4d4642b62ae631d9@...627...>

2009/12/4 Dave Merriman <dkmerriman at ...626...>:

> I've got some text files that I need to read into an array (I ?*really*
> wish Gambas had an easy way to embed array data _in_ the program, like
> the old "data 4, 17, 32, 88..." of BASIC days)

It does have such a feature. It all depends on how many more ways than
one you can think of to skin a cat.

Take a look at the attached example.
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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sun Dec  6 01:45:09 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:45:09 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Need a Ubuntu/Linux teacher
In-Reply-To: <1260016783.1880.16.camel@...2329...>
References: <1260016783.1880.16.camel@...2329...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912051645j656de3a1s5ef1d552c5e92c98@...627...>

2009/12/5 John <kb2scs at ...2326...>:

> I can make a Windows box sing.

I tend to agree with Emil, lots of searching and reading on google is
advised, but temper it with your own knowledge - some of the stuff out
there is just downright wrong. I was a Windows developer and have
decades of experience with it. I learned linux and gambas by trial and
error and I am still learning by trial and error to this day.

This weekend alone I installed no less than six linux distros; Arch,
Gentoo, Sabayon, kubuntu and Mandriva (can't remember the sixth), only
to learn that I should have stayed with Ubuntu :)

Ok, I learned something else too in the process. I can install qt4 on
Ubuntu and have gambas create lovely qt-based apps instead of being
forced to use the awful GTK engine. Yes, I could have just used
kubuntu but KDE is really bloody ugly and overly complex IMO :)

Anyway, that said, google, persevere and ask when you're truly stuck.
There is certain je ne sais quoi about discovering for oneself what is
probably common knowledge amongst the gurus.



From nando_f at ...951...  Sun Dec  6 05:03:53 2009
From: nando_f at ...951... (nando)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 23:03:53 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912052156.41340.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<200912052048.26449.gambas@...1...>
	<20091205200748.M63486@...951...>
	<200912052156.41340.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <20091206035934.M35980@...951...>

I found out that reading one by one is a slow process,
I found out that reading all Lof will in a rare instance _READ will not fire
when only 1 byte arrives immediately after.
I find it works correctly 100% when I read Lof()-1 and rely on _Read to fire again.
for the one remaining and the new one arriving immediately after.


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
To: nando_f at ...951..., mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:56:41 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after Upgrade to Karmic

> > Benoit,
> > Just to let you know, for your information only.
> > My serial port applicationS that have been running 24 hours for 4 years on
> > over 150 computers works much better when pull out All less 1 byte each
> > _Read event as opposed to.
> 
> I didn't understand the last sentence. Do you read bytes one by one or all at 
> once? You should read all available bytes at once, by using the Lof() 
> function.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience,
> a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. 
> Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
------- End of Original Message -------



From robert1juhasz at ...626...  Sun Dec  6 09:23:47 2009
From: robert1juhasz at ...626... (Robert JUHASZ)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:23:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] tab
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912051047p21b27275g43d9d69fb0644c64@...627...>
References: <26656660.post@...1379...>
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Perfect, thx!

2009/12/5 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>

> 2009/12/5 yuhej <robert1juhasz at ...626...>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there any option to hide some of the tabs of a tab control? For
> different
> > users I wish to show different information (depending on their right) but
> I
> > don't know if I may make invisible or not enabled some of the tabs.
> >
>  TabStrip1[0].Visible = FALSE
> or    TabStrip1[0].Enabled = FALSE
> > Another quesion: can I change the order of the tabs (in design time)?
> >
> yes you have an option on right click on the form editor
> > Thanks,
> > Robi
> > --
> > View this message in context:
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> >
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From charles at ...1784...  Sun Dec  6 11:17:32 2009
From: charles at ...1784... (charlesg)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:17:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] MySQL access example
In-Reply-To: <1260051516.3631.6.camel@...2336...>
References: <1260051516.3631.6.camel@...2336...>
Message-ID: <26663560.post@...1379...>


Hi

I don't think Gambas is too particular where it reads the mySQL server.

If you mean remote on network (not remote on internet) then the following
(for Ubuntu) might help.

Set router to use fixed addresses or at least ensure that the mySQL server
boots first to always use same address.

on server:
comment out skip-networking in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
comment out bind address in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
(I am not sure this is too secure but it works - would welcome expert
comment on this!)

allow remote connection from your lan subnet e.g. 192.168.1.0/24:
sudo /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp
--destination-port 3306 -j ACCEPT
(you may not be using eth0)

grant all on stock.* to charles@'192.168.2.3' identified by 'dog';
from mySQL on server.

from terminal on the remote machine you should be able to connect now with:
mysql -h 192.168.1.2 -u charles -p
(where the address is the server address)

Once that works, Gambas simply becomes:
	WITH conn
      		.Type = "mysql"
     		.Host = "192.168.1.5" (or whatever)
      		.Login = "charles"
     		.password = "dog"
     		.Name = "stock"
 	 END WITH
 	 TRY conn.Open
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From demosthenesk at ...626...  Sun Dec  6 12:13:31 2009
From: demosthenesk at ...626... (Demosthenes Koptsis)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 13:13:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] MySQL access example
In-Reply-To: <1260051516.3631.6.camel@...2336...>
References: <1260051516.3631.6.camel@...2336...>
Message-ID: <d34b87410912060313j5712b444w117c7f917b3b1768@...627...>

u can see this project

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gambas-mysqladm/


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Keith Clark <keithclark at ...2185...> wrote:
> Does anyone have an example program that I can take a look at that
> accesses a remote MySQL database?
>
> Keith
>
>
>
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???? ???? ?? ?????!!!

Regards,

Demosthenes Koptsis



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Dec  6 12:27:49 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:27:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working after
	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <20091206035934.M35980@...951...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>
	<200912052156.41340.gambas@...1...>
	<20091206035934.M35980@...951...>
Message-ID: <200912061227.49891.gambas@...1...>

> I found out that reading one by one is a slow process,
> I found out that reading all Lof will in a rare instance _READ will not
>  fire when only 1 byte arrives immediately after.
> I find it works correctly 100% when I read Lof()-1 and rely on _Read to
>  fire again. for the one remaining and the new one arriving immediately
>  after.
> 

Uh... Very strange! It would be cool if you could try your program with the 
latest Gambas 2 or Gambas 3 and see if you have to do the same trick.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ajw4me at ...466...  Sun Dec  6 21:59:24 2009
From: ajw4me at ...466... (Tony)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:59:24 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial Port Change Events Not Working
 after	Upgrade to Karmic
In-Reply-To: <200912061227.49891.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B14CECA.1090403@...466...>	<200912052156.41340.gambas@...1...>	<20091206035934.M35980@...951...>
	<200912061227.49891.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1C1B2C.6020403@...466...>


   Beno?t Minisini wrote:

I found out that reading one by one is a slow process,
I found out that reading all Lof will in a rare instance _READ will not
 fire when only 1 byte arrives immediately after.
I find it works correctly 100% when I read Lof()-1 and rely on _Read to
 fire again. for the one remaining and the new one arriving immediately
 after.

    

Uh... Very strange! It would be cool if you could try your program with the 
latest Gambas 2 or Gambas 3 and see if you have to do the same trick.

Regards,

  

   Hi all,
   I'd just like to report that with revision 2459, the change events have been
   restored for my application. I tried flowcontrol none/hardware/software/both
   and couldn't pick any appreciable difference in CPU utilisation. The funny
   thing is that the anomoly reported in a previous email -  " The application
   also uses the UDPsocket to communicate remotely and what I have noticed is
   that if the serial port does not open correctly e.g. /dev/tty wrong and the
   UDPsocket is open, then there is a large amount of CPU used. Both open
   correctly and CPU normal" - appears to be fixed. Whilst I don't understand
   why this has been fixed, it would seem to be another plus.
   Regards,
   Tony.


From prog at ...2177...  Mon Dec  7 18:16:53 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:16:53 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing a Gambas program independent of the
 distribution through DIR GB
Message-ID: <1260206213.3622.7.camel@...651...>

Hello Benoit.

 I'm trying to run Gambas on a computer that does not have the component
packages, based on the help that you gave the user JGuardon, which
wanted to run Gambas on a USB stick.
 In one of the points of support, type:

 2)copy the installation directory Gambas in another folder. Let's name
it "/my/Gambas/dir". 

Question: 

What installation directory is copied?. Those who are in usr/local/bin,
usr/local/lib, usr/local/share?, Or the program directory is being
created.

 At another point he said: 

3) Create a script like that: 

#!/bin/sh
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/my/ld/dir:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export GB_DIR=/my/gambas/dir
exec /my/application.gambas

Question: 

This script, which must be saved to be executed?. 

If you could give some idea, I appreciate it. 

Regards


From gambas at ...1...  Mon Dec  7 18:27:43 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:27:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] libtool problem
In-Reply-To: <200911281514.52033.lordheavy@...1...>
References: <4B1120F2.6050502@...69...>
	<200911281514.52033.lordheavy@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912071827.43097.gambas@...1...>

> Le samedi 28 novembre 2009 14:09:06, o.s.p a ?crit :
> > hallo!
> > frugalware (current) here with libtool 2.2.6b
> > when in make install step i have this error:
> > .....
> > libtool: Version mismatch error.  This is libtool 2.2.6, but the
> > libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.2.6b.
> > libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.6
> > libtool: and run autoconf again.
> > make[2]: *** [gbc3] Error 63
> > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/god/Desktop/src/g/trunk/main/gbc'
> > make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/god/Desktop/src/g/trunk/main'
> > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> >
> >
> > thanks
> >
> 
> Put this file in the root of gambas dir and run ./reconf-all
> It's only a quick workaround but it's working.
> 
> ++
> 

Is it worth adding that workaround to the source tree?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lordheavym at ...626...  Mon Dec  7 20:04:57 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:04:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] libtool problem
In-Reply-To: <200912071827.43097.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B1120F2.6050502@...69...>
	<200911281514.52033.lordheavy@...1...>
	<200912071827.43097.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912072004.57881.lordheavy@...1...>

Le lundi 07 d?cembre 2009 18:27:43, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > Le samedi 28 novembre 2009 14:09:06, o.s.p a ?crit :
> > > hallo!
> > > frugalware (current) here with libtool 2.2.6b
> > > when in make install step i have this error:
> > > .....
> > > libtool: Version mismatch error.  This is libtool 2.2.6, but the
> > > libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.2.6b.
> > > libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.6
> > > libtool: and run autoconf again.
> > > make[2]: *** [gbc3] Error 63
> > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/god/Desktop/src/g/trunk/main/gbc'
> > > make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/god/Desktop/src/g/trunk/main'
> > > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks
> >
> > Put this file in the root of gambas dir and run ./reconf-all
> > It's only a quick workaround but it's working.
> >
> > ++
> 
> Is it worth adding that workaround to the source tree?
> 

it would be better to add this through a "--force" option (not yet done), it's 
the reason it's not yet done :-)

++



From euph1 at ...734...  Mon Dec  7 21:39:47 2009
From: euph1 at ...734... (mike)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:39:47 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
Message-ID: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...>

I'm having trouble with Gambas and the serial ports.
Something is changing binary &h0d to &h0a when received
from a serial port. I noticed it in a program that I've
been working on that receives packets of binary data
from a microprocessor. I wrote a little test program to
demonstrate the problem and have included it below. I also
reprogrammed the micro to simply send &h0d as long a
pushbutton is held depressed. I have verified that the
correct data is indeed being sent using CuteCom to display
the binary data.
An interesting thing that I noticed when I ran CuteCom to
test the data being received is that if I close CuteCom without
closing the serial port first then run my Gambas program, it works
fine until I restart the system. If I close the port before closing
CuteCom then my Gambas program fails.


This is the code for the test program.

' Gambas class file
' Using Gambas 2.18 on a system running
' Fedora Kernel (26.30.9-102.fc11.x86_64)
' It also fails running Gambas 2.11
' on my laptop running
' Fedora Kernel (2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686)

PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()

   ME.Center

' Setup the serial port - 9600,8,N,1

'  SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyS0"     ' Both ports fail
   SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyUSB0"    ' This the port I'll eventually use
   SerPort1.Speed = "9600"               ' because the laptop has no 
serial port.
   SerPort1.DataBits = "8"
   SerPort1.Parity = "0"
   SerPort1.StopBits = "1"
   SerPort1.Open

   TextArea1.Text = SerPort1.PortName & Chr$(10)
END

PUBLIC SUB SerPort1_Read()

' A microprocessor is connected to the serial port and
' continuously sends &h0d (CR) as long a push button is held down.

DIM InByte AS Byte

   READ #SerPort1, InByte
   TextArea1.Insert(Hex$(InByte) & " ")
' The textarea displays a series of "A " (LF) instead of "D " (CR)
END

PUBLIC SUB ExitBtn_Click()

   SerPort1.Close
   QUIT
END

PUBLIC SUB ClearBtn_Click()

   TextArea1.Clear
END



From rterry at ...1946...  Tue Dec  8 04:50:46 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:50:46 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Printing from a webview
Message-ID: <200912081450.47002.rterry@...1946...>

I wondered if anyone knew how to print from this control - it dosn't seem to  
have a print function like the old konqueror webrowser.

Regards

Richard



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Tue Dec  8 10:32:08 2009
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:32:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas on 64 bit
Message-ID: <4B1E1D18.1070400@...221...>

Hi,

just because I've never had this problem but have to plan for the future:

Does Gambas1 run on 64 bit systems?

And what about Gambas2 ?

Thanks for your advice...

Rolf



From ron at ...1740...  Tue Dec  8 10:42:52 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:42:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas on 64 bit
In-Reply-To: <4B1E1D18.1070400@...221...>
References: <4B1E1D18.1070400@...221...>
Message-ID: <4B1E1F9C.1090509@...1740...>

Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just because I've never had this problem but have to plan for the future:
>
> Does Gambas1 run on 64 bit systems?
>
> And what about Gambas2 ?
>
> Thanks for your advice...
>
>
>   
Gambas 1, no.
Gambas 2.18.0 yes, without problems.

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Tue Dec  8 11:02:35 2009
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:02:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas on 64 bit
In-Reply-To: <4B1E1F9C.1090509@...1740...>
References: <4B1E1D18.1070400@...221...> <4B1E1F9C.1090509@...1740...>
Message-ID: <4B1E243B.2000809@...221...>

Ron schrieb:
> Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> just because I've never had this problem but have to plan for the future:
>>
>> Does Gambas1 run on 64 bit systems?
>>
>> And what about Gambas2 ?
>>
>> Thanks for your advice...
>>
>>
>>   
> Gambas 1, no.
> Gambas 2.18.0 yes, without problems.
> 
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd.

Thank you Ron, that means I'll have to review my Gambas1 apps which 
still run here prior to updating the system...


Regards

Rolf



From les at ...2337...  Tue Dec  8 11:35:00 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:35:00 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...>
Message-ID: <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>



mike wrote:
> I'm having trouble with Gambas and the serial ports.
> Something is changing binary &h0d to &h0a when received
> from a serial port. I noticed it in a program that I've
> been working on that receives packets of binary data
> from a microprocessor. I wrote a little test program to
> demonstrate the problem and have included it below. I also
> reprogrammed the micro to simply send &h0d as long a
> pushbutton is held depressed. I have verified that the
> correct data is indeed being sent using CuteCom to display
> the binary data.
> An interesting thing that I noticed when I ran CuteCom to
> test the data being received is that if I close CuteCom without
> closing the serial port first then run my Gambas program, it works
> fine until I restart the system. If I close the port before closing
> CuteCom then my Gambas program fails.
> 
> 
> This is the code for the test program.
> 
> ' Gambas class file
> ' Using Gambas 2.18 on a system running
> ' Fedora Kernel (26.30.9-102.fc11.x86_64)
> ' It also fails running Gambas 2.11
> ' on my laptop running
> ' Fedora Kernel (2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686)
> 
> PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
> 
>    ME.Center
> 
> ' Setup the serial port - 9600,8,N,1
> 
> '  SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyS0"     ' Both ports fail
>    SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyUSB0"    ' This the port I'll eventually use
>    SerPort1.Speed = "9600"               ' because the laptop has no 
> serial port.
>    SerPort1.DataBits = "8"
>    SerPort1.Parity = "0"
>    SerPort1.StopBits = "1"
>    SerPort1.Open
> 
>    TextArea1.Text = SerPort1.PortName & Chr$(10)
> END
> 
> PUBLIC SUB SerPort1_Read()
> 
> ' A microprocessor is connected to the serial port and
> ' continuously sends &h0d (CR) as long a push button is held down.
> 
> DIM InByte AS Byte
> 
>    READ #SerPort1, InByte
>    TextArea1.Insert(Hex$(InByte) & " ")
> ' The textarea displays a series of "A " (LF) instead of "D " (CR)
> END
> 
> PUBLIC SUB ExitBtn_Click()
> 
>    SerPort1.Close
>    QUIT
> END
> 
> PUBLIC SUB ClearBtn_Click()
> 
>    TextArea1.Clear
> END
>


This is a Linux thing. Not Gambas. The icrnl flaf is set as standard.
Easiest way is to use stty to change it.

SHELL "stty -F " & SerPort1.PortName & " -icrnl"





From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec  8 13:16:43 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:16:43 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...> <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912080416u416be72ftc598551ce726a359@...627...>

2009/12/8 Les Hardy <les at ...2337...>:

> This is a Linux thing. Not Gambas.

Linux has a lot of "things". I learned the hard way that localhost
TCP/IP ports below 1024 are protected. Sheesh. I lost a full day to
that. Today I lost several hours to Gambas behaviour that is expained
by bugs in Qt3.

Nevertheless your point is valuable. I'm going to mark your "Linux
thing" for inclusion in the documentation. Of course, I first have to
figure out if icrnl flaf is a typo or an esoteric command line :)



From les at ...2337...  Tue Dec  8 15:10:59 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:10:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912080416u416be72ftc598551ce726a359@...627...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...> <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
	<c811bd7b0912080416u416be72ftc598551ce726a359@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B1E5E73.3080804@...2337...>

Kadaitcha Man wrote:
I first have to figure out if icrnl flaf is a typo or an esoteric 
command line :)
> 
Yes, esoteric, makes me feel special. Only a few know about flafs.

Then again, it could just be flag.




From mohareve at ...626...  Tue Dec  8 17:40:48 2009
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:40:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to close a modal dialog form?
Message-ID: <cf2b66e0912080840r7bea5159icdd4fcd61cacc071@...627...>

Since the language of help documents aren't as clear to me, and I saw no
practical example I need your help. I would like to have a template message
dialog with title, text and an image I wrote a subroutine which would do the
things. It has an OK button upon itself, but I cannot close the window. I
would like this window to block other forms. How could I do that

PUBLIC SUB Messenger(naslov AS String, tekst AS String, slika AS String)
DIM imge AS PictureBox
DIM conti AS TextLabel
DIM butty AS Button
keret = NEW Form
keret.Width = 500
keret.Height = 300
keret.Title = naslov
imge = NEW PictureBox(keret)
imge.x = 0
imge.y = 0
imge.Width = 280
imge.Height = 280
imge.Border = TRUE
imge.Picture = Picture[slika]
conti = NEW TextLabel(keret)
conti.x = 300
conti.y = 20
conti.Width = 190
conti.Height = 230
conti.Text = tekst
butty = NEW Button(keret)
butty.x = 340
butty.y = 250
butty.Width = 120
butty.Height = 25
butty.Text = MessageYes.Text
keret.Center
keret.ShowModal()
Object.Attach(butty, ME, "Ops")
Message("Hm")
END

PUBLIC SUB Ops_Click() AS Integer
keret.Close()
END


From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec  8 18:03:37 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:03:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to close a modal dialog form?
In-Reply-To: <cf2b66e0912080840r7bea5159icdd4fcd61cacc071@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912080840r7bea5159icdd4fcd61cacc071@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B1E86E9.5040205@...1909...>

M. Cs. ha scritto:
> Since the language of help documents aren't as clear to me, and I saw no
> practical example I need your help. I would like to have a template message
> dialog with title, text and an image I wrote a subroutine which would do the
> things. It has an OK button upon itself, but I cannot close the window. I
> would like this window to block other forms. How could I do that
>
> PUBLIC SUB Messenger(naslov AS String, tekst AS String, slika AS String)
> DIM imge AS PictureBox
> DIM conti AS TextLabel
> DIM butty AS Button
> keret = NEW Form
> keret.Width = 500
> keret.Height = 300
> keret.Title = naslov
> imge = NEW PictureBox(keret)
> imge.x = 0
> imge.y = 0
> imge.Width = 280
> imge.Height = 280
> imge.Border = TRUE
> imge.Picture = Picture[slika]
> conti = NEW TextLabel(keret)
> conti.x = 300
> conti.y = 20
> conti.Width = 190
> conti.Height = 230
> conti.Text = tekst
> butty = NEW Button(keret)
> butty.x = 340
> butty.y = 250
> butty.Width = 120
> butty.Height = 25
> butty.Text = MessageYes.Text
> keret.Center
> keret.ShowModal()
> Object.Attach(butty, ME, "Ops")
> Message("Hm")
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB Ops_Click() AS Integer
> keret.Close()
> END
>   
Really not shure, but probably you must attach() before doing showmodal()...
In fact, showmodal is meant to stop the execution until the user closes 
the modal form.

Salut,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From euph1 at ...734...  Tue Dec  8 18:13:17 2009
From: euph1 at ...734... (mike)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:13:17 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ???? -- Solved
In-Reply-To: <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...> <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
Message-ID: <4B1E892D.3080008@...734...>

Ahh, Thank you. Now I can move on to finish my project.

<snip>
>
> This is a Linux thing. Not Gambas. The icrnl flaf is set as standard.
> Easiest way is to use stty to change it.
>
> SHELL "stty -F "&  SerPort1.PortName&  " -icrnl"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Return on Information:
> Google Enterprise Search pays you back
> Get the facts.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev
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>
>    



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Dec  8 19:01:46 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:01:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Printing from a webview
In-Reply-To: <200912081450.47002.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912081450.47002.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <200912081901.46637.gambas@...1...>

> I wondered if anyone knew how to print from this control - it dosn't seem
>  to have a print function like the old konqueror webrowser.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Richard
> 

Yes, I must add it...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Dec  8 19:03:38 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:03:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...> <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
Message-ID: <200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>

> mike wrote:
> > I'm having trouble with Gambas and the serial ports.
> > Something is changing binary &h0d to &h0a when received
> > from a serial port. I noticed it in a program that I've
> > been working on that receives packets of binary data
> > from a microprocessor. I wrote a little test program to
> > demonstrate the problem and have included it below. I also
> > reprogrammed the micro to simply send &h0d as long a
> > pushbutton is held depressed. I have verified that the
> > correct data is indeed being sent using CuteCom to display
> > the binary data.
> > An interesting thing that I noticed when I ran CuteCom to
> > test the data being received is that if I close CuteCom without
> > closing the serial port first then run my Gambas program, it works
> > fine until I restart the system. If I close the port before closing
> > CuteCom then my Gambas program fails.
> >
> >
> > This is the code for the test program.
> >
> > ' Gambas class file
> > ' Using Gambas 2.18 on a system running
> > ' Fedora Kernel (26.30.9-102.fc11.x86_64)
> > ' It also fails running Gambas 2.11
> > ' on my laptop running
> > ' Fedora Kernel (2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686)
> >
> > PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
> >
> >    ME.Center
> >
> > ' Setup the serial port - 9600,8,N,1
> >
> > '  SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyS0"     ' Both ports fail
> >    SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyUSB0"    ' This the port I'll eventually
> > use SerPort1.Speed = "9600"               ' because the laptop has no
> > serial port.
> >    SerPort1.DataBits = "8"
> >    SerPort1.Parity = "0"
> >    SerPort1.StopBits = "1"
> >    SerPort1.Open
> >
> >    TextArea1.Text = SerPort1.PortName & Chr$(10)
> > END
> >
> > PUBLIC SUB SerPort1_Read()
> >
> > ' A microprocessor is connected to the serial port and
> > ' continuously sends &h0d (CR) as long a push button is held down.
> >
> > DIM InByte AS Byte
> >
> >    READ #SerPort1, InByte
> >    TextArea1.Insert(Hex$(InByte) & " ")
> > ' The textarea displays a series of "A " (LF) instead of "D " (CR)
> > END
> >
> > PUBLIC SUB ExitBtn_Click()
> >
> >    SerPort1.Close
> >    QUIT
> > END
> >
> > PUBLIC SUB ClearBtn_Click()
> >
> >    TextArea1.Clear
> > END
> 
> This is a Linux thing. Not Gambas. The icrnl flaf is set as standard.
> Easiest way is to use stty to change it.
> 
> SHELL "stty -F " & SerPort1.PortName & " -icrnl"
> 

I'm not a serial port user at all, and I find that behaviour a bit strange.

Would it be useful to make a property for that? Or maybe it does already exist 
in the SerialPort class, and I didn't see it.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ron at ...1740...  Tue Dec  8 19:31:19 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:31:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...> <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
	<200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1E9B77.1050303@...1740...>

Beno?t Minisini schreef:
>> mike wrote:
>>     
>>> I'm having trouble with Gambas and the serial ports.
>>> Something is changing binary &h0d to &h0a when received
>>> from a serial port. I noticed it in a program that I've
>>> been working on that receives packets of binary data
>>> from a microprocessor. I wrote a little test program to
>>> demonstrate the problem and have included it below. I also
>>> reprogrammed the micro to simply send &h0d as long a
>>> pushbutton is held depressed. I have verified that the
>>> correct data is indeed being sent using CuteCom to display
>>> the binary data.
>>> An interesting thing that I noticed when I ran CuteCom to
>>> test the data being received is that if I close CuteCom without
>>> closing the serial port first then run my Gambas program, it works
>>> fine until I restart the system. If I close the port before closing
>>> CuteCom then my Gambas program fails.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the code for the test program.
>>>
>>> ' Gambas class file
>>> ' Using Gambas 2.18 on a system running
>>> ' Fedora Kernel (26.30.9-102.fc11.x86_64)
>>> ' It also fails running Gambas 2.11
>>> ' on my laptop running
>>> ' Fedora Kernel (2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686)
>>>
>>> PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
>>>
>>>    ME.Center
>>>
>>> ' Setup the serial port - 9600,8,N,1
>>>
>>> '  SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyS0"     ' Both ports fail
>>>    SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyUSB0"    ' This the port I'll eventually
>>> use SerPort1.Speed = "9600"               ' because the laptop has no
>>> serial port.
>>>    SerPort1.DataBits = "8"
>>>    SerPort1.Parity = "0"
>>>    SerPort1.StopBits = "1"
>>>    SerPort1.Open
>>>
>>>    TextArea1.Text = SerPort1.PortName & Chr$(10)
>>> END
>>>
>>> PUBLIC SUB SerPort1_Read()
>>>
>>> ' A microprocessor is connected to the serial port and
>>> ' continuously sends &h0d (CR) as long a push button is held down.
>>>
>>> DIM InByte AS Byte
>>>
>>>    READ #SerPort1, InByte
>>>    TextArea1.Insert(Hex$(InByte) & " ")
>>> ' The textarea displays a series of "A " (LF) instead of "D " (CR)
>>> END
>>>
>>> PUBLIC SUB ExitBtn_Click()
>>>
>>>    SerPort1.Close
>>>    QUIT
>>> END
>>>
>>> PUBLIC SUB ClearBtn_Click()
>>>
>>>    TextArea1.Clear
>>> END
>>>       
>> This is a Linux thing. Not Gambas. The icrnl flaf is set as standard.
>> Easiest way is to use stty to change it.
>>
>> SHELL "stty -F " & SerPort1.PortName & " -icrnl"
>>
>>     
>
> I'm not a serial port user at all, and I find that behaviour a bit strange.
>
>   

Me too.

I have build serial support for about 10 different hardware devices in 
my Gambas project both binary and ASCII and didn't stumble upon this 
strange behavior (yet?)

Regards,
Ron_2nd.




From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec  8 20:05:08 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:05:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <4B1E9B77.1050303@...1740...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...>
	<4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>	<200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>
	<4B1E9B77.1050303@...1740...>
Message-ID: <4B1EA364.8030509@...1909...>

Ron ha scritto:
> Beno?t Minisini schreef:
>   
>>> mike wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> I'm having trouble with Gambas and the serial ports.
>>>> Something is changing binary &h0d to &h0a when received
>>>> from a serial port. I noticed it in a program that I've
>>>> been working on that receives packets of binary data
>>>> from a microprocessor. I wrote a little test program to
>>>> demonstrate the problem and have included it below. I also
>>>> reprogrammed the micro to simply send &h0d as long a
>>>> pushbutton is held depressed. I have verified that the
>>>> correct data is indeed being sent using CuteCom to display
>>>> the binary data.
>>>> An interesting thing that I noticed when I ran CuteCom to
>>>> test the data being received is that if I close CuteCom without
>>>> closing the serial port first then run my Gambas program, it works
>>>> fine until I restart the system. If I close the port before closing
>>>> CuteCom then my Gambas program fails.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is the code for the test program.
>>>>
>>>> ' Gambas class file
>>>> ' Using Gambas 2.18 on a system running
>>>> ' Fedora Kernel (26.30.9-102.fc11.x86_64)
>>>> ' It also fails running Gambas 2.11
>>>> ' on my laptop running
>>>> ' Fedora Kernel (2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686)
>>>>
>>>> PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
>>>>
>>>>    ME.Center
>>>>
>>>> ' Setup the serial port - 9600,8,N,1
>>>>
>>>> '  SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyS0"     ' Both ports fail
>>>>    SerPort1.PortName = "/dev/ttyUSB0"    ' This the port I'll eventually
>>>> use SerPort1.Speed = "9600"               ' because the laptop has no
>>>> serial port.
>>>>    SerPort1.DataBits = "8"
>>>>    SerPort1.Parity = "0"
>>>>    SerPort1.StopBits = "1"
>>>>    SerPort1.Open
>>>>
>>>>    TextArea1.Text = SerPort1.PortName & Chr$(10)
>>>> END
>>>>
>>>> PUBLIC SUB SerPort1_Read()
>>>>
>>>> ' A microprocessor is connected to the serial port and
>>>> ' continuously sends &h0d (CR) as long a push button is held down.
>>>>
>>>> DIM InByte AS Byte
>>>>
>>>>    READ #SerPort1, InByte
>>>>    TextArea1.Insert(Hex$(InByte) & " ")
>>>> ' The textarea displays a series of "A " (LF) instead of "D " (CR)
>>>> END
>>>>
>>>> PUBLIC SUB ExitBtn_Click()
>>>>
>>>>    SerPort1.Close
>>>>    QUIT
>>>> END
>>>>
>>>> PUBLIC SUB ClearBtn_Click()
>>>>
>>>>    TextArea1.Clear
>>>> END
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> This is a Linux thing. Not Gambas. The icrnl flaf is set as standard.
>>> Easiest way is to use stty to change it.
>>>
>>> SHELL "stty -F " & SerPort1.PortName & " -icrnl"
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>> I'm not a serial port user at all, and I find that behaviour a bit strange.
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> Me too.
>
> I have build serial support for about 10 different hardware devices in 
> my Gambas project both binary and ASCII and didn't stumble upon this 
> strange behavior (yet?)
>   
Could it be that some other process is using the port (getty, mgetty)? 
And that that process programs the serial driver? Because those stty 
things should be related, I think, to terminal devices, not general 
serial drivers as used by pppd, for example.

Just put this way - I really don't know.
Regards,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From mohareve at ...626...  Tue Dec  8 20:19:17 2009
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:19:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to close a modal dialog form?
In-Reply-To: <4B1E86E9.5040205@...1909...>
References: <cf2b66e0912080840r7bea5159icdd4fcd61cacc071@...627...>
	<4B1E86E9.5040205@...1909...>
Message-ID: <cf2b66e0912081119q3977de65r991530058201266d@...627...>

Solved!

PUBLIC SUB Messenger(naslov AS String, tekst AS String, slika AS String)
DIM imge AS PictureBox
DIM conti AS TextLabel
DIM butty AS Button
DIM i AS Integer
keret = NEW Form
keret.Width = 500
keret.Height = 300
keret.Title = naslov
imge = NEW PictureBox(keret)
imge.x = 0
imge.y = 0
imge.Width = 280
imge.Height = 280
imge.Border = TRUE
imge.Picture = Picture[slika]
conti = NEW TextLabel(keret)
conti.x = 300
conti.y = 20
conti.Width = 190
conti.Height = 230
conti.Text = tekst
butty = NEW Button(keret)
butty.x = 340
butty.y = 250
butty.Width = 120
butty.Height = 25
butty.Text = MessageYes.Text
keret.Center
Object.Attach(butty, ME, "Ops")
keret.ShowModal()

END

PUBLIC SUB Ops_Click()
keret.Close()
END


From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec  8 21:45:15 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:45:15 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...>
	<4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...><c811bd7b0912080416u416be72ftc598551ce726a359@...627...>
	<4B1E5E73.3080804@...2337...>
Message-ID: <A8CFF9B7B0DF431E8936F0D3A7F746FF@...2330...>

Les Hardy wrote:
> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> I first have to figure out if icrnl flaf is a typo or an esoteric
> command line :)
>> 
> Yes, esoteric, makes me feel special. Only a few know about flafs.

lol

> Then again, it could just be flag.

Nah. That'd ruin the whole effect.



From euph1 at ...734...  Tue Dec  8 21:55:18 2009
From: euph1 at ...734... (Mike)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:55:18 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...> <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
	<200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1EBD36.4060600@...734...>


   Beno?t Minisini wrote:
   <snip>

This is a Linux thing. Not Gambas. The icrnl flaf is set as standard.
Easiest way is to use stty to change it.

SHELL "stty -F " & SerPort1.PortName & " -icrnl"

    

I'm not a serial port user at all, and I find that behaviour a bit strange.

Would it be useful to make a property for that? Or maybe it does already exist 
in the SerialPort class, and I didn't see it.

  

   If not property setting then at least a reference in the docs to the stty
   thing would have been very helpful.


From ronstk at ...239...  Wed Dec  9 00:39:47 2009
From: ronstk at ...239... (Ron_1st)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:39:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <A8CFF9B7B0DF431E8936F0D3A7F746FF@...2330...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...> <4B1E5E73.3080804@...2337...>
	<A8CFF9B7B0DF431E8936F0D3A7F746FF@...2330...>
Message-ID: <200912090039.47843.ronstk@...239...>

On Tuesday 08 December 2009, nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... wrote:
> Les Hardy wrote:
> > Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> > I first have to figure out if icrnl flaf is a typo or an esoteric
> > command line :)
> >> 
> > Yes, esoteric, makes me feel special. Only a few know about flafs.
> 
> lol
> 
> > Then again, it could just be flag.
> 
> Nah. That'd ruin the whole effect.
> 

LOL

read:
http://forums.realsoftware.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26026

near the end
NO GAMBAS code
----------- 
  dim portname as New String
  portname = "/dev/ttyUSB0"

  #if targetLinux
    dim sh as New Shell
    sh.Execute "stty -F "+ portname +" -icrnl"
  
    while sh.IsRunning
      app.doevents
    wend
  #endif

  dim sp as New SerialPort
  sp.SerialPort = System.SerialPort(portname)
  sp.open

Answer by v-man:
   Post subject: Re: Serial Port on Linux / USB adapters / CR LF issues
   PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:59 am 
   Location: Rheinbach, Germany  
    Wow, thank you for your solution. It works. I cant believe that after years 
    living with this bug someone find a workaround. Great Job.

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Best regards,

Ron_1st

-- 




From rterry at ...1946...  Wed Dec  9 05:04:50 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:04:50 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Libtool problem
Message-ID: <200912091504.50656.rterry@...1946...>

libtool: Version mismatch error.  This is libtool 2.2.6, but the
libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.2.6b.
libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.6

I can no longer compile, any ideas how do fix this as suggested appreciated.

Regards

Richard




From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  9 05:16:43 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:16:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Libtool problem
In-Reply-To: <200912091504.50656.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912091504.50656.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <200912090516.43362.gambas@...1...>

> libtool: Version mismatch error.  This is libtool 2.2.6, but the
> libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.2.6b.
> libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.6
> 
> I can no longer compile, any ideas how do fix this as suggested
>  appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Richard
> 

I think you have the solution in a previous post:

run "libtoolize --copy --force" on the root of the gambas source directory, 
and do a ./reconf and a recompilation again.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From robert1juhasz at ...626...  Wed Dec  9 12:26:53 2009
From: robert1juhasz at ...626... (yuhej)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:26:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] serial port
In-Reply-To: <68652a0b0909192320s5ac22c22h20d819dd2822ab9@...627...>
References: <25518421.post@...1379...>
	<20090919163437.M15768@...951...>
	<68652a0b0909192320s5ac22c22h20d819dd2822ab9@...627...>
Message-ID: <26708752.post@...1379...>


Hello,

I'm very happy with the serial port communication, just I have some more
question.

When I start the application, I don't know what ports will be used and how
many.
So I have an object array where I add new serial ports depending on the
hardware configuration.

>From this object array, I'm able to send and receive data. I just don't know
how to access to the serial port events (read). Can someone help me in this
matter?

Thanks,
Robi


yuhej wrote:
> 
> Useful info, I'll do like that.
> Thanks, Robi
> 
> 2009/9/19 nando <nando_f at ...951...>
> 
>> In my Linux serial port experience, serial port devices are named:
>>
>> /dev/ttyS0..9 and upwards
>> /dev/ttyUSB0..9 and upwards depending on what is plugged in USB.
>>
>> I have done a lot of serial port stuff with Gambas.
>>
>> I know that trying to open then with the serial port control
>> will fail is non-exising port. This error can be detected.
>>
>> It can be possible to open a port as a test to see if it exists, but you
>> may be changing parameters and stealing chars from an existing
>> connection.
>> I've had this happen too....really messes things up.
>>
>> -Fernando
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original Message -----------
>> From: yuhej <robert1juhasz at ...626...>
>> To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Sent: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:08:04 -0700 (PDT)
>> Subject: [Gambas-user]  serial port
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I can see that Gambas can handle the serial ports which is a very good
>> news
>> > for me.
>> > Can someone tell me how can I get the list of the serial ports of my
>> > computer? I wish to make an autodetect function and only allow to
>> select
>> > from the working serial ports.
>> >
>> > Robi
>> > --
>> > View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/serial-port-tp25518421p25518421.html
>> > Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>
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From les at ...2337...  Wed Dec  9 10:55:22 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:55:22 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...> <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
	<200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1F740A.3080906@...2337...>

Beno?t Minisini wrote:

> 
> I'm not a serial port user at all, and I find that behaviour a bit strange.
> 
> Would it be useful to make a property for that? Or maybe it does already exist 
> in the SerialPort class, and I didn't see it.
> 

Nothing strange really. Its been like that as long as I can remember.
It is not possible to tranfer binary data correctly without setting the
icrnl and ocrnl flags off.

Its been a long time since I was near C, but I'm fairly sure they are
included in termios.h, and are the c_iflag and c_oflag.

(sent this twice. mail is bouncing back)










From les at ...2337...  Wed Dec  9 10:24:27 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:24:27 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Serial port data being changed ????
In-Reply-To: <200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B1D6813.1000408@...734...> <4B1E2BD4.4060402@...2337...>
	<200912081903.38588.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B1F6CCB.1010708@...2337...>

Beno?t Minisini wrote:

> 
> I'm not a serial port user at all, and I find that behaviour a bit strange.
> 
> Would it be useful to make a property for that? Or maybe it does already exist 
> in the SerialPort class, and I didn't see it.
> 

Nothing strange really. Its been like that as long as I can remember.
It is not possible to tranfer binary data correctly without setting the 
icrnl and ocrnl flags off.

Its been a long time since I was near C, but I'm fairly sure they are 
included in termios.h, and are the c_iflag and c_oflag.








From mohareve at ...626...  Wed Dec  9 14:15:42 2009
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:15:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
Message-ID: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>

I don't understand why is the handling of dynamically created forms so
complicated!
I've barely managed to shut a modal dialog, I'm encountering a new problem:

when I invoke the procedure Messenger:

PUBLIC SUB Messenger(tekst AS String, slika AS String)
DIM imge AS PictureBox
DIM conti AS TextLabel
DIM butty AS Button
DIM i AS Integer
keret = NEW Form
keret.Width = 500
keret.Height = 300
keret.Border = FALSE
imge = NEW PictureBox(keret)
imge.x = 10
imge.y = 10
imge.Width = 280
imge.Height = 280
imge.Border = TRUE
imge.Picture = Picture[slika]
conti = NEW TextLabel(keret)
conti.x = 300
conti.y = 20
conti.Width = 190
conti.Height = 230
conti.Text = tekst
butty = NEW Button(keret)
butty.x = 340
butty.y = 250
butty.Width = 120
butty.Height = 25
butty.Text = "OK"
keret.Center
Object.Attach(butty, ME, "Ops")
keret.ShowModal()
END

PUBLIC SUB Ops_Click()
keret.Close()
END

from within the
PUBLIC SUB _new()
...
Messenger("blabla.txt","blabla.jpg")
...
END

procedure,

I cannot communicate with the button "butty". This info window is the first
thing which is popping up, but either the program would just go just
straight ahead, not waiting for the button to be pushed (when I use only
keret.Show() instead), or I have a pop-up window which stops the program,
and stops its execution, since I cannot close / delete it.

A second question: how could I write documentation for Gambas2. It's still
desperately underdocumented, and some crucial things are missing (examples,
examples, examples)


From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Wed Dec  9 14:47:14 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:47:14 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
In-Reply-To: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912090547t6b6c535bw43a341b759497528@...627...>

2009/12/10 M. Cs. <mohareve at ...626...>:

butty = NEW Button(keret)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
butty.x = 340
butty.y = 250
butty.Width = 120
butty.Height = 25
butty.Text = "OK"
keret.Center
Object.Attach(butty, ME, "Ops")
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"butty" is already attached to "keret"

You should attach "keret" to ME, or:

butty = NEW Button(ME)

Of course, if you use the latter constructor, you have zero control
over where "butty" appears on ME.

Look at the attached code, and take note of the form design.
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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Wed Dec  9 14:56:55 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:56:55 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912090547t6b6c535bw43a341b759497528@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912090547t6b6c535bw43a341b759497528@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912090556p43a14c8yae8adc7aa2ec0034@...627...>

2009/12/10 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:

> Look at the attached code, and take note of the form design.

Scratch that. You may have found a bug, either inadvertently or advertantly ;->

With MyTextBox declared as public, xMyTextBox_Change isn't firing:

MyTextBox = NEW TextBox(HBox1) AS "xMyTextBox"

I'll start to research it in about 14-16hrs time. In the meantime,
hope for a better response.



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  9 17:43:49 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:43:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
In-Reply-To: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912091743.49370.gambas@...1...>

> I don't understand why is the handling of dynamically created forms so
> complicated!
> I've barely managed to shut a modal dialog, I'm encountering a new problem:
> 
> when I invoke the procedure Messenger:
> 
> PUBLIC SUB Messenger(tekst AS String, slika AS String)
> DIM imge AS PictureBox
> DIM conti AS TextLabel
> DIM butty AS Button
> DIM i AS Integer
> keret = NEW Form
> keret.Width = 500
> keret.Height = 300
> keret.Border = FALSE
> imge = NEW PictureBox(keret)
> imge.x = 10
> imge.y = 10
> imge.Width = 280
> imge.Height = 280
> imge.Border = TRUE
> imge.Picture = Picture[slika]
> conti = NEW TextLabel(keret)
> conti.x = 300
> conti.y = 20
> conti.Width = 190
> conti.Height = 230
> conti.Text = tekst
> butty = NEW Button(keret)
> butty.x = 340
> butty.y = 250
> butty.Width = 120
> butty.Height = 25
> butty.Text = "OK"
> keret.Center
> Object.Attach(butty, ME, "Ops")

You should write:
  butty = NEW Button(keret) AS "Ops"
to have the same effect.

You should use the Move() method instead of setting the X, Y, Width and Height 
properties individually.

> keret.ShowModal()
> END
> 
> PUBLIC SUB Ops_Click()
> keret.Close()
> END
> 
> from within the
> PUBLIC SUB _new()
> ...
> Messenger("blabla.txt","blabla.jpg")
> ...
> END
> 
> procedure,
> 
> I cannot communicate with the button "butty". 

What do you mean exactly by "communicate"? Can you provide the full source 
code in a project, we will better understand what you want to do.

Beware that an object is locked during its _new() so it cannot receive events.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From mohareve at ...626...  Wed Dec  9 18:21:46 2009
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:21:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
In-Reply-To: <200912091743.49370.gambas@...1...>
References: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
	<200912091743.49370.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <cf2b66e0912090921web10382r7bc322fcffb27ec5@...627...>

What do you mean exactly by "communicate"? Can you provide the full source
> code in a project, we will better understand what you want to do.
>
> Beware that an object is locked during its _new() so it cannot receive
> events.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
>
I mean, the procedure Ops_Click() is simply never invoked. A window shows
up, with an image, a text and a button - "butty". I intend to to use this
button for closing the window. The first occurance of the subroutine
Messenger is in the _new() procedure, which is intended to set the initial
settings for the program. At the time when this happens, no other forms are
already created. The code is pretty long ( 7000 lines, the *GamCat* project
on sourceforge, but I'm sending you the first part of it, the _new()
procedure:

PUBLIC SUB _new() '############# Initial settings
######################################################################
DIM q1, q2, xenon, path, nfile AS String
DIM place, node, temptxt, querry, prime, liner, x, mounter, onefound AS
String
DIM tarto, gomb, nexus, tremor, mark, mounthits, secondary AS String[]
DIM i, knor, l, m AS Integer
DIM fstab, config AS File
a1 = NEW String[]
a2 = NEW String[]
a3 = NEW String[]
a4 = NEW Float[]
a5 = NEW String[]
valvolume = NEW String[]
DVDPanel.Value = FALSE
'At start the Virtual Compilation is empty and features are disabled
tippi.Add(tippiData.Text)
tippi.Add(tippiAudio.Text)
rating.Add("-")
ratingPic.Picture = Picture["unrated.png"]
year1.Value = Year(Now)
month1.Value = Month(Now)
day1.value = Day(Now)
year2.MinValue = year1.Value
mtype.Add("700 MB")
mtype.Add("4.4 GB")
mtype.Add("8.0 GB")
mediaImg.Picture = Picture["CD.png"]
Saver.compilatSi = 700
IF Exist(User.Home & "/.GamCat") = FALSE THEN
MKDIR User.Home & "/.GamCat"
'First run screen for the devices

mark = NEW String[]
config = OPEN User.Home & "/.GamCat/config.txt" FOR CREATE
CLOSE (config)
*Messenger(firstrun.Text, "cat1.png")*


config = OPEN User.Home & "/.GamCat/config.txt" FOR WRITE
fstab = OPEN "/etc/mtab" FOR INPUT
WHILE NOT Eof(fstab)
LINE INPUT #fstab, place
mounthits = Split(place, " ")
IF (InStr(mounthits[1], "/media/") > 0 AND InStr(mounthits[2], "vfat") = 0)
THEN

node = InputBox(dev1.Text & mounthits[0], dev2.Text, "")
PRINT #config, mounthits[0]
mark.Add(node)
ENDIF

WEND
CLOSE (fstab)
CLOSE (config)

IF mark.Count = 0 THEN
Message(Fatal.Text)
node = "rm -rf " & Chr$(34) & User.Home & "/.GamCat" & Chr$(34)
SHELL node WAIT
QUIT
ENDIF

IF mark.Count = 1 THEN
mark.Add("second")
ENDIF




'Database creation
DBconX.Type = "sqlite"
DBconX.Host = User.Home & "/.GamCat"
TRY DBconX.Open()

IF ERROR THEN
Message(SetupError.Text)
node = "rm -rf " & Chr$(34) & User.Home & "/.GamCat" & Chr$(34)
SHELL node WAIT
QUIT
ELSE
IF NOT DBconX.Databases.Exist("GamCat") THEN
DBconX.Databases.Add("GamCat")
WAIT 0.5 'apperently this is needed for an SQLite database
' Close the server connection
DBconX.Close()
ENDIF
ENDIF

DBconX.Name = "GamCat"
DBconX.Type = "sqlite"
DBconX.Host = User.Home & "/.GamCat"
TRY DBconX.Open()
prime = "CREATE TABLE zzz(content VARCHAR(30),size REAL,files
INTEGER,folders INTEGER,timing TEXT,media TEXT)"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
WAIT 0.1
prime = "CREATE TABLE infos(size REAL,files INTEGER,folders INTEGER,nn
TEXT,first TEXT,second TEXT,delay TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
q1 = Chr$(34) & "0" & Chr$(34)
q2 = Chr$(34) & "1" & Chr$(34)
prime = "INSERT INTO infos VALUES(0,0,0" & "," & q2 & ",'" & mark[0] & "','"
& mark[1] & "','20');"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE ZIP(Name TEXT,Volume TEXT,Parent TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE TAR(Name TEXT,Volume TEXT,Parent TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE RAR(Name TEXT,Volume TEXT,Parent TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE ARJ(Name TEXT,Volume TEXT,Parent TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE ACE(Name TEXT,Volume TEXT,Parent TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE AVAILABLEMYDISKLIST(Volume VARCHAR(30),Rating
TEXT,Genre TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE LENTMYDISKROMLIST(Volume VARCHAR(30),Used TEXT,Rating
TEXT,Genre TEXT,Time TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE AVAILABLEMYDVDLIST(Volume VARCHAR(30),Rating
TEXT,Genre TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE LENTMYDISKDVDLIST(Volume VARCHAR(30),Used TEXT,Rating
TEXT,Genre TEXT,Time TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE LISTOFMYCUSTOMERS(Name TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE LISTOFMYALLGENRES(Name TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE TEMPORALBASKETOFELEMENTS(Name TEXT,Origin TEXT,Rating
TEXT,Genre TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE LISTOFBANNEDFILES(Name TEXT);"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE CHANGEDFILENAMECATALOG(Old Text(30),Volume
Text(30),Path Text(30),NEW Text(30));"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
prime = "CREATE TABLE VOLUMENOTESFORALL(Volume Text(30),Notes Text(300));"
DBconX.Exec(prime)
WAIT 0.5

DBconX.Close()

i = Message.Question(MessageImport.Text, MessageYes.Text, MessageNo.Text)
IF i = 1 THEN
Dialog.Path = User.Home
Dialog.Filter = ["*.zip", "Zip Archive"]
IF Dialog.OpenFile(TRUE) THEN RETURN
FOR EACH nfile IN Dialog.Paths
path = nfile
NEXT
nfile = "unzip -o " & Chr$(34) & path & Chr$(34) & " -d " & Chr$(34) &
User.Home & "/.GamCat/" & Chr$(34)
SHELL nfile WAIT
ELSE

ENDIF
ENDIF

szelekt = NEW Integer[]
dvdmount.Hide()
cdmount.Hide()
ejectCD.Hide()
ejectDVD.Hide()
eszkoz = NEW String[]
tarto = NEW String[]
gomb = NEW String[]
cim = NEW String[]
mark = NEW String[]
selIndex = NEW Integer[]
unselIndex = NEW Integer[]
fstab = OPEN User.Home & "/.GamCat/config.txt" FOR INPUT
WHILE NOT Eof(fstab)
LINE INPUT #fstab, liner
IF InStr(liner, "#delay") > 0 THEN
Frame33.Visible = FALSE
hideDelay.Visible = FALSE
ELSE
eszkoz.Add(liner)
gomb.Add(liner)
cim.Add(liner)
ENDIF
WEND
CLOSE (fstab)

DBconX.Name = "GamCat"
DBconX.Type = "sqlite"
DBconX.Host = User.Home & "/.GamCat"
TRY DBconX.Open()
querry = "SELECT first,second,delay FROM infos;"
tablak = DBconX.Exec(querry)
FOR EACH tablak
dvdmount.Text = tablak!"first"
cdmount.Text = tablak!"second"
Saver.delay = CInt(tablak!"delay")
NEXT
Slider1.Value = Saver.delay





DBconX.Close()

IF gomb.Count = 1 THEN
n1 = Mid$(gomb[0], 6)
dvdmount.Show()
ejectDVD.Show()
ENDIF

IF gomb.Count = 2 THEN
n1 = Mid$(gomb[0], 6)
dvdmount.Show()
n2 = Mid$(gomb[1], 6)
cdmount.Show()
'masodik = cim[1]
ejectDVD.Show()
ejectCD.Show()
ENDIF
eszkoz.Clear()
tarto.Clear()




elolap = TRUE
Xval = FALSE
arjCB.Value = TRUE
zipCB.Value = TRUE
rarCB.Value = TRUE
tarCB.Value = TRUE
aceCB.Value = TRUE
muubi.Enabled = TRUE
scArch.Enabled = TRUE
volumePB.Value = 0
archPB.Value = 0
catTree.Clear()
fView.Clear()
gV.Columns.Count = 5
gV.Columns[0].Width = 300
gV.Columns[1].Width = 125
gv.Columns[2].Width = 200
gv.Columns[3].Width = 80
gV.Rows.Count = 0

gV.Columns[0].Title = gVI.Text
gV.Columns[1].Title = gVII.Text
gV.Columns[2].Title = gVIII.Text
gV.Columns[3].Title = gVIV.Text
gV.Columns[4].Title = gVV.Text
list.Rows.Count = 0
list.Columns.Count = 1
list.Columns[0].Title = listI.Text
fileRB.Value = TRUE
anyRB.Value = TRUE
ejectCD.Value = TRUE
ejectDVD.Value = TRUE

'Virtual Compilation tab
ViCo.Columns.Count = 3
ViCo.Rows.Count = 0
ViCo.Header = TRUE
ViCo.Columns[0].Width = 200
ViCo.Columns[1].Width = 150
' ViCo.Columns[2].Width = 300
ViCo.Columns[0].Title = gVI.Text
ViCo.Columns[1].Title = ViP.Text
ViCo.Columns[2].Title = gVIII.Text
SizeBar.Value = 0

infoView.Columns.Count = 2
infoView.Rows.Count = 6
infoView.Columns[0].Width = 90
infoView[0, 0].Text = lfs.Text
infoView[1, 0].Text = lmf.Text
infoView[2, 0].Text = mkl.Text
infoView[3, 0].Text = mpl.Text
infoView[4, 0].Text = ehy.Text
infoView[5, 0].Text = addedOn.Text

driveView.Columns.Count = 2
driveView.Rows.Count = 5
driveView.Columns[0].Width = 150
driveView.Columns[1].Width = 80
driveView[0, 0].Text = las.Text
driveView[1, 0].Text = Label4.Text
driveView[2, 0].Text = Label5.Text
driveView[3, 0].Text = Label6.Text
driveView[4, 0].Text = Label7.Text
sourMedDrive.Index = 0
FMain.Center
Vdata()
'Populate the Catalog tree

Populate()
catTree.MoveFirst()
IF catTree.Current.Count > 0 THEN
ures = FALSE
ELSE
ures = TRUE
ENDIF

querry = "SELECT content FROM zzz;"
tablak = DBconX.Exec(querry)
FOR EACH tablak
nuvola += 1
NEXT
CDcount.Text = nuvola
catBox.Add(MessageALL.Text)
prime = "SELECT * FROM LISTOFMYALLGENRES;"
tablak = DBconX.Exec(prime)

FOR EACH tablak

x = Replace$(tablak!"Name", "_", " ")
x = Replace$(x, "$", ".")
x = Replace$(x, "?", "-")
catBox.Add(x)
NEXT
l = catBox.Find(MessageALL.Text)
catBox.Index = l
END


From mohareve at ...626...  Wed Dec  9 19:40:50 2009
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:40:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
In-Reply-To: <cf2b66e0912090921web10382r7bc322fcffb27ec5@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
	<200912091743.49370.gambas@...1...>
	<cf2b66e0912090921web10382r7bc322fcffb27ec5@...627...>
Message-ID: <cf2b66e0912091040x34e418cp851a0746d3f3e910@...627...>

So how to stop the rest of the process, while the Messenger( , ) is being
executed? I've tried to experimenting with WAIT, but no help.
This is the most annoying thing in Gambas. You never know exactly what to do
in order to make things work. Is there a possibility, to make the process
handling unified? ( What's the difference between Object.Attach (something,
parent, function name) and your proposal ?)
Anyway, butty = NEW Button(keret) AS "Ops" doesn't work.


From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  9 20:01:02 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:01:02 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
In-Reply-To: <cf2b66e0912091040x34e418cp851a0746d3f3e910@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
	<cf2b66e0912090921web10382r7bc322fcffb27ec5@...627...>
	<cf2b66e0912091040x34e418cp851a0746d3f3e910@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912092001.03062.gambas@...1...>

> So how to stop the rest of the process, while the Messenger( , ) is being
> executed? I've tried to experimenting with WAIT, but no help.
> This is the most annoying thing in Gambas. You never know exactly what to
>  do in order to make things work. Is there a possibility, to make the
>  process handling unified? ( What's the difference between Object.Attach
>  (something, parent, function name) and your proposal ?)
> Anyway, butty = NEW Button(keret) AS "Ops" doesn't work.

Please again provide an archive of your full project, otherwise I can't help 
you. I have downloaded your source from sourceforge, but I didn't see anything 
related to your problem.

If the source project is greater then 256K, it won't go on the mailing-list. 
So send it me directly.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  9 20:16:06 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:16:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing a Gambas program independent of the
	distribution through DIR GB
In-Reply-To: <1260206213.3622.7.camel@...651...>
References: <1260206213.3622.7.camel@...651...>
Message-ID: <200912092016.06295.gambas@...1...>

> Hello Benoit.
> 
>  I'm trying to run Gambas on a computer that does not have the component
> packages, based on the help that you gave the user JGuardon, which
> wanted to run Gambas on a USB stick.
>  In one of the points of support, type:
> 
>  2)copy the installation directory Gambas in another folder. Let's name
> it "/my/Gambas/dir".
> 
> Question:
> 
> What installation directory is copied?. Those who are in usr/local/bin,
> usr/local/lib, usr/local/share?, Or the program directory is being
> created.

You must recreate the all hierarchy. For example, if the Gambas installation 
directory is /usr/local, you must copy in your directory all Gambas related 
files, following the same hierarchy:

bin/gb*
bin/gambas
lib/gambas2/*
share/gambas2/*
...


> 
>  At another point he said:
> 
> 3) Create a script like that:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/my/ld/dir:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> export GB_DIR=/my/gambas/dir
> exec /my/application.gambas
> 
> Question:
> 
> This script, which must be saved to be executed?.

Of course. Otherwise you won't be able to run it!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Wed Dec  9 21:47:33 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:47:33 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
In-Reply-To: <200912091743.49370.gambas@...1...>
References: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
	<200912091743.49370.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912091247h26d5d8dctfeddcb671c8ad547@...627...>

2009/12/10 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:

> You should write:
> ?butty = NEW Button(keret) AS "Ops"
> to have the same effect.

That's what I thought, but when I tried a similar thing with a
TextBox, it appeared that the TextBox events were not firing. I'll
take another look at it later this afternoon just in case I made a
mistake. If it's a problem I'll post the code.



From rterry at ...1946...  Wed Dec  9 22:36:55 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:36:55 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] qt4 slowness of drawing complex screens
Message-ID: <200912100836.55519.rterry@...1946...>

I've noticed qt4 is much slower rendering the controls than qt3 and wondered 
if it is possible to 'hide' this process till the rendering is complete.

Users with small numbers of controls on a form probably wouldn't notice this.

Regards

Richard



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Dec  9 22:52:05 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:52:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] qt4 slowness of drawing complex screens
In-Reply-To: <200912100836.55519.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912100836.55519.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912091352u6d2562a6ke03f2aeff20d1a72@...627...>

i've not noticed that on the ide ... it have many controls too...

2009/12/9 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
> I've noticed qt4 is much slower rendering the controls than qt3 and wondered
> if it is possible to 'hide' this process till the rendering is complete.
>
> Users with small numbers of controls on a form probably wouldn't notice this.
>
> Regards
>
> Richard
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec  9 22:59:57 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:59:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] qt4 slowness of drawing complex screens
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912091352u6d2562a6ke03f2aeff20d1a72@...627...>
References: <200912100836.55519.rterry@...1946...>
	<6324a42a0912091352u6d2562a6ke03f2aeff20d1a72@...627...>
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> i've not noticed that on the ide ... it have many controls too...
> 
> 2009/12/9 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
> > I've noticed qt4 is much slower rendering the controls than qt3 and
> > wondered if it is possible to 'hide' this process till the rendering is
> > complete.
> >
> > Users with small numbers of controls on a form probably wouldn't notice
> > this.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Richard
> >

Qt 4 is a lot slower in drawing widgets than Qt 3. Not as slow as GTK+, but 
this is noticeable in the IDE.

The really slow thing is splitters and SidePanel control. Do you use them? If 
not, I can't tell you more without having more details.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From rterry at ...1946...  Wed Dec  9 23:01:18 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:01:18 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] qt4 Font question
Message-ID: <200912100901.18742.rterry@...1946...>

more questions about qt4.

Font sizes seem different to qt3, this may be KDE and nothing to do with qt4, 
but dosn't happen like this in qt3.

When I use a font dialog Arial size 9 is too small for my app. If I go to 10, 
then it is too large. 

Under QT3 this dosn't seem to be the same. I enclose a picture - same 
font/point size the first is from the font dialog in qt3 and the second in qt4

The difference seems only to be 1 pixel but this seems to have a big effect on 
the overall screen - at 9 hard to read, at 10 looks too large.

regards

Richard
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From rterry at ...1946...  Wed Dec  9 23:52:37 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:52:37 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] qt4 slowness of drawing complex screens
In-Reply-To: <200912092259.57861.gambas@...1...>
References: <200912100836.55519.rterry@...1946...>
	<6324a42a0912091352u6d2562a6ke03f2aeff20d1a72@...627...>
	<200912092259.57861.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912100952.37225.rterry@...1946...>

On Thursday 10 December 2009 08:59:57 Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > i've not noticed that on the ide ... it have many controls too...
> >
> > 2009/12/9 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
> > > I've noticed qt4 is much slower rendering the controls than qt3 and
> > > wondered if it is possible to 'hide' this process till the rendering is
> > > complete.
> > >
> > > Users with small numbers of controls on a form probably wouldn't notice
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Richard
> 
> Qt 4 is a lot slower in drawing widgets than Qt 3. Not as slow as GTK+, but
> this is noticeable in the IDE.
> 
> The really slow thing is splitters and SidePanel control. Do you use them?
>  If not, I can't tell you more without having more details.
> 
> Regards,
> 
extensive use of spitters, some side-panels. Can one somehow visually lock the 
form whilst it is rendering and then unlock to show the resultant gui?

Regards

Richard



From 12ukwn at ...626...  Wed Dec  9 23:58:19 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:58:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] qt4 Font question
In-Reply-To: <200912100901.18742.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912100901.18742.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <4B202B8B.80006@...626...>

richard terry a ?crit :
> more questions about qt4.
> 
> Font sizes seem different to qt3, this may be KDE and nothing to do with qt4, 
> but dosn't happen like this in qt3.
> 
> When I use a font dialog Arial size 9 is too small for my app. If I go to 10, 
> then it is too large. 
> 
> Under QT3 this dosn't seem to be the same. I enclose a picture - same 
> font/point size the first is from the font dialog in qt3 and the second in qt4
> 
> The difference seems only to be 1 pixel but this seems to have a big effect on 
> the overall screen - at 9 hard to read, at 10 looks too large.

Hi Richard, may be you should take a look @ qtconfig-qt3|4 
this looks like a replacement font that is not (or not the same) in one 
of the Qts

-- 



From prog at ...2177...  Thu Dec 10 03:59:19 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:59:19 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing a Gambas program independent of the
 distribution through DIR GB
In-Reply-To: <200912092016.06295.gambas@...1...>
References: <1260206213.3622.7.camel@...651...>
	<200912092016.06295.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1260413959.3629.0.camel@...651...>

Thank you very much, for your answer,Benoit.

Regards
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Installing a Gambas program independent of the
distribution through DIR GB
Fecha: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:16:06 +0100


> Hello Benoit.
> 
>  I'm trying to run Gambas on a computer that does not have the component
> packages, based on the help that you gave the user JGuardon, which
> wanted to run Gambas on a USB stick.
>  In one of the points of support, type:
> 
>  2)copy the installation directory Gambas in another folder. Let's name
> it "/my/Gambas/dir".
> 
> Question:
> 
> What installation directory is copied?. Those who are in usr/local/bin,
> usr/local/lib, usr/local/share?, Or the program directory is being
> created.

You must recreate the all hierarchy. For example, if the Gambas installation 
directory is /usr/local, you must copy in your directory all Gambas related 
files, following the same hierarchy:

bin/gb*
bin/gambas
lib/gambas2/*
share/gambas2/*
...


> 
>  At another point he said:
> 
> 3) Create a script like that:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/my/ld/dir:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> export GB_DIR=/my/gambas/dir
> exec /my/application.gambas
> 
> Question:
> 
> This script, which must be saved to be executed?.

Of course. Otherwise you won't be able to run it!

Regards,



From ajw4me at ...466...  Thu Dec 10 04:19:37 2009
From: ajw4me at ...466... (Tony)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:19:37 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] serial port
In-Reply-To: <26708752.post@...1379...>
References: <25518421.post@...1379...>	<20090919163437.M15768@...951...>	<68652a0b0909192320s5ac22c22h20d819dd2822ab9@...627...>
	<26708752.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <4B2068C9.7020106@...466...>


   yuhej wrote:

Hello,

I'm very happy with the serial port communication, just I have some more
question.

When I start the application, I don't know what ports will be used and how
many.
So I have an object array where I add new serial ports depending on the
hardware configuration.

>From this object array, I'm able to send and receive data. I just don't know
how to access to the serial port events (read). Can someone help me in this
matter?

Thanks,
Robi


yuhej wrote:
  

Useful info, I'll do like that.
Thanks, Robi

2009/9/19 nando [1]<nando_f at ...951...>



In my Linux serial port experience, serial port devices are named:

/dev/ttyS0..9 and upwards
/dev/ttyUSB0..9 and upwards depending on what is plugged in USB.

I have done a lot of serial port stuff with Gambas.

I know that trying to open then with the serial port control
will fail is non-exising port. This error can be detected.

It can be possible to open a port as a test to see if it exists, but you
may be changing parameters and stealing chars from an existing
connection.
I've had this happen too....really messes things up.

-Fernando


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To: [3]gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:08:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  serial port



Hello,

I can see that Gambas can handle the serial ports which is a very good


news


for me.
Can someone tell me how can I get the list of the serial ports of my
computer? I wish to make an autodetect function and only allow to


select


from the working serial ports.

Robi
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   Hi,
   I'm not sure what your exact requirement is, but if it is persistent naming
   of a hotplug usb to serial adapter then this can be achieved thru udev. I
   have an Aten usb to serial adapter which when plugged may take ttyUSB0 to
   ttyUSB4 depending on what else e.g. wireless modem etc. is plugged in. You
   can create your own udev rule so that when the Aten adapter is plugged a
   symbolic link is created to the appropriate tty. In my case /dev/ttyATEN0 ->
   /dev/ttyUSB0-4.  The  adapter  can  then  be  addressed from Gambas as
   /dev/ttyATEN0.
   [14]http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
   Hope this helps,
   Tony.

References

   1. mailto:nando_f at ...951...
   2. mailto:robert1juhasz at ...626...
   3. mailto:gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
   4. http://www.nabble.com/serial-port-tp25518421p25518421.html
   5. http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
   6. mailto:Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
   7. https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
   8. http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
   9. mailto:Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
  10. https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
  11. http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
  12. mailto:Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
  13. https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
  14. http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html


From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Thu Dec 10 06:18:59 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:18:59 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912091247h26d5d8dctfeddcb671c8ad547@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
	<200912091743.49370.gambas@...1...>
	<c811bd7b0912091247h26d5d8dctfeddcb671c8ad547@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912092118g3b104ad5y32925446f38d185d@...627...>

2009/12/10 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
> 2009/12/10 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>
>> You should write:
>> ?butty = NEW Button(keret) AS "Ops"
>> to have the same effect.
>
> That's what I thought, but when I tried a similar thing with a
> TextBox, it appeared that the TextBox events were not firing. I'll
> take another look at it later this afternoon just in case I made a
> mistake. If it's a problem I'll post the code.

Yep. I made a mistake. I was editing the wrong TextBox.

Sheesh.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Thu Dec 10 06:19:04 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:19:04 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Buttons again not working
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912091247h26d5d8dctfeddcb671c8ad547@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912090515i66c1ad92wf9278a412dc8a574@...627...>
	<200912091743.49370.gambas@...1...>
	<c811bd7b0912091247h26d5d8dctfeddcb671c8ad547@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912092119i1ddbd760r94e5716b08801006@...627...>

2009/12/10 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
> 2009/12/10 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>
>> You should write:
>> ?butty = NEW Button(keret) AS "Ops"
>> to have the same effect.
>
> That's what I thought, but when I tried a similar thing with a
> TextBox, it appeared that the TextBox events were not firing. I'll
> take another look at it later this afternoon just in case I made a
> mistake. If it's a problem I'll post the code.

Yep. I made a mistake. I was editing the wrong TextBox.

Sheesh.



From norarg at ...2311...  Thu Dec 10 16:37:25 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:37:25 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cliboard-Problem
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP9219D5F7DBCBCDCDF8AB70F98D0@...693...>

Hi,

I have a problem with the clipboard,
using ubuntu 9.10, gambas 2.13

following code works ONE time:

PUBLIC SUB CLIP_B_Click()
  DIM S AS String
  DIM I AS Integer
  DIM TR AS Result
  TR = M.ReadRecord(OPVDM!tabelle, OPVDM!TBID, OPVDM!TBIDWert)
  IF TR.Count = 0 THEN
    Message.Info("Daten nicht gefunden", "Ok")
    RETURN
  ENDIF
  Clipboard.Clear
  S = "Datenausgabe " & OPVDM!betreff & CRLF
  S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
  S = S & Left("Feld" & String(25, " "), 25) & Left("Wert" & String(40, 
" "), 40) & "Datentyp" & CRLF
  S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
  OPVDF.MoveFirst
  TR.MoveFirst
  FOR I = 1 TO OPVDF.Count
    S = S & Left(OPVDF!feldbezeichnung & String(25, " "), 25)
    S = S & Left(TR[OPVDF!feldname] & String(50, " "), 40)
    S = S & OPVDF!feldtyp & CRLF
    OPVDF.MoveNext
  NEXT 
  S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
  Clipboard.Copy(S)
END

I am sure there is no data-problem, the print of S is ok.
The second time I call this procedure, I get a message in the direct-window:

*QClipboard: cannot transfer data, no data available
*
I hope someone can help me with this. Oh, I also tried the following, to 
get sure nothing is wrong with the string (removed all data):

PUBLIC SUB CLIP_B_Click()
  DIM S AS String
  Clipboard.Clear
  S = "Datenausgabe " & CRLF
  S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
  S = S & Left("Feld" & String(25, " "), 25) & Left("Wert" & String(40, 
" "), 40) & "Datentyp" & CRLF
  S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
  S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
  Clipboard.Copy(S)
END

CRLF ist just CHR(10)

Same error.

Thanks in advance


*
*


From ron at ...1740...  Thu Dec 10 16:50:13 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:50:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Workspace and object .Visible property
Message-ID: <4B2118B5.6030607@...1740...>



If you have an object on a tab of a workspace (for example a tableview 
object), and this tab is not selected (ie hidden behind the currently 
selected one), The tableviews .Visible property returns TRUE, why?

Gambas 2.18.0
gb.qt

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From les at ...2337...  Thu Dec 10 16:57:32 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:57:32 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cliboard-Problem
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP9219D5F7DBCBCDCDF8AB70F98D0@...693...>
References: <BLU0-SMTP9219D5F7DBCBCDCDF8AB70F98D0@...693...>
Message-ID: <4B211A6C.7080602@...2337...>

Norarg wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem with the clipboard,
> using ubuntu 9.10, gambas 2.13
> 
> following code works ONE time:
> 
> PUBLIC SUB CLIP_B_Click()
>   DIM S AS String
>   DIM I AS Integer
>   DIM TR AS Result
>   TR = M.ReadRecord(OPVDM!tabelle, OPVDM!TBID, OPVDM!TBIDWert)
>   IF TR.Count = 0 THEN
>     Message.Info("Daten nicht gefunden", "Ok")
>     RETURN
>   ENDIF
>   Clipboard.Clear
>   S = "Datenausgabe " & OPVDM!betreff & CRLF
>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>   S = S & Left("Feld" & String(25, " "), 25) & Left("Wert" & String(40, 
> " "), 40) & "Datentyp" & CRLF
>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>   OPVDF.MoveFirst
>   TR.MoveFirst
>   FOR I = 1 TO OPVDF.Count
>     S = S & Left(OPVDF!feldbezeichnung & String(25, " "), 25)
>     S = S & Left(TR[OPVDF!feldname] & String(50, " "), 40)
>     S = S & OPVDF!feldtyp & CRLF
>     OPVDF.MoveNext
>   NEXT 
>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>   Clipboard.Copy(S)
> END
> 
> I am sure there is no data-problem, the print of S is ok.
> The second time I call this procedure, I get a message in the direct-window:
> 
> *QClipboard: cannot transfer data, no data available
> *
> I hope someone can help me with this. Oh, I also tried the following, to 
> get sure nothing is wrong with the string (removed all data):
> 
> PUBLIC SUB CLIP_B_Click()
>   DIM S AS String
>   Clipboard.Clear
>   S = "Datenausgabe " & CRLF
>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>   S = S & Left("Feld" & String(25, " "), 25) & Left("Wert" & String(40, 
> " "), 40) & "Datentyp" & CRLF
>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>   Clipboard.Copy(S)
> END
> 
> CRLF ist just CHR(10)
> 
> Same error.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 

Just put a WAIT after Clipboard.Clear and it will be ok.

Clipboard.Clear
WAIT


Regards
Les Hardy




From ubuntu at ...2332...  Thu Dec 10 19:34:20 2009
From: ubuntu at ...2332... (D. L. Fox)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:34:20 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Workspace and object .Visible property
In-Reply-To: <4B2118B5.6030607@...1740...>
References: <4B2118B5.6030607@...1740...>
Message-ID: <4B213F2C.2090302@...2332...>

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Technically, the component itself is still visible. You just can't see 
it because the tab to which it belongs is hidden.

If you need to know its visibility in that scenario, I guess you will 
have to check to see if its tab is the currently selected tab.

Ron wrote:
> 
> If you have an object on a tab of a workspace (for example a tableview 
> object), and this tab is not selected (ie hidden behind the currently 
> selected one), The tableviews .Visible property returns TRUE, why?
> 
> Gambas 2.18.0
> gb.qt
> 
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd.
> 
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From norarg at ...2311...  Thu Dec 10 19:42:04 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:42:04 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cliboard-Problem - Solved
In-Reply-To: <4B211A6C.7080602@...2337...>
References: <BLU0-SMTP9219D5F7DBCBCDCDF8AB70F98D0@...693...>
	<4B211A6C.7080602@...2337...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP986B71B5700E0E44BFA0F6F98D0@...693...>

Les Hardy schrieb:
> Norarg wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a problem with the clipboard,
>> using ubuntu 9.10, gambas 2.13
>>
>> following code works ONE time:
>>
>> PUBLIC SUB CLIP_B_Click()
>>   DIM S AS String
>>   DIM I AS Integer
>>   DIM TR AS Result
>>   TR = M.ReadRecord(OPVDM!tabelle, OPVDM!TBID, OPVDM!TBIDWert)
>>   IF TR.Count = 0 THEN
>>     Message.Info("Daten nicht gefunden", "Ok")
>>     RETURN
>>   ENDIF
>>   Clipboard.Clear
>>   S = "Datenausgabe " & OPVDM!betreff & CRLF
>>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>>   S = S & Left("Feld" & String(25, " "), 25) & Left("Wert" & String(40, 
>> " "), 40) & "Datentyp" & CRLF
>>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>>   OPVDF.MoveFirst
>>   TR.MoveFirst
>>   FOR I = 1 TO OPVDF.Count
>>     S = S & Left(OPVDF!feldbezeichnung & String(25, " "), 25)
>>     S = S & Left(TR[OPVDF!feldname] & String(50, " "), 40)
>>     S = S & OPVDF!feldtyp & CRLF
>>     OPVDF.MoveNext
>>   NEXT 
>>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>>   Clipboard.Copy(S)
>> END
>>
>> I am sure there is no data-problem, the print of S is ok.
>> The second time I call this procedure, I get a message in the direct-window:
>>
>> *QClipboard: cannot transfer data, no data available
>> *
>> I hope someone can help me with this. Oh, I also tried the following, to 
>> get sure nothing is wrong with the string (removed all data):
>>
>> PUBLIC SUB CLIP_B_Click()
>>   DIM S AS String
>>   Clipboard.Clear
>>   S = "Datenausgabe " & CRLF
>>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>>   S = S & Left("Feld" & String(25, " "), 25) & Left("Wert" & String(40, 
>> " "), 40) & "Datentyp" & CRLF
>>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>>   S = S & String(75, "_") & CRLF
>>   Clipboard.Copy(S)
>> END
>>
>> CRLF ist just CHR(10)
>>
>> Same error.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>     
>
> Just put a WAIT after Clipboard.Clear and it will be ok.
>
> Clipboard.Clear
> WAIT
>
>
> Regards
> Les Hardy
>
>
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>   
Thanks a lot, perfect
Regards
Norarg




From rterry at ...1946...  Thu Dec 10 22:53:01 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:53:01 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] menu button events Q
Message-ID: <200912110853.01306.rterry@...1946...>

I've a menu button and want to be able to detect a right mouse click over the 
text of the button.

None of the events seem intereceptable in the usual way in code, and creating 
an observor on the button and using stop events dosn't seem to work either
(gambas3 + qt4).

Is there something special about this button?

Regards

Richard



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 10 23:38:37 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:38:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Workspace and object .Visible property
In-Reply-To: <4B213F2C.2090302@...2332...>
References: <4B2118B5.6030607@...1740...>
	<4B213F2C.2090302@...2332...>
Message-ID: <200912102338.37480.gambas@...1...>

> Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> Technically, the component itself is still visible. You just can't see
> it because the tab to which it belongs is hidden.
> 
> If you need to know its visibility in that scenario, I guess you will
> have to check to see if its tab is the currently selected tab.
> 

Yes. The visible property actually means that the control is not explicitely 
hidden, i.e. that it will be visible if its coordinates are inside its 
container, and if there is no other controls or windows in front of it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From rterry at ...1946...  Fri Dec 11 05:18:43 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:18:43 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
Message-ID: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>

Hi List,

My really stupid question for the week.

If I create a new form with the dialog support it gets this code:
Public Sub Run() As Boolean

  Return Not Me.ShowModal()

End

Public Sub btnOK_Click()

  Me.Close(True)

End

Public Sub btnCancel_Click()

  Me.Close

End

If I had a textbox on the form and wanted to return its contents, what would 
be the change in syntax required?

Thanks in anticipation.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 07:22:54 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:22:54 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>

2009/12/11 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
> Hi List,
>
> My really stupid question for the week.

I'm sorry. You've already done that three times this week.

> If I had a textbox on the form and wanted to return its contents, what would
> be the change in syntax required?

None whatsoever.

Create a public variable in a common module. Set the variable from
within your modal form and read it from somewhere else, such as the
code that called the form, for example.

> Thanks in anticipation.

I'll send you the bill.



From wdahn at ...1000...  Fri Dec 11 07:25:44 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:25:44 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
Message-ID: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>

How can I ensure a resizable form does not get smaller than a certain
minimum?
That won't work:

Public Sub Form_Resize()
  If Me.Width < 200 Then
    Me.Width = 200
   ' Stop Event
  Endif
  If Me.Height < 180 Then
    Me.Height = 180
  '  Stop Event
  Endif
End

...no matter if I use Stop Event or not.

Regards

Werner




From rterry at ...1946...  Fri Dec 11 08:05:25 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:05:25 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912111805.25880.rterry@...1946...>

On Friday 11 December 2009 17:22:54 you wrote:
> 2009/12/11 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
> > Hi List,
> >
> > My really stupid question for the week.
> 
> I'm sorry. You've already done that three times this week.
> 
> > If I had a textbox on the form and wanted to return its contents, what
> > would be the change in syntax required?
> 
> None whatsoever.
> 
> Create a public variable in a common module. Set the variable from
> within your modal form and read it from somewhere else, such as the
> code that called the form, for example.
> 
> > Thanks in anticipation.
> 
> I'll send you the bill.
> 
I've already done that and its the method I use, so no $ accrue to you, 
however I wondered if there was  way of returning it via the modal form.

BTW when replying on the list its useful ***not to snip out the guts of the 
question*** so that others reading your reply can make sense of it.

Regards

Richard





From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 08:27:02 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:27:02 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <200912111805.25880.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
	<200912111805.25880.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912102327p196e7d62sdcb0cb49f527e510@...627...>

2009/12/11 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:

> BTW when replying on the list its useful ***not to snip out the guts of the
> question*** so that others reading your reply can make sense of it.

Why put the onus on me for something that annoys only you? If you
don't like the way I reply, don't read them.



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Fri Dec 11 09:33:53 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:33:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B2203F1.1000909@...1909...>

Kadaitcha Man ha scritto:
>> If I create a new form with the dialog support it gets this code:
>> Public Sub Run() As Boolean
>>     
>
>> If I had a textbox on the form and wanted to return its contents, what would
>> be the change in syntax required?
>>     
>
> None whatsoever.
>
> Create a public variable in a common module. Set the variable from
> within your modal form and read it from somewhere else, such as the
> code that called the form, for example.
>   
...with good restful peace for good programming tecniques...

I don't know what is this issue of "modal forms support" in gambas3 but, 
if things are as you have put them, then it is awful. Anyway, to create 
variables in yet another module, so ones have three files to do a single 
thing, is just the best way to mess up everything.

Regards,
Doriano



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 10:04:05 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:04:05 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <4B2203F1.1000909@...1909...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
	<4B2203F1.1000909@...1909...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912110104x788e79b5i53d5ee8511129b92@...627...>

2009/12/11 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
> Kadaitcha Man ha scritto:
>>> If I create a new form with the dialog support it gets this code:
>>> Public Sub Run() As Boolean
>>>
>>
>>> If I had a textbox on the form and wanted to return its contents, what would
>>> be the change in syntax required?
>>>
>>
>> None whatsoever.
>>
>> Create a public variable in a common module. Set the variable from
>> within your modal form and read it from somewhere else, such as the
>> code that called the form, for example.
>>
> ...with good restful peace for good programming tecniques...
>
> I don't know what is this issue of "modal forms support" in gambas3 but,
> if things are as you have put them, then it is awful. Anyway, to create
> variables in yet another module, so ones have three files to do a single
> thing, is just the best way to mess up everything.

First up, one generally does not write a GUI application to do one
single thing so creating a public variable in some module should not
be a major issue.

Second, someone else will have to tell you if there is a method other
than what I describe; I looked for days and found nothing. I tried for
many hours and failed to get it to work. When the Close() method is
called by the modal window, the window instantly commits Harakiri and
invalidates itself, so even if you instantiate a form inside a form
variable, the window is instantly dereferenced the moment Close()
executes.

Gambas should not do that, IMO. The form should stay accessible to
programmer via the variable until the programmer destroys it, or until
the method that created the form variable terminates.

I know it isn't kosher OO behavior, but what do you want from Gambas?
Is having kosher OO more important than being able to choose not to
have to learn C++, Pascal, or Java?



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 10:08:27 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:08:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912110104x788e79b5i53d5ee8511129b92@...627...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
	<4B2203F1.1000909@...1909...>
	<c811bd7b0912110104x788e79b5i53d5ee8511129b92@...627...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912110108x4d5bece4w5605f1cc43f24a7@...627...>

if you do not calm kadaitcha man you gonna get fired from this mailing
list. I have not used it but you are insulting and it is not
necessary. I would simply point out to you that all your intervention
are not necessarily very bright

Also if this is not to answer the question ... It is wiser to shut up!

To Richard:

Static Public sValue as string

Public Sub Run () As Boolean

 Return Not Me.ShowModal ()

End

Public Sub btnOK_Click ()
 sValue = TextBox1.Text
 Me.Close (True)

End

Public Sub btnCancel_Click ()

 Me.Close

End


MyForm.Run if () then

Print MyForm.sValue

endif

In this case sValue is static and can be called as if the class was a module.
This is useful in this case among others.
But for example if you were more instances of the same class (not in
modal mode), and that each instance fesait Appeal sValue ... then you
might not know the result ... sValue is common to all instances. As if
MyClass was a separate module.

That's all and not really a stupid question.

Fabien Bodard



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 10:10:53 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:10:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912110108x4d5bece4w5605f1cc43f24a7@...627...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
	<4B2203F1.1000909@...1909...>
	<c811bd7b0912110104x788e79b5i53d5ee8511129b92@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912110108x4d5bece4w5605f1cc43f24a7@...627...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912110110l77449423x2c17c4f9c36b980c@...627...>

if not MyForm.Run() then

Print MyForm.sValue

endif

2009/12/11 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> if you do not calm kadaitcha man you gonna get fired from this mailing
> list. I have not used it but you are insulting and it is not
> necessary. I would simply point out to you that all your intervention
> are not necessarily very bright
>
> Also if this is not to answer the question ... It is wiser to shut up!
>
> To Richard:
>
> Static Public sValue as string
>
> Public Sub Run () As Boolean
>
> ?Return Not Me.ShowModal ()
>
> End
>
> Public Sub btnOK_Click ()
> ?sValue = TextBox1.Text
> ?Me.Close (True)
>
> End
>
> Public Sub btnCancel_Click ()
>
> ?Me.Close
>
> End
>
>
> MyForm.Run if () then
>
> Print MyForm.sValue
>
> endif
>
> In this case sValue is static and can be called as if the class was a module.
> This is useful in this case among others.
> But for example if you were more instances of the same class (not in
> modal mode), and that each instance fesait Appeal sValue ... then you
> might not know the result ... sValue is common to all instances. As if
> MyClass was a separate module.
>
> That's all and not really a stupid question.
>
> Fabien Bodard
>



From les at ...2337...  Fri Dec 11 10:09:48 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:09:48 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <200912111805.25880.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
	<200912111805.25880.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <4B220C5C.6050400@...2337...>

richard terry wrote:
> On Friday 11 December 2009 17:22:54 you wrote:
>> 2009/12/11 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> My really stupid question for the week.
>> I'm sorry. You've already done that three times this week.
>>
>>> If I had a textbox on the form and wanted to return its contents, what
>>> would be the change in syntax required?
>> None whatsoever.
>>
>> Create a public variable in a common module. Set the variable from
>> within your modal form and read it from somewhere else, such as the
>> code that called the form, for example.
>>
>>> Thanks in anticipation.
>> I'll send you the bill.
>>
> I've already done that and its the method I use, so no $ accrue to you, 
> however I wondered if there was  way of returning it via the modal form.


Forgive my stupidity, but I must be missing something here. I don't
understand the problem.
My understanding is that when form controls are set public, you just
access the contents of any form from the form you are in. Modal or not.
Or have I been doing it wrong?


Sorry, I get it now. No export from Dialog.






From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 10:23:46 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:23:46 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912110108x4d5bece4w5605f1cc43f24a7@...627...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
	<4B2203F1.1000909@...1909...>
	<c811bd7b0912110104x788e79b5i53d5ee8511129b92@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912110108x4d5bece4w5605f1cc43f24a7@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912110123t41b7d332y35d1d4109bb757c9@...627...>

2009/12/11 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:

> Also if this is not to answer the question ...

It is an answer to the question.

> It is wiser to shut up!

> if you do not calm kadaitcha man you gonna get fired from this mailing
> list. I have not used it but you are insulting and it is not
> necessary. I would simply point out to you that all your intervention
> are not necessarily very bright

You can go and fuck yourself violently up the arse with the sharp end
of a broken champagne bottle for all I care.

Mes couilles sur ton nez.

I guess this means goodbye, hey? Parting is such sweet sorrow.



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Fri Dec 11 10:55:22 2009
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:55:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where is TextView?
Message-ID: <4B22170A.2060904@...221...>

I just started to convert a more complex Gambas1 app to Gambas2. Rather 
clumsy job...

Now I've come over a TextView control which seems not to exist anymore. 
What can I use instead? TextArea with ReadOnly? Or did I just oversee it?

Regards

Rolf



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Fri Dec 11 11:07:21 2009
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:07:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Isn't there an easier way...
Message-ID: <4B2219D9.9010301@...221...>

...of converting Gambas1 apps to Gambas2? I just thought, rebuilding the 
forms and dialogs control for control, copying their X, Y, Height and 
Width values and other properties one by one - it takes hours.

Hasn't anyone made a converter for the files yet? No requirement? It 
couldn't be too hard as the file formats aren't that far apart. With 
less complex projects I even managed to fake it manually, so Gambas2 
would accept the files and the project continued running.

Regards

Rolf



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 11:16:50 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:16:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where is TextView?
In-Reply-To: <4B22170A.2060904@...221...>
References: <4B22170A.2060904@...221...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912110216j396affcv745bb424f31aa5b6@...627...>

2009/12/11 Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen at ...221...>:
> I just started to convert a more complex Gambas1 app to Gambas2. Rather
> clumsy job...
>
> Now I've come over a TextView control which seems not to exist anymore.
> What can I use instead? TextArea with ReadOnly? Or did I just oversee it?

It's TextEdit now ... for the v2... since 4 years


>
> Regards
>
> Rolf
>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 11:18:30 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:18:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Isn't there an easier way...
In-Reply-To: <4B2219D9.9010301@...221...>
References: <4B2219D9.9010301@...221...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912110218t2d7955e3q25f5696afd93306f@...627...>

the converted is embbeded in the ide..; (Tool> convert forms)

You load the v1 project and then call this tool and then compile all...

but make a copy of your project before

2009/12/11 Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen at ...221...>:
> ...of converting Gambas1 apps to Gambas2? I just thought, rebuilding the
> forms and dialogs control for control, copying their X, Y, Height and
> Width values and other properties one by one - it takes hours.
>
> Hasn't anyone made a converter for the files yet? No requirement? It
> couldn't be too hard as the file formats aren't that far apart. With
> less complex projects I even managed to fake it manually, so Gambas2
> would accept the files and the project continued running.
>
> Regards
>
> Rolf
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Return on Information:
> Google Enterprise Search pays you back
> Get the facts.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 11:19:38 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:19:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
In-Reply-To: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>

in gambas 2 the minimum size of a form is set by the size given at the desing...

2009/12/11 Werner <wdahn at ...1000...>:
> How can I ensure a resizable form does not get smaller than a certain
> minimum?
> That won't work:
>
> Public Sub Form_Resize()
> ?If Me.Width < 200 Then
> ? ?Me.Width = 200
> ? ' Stop Event
> ?Endif
> ?If Me.Height < 180 Then
> ? ?Me.Height = 180
> ?' ?Stop Event
> ?Endif
> End
>
> ...no matter if I use Stop Event or not.
>
> Regards
>
> Werner
>
>
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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 11:27:16 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:27:16 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>
	<6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>
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2009/12/11 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:

> in gambas 2 the minimum size of a form is set by the size given at the desing...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Guess again.

"if this is not to answer the question ... It is wiser to shut up!"



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 11:27:21 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:27:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] menu button events Q
In-Reply-To: <200912110853.01306.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912110853.01306.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912110227t656f3e8r95a5774b439144f4@...627...>

That's ok on the rev 2475

2009/12/10 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
> I've a menu button and want to be able to detect a right mouse click over the
> text of the button.
>
> None of the events seem intereceptable in the usual way in code, and creating
> an observor on the button and using stop events dosn't seem to work either
> (gambas3 + qt4).
>
> Is there something special about this button?
>
> Regards
>
> Richard
>
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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 11:35:54 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:35:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>
	<6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B22208A.40402@...626...>

Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> in gambas 2 the minimum size of a form is set by the size given at the desing...

it's only true if it is a fixed sized, otherwise you can shrink it as you want...

-- 
It's the Magic that counts.
		-- Larry Wall on Perl's apparent ugliness



From emil at ...1913...  Fri Dec 11 11:27:45 2009
From: emil at ...1913... (Emil Tchekov)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:27:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form / for Kadaitcha Man
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912110227j40a0660bi309008f2dbdc8c1e@...627...>
Message-ID: <ELEGJCBCHCOHJKNPKNBOAEFJEAAA.emil@...1913...>

Dear friend,

can you please stop with this behaviour?

I will be very thankfull and appreciating your good manners.

Thank you very much in advance

sincerely

Emil




> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kadaitcha Man [mailto:nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2009 11:27
> An: mailing list for gambas users
> Betreff: Re: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
> 
> 
> 2009/12/11 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> 
> > in gambas 2 the minimum size of a form is set by the size given 
> at the desing...
> 
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> 
> Guess again.
> 
> "if this is not to answer the question ... It is wiser to shut up!"
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 11:52:32 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:52:32 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] An Apology
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912110252i22290039g4edd8c746b720127@...627...>

I have pissed off a few people. If there is anyone whom I have not
pissed off, I apologise.



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 12:01:19 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:01:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
In-Reply-To: <4B22208A.40402@...626...>
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>
	<6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>
	<4B22208A.40402@...626...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>

ok Error from mine :) ... but for one part the min size is fixed at
the desing but only for windows with ToolBox option at true

And in gambas3 with windows.type at Utility

2009/12/11 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>:
> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
>> in gambas 2 the minimum size of a form is set by the size given at the desing...
>
> it's only true if it is a fixed sized, otherwise you can shrink it as you want...
>
> --
> It's the Magic that counts.
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-- Larry Wall on Perl's apparent ugliness
>
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From emil at ...1913...  Fri Dec 11 11:55:00 2009
From: emil at ...1913... (Emil Tchekov)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:55:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Kadaitcha Man
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912110244n1343130cm449d25e323c7a10b@...627...>
Message-ID: <ELEGJCBCHCOHJKNPKNBOMEFKEAAA.emil@...1913...>



> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kadaitcha Man [mailto:nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2009 11:44
> An: Emil Tchekov
> Betreff: Re: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form / for Kadaitcha Man
> 
> 
> 2009/12/11 Emil Tchekov <emil at ...1913...>:
> 
> > Thank you very much in advance
> 
> Get fucked very much in advance.
> 


I do not know why you are so insulted... Hope you will calm down

Think Netiquette and good manners should solve problems and help us for better understanding.

Wish you all the best and hope you will get better!

Emil




From 12ukwn at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 12:08:34 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:08:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>	<6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>	<4B22208A.40402@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B222832.70109@...626...>

Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> ok Error from mine :) ... but for one part the min size is fixed at
> the desing but only for windows with ToolBox option at true

zarb, it would be a good idea to also have min X,Y (not especially linked to
a toolbar)

> And in gambas3 with windows.type at Utility

-- 
If you live in New York, even if you're Catholic, you're Jewish.
		-- Lenny Bruce



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Fri Dec 11 12:08:24 2009
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:08:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Isn't there an easier way...
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912110218t2d7955e3q25f5696afd93306f@...627...>
References: <4B2219D9.9010301@...221...>
	<6324a42a0912110218t2d7955e3q25f5696afd93306f@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B222828.80809@...221...>

Hmm! Interesting!

I copied the original directory to another place with a different name 
and loaded the project into Gambas2. It complained, wanted to know "Do 
you really want...", OK.

Then I chose Tools/Update all Forms. After some work, it says

Cannot open file

Component missing
FForm.CreateControl.1073

Unfortunately, it doesn't continue but stops here, so I cannot start the 
project at all. It seems, it didn't change anything so far.

Where should I start to look for the reason?

Rolf


Am 11.12.2009 11:18, schrieb Fabien Bodard:
> the converted is embbeded in the ide..; (Tool>  convert forms)
>
> You load the v1 project and then call this tool and then compile all...
>
> but make a copy of your project before
>
> 2009/12/11 Rolf-Werner Eilert<eilert-sprachen at ...221...>:
>> ...of converting Gambas1 apps to Gambas2? I just thought, rebuilding the
>> forms and dialogs control for control, copying their X, Y, Height and
>> Width values and other properties one by one - it takes hours.
>>
>> Hasn't anyone made a converter for the files yet? No requirement? It
>> couldn't be too hard as the file formats aren't that far apart. With
>> less complex projects I even managed to fake it manually, so Gambas2
>> would accept the files and the project continued running.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 12:20:16 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:20:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Isn't there an easier way...
In-Reply-To: <4B222828.80809@...221...>
References: <4B2219D9.9010301@...221...>
	<6324a42a0912110218t2d7955e3q25f5696afd93306f@...627...>
	<4B222828.80809@...221...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912110320s5ac94dd2w6fef20609968369a@...627...>

if you can send e directly your project ... i will be able to see the problem...

2009/12/11 Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen at ...221...>:
> Hmm! Interesting!
>
> I copied the original directory to another place with a different name
> and loaded the project into Gambas2. It complained, wanted to know "Do
> you really want...", OK.
>
> Then I chose Tools/Update all Forms. After some work, it says
>
> Cannot open file
>
> Component missing
> FForm.CreateControl.1073
>
> Unfortunately, it doesn't continue but stops here, so I cannot start the
> project at all. It seems, it didn't change anything so far.
>
> Where should I start to look for the reason?
>
> Rolf
>
>
> Am 11.12.2009 11:18, schrieb Fabien Bodard:
>> the converted is embbeded in the ide..; (Tool> ?convert forms)
>>
>> You load the v1 project and then call this tool and then compile all...
>>
>> but make a copy of your project before
>>
>> 2009/12/11 Rolf-Werner Eilert<eilert-sprachen at ...221...>:
>>> ...of converting Gambas1 apps to Gambas2? I just thought, rebuilding the
>>> forms and dialogs control for control, copying their X, Y, Height and
>>> Width values and other properties one by one - it takes hours.
>>>
>>> Hasn't anyone made a converter for the files yet? No requirement? It
>>> couldn't be too hard as the file formats aren't that far apart. With
>>> less complex projects I even managed to fake it manually, so Gambas2
>>> would accept the files and the project continued running.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Rolf
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Return on Information:
>>> Google Enterprise Search pays you back
>>> Get the facts.
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev
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>>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec 11 12:38:06 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:38:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] menu button events Q
In-Reply-To: <200912110853.01306.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912110853.01306.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <200912111238.06211.gambas@...1...>

> I've a menu button and want to be able to detect a right mouse click over
>  the text of the button.
> 
> None of the events seem intereceptable in the usual way in code, and
>  creating an observor on the button and using stop events dosn't seem to
>  work either (gambas3 + qt4).
> 
> Is there something special about this button?
> 

Yes, it is actually a compound control including one button for the picture 
and another one for the little arrow.

Why do you need to catch mouse events on this button?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec 11 12:49:20 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:49:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] An Apology
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912110252i22290039g4edd8c746b720127@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912110252i22290039g4edd8c746b720127@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912111249.20635.gambas@...1...>

> I have pissed off a few people. If there is anyone whom I have not
> pissed off, I apologise.
> 

Kadaitcha Man,

Thanks for your apology.

But you are going to stop throwing insults in your posts, otherwise you will 
be banned.

There are about six hundred people on this mailing-list, I don't want them to 
be disturbed by only one.

This is my first and last warning.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From norarg at ...2311...  Fri Dec 11 13:18:20 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:18:20 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] SVN
In-Reply-To: <200912111249.20635.gambas@...1...>
References: <c811bd7b0912110252i22290039g4edd8c746b720127@...627...>
	<200912111249.20635.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP414CB779B9479CE4655B91F98C0@...693...>

Hi,

I would like to try out newer releases of Gambas, fox. 3.0. I had some 
problems with other releases in the past - in the end gambas did not 
work at all. I have tried to figure it out, but did not found what I am 
looking for: does a SVN substitute a stable version, or do they "live" 
side by side? I assume, that a lot of lib's have to be changed.

I ask this, because I don't want to mess up the system - again :) 
Meanwhile I am perfect in setting up Ubuntu from the ground... lol what 
a heavy part ... but my internet-connection is that slow, I need two 
days to download the newest lib's and changes from ubuntu after the 
ground installation. (And please don't tell me, get a faster 
internet-connection, one do not get it on the country-side of argentina).


thanks in advance,
regards
norarg



From wdahn at ...1000...  Fri Dec 11 13:25:16 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:25:16 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>	<6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>	<4B22208A.40402@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B223A2C.20408@...1000...>

On 11/12/09 19:01, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> ok Error from mine :) ... but for one part the min size is fixed at
> the desing but only for windows with ToolBox option at true
>
> And in gambas3 with windows.type at Utility
>   
Yes that works for me. Thanks!

Werner




From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 13:26:33 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:26:33 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...><6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...><4B22208A.40402@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>
Message-ID: <2973BF1831264B86B10CB7C4934C1012@...2330...>

Fabien Bodard wrote:

> ok Error from mine :) ... but for one part the min size is fixed at
> the desing but only for windows with ToolBox option at true

Not true. The minimum size of any form shown as modal is the design-time 
size. 




From 12ukwn at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 13:40:04 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:40:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SVN
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP414CB779B9479CE4655B91F98C0@...693...>
References: <c811bd7b0912110252i22290039g4edd8c746b720127@...627...>	<200912111249.20635.gambas@...1...>
	<BLU0-SMTP414CB779B9479CE4655B91F98C0@...693...>
Message-ID: <4B223DA4.4060108@...626...>

Norarg a ?crit :

PLS avoid cross-posting: open a new post by adressing to 
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>

> I would like to try out newer releases of Gambas, fox. 3.0. I had some 
> problems with other releases in the past - in the end gambas did not 
> work at all. I have tried to figure it out, but did not found what I am 
> looking for: does a SVN substitute a stable version, or do they "live" 
> side by side? I assume, that a lot of lib's have to be changed.

usually SVN is for development:
gb2 SVN is bug fixing and adding new features, new stable versions comes
 from it when the developer decide it is good enough for release,
gb3 SVN is pure dev and change almost every day.

> I ask this, because I don't want to mess up the system - again :) 
> Meanwhile I am perfect in setting up Ubuntu from the ground... lol what 
> a heavy part ... but my internet-connection is that slow, I need two 
> days to download the newest lib's and changes from ubuntu after the 

well, if you're so slow forget about building gb: you'll need many dev
libs, and the total isn't light weight (the only reason would be to test
gb3, or because you absolutely need a gb2 fix or new feature.)

> ground installation. (And please don't tell me, get a faster 
> internet-connection, one do not get it on the country-side of argentina).

may be this could help you (depending on the budget you can&|want engage)
http://www.tempestcom.com/services/satrbgan_plans.aspx

> thanks in advance,

Our friends from land where flying dragons comes from are very welcome :D

JY
-- 
Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found
difficult and not tried.
		-- G. K. Chesterton



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 13:40:37 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:40:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
In-Reply-To: <2973BF1831264B86B10CB7C4934C1012@...2330...>
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>
	<6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>
	<4B22208A.40402@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>
	<2973BF1831264B86B10CB7C4934C1012@...2330...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912110440gcc35c3bpb989cd2a3840664d@...627...>

2009/12/11 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
> Fabien Bodard wrote:
>
>> ok Error from mine :) ... but for one part the min size is fixed at
>> the desing but only for windows with ToolBox option at true
>
> Not true. The minimum size of any form shown as modal is the design-time
> size.

yes

>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 13:45:12 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:45:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>	<6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>	<4B22208A.40402@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B223ED8.3050107@...626...>

Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> ok Error from mine :) ... but for one part the min size is fixed at
> the desing but only for windows with ToolBox option at true

O_o: I checked Toolbox and my CPU climbed up to 100% (gbx2), starting 
the application but not showing anything!?

-- 
Trouble always comes at the wrong time.



From wdahn at ...1000...  Fri Dec 11 13:15:34 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:15:34 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form / for Kadaitcha Man
In-Reply-To: <ELEGJCBCHCOHJKNPKNBOAEFJEAAA.emil@...1913...>
References: <ELEGJCBCHCOHJKNPKNBOAEFJEAAA.emil@...1913...>
Message-ID: <4B2237E6.9040309@...1000...>

On 11/12/09 18:27, Emil Tchekov wrote:
> Dear friend,
>
> can you please stop with this behaviour?
>
> I will be very thankfull and appreciating your good manners.
>
> Thank you very much in advance
>
> sincerely
>
> Emil
>
>   
I googled him up and could not find any constructive comments made by
him anywhere.
He is now in my killfile.

Regards,
Werner




From alerinaldi at ...2334...  Fri Dec 11 14:26:42 2009
From: alerinaldi at ...2334... (Alessandro Rinaldi)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:26:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form / for Kadaitcha Man
In-Reply-To: <4B2237E6.9040309@...1000...>
References: <ELEGJCBCHCOHJKNPKNBOAEFJEAAA.emil@...1913...>
	<4B2237E6.9040309@...1000...>
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http://www.mombu.com/medicine/psychology/t-trolls-the-kadaitcha-man-1061830.html
I see :)



From norarg at ...2311...  Fri Dec 11 14:49:15 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:49:15 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] SVN
In-Reply-To: <4B223DA4.4060108@...626...>
References: <c811bd7b0912110252i22290039g4edd8c746b720127@...627...>	<200912111249.20635.gambas@...1...>	<BLU0-SMTP414CB779B9479CE4655B91F98C0@...693...>
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Jean-Yves F. Barbier schrieb:
> Norarg a ?crit :
>
> PLS avoid cross-posting: open a new post by adressing to 
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>
>   
>> I would like to try out newer releases of Gambas, fox. 3.0. I had some 
>> problems with other releases in the past - in the end gambas did not 
>> work at all. I have tried to figure it out, but did not found what I am 
>> looking for: does a SVN substitute a stable version, or do they "live" 
>> side by side? I assume, that a lot of lib's have to be changed.
>>     
>
> usually SVN is for development:
> gb2 SVN is bug fixing and adding new features, new stable versions comes
>  from it when the developer decide it is good enough for release,
> gb3 SVN is pure dev and change almost every day.
>
>   
>> I ask this, because I don't want to mess up the system - again :) 
>> Meanwhile I am perfect in setting up Ubuntu from the ground... lol what 
>> a heavy part ... but my internet-connection is that slow, I need two 
>> days to download the newest lib's and changes from ubuntu after the 
>>     
>
> well, if you're so slow forget about building gb: you'll need many dev
> libs, and the total isn't light weight (the only reason would be to test
> gb3, or because you absolutely need a gb2 fix or new feature.)
>
>   
>> ground installation. (And please don't tell me, get a faster 
>> internet-connection, one do not get it on the country-side of argentina).
>>     
>
> may be this could help you (depending on the budget you can&|want engage)
> http://www.tempestcom.com/services/satrbgan_plans.aspx
>
>   
>> thanks in advance,
>>     
>
> Our friends from land where flying dragons comes from are very welcome :D
>
> JY
>   
First of all, thanks, that is helpful.

In fact I am Norwegian, but live here for about a year now - I'll never 
go back to Europe to live there - here everything is set back 30-40 
years (country-side, not Buenos Aires), and I just love the easy way of 
living after 30 years with IT-stress in Middle-Europe. And learn some 
Spanish on the way :)  Now I have time to program what I want, not to 
make compromises because of lack of time. I figure, I will use another 
year to make my apps, some free, some commercial. Gambas is a perfect 
front-end for MySQL, the speed is amazing, processing tables as fast as 
if they were local variables in VB. I experimented a little with 
Netbeans, but gave up - that is another world; too complicated for my 
needs. Starting with Linux I still had the thought of making software 
for more platforms; meanwhile I just don't want to see Windows anymore - 
ignore it as none-existent :)

I looked at the link you sent me - well - it really exceeds my budget a 
little, because the price of a MB is pretty high; 5,25 $ for one MB, if 
I got it right. I have 128kbs here (was used to 16mbits in Europe), can 
double it (if I am able to catch the guy installing this, his nickname 
is Lento (Slow)). Somehow one learn patience living in Argentina....


Regards,
norarg



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 15:37:15 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:37:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Minimum Size of a Form
In-Reply-To: <4B223ED8.3050107@...626...>
References: <4B21E5E8.1080906@...1000...>
	<6324a42a0912110219nc57e940hfaaad0a23b4636a6@...627...>
	<4B22208A.40402@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912110301k48c4daffm6d2295cf50fe1750@...627...>
	<4B223ED8.3050107@...626...>
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2009/12/11 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>:
> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
>> ok Error from mine :) ... but for one part the min size is fixed at
>> the desing but only for windows with ToolBox option at true
>
> O_o: I checked Toolbox and my CPU climbed up to 100% (gbx2), starting
> the application but not showing anything!?

same for me .... ubuntu have some problem with qt3 gb v2.13

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>
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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Fri Dec 11 15:39:17 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:39:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SVN
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP9637046FB9BB8B0B107C78F98C0@...693...>
References: <c811bd7b0912110252i22290039g4edd8c746b720127@...627...>	<200912111249.20635.gambas@...1...>	<BLU0-SMTP414CB779B9479CE4655B91F98C0@...693...>	<4B223DA4.4060108@...626...>
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Norarg a ?crit :
...
> First of all, thanks, that is helpful.
> 
> In fact I am Norwegian, but live here for about a year now - I'll never 

Hey, welcome to our friends from the land of horny smoked salmons!

> go back to Europe to live there - here everything is set back 30-40 
> years (country-side, not Buenos Aires), and I just love the easy way of 
> living after 30 years with IT-stress in Middle-Europe. And learn some 
> Spanish on the way :)  Now I have time to program what I want, not to 

I understand what you mean: I don't like town nor its turmoil either.

> make compromises because of lack of time. I figure, I will use another 
> year to make my apps, some free, some commercial. Gambas is a perfect 
> front-end for MySQL, the speed is amazing, processing tables as fast as 
> if they were local variables in VB. I experimented a little with 
> Netbeans, but gave up - that is another world; too complicated for my 
> needs. Starting with Linux I still had the thought of making software 
> for more platforms; meanwhile I just don't want to see Windows anymore - 
> ignore it as none-existent :)

Well, gb is a good choice and you can also use it from other platforms
with something like FreeNX: there are clients for w$ & apple.
(This is a kind of TSR: the server's doing all the work and you've got
the windows onto your regular desktop transparently, with debit as low
as ~30KB/sec (peak and 1st shot before caching!))

You also have Python that is multi-platforms but desesperatly lacks a
real good RAD (and it is also slower than gb.)

> I looked at the link you sent me - well - it really exceeds my budget a 
> little, because the price of a MB is pretty high; 5,25 $ for one MB, if 
> I got it right. I have 128kbs here (was used to 16mbits in Europe), can 
> double it (if I am able to catch the guy installing this, his nickname 
> is Lento (Slow)). Somehow one learn patience living in Argentina....

Yeah, sorry I missed the unit: MB (thought it was GB:(
Sat prices are ~?90 for 512kbps in france, so I guess you won't find
no more than 128kbps for the same price in Argentina.

ubuntu is a good choice as it is Debian based (unlike rh you just install
what you want :)
but avoid unstable branch, as you'll need several MB to upgrade per day.

JY
-- 
Psychoanalysis??  I thought this was a nude rap session!!!



From norarg at ...2311...  Fri Dec 11 16:25:45 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:25:45 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] SVN
In-Reply-To: <4B225995.6080406@...626...>
References: <c811bd7b0912110252i22290039g4edd8c746b720127@...627...>	<200912111249.20635.gambas@...1...>	<BLU0-SMTP414CB779B9479CE4655B91F98C0@...693...>	<4B223DA4.4060108@...626...>	<BLU0-SMTP9637046FB9BB8B0B107C78F98C0@...693...>
	<4B225995.6080406@...626...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP95A6936CC02B0B46D8B2A4F98C0@...693...>

thanks again,

get some worthy informations here :)

btw. prices are not really the problem here, I pay 70 pesos=12? monthly, 
the availability is:  because of the size of ARG they have very little 
of cables, everything is wireless. In the village where I live, they 
have two internet-providers - one of them has a "backbone" with 3 MBs - 
for about 300 users, so you get crazy trying to download something. This 
is near the river Parana, which is infamous for its storms (ask a sailor 
passing La Plata by Montevideo) - and those are periodical taking down 
the antennas, if the lightning does not do the work, the powersupply is 
down - just a little adventure living here. People are very friendly and 
as civilized as in Europe. And the climate is a hit. Enough :)

I'll go on with Gambas, looking for how to print, reporting, XML, PDF 
and so on.

Regards
norarg

Jean-Yves F. Barbier schrieb:
> Norarg a ?crit :
> ...
>   
>> First of all, thanks, that is helpful.
>>
>> In fact I am Norwegian, but live here for about a year now - I'll never 
>>     
>
> Hey, welcome to our friends from the land of horny smoked salmons!
>
>   
>> go back to Europe to live there - here everything is set back 30-40 
>> years (country-side, not Buenos Aires), and I just love the easy way of 
>> living after 30 years with IT-stress in Middle-Europe. And learn some 
>> Spanish on the way :)  Now I have time to program what I want, not to 
>>     
>
> I understand what you mean: I don't like town nor its turmoil either.
>
>   
>> make compromises because of lack of time. I figure, I will use another 
>> year to make my apps, some free, some commercial. Gambas is a perfect 
>> front-end for MySQL, the speed is amazing, processing tables as fast as 
>> if they were local variables in VB. I experimented a little with 
>> Netbeans, but gave up - that is another world; too complicated for my 
>> needs. Starting with Linux I still had the thought of making software 
>> for more platforms; meanwhile I just don't want to see Windows anymore - 
>> ignore it as none-existent :)
>>     
>
> Well, gb is a good choice and you can also use it from other platforms
> with something like FreeNX: there are clients for w$ & apple.
> (This is a kind of TSR: the server's doing all the work and you've got
> the windows onto your regular desktop transparently, with debit as low
> as ~30KB/sec (peak and 1st shot before caching!))
>
> You also have Python that is multi-platforms but desesperatly lacks a
> real good RAD (and it is also slower than gb.)
>
>   
>> I looked at the link you sent me - well - it really exceeds my budget a 
>> little, because the price of a MB is pretty high; 5,25 $ for one MB, if 
>> I got it right. I have 128kbs here (was used to 16mbits in Europe), can 
>> double it (if I am able to catch the guy installing this, his nickname 
>> is Lento (Slow)). Somehow one learn patience living in Argentina....
>>     
>
> Yeah, sorry I missed the unit: MB (thought it was GB:(
> Sat prices are ~?90 for 512kbps in france, so I guess you won't find
> no more than 128kbps for the same price in Argentina.
>
> ubuntu is a good choice as it is Debian based (unlike rh you just install
> what you want :)
> but avoid unstable branch, as you'll need several MB to upgrade per day.
>
> JY
>   



From les at ...2337...  Fri Dec 11 09:31:11 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:31:11 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <200912111805.25880.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
	<200912111805.25880.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <4B22034F.8040405@...2337...>

richard terry wrote:
> On Friday 11 December 2009 17:22:54 you wrote:
>> 2009/12/11 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> My really stupid question for the week.
>> I'm sorry. You've already done that three times this week.
>>
>>> If I had a textbox on the form and wanted to return its contents, what
>>> would be the change in syntax required?
>> None whatsoever.
>>
>> Create a public variable in a common module. Set the variable from
>> within your modal form and read it from somewhere else, such as the
>> code that called the form, for example.
>>
>>> Thanks in anticipation.
>> I'll send you the bill.
>>
> I've already done that and its the method I use, so no $ accrue to you, 
> however I wondered if there was  way of returning it via the modal form.


Forgive my stupidity, but I must be missing something here. I don't 
understand the problem.
My understanding is that when form controls are set public, you just 
access the contents of any form from the form you are in. Modal or not.
Or have I been doing it wrong?





From arosa at ...2015...  Fri Dec 11 18:14:16 2009
From: arosa at ...2015... (Toni)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:14:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Timer
Message-ID: <4B227DE8.7010705@...2015...>

Hi,
I've an application that has a timer that should get fired every 1 
second. Sometimes when the application is running and my desktop is 
under heavy load the timer doesn't get fired in time. Despite this, my 
expectation was that gambas would queue all this "Timer" events and they 
would get executed as soon as it got enough free CPU time.
Opposed to that, gambas just discards them... i.e. If my system isn't 
responsive for 5 seconds, after this time I won't get the Timer() method 
called 5 times for each second where it should have been called.

Is there a way to get the timer control working in a way that it queues 
the due events, and they get executed even if it is later on?
Thanks,
Toni

P.S: Using Gambas 2.18, Ubuntu 8.10 64bits



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec 11 18:22:50 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:22:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Timer
In-Reply-To: <4B227DE8.7010705@...2015...>
References: <4B227DE8.7010705@...2015...>
Message-ID: <200912111822.50056.gambas@...1...>

> Hi,
> I've an application that has a timer that should get fired every 1
> second. Sometimes when the application is running and my desktop is
> under heavy load the timer doesn't get fired in time. Despite this, my
> expectation was that gambas would queue all this "Timer" events and they
> would get executed as soon as it got enough free CPU time.
> Opposed to that, gambas just discards them... i.e. If my system isn't
> responsive for 5 seconds, after this time I won't get the Timer() method
> called 5 times for each second where it should have been called.
> 
> Is there a way to get the timer control working in a way that it queues
> the due events, and they get executed even if it is later on?
> Thanks,
> Toni
> 
> P.S: Using Gambas 2.18, Ubuntu 8.10 64bits
> 

No, sorry: you must do it yourself.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sat Dec 12 00:13:34 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:13:34 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912110108x4d5bece4w5605f1cc43f24a7@...627...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
	<4B2203F1.1000909@...1909...>
	<c811bd7b0912110104x788e79b5i53d5ee8511129b92@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912110108x4d5bece4w5605f1cc43f24a7@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912111513v6078cb45xbc85056696581cd8@...627...>

2009/12/11 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:

> Static Public sValue as string
>
> Public Sub Run () As Boolean

I knew there was a reason not to use your method and to make the
recommendation I did.

If you tested that code then I presume you did it in gb3 and not gb2.

Gambas 2 either crashes out with a SIG 11, or in some unfathomable
instances, when the form is closed, it drops into debug and complains
about the pending destruction of a public static variable. Furthermore
if the form is instantiated in a variable of type Form then you cannot
access the public static by referencing the variable as a property in
the instanced form type variable;  the only way to get to the value of
the public static is directly from the class itself, like this:

  DIM ff AS NEW Form1

  IF NOT ff.Run() THEN

    PRINT Form1.sValue

  ENDIF

In short, Fabien, as far as I can tell, the only way to make it work
correctly in gb2 is to do it the way I originally said to do it. Of
course I'm open to being shown to be wrong.



From rterry at ...1946...  Sat Dec 12 04:46:54 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:46:54 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] menu button events Q
In-Reply-To: <200912111238.06211.gambas@...1...>
References: <200912110853.01306.rterry@...1946...>
	<200912111238.06211.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912121446.54336.rterry@...1946...>

On Friday 11 December 2009 22:38:06 you wrote:
> > I've a menu button and want to be able to detect a right mouse click over
> >  the text of the button.
> >
> > None of the events seem intereceptable in the usual way in code, and
> >  creating an observor on the button and using stop events dosn't seem to
> >  work either (gambas3 + qt4).
> >
> > Is there something special about this button?
> 
> Yes, it is actually a compound control including one button for the picture
> and another one for the little arrow.
> 
> Why do you need to catch mouse events on this button?
> 
Hi Benoit, I've just been extending the utility of the webview example for 
myprogram -

several , 1 to directly access cdc travel medicine just by typing a country 
name into the txtURL, to include a google textbox, and  
to allow user to create bookmark folders on a toolbar under the txtURL

I wanted to exactly emulate what firefox does, which is allow the user to 
rightmouse click on the folder > menu, as well as allowing click on the folder 
> drop down menu.

Anyhow, I've found a way around it using an observor, so if/when I get it 
working properly I'll send you the code to see if you want to include it in 
the demo.

Regarding keeping bookmarks, is there an accepted place to put them?, or just 
a settings file?

Also, any timeline on the print from webview?

Regards

richard


Regards

richard



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Dec 12 08:00:19 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:00:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912111513v6078cb45xbc85056696581cd8@...627...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
	<c811bd7b0912102222t118b92celfdd423d2f8af1982@...627...>
	<4B2203F1.1000909@...1909...>
	<c811bd7b0912110104x788e79b5i53d5ee8511129b92@...627...>
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Message-ID: <6324a42a0912112300u6d1df2afl9b2e6b7eb0cbc808@...627...>

2009/12/12 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
> 2009/12/11 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>
>> Static Public sValue as string
>>
>> Public Sub Run () As Boolean
>
> I knew there was a reason not to use your method and to make the
> recommendation I did.
>
> If you tested that code then I presume you did it in gb3 and not gb2.
>
> Gambas 2 either crashes out with a SIG 11, or in some unfathomable
> instances, when the form is closed, it drops into debug and complains
> about the pending destruction of a public static variable. Furthermore
> if the form is instantiated in a variable of type Form then you cannot
> access the public static by referencing the variable as a property in
> the instanced form type variable; ?the only way to get to the value of
> the public static is directly from the class itself, like this:
>
> ?DIM ff AS NEW Form1
>
> ?IF NOT ff.Run() THEN
>
> ? ?PRINT Form1.sValue
>
> ?ENDIF
>
> In short, Fabien, as far as I can tell, the only way to make it work
> correctly in gb2 is to do it the way I originally said to do it. Of
> course I'm open to being shown to be wrong.

in fact you are right in the vb way ... but not it OO way...

And gambas is more in the OO one and since the begining.

For the return problem ... there is not problem as the run procedure
can return the value.

You can use a public variable in a module too

Private sValue as string
STATIC Publc Run() as string

  if not me.showmodal then return
  return sValue
END

dim s as string
s = fForm.Run
if s then print s

>
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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sat Dec 12 08:22:33 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:22:33 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Really dumb question about dialog forms
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912112300u6d1df2afl9b2e6b7eb0cbc808@...627...>
References: <200912111518.43150.rterry@...1946...>
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Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912112322u2d3be801v1ec425347e7a79c5@...627...>

2009/12/12 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> 2009/12/12 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:

>> In short, Fabien, as far as I can tell, the only way to make it work
>> correctly in gb2 is to do it the way I originally said to do it. Of
>> course I'm open to being shown to be wrong.
>
> in fact you are right in the vb way ... but not it OO way...

It looks broken to me, but that's just my opinion.

> You can use a public variable in a module too

That was essentially what I indicated he should do.



From rolf.frogs at ...221...  Sat Dec 12 12:49:54 2009
From: rolf.frogs at ...221... (Rolf Schmidt)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:49:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] menu button events Q
In-Reply-To: <200912121446.54336.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912110853.01306.rterry@...1946...>
	<200912111238.06211.gambas@...1...>
	<200912121446.54336.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <200912121249.54980.rolf.frogs@...221...>

Hello Richard

> Regarding keeping bookmarks, is there an accepted place to put them?, or
> just a settings file?

There are a lot of possibilities:
1. A file in the home directory - perhaps as xml-file
2. In a sqlite database as firefox do it, also as a file in the home directory
3. In a LDAP database, so it could be reached from different places

HTH
Rolf



From norarg at ...2311...  Sat Dec 12 16:09:40 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:09:40 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] LEN()
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP269BDFB5B9BC091DFB140CF98B0@...693...>

hi,

I get a bit strange results from the LEN()-function.
If there are characters like the German Umlaute in the string (???????),
the result just does not fit. It seems to me, that LEN("?") gives back 2 
instead of 1,
is this possible?

I fill up a string with spaces for a more (or less) formatted simple 
text-file,
the columns separated with "|".

Using Tabs (chr(9)) gives me more work, and it would not solve this 
problem, because I still would have to ask for the string-lenght.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance
regards
norarg



From simonart.dominique at ...11...  Sat Dec 12 17:20:23 2009
From: simonart.dominique at ...11... (Simonart Dominique)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:20:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] LEN()
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP269BDFB5B9BC091DFB140CF98B0@...693...>
References: <BLU0-SMTP269BDFB5B9BC091DFB140CF98B0@...693...>
Message-ID: <4B23C2C7.8060003@...11...>

Hi,

Len() function is based on one-byte character, but some 
characters need 2 bytes code, like the german's you mentionned.

Use the String class methods and all will works as you expected

HTH
Dominique Simonart

Norarg a ?crit :
> hi,
> 
> I get a bit strange results from the LEN()-function.
> If there are characters like the German Umlaute in the string (???????),
> the result just does not fit. It seems to me, that LEN("?") gives back 2 
> instead of 1,
> is this possible?
> 
> I fill up a string with spaces for a more (or less) formatted simple 
> text-file,
> the columns separated with "|".
> 
> Using Tabs (chr(9)) gives me more work, and it would not solve this 
> problem, because I still would have to ask for the string-lenght.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> regards
> norarg
> 
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From norarg at ...2311...  Sat Dec 12 17:21:00 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:21:00 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Workaround for LEN()
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1006F80AB9AA2A33EA89621F98B0@...693...>

don't get any mails today, it seems.

I solved the LEN()-problem with a not very pretty function.

' Workaround LEN()-Function
PUBLIC FUNCTION SetLenght(txt AS String, leng AS Integer) AS String
  DIM L AS Integer
  DIM T1 AS String 
  DIM T2 AS String
  T1 = ""
  L = 0
  DO WHILE L < leng
    L = L + 1
    TRY T2 = String.Mid(txt, L, 1)
    ' hmmm does not get error here
    IF ERROR THEN
      T1 = T1 & " "
    ELSE
      ' Workaraound  because of no error
      ' (does the pointer exceeds the string-length, or is the lenght 
set to max. by default?)
      IF T2 = "" THEN
          T1 = T1 & " "
        ELSE
          T1 = T1 & T2
    ENDIF
  LOOP
  RETURN T1
END


Still it would be nice to hear from someone about this, I do not find 
this solution
good. I assume it has something to do with the characterset, but I can 
not really figure it out.

regards
norarg


From norarg at ...2311...  Sat Dec 12 17:59:29 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:59:29 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] LEN()
In-Reply-To: <4B23C2C7.8060003@...11...>
References: <BLU0-SMTP269BDFB5B9BC091DFB140CF98B0@...693...>
	<4B23C2C7.8060003@...11...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP100C63A7558F7F2CC8B05B4F98B0@...693...>

Simonart Dominique schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> Len() function is based on one-byte character, but some 
> characters need 2 bytes code, like the german's you mentionned.
>
> Use the String class methods and all will works as you expected
>
> HTH
> Dominique Simonart
>
> Norarg a ?crit :
>   
>> hi,
>>
>> I get a bit strange results from the LEN()-function.
>> If there are characters like the German Umlaute in the string (???????),
>> the result just does not fit. It seems to me, that LEN("?") gives back 2 
>> instead of 1,
>> is this possible?
>>
>> I fill up a string with spaces for a more (or less) formatted simple 
>> text-file,
>> the columns separated with "|".
>>
>> Using Tabs (chr(9)) gives me more work, and it would not solve this 
>> problem, because I still would have to ask for the string-lenght.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> regards
>> norarg
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>     
>
>
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>
>   


Thanks, I will give it a try :)




From bbruen at ...2308...  Sat Dec 12 22:16:12 2009
From: bbruen at ...2308... (bbb888)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:16:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  Event handler in descendent class
Message-ID: <26761203.post@...1379...>


Is there a way for a specialised class to have an event handler for an event
raised in the base class?

Specifically in this case I have a scaffolding class "workCodeTableItem"
that inherits "CodeTableItem", adds a few scaffold attributes and I have now
found that one of these attributes needs to be set in response to an event
that is raised at quite a few places in the base class.  

tia
Bruce
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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Dec 13 01:35:46 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:35:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Event handler in descendent class
In-Reply-To: <26761203.post@...1379...>
References: <26761203.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <200912130135.47003.gambas@...1...>

> Is there a way for a specialised class to have an event handler for an
>  event raised in the base class?
> 
> Specifically in this case I have a scaffolding class "workCodeTableItem"
> that inherits "CodeTableItem", adds a few scaffold attributes and I have
>  now found that one of these attributes needs to be set in response to an
>  event that is raised at quite a few places in the base class.
> 
> tia
> Bruce
> 

You must use an Observer, that allows you to intercept any event raised by any 
object.

Nota bene: events are not raise by a class, but by an object. But I think you 
just said "class" as a shortcut for "object of the class".

So look at the Observer class documentation, and tell me if you have any 
question.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From bbruen at ...2308...  Sun Dec 13 02:21:11 2009
From: bbruen at ...2308... (bbb888)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:21:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Event handler in descendent class
In-Reply-To: <200912130135.47003.gambas@...1...>
References: <26761203.post@...1379...>
	<200912130135.47003.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <26762748.post@...1379...>




Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> 
>> Is there a way for a specialised class to have an event handler for an
>>  event raised in the base class?
>> 
>> Specifically in this case I have a scaffolding class "workCodeTableItem"
>> that inherits "CodeTableItem", adds a few scaffold attributes and I have
>>  now found that one of these attributes needs to be set in response to an
>>  event that is raised at quite a few places in the base class.
>> 
>> tia
>> Bruce
>> 
> 
> You must use an Observer, that allows you to intercept any event raised by
> any 
> object.
> 
> Nota bene: events are not raise by a class, but by an object. But I think
> you 
> just said "class" as a shortcut for "object of the class".
> 
> So look at the Observer class documentation, and tell me if you have any 
> question.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
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> 

Thanks Beno?t,
Pretty simple really.
bruce
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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 03:17:02 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:17:02 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Workaround for LEN()
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1006F80AB9AA2A33EA89621F98B0@...693...>
References: <BLU0-SMTP1006F80AB9AA2A33EA89621F98B0@...693...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912121817vc83c27cwe4c27f50b978748c@...627...>

2009/12/13 Norarg <norarg at ...2311...>:

> Still it would be nice to hear from someone about this, I do not find
> this solution good. I assume it has something to do with the characterset, but I can
> not really figure it out.

Simonart Dominique: "Use the String class methods and all will works
as you expected."

http://gambasdoc.org/help/def/utf8

String.LEN()



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 04:56:06 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:56:06 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>

I've seen it somewhere, but can I find it in gb3? Nooooooooooo.

Is there a call trace window when debugging in gb3? If there is, how
do I display it?

I'm trying to debug some events and can't tell where a call to a
routine is originating from.



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 09:36:29 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:36:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>

Ok i've found the problem, so ...

i've corrected it in the last svn commit but for you just do that :

open the file at :

~/.config/gambas3/gambas3.conf

find the line : [FDebugInfo]

replace the value by : splDebug=[502,122]


then save the file

open IDE and try to do a step by step debug ... you will see the stack
backtrace list.

Fabien

2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
> I've seen it somewhere, but can I find it in gb3? Nooooooooooo.
>
> Is there a call trace window when debugging in gb3? If there is, how
> do I display it?
there is a stack :




> I'm trying to debug some events and can't tell where a call to a
> routine is originating from.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Return on Information:
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 09:37:21 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:37:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912130037n2a14c60dtb5d3a30f4c9edd4e@...627...>

2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> Ok i've found the problem, so ...
>
> i've corrected it in the last svn commit but for you just do that :
>
> open the file at :
>
> ~/.config/gambas3/gambas3.conf
>
> find the line : [FDebugInfo]
>
> replace the value by : splDebug=[502,122]
>
>
> then save the file
>
> open IDE and try to do a step by step debug ... you will see the stack
(F8)

> backtrace list.
>
> Fabien
>
> 2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
>> I've seen it somewhere, but can I find it in gb3? Nooooooooooo.
>>
>> Is there a call trace window when debugging in gb3? If there is, how
>> do I display it?
> there is a stack :
>
>
>
>
>> I'm trying to debug some events and can't tell where a call to a
>> routine is originating from.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Return on Information:
>> Google Enterprise Search pays you back
>> Get the facts.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 09:52:09 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:52:09 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912130052v546807ds4c2da49a06346aad@...627...>

2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:

> Ok i've found the problem

:)

> but for you

:)

> open the file at :
>
> ~/.config/gambas3/gambas3.conf
>
> find the line : [FDebugInfo]
>
> replace the value by : splDebug=[502,122]
>
>
> then save the file
>
> open IDE and try to do a step by step debug ... you will see the stack
> backtrace list.

Nope.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 09:53:52 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:53:52 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912130037n2a14c60dtb5d3a30f4c9edd4e@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130037n2a14c60dtb5d3a30f4c9edd4e@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912130053r43420492i7cbc2e3ff4c8814e@...627...>

2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:

> open IDE and try to do a step by step debug ... you will see the stack
> (F8)

Nope.

I'll pull the latest svn and recompile.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 10:14:47 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:14:47 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912130053r43420492i7cbc2e3ff4c8814e@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130037n2a14c60dtb5d3a30f4c9edd4e@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912130053r43420492i7cbc2e3ff4c8814e@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912130114u14986f1aie7a0fea81608805c@...627...>

2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
> 2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>
>> open IDE and try to do a step by step debug ... you will see the stack
>> (F8)
>
> Nope.
>
> I'll pull the latest svn and recompile.

Ok, rev 2490 now reconfiguring.

I still have recompile, so in the meantime:

I'm sunburnt as all buggery from the charity motorbike ride today.
This is my beast:

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007-Honda-VT1100C2ShadowSabrea.jpg

Not that you care, but I find it does help pass the time L)



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 10:15:18 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:15:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912130058l54f643cq9d068ededfa46876@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130037n2a14c60dtb5d3a30f4c9edd4e@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912130053r43420492i7cbc2e3ff4c8814e@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130058l54f643cq9d068ededfa46876@...627...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912130115n79f40836u642730055140b2d2@...627...>

but it will be not sufficient you need to reduce now the stack that
take all the slide... there is a setting bug with the splitter
controle... i need to investigate more...

The good news is when you have corrected the size, it is well saved in
the conf file.

2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> 2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
>> 2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>>
>>> open IDE and try to do a step by step debug ... you will see the stack
>>> (F8)
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> I'll pull the latest svn and recompile.
> and delete the config file too !
>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Return on Information:
>> Google Enterprise Search pays you back
>> Get the facts.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev
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>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 10:25:14 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:25:14 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912130115n79f40836u642730055140b2d2@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130037n2a14c60dtb5d3a30f4c9edd4e@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912130053r43420492i7cbc2e3ff4c8814e@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130058l54f643cq9d068ededfa46876@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130115n79f40836u642730055140b2d2@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912130125s7875229avf883149ae0ecf0c3@...627...>

2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:

> but it will be not sufficient you need to reduce now the stack that
> take all the slide... there is a setting bug with the splitter
> controle... i need to investigate more...

Ok. Happy to help.

> The good news is when you have corrected the size, it is well saved in
> the conf file.

Yes, well, all I have to do is find the window so I can resize it, hey.

>> I'll pull the latest svn and recompile.
> and delete the config file too !

Yes, I figured that :)

Now, see? Us windows lusers can adapt :)

I haven't reached  sudo make install yet.

Gawd, I'll be happy when my 4-CPU, 16GB RAM, dual 3TB RAID5 machine is
back from the workshop. Damned thing has gone through 3 motherboards
in as many months. A recompile is, <BLINK> and miss it.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 10:31:15 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:31:15 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912130115n79f40836u642730055140b2d2@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130037n2a14c60dtb5d3a30f4c9edd4e@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912130053r43420492i7cbc2e3ff4c8814e@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130058l54f643cq9d068ededfa46876@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130115n79f40836u642730055140b2d2@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912130131u24c71f51r22210f382b29fa62@...627...>

2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:

> The good news is

The good news is it worked, and I didn't bother deleting the config :)

Thank you, your help really is very much appreciated.



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 10:48:47 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:48:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912130131u24c71f51r22210f382b29fa62@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130037n2a14c60dtb5d3a30f4c9edd4e@...627...>
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2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
> 2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>
>> The good news is
>
> The good news is it worked, and I didn't bother deleting the config :)

no so good if you close the ide ... you have to resize a new time ... arf

> Thank you, your help really is very much appreciated.
>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 10:49:40 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:49:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3: Call trace in debug
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912130114u14986f1aie7a0fea81608805c@...627...>
References: <c811bd7b0912121956u3d73fe07r5307bae14d7f2103@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130036g1cabcea0x3a84428bc24c9a8@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912130037n2a14c60dtb5d3a30f4c9edd4e@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912130053r43420492i7cbc2e3ff4c8814e@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912130114u14986f1aie7a0fea81608805c@...627...>
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2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
> 2009/12/13 Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...>:
>> 2009/12/13 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>>
>>> open IDE and try to do a step by step debug ... you will see the stack
>>> (F8)
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> I'll pull the latest svn and recompile.
>
> Ok, rev 2490 now reconfiguring.
>
> I still have recompile, so in the meantime:
>
> I'm sunburnt as all buggery from the charity motorbike ride today.
> This is my beast:
>
> http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2007models/2007-Honda-VT1100C2ShadowSabrea.jpg

Pretty



> Not that you care, but I find it does help pass the time L)
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From l.alebarde2 at ...402...  Sun Dec 13 11:54:47 2009
From: l.alebarde2 at ...402... (Laurent Alebarde)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:54:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Timer
In-Reply-To: <200912111822.50056.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B227DE8.7010705@...2015...>
	<200912111822.50056.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B24C7F7.5020706@...402...>

Have a look here, it may helps you :
http://forums.genthttp://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-790101-highlight-xenomai.html


Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>> Hi,
>> I've an application that has a timer that should get fired every 1
>> second. Sometimes when the application is running and my desktop is
>> under heavy load the timer doesn't get fired in time. Despite this, my
>> expectation was that gambas would queue all this "Timer" events and they
>> would get executed as soon as it got enough free CPU time.
>> Opposed to that, gambas just discards them... i.e. If my system isn't
>> responsive for 5 seconds, after this time I won't get the Timer() method
>> called 5 times for each second where it should have been called.
>>
>> Is there a way to get the timer control working in a way that it queues
>> the due events, and they get executed even if it is later on?
>> Thanks,
>> Toni
>>
>> P.S: Using Gambas 2.18, Ubuntu 8.10 64bits
>>
>>     
>
> No, sorry: you must do it yourself.
>
> Regards,
>
>   




From math.eber at ...221...  Sun Dec 13 16:37:01 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:37:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Button not working
Message-ID: <4B250A1D.80100@...221...>

Last week, someone posted about a new form and a button "butty" not working
(don't have the mail here anymore).

This reminded me of a similar problem I once had. Could it be that the problem
was not with the code, but with another process running at the same time?

Attached, you find a tiny example (made with 2.17). When the program starts, a
loop is started, either by Form_Activate or by a Timer event. The loop has a
WAIT in it, so you can press a button and show a 2nd Form. But this one will not
react until the loop in FMain is finished. If you use ShowModal for the 2nd
Form, everything is blocked, the program goes dead.

Maybe this is a hint for the poster, and maybe someone can explain that?

Matti
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Dec 13 16:53:54 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:53:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Button not working
In-Reply-To: <4B250A1D.80100@...221...>
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with a timer ... it's less expansive in ressources



2009/12/13 Matti <math.eber at ...221...>:
> Last week, someone posted about a new form and a button "butty" not working
> (don't have the mail here anymore).
>
> This reminded me of a similar problem I once had. Could it be that the problem
> was not with the code, but with another process running at the same time?
>
> Attached, you find a tiny example (made with 2.17). When the program starts, a
> loop is started, either by Form_Activate or by a Timer event. The loop has a
> WAIT in it, so you can press a button and show a 2nd Form. But this one will not
> react until the loop in FMain is finished. If you use ShowModal for the 2nd
> Form, everything is blocked, the program goes dead.
>
> Maybe this is a hint for the poster, and maybe someone can explain that?
>
> Matti
>
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From math.eber at ...221...  Sun Dec 13 20:21:26 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:21:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Button not working
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912130753r13822528y4ee5226340460d5c@...627...>
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???
Fabien, that wasn't my question.
Run the example, and you'll know what I mean.


Fabien Bodard schrieb:
> with a timer ... it's less expansive in ressources
> 
> 
> 
> 2009/12/13 Matti <math.eber at ...221...>:
>> Last week, someone posted about a new form and a button "butty" not working
>> (don't have the mail here anymore).
>>
>> This reminded me of a similar problem I once had. Could it be that the problem
>> was not with the code, but with another process running at the same time?
>>
>> Attached, you find a tiny example (made with 2.17). When the program starts, a
>> loop is started, either by Form_Activate or by a Timer event. The loop has a
>> WAIT in it, so you can press a button and show a 2nd Form. But this one will not
>> react until the loop in FMain is finished. If you use ShowModal for the 2nd
>> Form, everything is blocked, the program goes dead.
>>
>> Maybe this is a hint for the poster, and maybe someone can explain that?
>>
>> Matti
>>
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From rterry at ...1946...  Mon Dec 14 02:29:23 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:29:23 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webview plugins
Message-ID: <200912141229.23625.rterry@...1946...>

Does anyone know how to get a flash/mplayer plugin working with webview?

Regards

Richard



From john33 at ...2339...  Sun Dec 13 04:28:26 2009
From: john33 at ...2339... (John)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:28:26 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Editor Control
Message-ID: <4B245F5A.7020601@...2339...>

I have a problem with the editor control, I set it to have a grey 
background, but if I load a file it becomes white. Is there a way that I 
can change the background color of modified lines?

If not how can I turn off ShowModifiedLines and ShowCurrentLine?

Thanks,
John



From nando_f at ...951...  Mon Dec 14 04:58:40 2009
From: nando_f at ...951... (nando)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:58:40 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Timer
In-Reply-To: <4B24C7F7.5020706@...402...>
References: <4B227DE8.7010705@...2015...>
	<200912111822.50056.gambas@...1...>
	<4B24C7F7.5020706@...402...>
Message-ID: <20091214035005.M92211@...951...>

>From using it and from Benoits previous help,
My understanding of Timer is as follows:

When the Timer is supposed to fire, it will if the Interpreter
is available to invoke the SUB with the Timer code.

If some other SUB is busy or if CPU loaded, it is not noticed..and forgotten.

What two things I have done to help this, 
If CPU loaded, run compiled program not very nice:  nice -n -7 {your program}
If you have a sub that is very long to run, split up the code in the sub
 so that it calls another sub.  This way, the interpreter works often enough.

-Fernando


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Laurent Alebarde <l.alebarde2 at ...402...>
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:54:47 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Timer

> Have a look here, it may helps you :
> http://forums.genthttp://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-790101-highlight-xenomai.html
> 
> Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> >> Hi,
> >> I've an application that has a timer that should get fired every 1
> >> second. Sometimes when the application is running and my desktop is
> >> under heavy load the timer doesn't get fired in time. Despite this, my
> >> expectation was that gambas would queue all this "Timer" events and they
> >> would get executed as soon as it got enough free CPU time.
> >> Opposed to that, gambas just discards them... i.e. If my system isn't
> >> responsive for 5 seconds, after this time I won't get the Timer() method
> >> called 5 times for each second where it should have been called.
> >>
> >> Is there a way to get the timer control working in a way that it queues
> >> the due events, and they get executed even if it is later on?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Toni
> >>
> >> P.S: Using Gambas 2.18, Ubuntu 8.10 64bits
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > No, sorry: you must do it yourself.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> 
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From franklinsolutions at ...2340...  Mon Dec 14 15:34:23 2009
From: franklinsolutions at ...2340... (Franklin Solutions Limited)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:34:23 -0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] signal SIGSEGV,
	Segmentation fault when using database example with ODDBC to a
	MSSQL Database
Message-ID: <000701ca7cca$87a13ed0$96e3bc70$@net>

Problem #11 when using ODBC to connect to a remote database running on MS
SQL Server 2000.

 

I can connect to the database and run queries using tsql from a terminal and
isql from a root terminal and I can connect using odbc in Gambas2 if the ide
is started from a root terminal but not if started from the programme
shortcut.

 

I have a small utility to run queries on a SQL server, display the results
and optionally export them as a csv file. As soon as the programme gets to
the line where the query is assigned to a Result the programme crashes with
a #11.  This behaviour is identical if running the Database Sample. The
connection is opened. connection.opened is True when tested in debug mode.
The line where the error occurs in the sample is:-

 

  rData = $hConn.Exec(txtRequest.Text)

 

which is the same as the one in my application where the programme crashes

 

PUBLIC SUB FillGrid(ctl AS Control, cnn AS Connection, sqlstr AS String)

  DIM datout AS Result, i AS Integer, j AS Integer

  

      datout = cnn.Exec(sqlstr)   The line the crash occurs

 

The version of gambas2 is 2.18.0

The kernel is Linux 2.6.31.5-127/fc12.x86_64

System is

      Memory 3.8 GiB

      Proc 0 AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core processor 5200+

      Proc 1 AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core processor 5200+

 

The query is executed as can be seen from the output from Wireshark included
after the debug output.

 

Thanks

 

Tony 

 

Debug data and Wireshark output from running the Database Sample Programme.

 

[root at ...2341... Database]# cd /usr/share/gambas2/examples/Database/Database

[root at ...2341... Database]# gbc2 -agt

OK

[root at ...2341... Database]# gdb gbx2

GNU gdb (GDB) Fedora (7.0-8.fc12)

Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
<http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>

This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.

There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"

and "show warranty" for details.

This GDB was configured as "x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu".

For bug reporting instructions, please see:

<http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>...

Reading symbols from /usr/bin/gbx2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.

Missing separate debuginfos, use: debuginfo-install
gambas2-runtime-2.18.0-1.fc12.x86_64

(gdb) set args -p

(gdb) run

Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx2 -p

[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]

 

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.

0x0000003b3a27978c in free () from /lib64/libc.so.6

(gdb) bt

#0  0x0000003b3a27978c in free () from /lib64/libc.so.6

#1  0x00000000004050f1 in sinh ()

#2  0x00007fffefe013aa in SQLDisconnect ()

   from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.odbc.so

#3  0x00007fffefe03a28 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.odbc.so

#4  0x00007ffff7408da2 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.so

#5  0x00007ffff740975f in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.so

#6  0x00007ffff74063c7 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.so

#7  0x0000000000408b32 in sinh ()

#8  0x000000000040952f in sinh ()

#9  0x000000000042eea5 in sinh ()

#10 0x0000000000409cf5 in sinh ()

#11 0x0000000000409fac in sinh ()

#12 0x000000000041c4c9 in sinh ()

#13 0x000000000041ce79 in sinh ()

#14 0x00007ffff797edca in g_io_channel_unref ()

   from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.gtk.so

#15 0x000000324020ba8e in g_closure_invoke () from
/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#16 0x0000003240220ec3 in ?? () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#17 0x0000003240222259 in g_signal_emit_valist ()

   from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#18 0x00000032402227a3 in g_signal_emit () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#19 0x000000324468d615 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---

#20 0x000000324020ba8e in g_closure_invoke () from
/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#21 0x00000032402207dc in ?? () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#22 0x0000003240222259 in g_signal_emit_valist ()

   from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#23 0x00000032402227a3 in g_signal_emit () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#24 0x000000324468be77 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

#25 0x0000003244753903 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

#26 0x000000324020ba8e in g_closure_invoke () from
/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#27 0x0000003240220b8d in ?? () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#28 0x00000032402220ec in g_signal_emit_valist ()

   from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#29 0x00000032402227a3 in g_signal_emit () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#30 0x0000003244875a9f in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

#31 0x000000324474a664 in gtk_propagate_event ()

   from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

#32 0x000000324474b7a3 in gtk_main_do_event ()

   from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

#33 0x00007ffff798c627 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.gtk.so

#34 0x000000324625f7fc in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0

#35 0x000000323fe3922e in g_main_context_dispatch ()

   from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0

#36 0x000000323fe3cc18 in ?? () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0

#37 0x000000323fe3cd3a in g_main_context_iteration ()

---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---

   from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0

#38 0x000000324474bb1d in gtk_main_iteration_do ()

   from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

#39 0x00007ffff798a85a in g_io_channel_unref ()

   from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.gtk.so

#40 0x00007ffff798aec9 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.gtk.so

#41 0x0000000000422274 in sinh ()

#42 0x0000003b3a21eb1d in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6

#43 0x0000000000403a99 in sinh ()

#44 0x00007fffffffe598 in ?? ()

#45 0x000000000000001c in ?? ()

#46 0x0000000000000002 in ?? ()

#47 0x00000000008548d8 in ?? ()

#48 0x00007fffffffe80f in ?? ()

#49 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

 

Listed below is the output from wireshark when running the same query
attached to the same remote  database using tsql from a terminal and the
gambas database sample.

 

Note to minimise the amount of data and for security reasons I have deleted
the lines on which the user name and password appear and also any lines
which consisted of all 0's.

 

Using TSQL    

0000  00 04 00 01 00 06 1e bf  ef 97 8d 0e 00 00 08 00   ........ ........
Login Packet with

0010  45 00 02 80 06 13 40 00  40 06 1e 4d 0a 08 00 07   E..... at ...1162... @..M....
lines of zeros and

0020  0a 08 00 02 db 2f 05 99  89 39 ed 79 d6 77 f1 04   ...../.. .9.y.w..
user/pwd removed

0030  80 18 00 2e 3f 2f 00 00  01 01 08 0a 00 3d ec a5   ....?/.. .....=..

0040  00 00 00 00 02 00 02 00  00 00 00 00 46 53 4c 53   ........ ....FSLS

0050  65 72 76 65 72 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   erver... ........

00a0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  04 33 37 38 37 36 00 00   ........ .37876..

00c0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05  03 01 06 0a 09 01 00 00   ........ ........

00d0  00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00  54 53 51 4c 00 00 00 00   ........ TSQL....

00e0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ........ ........

00f0  00 00 00 00 00 00 04 41  63 63 6f 75 6e 74 73 00   .......A ccounts.

0210  00 00 00 00 00 04 04 02  00 00 54 44 53 2d 4c 69   ........ ..TDS-Li

0220  62 72 61 72 0a 00 00 00  00 00 0d 11 75 73 5f 65   brar.... ....us_e

0230  6e 67 6c 69 73 68 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   nglish.. ........

0240  00 00 00 00 02 01 00 4c  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   .......L ........

0260  00 69 73 6f 5f 31 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   .iso_1.. ........

0270  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05   ........ ........

0280  01 35 31 32 00 00 00 03  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   .512.... ........

 

0000  00 00 00 01 00 06 00 ff  5a 71 3e 27 00 00 08 00   ........ Zq>'....
Response Packet

0010  45 00 00 cf 79 b5 40 00  80 06 6c 5b 0a 08 00 02   E...y. at ...1162... ..l[....

0020  0a 08 00 07 05 99 db 2f  d6 77 f1 04 89 39 ef c5   ......./ .w...9..

0030  80 18 41 8c d9 da 00 00  01 01 08 0a 00 9a 27 c4   ..A..... ......'.

0040  00 3d ec a5 04 01 00 9b  00 4b 01 00 e3 0f 00 01   .=...... .K......

0050  06 6d 61 73 74 65 72 06  6d 61 73 74 65 72 ab 39   .master. master.9

0060  00 45 16 00 00 02 00 25  00 43 68 61 6e 67 65 64   .E.....% .Changed

0070  20 64 61 74 61 62 61 73  65 20 63 6f 6e 74 65 78    databas e contex

0080  74 20 74 6f 20 27 6d 61  73 74 65 72 27 2e 08 41   t to 'ma ster'..A

0090  43 43 4f 55 4e 54 53 00  00 00 e3 09 00 03 05 69   CCOUNTS. .......i

00a0  73 6f 5f 31 01 00 ad 20  00 01 04 02 00 00 16 4d   so_1...  .......M

00b0  69 63 72 6f 73 6f 66 74  20 53 51 4c 20 53 65 72   icrosoft  SQL Ser

00c0  76 65 72 00 00 5f 08 00  ff e3 0a 00 04 03 35 31   ver.._.. ......51

00d0  32 04 34 30 39 36 fd 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00      2.4096.. ....... 

 

0000  00 04 00 01 00 06 1e bf  ef 97 8d 0e 00 00 08 00   ........ ........
Query Packey

0010  45 00 00 5a 06 15 40 00  40 06 20 71 0a 08 00 07   E..Z.. at ...1162... @. q....

0020  0a 08 00 02 db 2f 05 99  89 39 ef c5 d6 77 f1 9f   ...../.. .9...w..

0030  80 18 00 36 e1 fb 00 00  01 01 08 0a 00 3d ed 47   ...6.... .....=.G

0040  00 9a 27 c4 01 01 00 26  00 00 00 00 73 65 74 20   ..'....& ....set 

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0060  73 65 20 66 73 6c 6f 70  68 71                     se fslop hq      

 

0000  00 00 00 01 00 06 00 ff  5a 71 3e 27 00 00 08 00   ........ Zq>'....
Response Packet

0010  45 00 00 9e 79 b7 40 00  80 06 6c 8a 0a 08 00 02   E...y. at ...1162... ..l..... 

0020  0a 08 00 07 05 99 db 2f  d6 77 f1 9f 89 39 ef eb   ......./ .w...9.. 

0030  80 18 41 66 fe 02 00 00  01 01 08 0a 00 9a 27 c5   ..Af.... ......'.

0040  00 3d ed 47 04 01 00 6a  00 4b 01 00 fd 01 00 be   .=.G...j .K......

0050  00 00 00 00 00 e3 10 00  01 07 46 53 4c 4f 50 48   ........ ..FSLOPH

0060  51 06 6d 61 73 74 65 72  ab 3a 00 45 16 00 00 01   Q.master .:.E....

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0090  46 53 4c 4f 50 48 51 27  2e 08 41 43 43 4f 55 4e   FSLOPHQ' ..ACCOUN

00a0  54 53 00 01 00 fd 00 00  e2 00 00 00 00 00         TS...... ......  

 

The next query was the sql query and the data was returned

 

Using ODBC in Gambas

 

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Login Packet with 

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lines of zeros and 

0020  0a 08 00 02 96 e5 05 99  35 aa 74 ef 2a 90 12 ca   ........ 5.t.*...
user/pwd removed

0030  80 18 00 2e 0a eb 00 00  01 01 08 0a 00 46 fb 6e   ........ .....F.n

0040  00 00 00 00 02 00 02 00  00 00 00 00 46 53 4c 53   ........ ....FSLS

0050  65 72 76 65 72 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   erver... ........

00a0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  04 33 37 38 37 36 00 00   ........ .37876..

00c0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05  03 01 06 0a 09 01 00 00   ........ ........

00d0  00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ........ ........

00f0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 53  59 42 41 53 45 00 00 00   .......S YBASE...

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0270  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05   ........ ........

0280  01 35 31 32 00 00 00 03  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   .512.... ........

 

 

0000  00 04 00 01 00 06 da 45  23 65 30 14 00 00 08 00   .......E #e0.....
Query Packet

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0000  00 00 00 01 00 06 00 ff  5a 71 3e 27 00 00 08 00   ........ Zq>'....
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0020  0a 08 00 07 05 99 96 e5  2a 90 13 65 35 aa 77 63   ........ *..e5.wc

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0050  00 00 00 00 00 e3 10 00  01 07 46 53 4c 4f 50 48   ........ ..FSLOPH

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Additional query packet compared to tsql

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Query Packet

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0000  00 00 00 01 00 06 00 ff  5a 71 3e 27 00 00 08 00   ........ Zq>'....
Response Packet

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0040  00 73 07 37 04 01 00 11  00 45 01 00 fd 00 00 ba   .s.7.... .E......

0050  00 00 00 00 00                                     .....    

 

The next packet was the sql query identical to the tsql one and the
responses (4 packets) were

also identical.

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From klaine8 at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 16:32:39 2009
From: klaine8 at ...626... (Kari Laine)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:32:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
Message-ID: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>

Hi,

I have already done little billing program for my parents little firm.
It was a learning exercise. It would make a big help to get little
companies to move to Linux if there was a financial program that run
on Linux and would be free. There comes in Gambas.

Is there already an GPLed financial program made with Gambas?
If not is someone having different parts of a system willing to donate
source code under GPL?

My billing program is so horrible that in it's condition I don't want
to show it's sources to anyone... it was my first Gambas program...

Why Gambas would be extra value for this kind of a project.? Gambas is
easy language and integrated editor makes it very easy to implement
user interface. Speed and other things which are good in C or C++ are
not so important. Naturally someone says Python would be way to go but
I find it more difficult than Gambas. Idea is that regular Joe with
little experimenting could change the program.

Best Regards
Kari

-- 
PIC - ARM - Microcontrollers - I2C - SPI
Keypads - USB-RS232 - USB-I2C - Accessories
http://www.byvac.com
I am just a happy customer



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 17:03:15 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:03:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912140803q3859e515u1810b4f648f0a149@...627...>

you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/

but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french
(Gb2)




2009/12/14 Kari Laine <klaine8 at ...626...>:
> Hi,
>
> I have already done little billing program for my parents little firm.
> It was a learning exercise. It would make a big help to get little
> companies to move to Linux if there was a financial program that run
> on Linux and would be free. There comes in Gambas.
>
> Is there already an GPLed financial program made with Gambas?
> If not is someone having different parts of a system willing to donate
> source code under GPL?
>
> My billing program is so horrible that in it's condition I don't want
> to show it's sources to anyone... it was my first Gambas program...
>
> Why Gambas would be extra value for this kind of a project.? Gambas is
> easy language and integrated editor makes it very easy to implement
> user interface. Speed and other things which are good in C or C++ are
> not so important. Naturally someone says Python would be way to go but
> I find it more difficult than Gambas. Idea is that regular Joe with
> little experimenting could change the program.
>
> Best Regards
> Kari
>
> --
> PIC - ARM - Microcontrollers - I2C - SPI
> Keypads - USB-RS232 - USB-I2C - Accessories
> http://www.byvac.com
> I am just a happy customer
>
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From john33 at ...2339...  Mon Dec 14 17:22:16 2009
From: john33 at ...2339... (John)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:22:16 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Editor control
Message-ID: <4B266638.9080804@...2339...>

I have a problem with the editor control, I set it to have a grey 
background, but if I load a file it becomes white. Is there a way that I 
can change the background color for modified lines and the current line?

If not how can I turn off ShowModifiedLines and ShowCurrentLine?

Thanks,
John

Note: I sent this same message yesterday to the list, I am only 
resending it  because the date was wrong on my computer which would bury 
that message on most email clients.


From 12ukwn at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 17:24:00 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:24:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912140803q3859e515u1810b4f648f0a149@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912140803q3859e515u1810b4f648f0a149@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B2666A0.4030206@...626...>

Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/
> 
> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french
> (Gb2)

BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of postgresql or python decimal(n,n)
into GB3?
It would be *very* interesting (otherwise you have to filter every line 
through Format$)

JY
-- 
My rackets are run on strictly American lines, and they're going to
stay that way.
		-- Al Capone



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 17:38:05 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:38:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B2666A0.4030206@...626...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
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	<4B2666A0.4030206@...626...>
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i've bookmarked the pyton page ... this is an interesting thing but
... always the time problem ...



2009/12/14 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>:
> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
>> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/
>>
>> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
>> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french
>> (Gb2)
>
> BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of postgresql or python decimal(n,n)
> into GB3?
> It would be *very* interesting (otherwise you have to filter every line
> through Format$)
>
> JY
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> stay that way.
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From wdahn at ...1000...  Mon Dec 14 17:55:11 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:55:11 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B266DEF.4010305@...1000...>

On 14/12/09 23:32, Kari Laine wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have already done little billing program for my parents little firm.
> It was a learning exercise. It would make a big help to get little
> companies to move to Linux if there was a financial program that run
> on Linux and would be free. There comes in Gambas.
>
> Is there already an GPLed financial program made with Gambas?
> If not is someone having different parts of a system willing to donate
> source code under GPL?
>
> My billing program is so horrible that in it's condition I don't want
> to show it's sources to anyone... it was my first Gambas program...
>
> Why Gambas would be extra value for this kind of a project.? Gambas is
> easy language and integrated editor makes it very easy to implement
> user interface. Speed and other things which are good in C or C++ are
> not so important. Naturally someone says Python would be way to go but
> I find it more difficult than Gambas. Idea is that regular Joe with
> little experimenting could change the program.
>
> Best Regards
> Kari
>
>   
There is Quasar from Linux Canada. It is very similar to MYOB. Their
last GPL version is 1.4.7, I think. After that they went sort of
proprietary(Note1) but the documentation of how to hook into the new
version database is exemplary. We use 1.4.7, mostly the inventory
control part which is excellent. In this version the reporting bits are
suboptimal but the rest is fine.
We use  it since around 2002, using mostly the inventory control part.
The mailing list support is excellent. I had studied their source code.
It is extremely well written, I learned a lot from it.

If you think you can write a decent accounting program in 3 man months
you don't know what the task is.
If you think you can write a decent accounting program in 3 man years
you may have something fairly basic to show but only if you got your
priorities right.
Accounting programs are very much underestimated.

You might just want to hook into what's there and be efficient. The
interface is well documented.

Regards

Werner

Note 1: If I recall it properly it was after someone claimed their
software was actually his



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Dec 14 18:05:48 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:05:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B2666A0.4030206@...626...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912140803q3859e515u1810b4f648f0a149@...627...>
	<4B2666A0.4030206@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912141805.48284.gambas@...1...>

> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> > you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/
> >
> > but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
> > programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french
> > (Gb2)
> 
> BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of postgresql or python decimal(n,n)
> into GB3?
> It would be *very* interesting (otherwise you have to filter every line
> through Format$)
> 
> JY
> 

You mean a fixed-point decimal datatype? Or a currency datatype?

It cannot be done in Gambas 3. So, in Gambas 4 ?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From klaine8 at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 18:22:02 2009
From: klaine8 at ...626... (Kari Laine)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:22:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B266DEF.4010305@...1000...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<4B266DEF.4010305@...1000...>
Message-ID: <61452b690912140922l4acc434cq5a3bd357578f500c@...627...>

Hi,
> There is Quasar from Linux Canada. It is very similar to MYOB. Their
> last GPL version is 1.4.7, I think.

Do you have the source for the GPL version. I visited their site and
couldn't find it.


> If you think you can write a decent accounting program in 3 man months
> you don't know what the task is.
> If you think you can write a decent accounting program in 3 man years
> you may have something fairly basic to show but only if you got your
> priorities right.
I always have my priorities wrong ... I am right now swamped. But
I was more on the line what exists and could be modified for Finnish market.
And idea was also that I wouldn't have to do everything myself.

> Accounting programs are very much underestimated.
I agree.

Best Regards
Kari











-- 
PIC - ARM - Microcontrollers - I2C - SPI
Keypads - USB-RS232 - USB-I2C - Accessories
http://www.byvac.com
I am just a happy customer



From klaine8 at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 18:24:23 2009
From: klaine8 at ...626... (Kari Laine)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:24:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912140803q3859e515u1810b4f648f0a149@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912140803q3859e515u1810b4f648f0a149@...627...>
Message-ID: <61452b690912140924s6286d189r9588c9287d23b352@...627...>

Hi,

thanks

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/
>
> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french
> (Gb2)
>

I don't read a single word French so I have to pass. It would be too
difficult for me to adapt.


Best Regards
Kari



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Dec 14 18:25:57 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:25:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Editor control
In-Reply-To: <4B266638.9080804@...2339...>
References: <4B266638.9080804@...2339...>
Message-ID: <200912141825.57039.gambas@...1...>

> I have a problem with the editor control, I set it to have a grey
> background, but if I load a file it becomes white. Is there a way that I
> can change the background color for modified lines and the current line?

Do you use Gambas 3 ? Do you use the latest revision ?

> 
> If not how can I turn off ShowModifiedLines and ShowCurrentLine?

Editor.Flags[Editor.ShowModifiedLines] = False
Editor.Flags[Editor.ShowCurrentLine] = False

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From 12ukwn at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 18:26:29 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:26:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <200912141805.48284.gambas@...1...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<6324a42a0912140803q3859e515u1810b4f648f0a149@...627...>	<4B2666A0.4030206@...626...>
	<200912141805.48284.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B267545.6080205@...626...>

Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
>>> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/
>>>
>>> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
>>> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french
>>> (Gb2)
>> BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of postgresql or python decimal(n,n)
>> into GB3?
>> It would be *very* interesting (otherwise you have to filter every line
>> through Format$)
>>
>> JY
>>
> 
> You mean a fixed-point decimal datatype? Or a currency datatype?

A fixed-point decimal
 
> It cannot be done in Gambas 3. So, in Gambas 4 ?

Hu?
That's too bad because it is needed to ease accounting purposes.

-- 
Antique fairy tale: Little Red Riding Hood.
Modern fairy tale: Oswald, acting alone, shot Kennedy.



From 12ukwn at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 18:36:47 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:36:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <61452b690912140924s6286d189r9588c9287d23b352@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<6324a42a0912140803q3859e515u1810b4f648f0a149@...627...>
	<61452b690912140924s6286d189r9588c9287d23b352@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B2677AF.3040409@...626...>

Kari Laine a ?crit :
> Hi,
> 
> thanks
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
>> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/
>>
>> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
>> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french
>> (Gb2)
>>
> 
> I don't read a single word French so I have to pass. It would be too
> difficult for me to adapt.

You can take a look at sql-ledger that implements a double-entry
accounting with many accounting plans (but it is written in perl...)

-- 
A man without a woman is like a fish without gills.



From wdahn at ...1000...  Mon Dec 14 18:48:23 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:48:23 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <61452b690912140922l4acc434cq5a3bd357578f500c@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<4B266DEF.4010305@...1000...>
	<61452b690912140922l4acc434cq5a3bd357578f500c@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B267A67.3060806@...1000...>

On 15/12/09 01:22, Kari Laine wrote:
> Hi,
>   
>> There is Quasar from Linux Canada. It is very similar to MYOB. Their
>> last GPL version is 1.4.7, I think.
>>     
> Do you have the source for the GPL version. I visited their site and
> couldn't find it.
>
>
>   
>> If you think you can write a decent accounting program in 3 man months
>> you don't know what the task is.
>> If you think you can write a decent accounting program in 3 man years
>> you may have something fairly basic to show but only if you got your
>> priorities right.
>>     
> I always have my priorities wrong ... I am right now swamped. But
> I was more on the line what exists and could be modified for Finnish market.
> And idea was also that I wouldn't have to do everything myself.
>
>   
>> Accounting programs are very much underestimated.
>>     
> I agree.
>
> Best Regards
> Kari
>
> It's here:
>   
ftp://www.linuxcanada.com/pub/Quasar/1.4.7/
I hope to have conveyed: They are very decent people and it is brilliant
software.

Regards
Werner




From girardhenri at ...67...  Mon Dec 14 19:54:45 2009
From: girardhenri at ...67... (girardhenri at ...67...)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:54:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
Message-ID: <COL122-DS188437FBFF2719A2C38484BC890@...693...>

You have the wonderfull accounting programm www.laurus.fr
Here you have some :

http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html

enjoy :)
Henri
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kari Laine" <klaine8 at ...626...>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:32 PM
To: <Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program

> Hi,
>
> I have already done little billing program for my parents little firm.
> It was a learning exercise. It would make a big help to get little
> companies to move to Linux if there was a financial program that run
> on Linux and would be free. There comes in Gambas.
>
> Is there already an GPLed financial program made with Gambas?
> If not is someone having different parts of a system willing to donate
> source code under GPL?
>
> My billing program is so horrible that in it's condition I don't want
> to show it's sources to anyone... it was my first Gambas program...
>
> Why Gambas would be extra value for this kind of a project.? Gambas is
> easy language and integrated editor makes it very easy to implement
> user interface. Speed and other things which are good in C or C++ are
> not so important. Naturally someone says Python would be way to go but
> I find it more difficult than Gambas. Idea is that regular Joe with
> little experimenting could change the program.
>
> Best Regards
> Kari
>
> -- 
> PIC - ARM - Microcontrollers - I2C - SPI
> Keypads - USB-RS232 - USB-I2C - Accessories
> http://www.byvac.com
> I am just a happy customer
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Return on Information:
> Google Enterprise Search pays you back
> Get the facts.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev
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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Dec 14 20:49:08 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:49:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B267545.6080205@...626...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<200912141805.48284.gambas@...1...>
	<4B267545.6080205@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912142049.08977.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> >> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> >>> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/
> >>>
> >>> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
> >>> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french
> >>> (Gb2)
> >>
> >> BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of postgresql or python
> >> decimal(n,n) into GB3?
> >> It would be *very* interesting (otherwise you have to filter every line
> >> through Format$)
> >>
> >> JY
> >
> > You mean a fixed-point decimal datatype? Or a currency datatype?
> 
> A fixed-point decimal
> 
> > It cannot be done in Gambas 3. So, in Gambas 4 ?
> 
> Hu?
> That's too bad because it is needed to ease accounting purposes.
> 

Why not storing currencies in cents, or fraction of cents, with a Long 
datatype?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ajw4me at ...466...  Mon Dec 14 21:19:39 2009
From: ajw4me at ...466... (Tony)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:19:39 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B269DDB.3090309@...466...>

Kari Laine wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have already done little billing program for my parents little firm.
> It was a learning exercise. It would make a big help to get little
> companies to move to Linux if there was a financial program that run
> on Linux and would be free. There comes in Gambas.
>
> Is there already an GPLed financial program made with Gambas?
> If not is someone having different parts of a system willing to donate
> source code under GPL?
>
> My billing program is so horrible that in it's condition I don't want
> to show it's sources to anyone... it was my first Gambas program...
>
> Why Gambas would be extra value for this kind of a project.? Gambas is
> easy language and integrated editor makes it very easy to implement
> user interface. Speed and other things which are good in C or C++ are
> not so important. Naturally someone says Python would be way to go but
> I find it more difficult than Gambas. Idea is that regular Joe with
> little experimenting could change the program.
>
> Best Regards
> Kari
>
>   
Hi,

Whilst obviously not written in Gambas, I've been using GnuCash for 
personal accounting for some time. The double entry bit and UI are a 
little clunky for my basic needs, but in the end it works. I'm think you 
can use it for billing and you can tailor reports etc in guile, so it 
may be worth a look. Source code should be available since it is GPL.

Tony..



From 12ukwn at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 21:26:07 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:26:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <200912142049.08977.gambas@...1...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<200912141805.48284.gambas@...1...>	<4B267545.6080205@...626...>
	<200912142049.08977.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B269F5F.4050207@...626...>

Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>> Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>>>> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
>>>>> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/
>>>>>
>>>>> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
>>>>> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french
>>>>> (Gb2)
>>>> BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of postgresql or python
>>>> decimal(n,n) into GB3?
>>>> It would be *very* interesting (otherwise you have to filter every line
>>>> through Format$)
>>>>
>>>> JY
>>> You mean a fixed-point decimal datatype? Or a currency datatype?
>> A fixed-point decimal
>>
>>> It cannot be done in Gambas 3. So, in Gambas 4 ?
>> Hu?
>> That's too bad because it is needed to ease accounting purposes.
>>
> 
> Why not storing currencies in cents, or fraction of cents, with a Long 
> datatype?
 
No, this is the best way to make mistakes (ie: invoice hardware with
2 decimals, but invoice telephone seconds with 8 & connections w/ 3 or 4
on the same invoice, oeuf corse).

Format$ is not very useful because of conversions it involves.

Using integer arithmetics is muuuch tooo slooow.

So the less worse is still Format$.

-- 
Mieux vaut tard que jamais!
[ Better late than never ]



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Dec 14 21:45:09 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:45:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B269F5F.4050207@...626...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<200912142049.08977.gambas@...1...>
	<4B269F5F.4050207@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912142145.09382.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> >> Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> >>>> Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> >>>>> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning
> >>>>> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in
> >>>>> french (Gb2)
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of postgresql or python
> >>>> decimal(n,n) into GB3?
> >>>> It would be *very* interesting (otherwise you have to filter every
> >>>> line through Format$)
> >>>>
> >>>> JY
> >>>
> >>> You mean a fixed-point decimal datatype? Or a currency datatype?
> >>
> >> A fixed-point decimal
> >>
> >>> It cannot be done in Gambas 3. So, in Gambas 4 ?
> >>
> >> Hu?
> >> That's too bad because it is needed to ease accounting purposes.
> >
> > Why not storing currencies in cents, or fraction of cents, with a Long
> > datatype?
> 
> No, this is the best way to make mistakes (ie: invoice hardware with
> 2 decimals, but invoice telephone seconds with 8 & connections w/ 3 or 4
> on the same invoice, oeuf corse).
> 
> Format$ is not very useful because of conversions it involves.
> 
> Using integer arithmetics is muuuch tooo slooow.
> 
> So the less worse is still Format$.
> 

I think you are mixing a lot of different things:

- When storing a amount of money in memory, you store it in a Long integer in 
1/10th of cents. For example, storing 1234,56? will be stored as 1234560.

- When displaying an amount of money, you use Format$(), or your own function.

- When getting an amount of money from the user, you have to convert a string 
into an amount of 1/10th of cents.

- When getting an amount of money from the outside, or exporting an amount of 
money to the outside, you must use an standard exchange format based on a 
string.

So I don't see any problem with that. Why are you talking about telephone 
seconds? We are talking about money, aren't we? Or there is something I didn't 
understand?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From john33 at ...2339...  Mon Dec 14 22:09:05 2009
From: john33 at ...2339... (John)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:09:05 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Editor control
In-Reply-To: <200912141825.57039.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B266638.9080804@...2339...>
	<200912141825.57039.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B26A971.9090708@...2339...>


> Do you use Gambas 3 ? Do you use the latest revision ?
>
>    
That would have been useful information to add, sorry. I tried both 
Gambas 2.18 and Gambas 3 svn (updated today).
> Editor.Flags[Editor.ShowModifiedLines] = False
> Editor.Flags[Editor.ShowCurrentLine] = False
>
> Regards,
>
>    
That is what I was using, sorry if I am missing something basic.

Here is what I tried, FMain has an Editor control named Editor1 and in the
Form_Open Sub ()
   Editor1.Text = File.Load("test.txt")
   Editor1.Flags[Editor.ShowModifiedLines] = False
   Editor1.Flags[Editor.ShowCurrentLine] = False
End

I wasn't sure if I needed Editor1.Reset, but tried it.

Also I copied the Highlight example and tried to turn off 
ShowModifiedLines, still can't make it work. As soon as it loads a file 
the Editor1 background becomes white.

Thanks,
John




From gambas at ...1...  Mon Dec 14 22:39:00 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:39:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Editor control
In-Reply-To: <4B26A971.9090708@...2339...>
References: <4B266638.9080804@...2339...>
	<200912141825.57039.gambas@...1...>
	<4B26A971.9090708@...2339...>
Message-ID: <200912142239.00247.gambas@...1...>

> > Do you use Gambas 3 ? Do you use the latest revision ?
> 
> That would have been useful information to add, sorry. I tried both
> Gambas 2.18 and Gambas 3 svn (updated today).
> 
> > Editor.Flags[Editor.ShowModifiedLines] = False
> > Editor.Flags[Editor.ShowCurrentLine] = False
> >
> > Regards,
> 
> That is what I was using, sorry if I am missing something basic.
> 
> Here is what I tried, FMain has an Editor control named Editor1 and in the
> Form_Open Sub ()
>    Editor1.Text = File.Load("test.txt")
>    Editor1.Flags[Editor.ShowModifiedLines] = False
>    Editor1.Flags[Editor.ShowCurrentLine] = False
> End
> 
> I wasn't sure if I needed Editor1.Reset, but tried it.
> 
> Also I copied the Highlight example and tried to turn off
> ShowModifiedLines, still can't make it work. As soon as it loads a file
> the Editor1 background becomes white.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 

As for the background color, the Editor actually does not use it, it uses the 
background color defined in the highlighting style.

So: Editor1.Styles[Highlight.Background].Background = Color.Yellow

As for the flags, there are all off by default, so I don't understand why you 
want to set them off again.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From john33 at ...2339...  Mon Dec 14 23:08:49 2009
From: john33 at ...2339... (John)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:08:49 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Editor control
In-Reply-To: <200912142239.00247.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B266638.9080804@...2339...>
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I thought that the Flags must have been on by default, with the 
highlight property set to none the background color changed when a line 
was modified. Thank you so much for straightening me out Beno?t.

> As for the background color, the Editor actually does not use it, it uses the
> background color defined in the highlighting style.
>
> So: Editor1.Styles[Highlight.Background].Background = Color.Yellow
>
> As for the flags, there are all off by default, so I don't understand why you
> want to set them off again.
>
> Regards,
>
>    




From math.eber at ...221...  Mon Dec 14 23:31:50 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:31:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial Program
Message-ID: <4B26BCD6.8080706@...221...>

1. "Accounting programs are very much underestimated."
That's true, indeed.
I know a lot of people who thought that accounting was a minor matter, bought
some program and did something not knowing what they did.
They all got big problems with the tax authorities.

2. Writing an accounting program is even worse.
In accounting, there are so many VAT and income tax questions involved (that
change almost daily). If you write an accounting program, you *really* have to
know all the tax backgrounds.
Which are different from country to country, of course.

Beware!

Matti



From 12ukwn at ...626...  Mon Dec 14 23:41:28 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:41:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <200912142145.09382.gambas@...1...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<200912142049.08977.gambas@...1...>	<4B269F5F.4050207@...626...>
	<200912142145.09382.gambas@...1...>
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Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
...
> I think you are mixing a lot of different things:
> 
> - When storing a amount of money in memory, you store it in a Long integer in 
> 1/10th of cents. For example, storing 1234,56? will be stored as 123456

I'm gonna test that, but it implies more load of the DB server side to
convert from one format to the other.

> - When displaying an amount of money, you use Format$(), or your own function.
> 
> - When getting an amount of money from the user, you have to convert a string 
> into an amount of 1/10th of cents.
> 
> - When getting an amount of money from the outside, or exporting an amount of 
> money to the outside, you must use an standard exchange format based on a 
> string.

This is not acceptable: DB must be able to directly process numbers, 
not to loose 95% of the time to convert a string to a number and
vice versa (many of my process aren't done by GB but into stored 
procedures)

> So I don't see any problem with that. Why are you talking about telephone 
> seconds? We are talking about money, aren't we? Or there is something I didn't 
> understand?

Yep, but some amounts can have many more decimals than others (in telephony,
seconds are usually invoiced with @ least 6 decimals and sometimes 8), so 
mixing that with other number of decimals isn't easy.

This is why definable decimals numbers are so important.

-- 
Q:	How do you keep a moron in suspense?



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Dec 15 00:01:41 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:01:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B26BF18.6060501@...626...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<200912142145.09382.gambas@...1...>
	<4B26BF18.6060501@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912150001.41378.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> ...
> 
> > I think you are mixing a lot of different things:
> >
> > - When storing a amount of money in memory, you store it in a Long
> > integer in 1/10th of cents. For example, storing 1234,56? will be stored
> > as 123456
> 
> I'm gonna test that, but it implies more load of the DB server side to
> convert from one format to the other.
> 
> > - When displaying an amount of money, you use Format$(), or your own
> > function.
> >
> > - When getting an amount of money from the user, you have to convert a
> > string into an amount of 1/10th of cents.
> >
> > - When getting an amount of money from the outside, or exporting an
> > amount of money to the outside, you must use an standard exchange format
> > based on a string.
> 
> This is not acceptable: DB must be able to directly process numbers,
> not to loose 95% of the time to convert a string to a number and
> vice versa (many of my process aren't done by GB but into stored
> procedures)
> 

"Outside" means "out of your control", or "out of the program internals". If 
it is a stored procedure you wrote, it will manipulate the integer values 
directly of course. But if you have to send or receive currencies from another 
program, you must use a standard exchange format.

> > So I don't see any problem with that. Why are you talking about telephone
> > seconds? We are talking about money, aren't we? Or there is something I
> > didn't understand?
> 
> Yep, but some amounts can have many more decimals than others (in
>  telephony, seconds are usually invoiced with @ least 6 decimals and
>  sometimes 8), so mixing that with other number of decimals isn't easy.
> 
> This is why definable decimals numbers are so important.
> 

Again we are talking about currencies. What's the matter with telephony 
seconds? If you want to say that you have to store 1/1000th of cents, ro more, 
just choose a more precise format. With a Long datatype and using 1/1000000th 
of currency unit (!), you can store up to 4,6 x 10^12 units. That should be 
enough.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ronstk at ...239...  Tue Dec 15 00:36:32 2009
From: ronstk at ...239... (Ron_1st)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:36:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B26BF18.6060501@...626...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<200912142145.09382.gambas@...1...>
	<4B26BF18.6060501@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912150036.33074.ronstk@...239...>

On Monday 14 December 2009, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote:
> Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> ...
> > I think you are mixing a lot of different things:
> > 
> > - When storing a amount of money in memory, you store it in a Long integer in 
> > 1/10th of cents. For example, storing 1234,56? will be stored as 123456
> 
> I'm gonna test that, but it implies more load of the DB server side to
> convert from one format to the other.

It is not a matter of the DB server to calculate.
Its the presentation only, the matter of the frontend program.
Adding integers a amount in 1/10th of cents stored is more quick then
adding floating point numbers that must be handled to and back from the co-processor. 

In fact your gambas program does not use that co-proc but a library to do
the job in software in most cases. 
Only special programs handle this arithmetic direct to the co-proc.


> 
> > - When displaying an amount of money, you use Format$(), or your own function.
> > 
> > - When getting an amount of money from the user, you have to convert a string 
> > into an amount of 1/10th of cents.
> > 
> > - When getting an amount of money from the outside, or exporting an amount of 
> > money to the outside, you must use an standard exchange format based on a 
> > string.
> 
> This is not acceptable: DB must be able to directly process numbers, 
> not to loose 95% of the time to convert a string to a number and
> vice versa (many of my process aren't done by GB but into stored 
> procedures)

A DB server is _just_ losing time if the numbers are in floats and not in integer.
It have to first normalize the numbers before it can do the arithmetics.
And I'm almost on safe that it also _just_ use a slow library instead of the co-proc.

> 
> > So I don't see any problem with that. Why are you talking about telephone 
> > seconds? We are talking about money, aren't we? Or there is something I didn't 
> > understand?
> 
> Yep, but some amounts can have many more decimals than others (in telephony,
> seconds are usually invoiced with @ least 6 decimals and sometimes 8), so 
> mixing that with other number of decimals isn't easy.

Almost every accounting program works with at least 8 decimals for the fractional part.
Only at the last step, the presentation the rounding to 2 decimals for currency is/should done.

> 
> This is why definable decimals numbers are so important.
> 
I do agree it can be handy to have but there is no absolute need. 
However if we talking about scientific calculations then it would/can 
be a complete different case.

In my view a database is for storage  of information/numbers. 
The handling/calculation of the stored data is the job for the end application.

In my good old times I made some floating point programs on a Z80 CPU.
No support for floats or co-procs available (or acceptable price).
I did just what Benoit suggest and worked with 1/100 of a cent and
at the last step the round to 2 decimals in Dutch Giuilder. 
Later I got a request to implement the co-proc and the customer 
was disapointed about the drop in speed as result.
The max bit size was 16 bit for add/subtract so I had to make
my own routines for 4 times 16 bit wide. Was interesting job to do.


Anyway I feel a bit with your for the request. 
It can make simple apps more ease to develop.

Best regards,

Ron_1st

-- 

111.111111 x 111.111111 = 12345.678987654321





From ronstk at ...239...  Tue Dec 15 00:38:35 2009
From: ronstk at ...239... (Ron_1st)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:38:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <200912150001.41378.gambas@...1...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<4B26BF18.6060501@...626...>
	<200912150001.41378.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912150038.35368.ronstk@...239...>

On Tuesday 15 December 2009, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Again we are talking about currencies. What's the matter with telephony 
> seconds? If you want to say that you have to store 1/1000th of cents, ro more, 
> just choose a more precise format. With a Long datatype and using 1/1000000th 
> of currency unit (!), you can store up to 4,6 x 10^12 units. That should be 
> enough.
> 

Thanks for the calculation. I hope never have to pay that amount :) :) 

Best regards,

Ron_1st

-- 

111.111111 x 111.111111 = 12345.678987654321




From nando_f at ...951...  Tue Dec 15 01:07:01 2009
From: nando_f at ...951... (nando)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:07:01 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <200912150038.35368.ronstk@...239...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<4B26BF18.6060501@...626...>
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My contribution to this conversation is..
Always INT or LONG for money.
Keep a global variable to divide by (for example 2 decimal places) 100
when printing/displaying things to humans...
-OR- to take the string and insert a period for cents (North America)
Make a really nice SUB to return a formatted string is good.
It is the utmost importance not to use FLOAT from the beginning
because calculations will be wrong after a while and it will not balance.
You will have headaches!!!

-Fernando


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To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:38:35 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

> On Tuesday 15 December 2009, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > Again we are talking about currencies. What's the matter with telephony 
> > seconds? If you want to say that you have to store 1/1000th of cents, ro more, 
> > just choose a more precise format. With a Long datatype and using 1/1000000th 
> > of currency unit (!), you can store up to 4,6 x 10^12 units. That should be 
> > enough.
> >
> 
> Thanks for the calculation. I hope never have to pay that amount :) :)
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Ron_1st
> 
> --
> 
> 111.111111 x 111.111111 = 12345.678987654321
> 
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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec 15 08:19:42 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:19:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <20091215000120.M69324@...951...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<4B26BF18.6060501@...626...>	<200912150001.41378.gambas@...1...>	<200912150038.35368.ronstk@...239...>
	<20091215000120.M69324@...951...>
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nando ha scritto:
> My contribution to this conversation is..
> Always INT or LONG for money.
> Keep a global variable to divide by (for example 2 decimal places) 100
> when printing/displaying things to humans...
> -OR- to take the string and insert a period for cents (North America)
> Make a really nice SUB to return a formatted string is good.
> It is the utmost importance not to use FLOAT from the beginning
> because calculations will be wrong after a while and it will not balance.
> You will have headaches!!!
>   
You are perfectly true. It seems that floating point does not like base 
10 numbers... :-)

But here comes in place the power of a programming language; a good 
language is a wrapper around bad or annoying things. All we love gambas 
because it is easy to construct user interface. But there would be no 
necessity of its power - one can write external functions and interface 
to X11 directly...

So when you tell me "don't use floats for accounting" I agree. When you 
say "use a global variable to divide", "insert a decimal point" and so 
on, I think "100% of gambas users want to use graphical interfaces, 
while only 2% of them want to use financial capabilities. So, that 2% 
must live with a language not very suitable for accounting". "Use long 
integers, divide them, use format$()..." is the reply from Benoit. Does 
someone remember the Cobol? With a simple declaration "picture 99.9999" 
it created a datatype and managed all the roundings and conversions on 
that datatype; this was the power of that language. I don't say that 
gambas should implement this, but it would not hurt... it is a matter of 
choice; I understand that this kind of things is difficult to implement 
(or, who knows... with OO programming... but the really hard part is the 
mixing of different types in the same expression).

The most important application I've written with gambas is something 
similar to a financial one. I faced problems with gridviews, tableviews, 
formats, roundings... all the things we are speaking about just now, and 
they are not yet fully solved. I think that the way you describe is a 
hard work, even if it is the only possible at the moment.

Regards,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From 12ukwn at ...626...  Tue Dec 15 09:32:12 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:32:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B27388E.8060203@...1909...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<4B26BF18.6060501@...626...>	<200912150001.41378.gambas@...1...>	<200912150038.35368.ronstk@...239...>	<20091215000120.M69324@...951...>
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Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
...
> while only 2% of them want to use financial capabilities. So, that 2% 
> must live with a language not very suitable for accounting". "Use long 
> integers, divide them, use format$()..." is the reply from Benoit. Does 
> someone remember the Cobol? With a simple declaration "picture 99.9999" 
> it created a datatype and managed all the roundings and conversions on 
> that datatype; this was the power of that language. I don't say that 

Don't burry Cobol too fast: for banking *only*, this year will be around
5 milliards Cobol written lines (progression is an avg of 14% per year).

This kinda feature was also stollen from Cobol to be used in dBase, 
which was a great boost for DBs into programming world.

> gambas should implement this, but it would not hurt... it is a matter of 
> choice; I understand that this kind of things is difficult to implement 
> (or, who knows... with OO programming... but the really hard part is the 
> mixing of different types in the same expression).

I totally agree: this also would make the difference between a nice GUI
maker and a mature graphical language.
That's what I was trying to explain (with no such fortune though.)

> The most important application I've written with gambas is something 
> similar to a financial one. I faced problems with gridviews, tableviews, 

Yeah: THIS is why I don't wanna store other things than decimal(n,n);
furthermore, the more you have transformations the less chances you 
have to avoid bugs (especially sneaky ones).

> formats, roundings... all the things we are speaking about just now, and 
> they are not yet fully solved. I think that the way you describe is a 
> hard work, even if it is the only possible at the moment.

I totally Dorianonize :D

JY
-- 
Law of Probable Dispersal:
	Whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec 15 10:19:52 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:19:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B27498C.4090403@...626...>
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Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto:
> Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
> ...
>   
>> while only 2% of them want to use financial capabilities. So, that 2% 
>> must live with a language not very suitable for accounting". "Use long 
>> integers, divide them, use format$()..." is the reply from Benoit. Does 
>> someone remember the Cobol? With a simple declaration "picture 99.9999" 
>> it created a datatype and managed all the roundings and conversions on 
>> that datatype; this was the power of that language. I don't say that 
>>     
>
> Don't burry Cobol too fast: for banking *only*, this year will be around
> 5 milliards Cobol written lines (progression is an avg of 14% per year).
>   
This is a proof that well designed things get a long life. Ok, cobol was 
invented exactly for that purpose - sadness is that nobody else seem to 
care much about those good things. And money is the gas (citation from a 
popular rock song :-)) of the world...
>> gambas should implement this, but it would not hurt... it is a matter of 
>> choice; I understand that this kind of things is difficult to implement 
>> (or, who knows... with OO programming... but the really hard part is the 
>> mixing of different types in the same expression).
>>     
>
> I totally agree: this also would make the difference between a nice GUI
> maker and a mature graphical language.
> That's what I was trying to explain (with no such fortune though.)
>   
You was more lucky than me, because you was replied "perhaps in gambas 
4"; when was my turn to ask, Benoit replied "I will not implement 
currency type in gambas". Stop. What an irony... someone who hates money 
and financial programs (me) has to be knocked down for a request about 
currency...

But on the side of the possible implementation in gambas, it is a really 
hard work. I thought a little about the question, not necessarily to 
propose changes in gambas, but to solve the problems in my application. 
A new class, which does rounding and formatting could work. Something 
like "dim subtotal as new currency(4,3)" would instantiate a variable 
with three decimals, stored as a long integer. "subtotal.picture" would 
return a string representation, "subtotal.picture(12)" would return a 
space-leaded string of 12 characters, with the formatted number aligned 
to the right. "subtotal.multiply()" would multiply numbers, and so on. 
Other methods would be required to interface to databases.
This is the OO way to implement what nando suggested. The problem is 
that calculi would be no more expressed in the usual, plain way, but in 
an unnatural way: "totalinvoice=amount+vat" would turn in 
"totalinvoice.set(amount, vat). After the first look, this could be 
something one can live with. But overloadable operators would be very 
appreciated to improve readability and, if impossible, compiler macro at 
least would help. You can walk around the problem as much as you want, 
and you finish with forcing a language to do things it never was planned 
to do. The same as complex numbers in C - you can use them, but what a 
bore! And, in fact, python supports complex numbers natively.

I must experiment a little with this idea, but I suspect that new 
classes for every textual gui element would be needed, and it is this 
part which scares me. I wrote some new components for this, and they 
work, but they have some quirks I don't understand well. And... I really 
hate accounting programs...

Uhm... I just readed back the mail about the "calculi" part. The 
"picturednumber" class could evaluate a string... so 
"totalinvoice=amount+vat" could be written as 
"totalinvoice.setTo("amount+vat")... double work, but double result... 
the only problem is that the compiler can not check for the correctness 
of the expression. Problems again.

Regards,
Doriano



From 12ukwn at ...626...  Tue Dec 15 11:36:51 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:36:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B2754B8.4030007@...1909...>
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Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
>> Don't burry Cobol too fast: for banking *only*, this year will be around
>> 5 milliards Cobol written lines (progression is an avg of 14% per year).
>>   
> This is a proof that well designed things get a long life. Ok, cobol was 
> invented exactly for that purpose - sadness is that nobody else seem to 
> care much about those good things. And money is the gas (citation from a 
> popular rock song :-)) of the world...

This isn't really true: part of my family owns a company that sell pastry
products (additives etc), their ERP run under UNIX and VT100 consoles
and is entirely written in Cobol.
Many mid to large companies use Cobol, and have problems to find programmers
interested into this language - so there are good days left for those who care.

ADA is also growing because of its very specialized variable definitions
possibilities.

...
> You was more lucky than me, because you was replied "perhaps in gambas 
> 4"; when was my turn to ask, Benoit replied "I will not implement 
> currency type in gambas". Stop. What an irony... someone who hates money 
> and financial programs (me) has to be knocked down for a request about 
> currency...

I don't like it either, but there are places to take with good programs.

> But on the side of the possible implementation in gambas, it is a really 
> hard work. I thought a little about the question, not necessarily to 
> propose changes in gambas, but to solve the problems in my application. 
> A new class, which does rounding and formatting could work. Something 
> like "dim subtotal as new currency(4,3)" would instantiate a variable 
> with three decimals, stored as a long integer. "subtotal.picture" would 
> return a string representation, "subtotal.picture(12)" would return a 
> space-leaded string of 12 characters, with the formatted number aligned 
> to the right. "subtotal.multiply()" would multiply numbers, and so on. 
> Other methods would be required to interface to databases.
> This is the OO way to implement what nando suggested. The problem is 
> that calculi would be no more expressed in the usual, plain way, but in 
> an unnatural way: "totalinvoice=amount+vat" would turn in 
> "totalinvoice.set(amount, vat). After the first look, this could be 
> something one can live with. But overloadable operators would be very 
> appreciated to improve readability and, if impossible, compiler macro at 
> least would help. You can walk around the problem as much as you want, 
> and you finish with forcing a language to do things it never was planned 
> to do. The same as complex numbers in C - you can use them, but what a 
> bore! And, in fact, python supports complex numbers natively.

This is even more complicated - ie: fr law say that precision of VAT rates
is 4 decimals, and as I said before, some items can be invoiced with a
large number of decimals.
For VAT, more than 2 decimals had never been used but could be tomorrow;
so this is an entire int2decimal processor to write (as you wrote, no more
than 2 members to multiply because of that:(

> I must experiment a little with this idea, but I suspect that new 
> classes for every textual gui element would be needed, and it is this 
> part which scares me. I wrote some new components for this, and they 
> work, but they have some quirks I don't understand well. And... I really 
> hate accounting programs...
> 
> Uhm... I just readed back the mail about the "calculi" part. The 
> "picturednumber" class could evaluate a string... so 
> "totalinvoice=amount+vat" could be written as 
> "totalinvoice.setTo("amount+vat")... double work, but double result... 
> the only problem is that the compiler can not check for the correctness 
> of the expression. Problems again.

I lost too much time with things like that and now strongly consider
to interface all calculation to Python and only keep GB as a GUI.

This shouldn't add that many things to the system: as of Linux, Python 
is a std install, as of Debian, this will only require a few packages 
to add (AND it'll solve docs templates, PDF generation and some other 
dead-ends)

Regards,
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From pinozollo at ...626...  Tue Dec 15 12:16:54 2009
From: pinozollo at ...626... (Pino Zollo)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:16:54 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bambas <---> Python
Message-ID: <200912150816.55180.pinozollo@...626...>

>I lost too much time with things like that and now strongly consider
>to interface all calculation to Python and only keep GB as a GUI.

>This shouldn't add that many things to the system: as of Linux, Python 
>is a std install, as of Debian, this will only require a few packages 
>to add (AND it'll solve docs templates, PDF generation and some other 
>dead-ends)

>Regards,
>JY

I am interested in that !!
Please JY how can I do it ? Can you provide an example ?

Python interfaces to FORTRAN and I would like to call from Gambas some FORTRAN
routines.

Regards

Pino


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From norarg at ...2311...  Tue Dec 15 12:31:51 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:31:51 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
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Doriano Blengino schrieb:
> nando ha scritto:
>   
>> My contribution to this conversation is..
>> Always INT or LONG for money.
>> Keep a global variable to divide by (for example 2 decimal places) 100
>> when printing/displaying things to humans...
>> -OR- to take the string and insert a period for cents (North America)
>> Make a really nice SUB to return a formatted string is good.
>> It is the utmost importance not to use FLOAT from the beginning
>> because calculations will be wrong after a while and it will not balance.
>> You will have headaches!!!
>>   
>>     
> You are perfectly true. It seems that floating point does not like base 
> 10 numbers... :-)
>
> But here comes in place the power of a programming language; a good 
> language is a wrapper around bad or annoying things. All we love gambas 
> because it is easy to construct user interface. But there would be no 
> necessity of its power - one can write external functions and interface 
> to X11 directly...
>
> So when you tell me "don't use floats for accounting" I agree. When you 
> say "use a global variable to divide", "insert a decimal point" and so 
> on, I think "100% of gambas users want to use graphical interfaces, 
> while only 2% of them want to use financial capabilities. So, that 2% 
> must live with a language not very suitable for accounting". "Use long 
> integers, divide them, use format$()..." is the reply from Benoit. Does 
> someone remember the Cobol? With a simple declaration "picture 99.9999" 
> it created a datatype and managed all the roundings and conversions on 
> that datatype; this was the power of that language. I don't say that 
> gambas should implement this, but it would not hurt... it is a matter of 
> choice; I understand that this kind of things is difficult to implement 
> (or, who knows... with OO programming... but the really hard part is the 
> mixing of different types in the same expression).
>
> The most important application I've written with gambas is something 
> similar to a financial one. I faced problems with gridviews, tableviews, 
> formats, roundings... all the things we are speaking about just now, and 
> they are not yet fully solved. I think that the way you describe is a 
> hard work, even if it is the only possible at the moment.
>
> Regards,
>
>   

Hi

I remember Cobol, it was very much used in the 80'es, and the company in 
which I was employed at that time used it for all commercial software. 
Then C got more and more modern to use, and one had to write a lot of 
functions to get the same results - in the accounting-context. Cobol had 
its own "database", just datafiles, it did not have to convert anything 
from any SQL-Server, and as far as I can remember, it stored the data 
without any floats - the picture 9.99 just told it where to set the 
decimalpoint.

regards


From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec 15 12:37:12 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:37:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
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Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto:
> Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
>   
>>> Don't burry Cobol too fast: for banking *only*, this year will be around
>>> 5 milliards Cobol written lines (progression is an avg of 14% per year).
>>>   
>>>       
>> This is a proof that well designed things get a long life. Ok, cobol was 
>> invented exactly for that purpose - sadness is that nobody else seem to 
>> care much about those good things. And money is the gas (citation from a 
>> popular rock song :-)) of the world...
>>     
>
> This isn't really true: part of my family owns a company that sell pastry
> products (additives etc), their ERP run under UNIX and VT100 consoles
> and is entirely written in Cobol.
> Many mid to large companies use Cobol, and have problems to find programmers
> interested into this language - so there are good days left for those who care.
>   
I was intending that nobody steals good ideas from cobol. I know that 
cobol is still used but, I think, it is an old language. Dream: a really 
good language having some properties of cobol, and specialized GUI 
widgets where you bind the variable (with picture, limits, precision and 
so on) to a widget. Probably Java and Python are already able to do so, 
but they have other limits. Another problem I often face is that of 
preferences. I make a nicely customizable program, with lot of 
preferences, and for every preference I have to put a widget on a form, 
load its content from a file, rewrite its content to the file, and so 
on. Simply boring.
> ADA is also growing because of its very specialized variable definitions
> possibilities.
>   
A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless 
languages, and only few met my own requirements - strong typization, 
good compiler checks, overloading and, of course!, OO model. One of 
these was Ada. But I rejected all C- and Java- flavoured. Irony again... 
C language is the one I use most...
>   
>> But on the side of the possible implementation in gambas, it is a really 
>> hard work. I thought a little about the question, not necessarily to 
>> propose changes in gambas, but to solve the problems in my application. 
>> A new class, which does rounding and formatting could work. Something 
>> like "dim subtotal as new currency(4,3)" would instantiate a variable 
>> with three decimals, stored as a long integer. "subtotal.picture" would 
>> return a string representation, "subtotal.picture(12)" would return a 
>> space-leaded string of 12 characters, with the formatted number aligned 
>> to the right. "subtotal.multiply()" would multiply numbers, and so on. 
>> Other methods would be required to interface to databases.
>> This is the OO way to implement what nando suggested. The problem is 
>> that calculi would be no more expressed in the usual, plain way, but in 
>> an unnatural way: "totalinvoice=amount+vat" would turn in 
>> "totalinvoice.set(amount, vat). After the first look, this could be 
>> something one can live with. But overloadable operators would be very 
>> appreciated to improve readability and, if impossible, compiler macro at 
>> least would help. You can walk around the problem as much as you want, 
>> and you finish with forcing a language to do things it never was planned 
>> to do. The same as complex numbers in C - you can use them, but what a 
>> bore! And, in fact, python supports complex numbers natively.
>>     
>
> This is even more complicated - ie: fr law say that precision of VAT rates
> is 4 decimals, and as I said before, some items can be invoiced with a
> large number of decimals.
> For VAT, more than 2 decimals had never been used but could be tomorrow;
> so this is an entire int2decimal processor to write (as you wrote, no more
> than 2 members to multiply because of that:(
>   
I am not sure to understand. If you take an amount with 2 decimals of 
precision, you can calculate VAT with 4 decimal precision:
    dim amount as new currency(8,2)
    dim vatrate as new currency(2,4)
    dim vat as new currency(8,2)
    dim total as new currency(8,2)

    amount.calculate(....)
    vatrate.set(18.55)      ' is this a percent, right?
    vat.calculate(amount % vatrate)
    total.calculate('amount+vat')

Now a few things should be considered. The variable VAT has a precision 
of 2 decimals, but by invoking vat.calculate(...), a variable with 
precision 4 is passed in, so the calculus is made on 4 decimals and, 
just before storing the result to VAT, the rounding to 2 decimals is 
made (and the rounding is another interesting piece...).
So we should have what we want: precision 4 in the rate, and precision 2 
in money's variables. Not sure what to do in the inverse operation... 
taking out a 18.55% vat rate from a total, should give a correct amount 
and vat which, added together, should give the total again... funny to 
say, but a little harder to implement... but this could be just another 
method (I call it "scorporo", but I don't know how to say it in english).
>   
>>
>> Uhm... I just readed back the mail about the "calculi" part. The 
>> "picturednumber" class could evaluate a string... so 
>> "totalinvoice=amount+vat" could be written as 
>> "totalinvoice.setTo("amount+vat")... double work, but double result... 
>> the only problem is that the compiler can not check for the correctness 
>> of the expression. Problems again.
>>     
>
> I lost too much time with things like that and now strongly consider
> to interface all calculation to Python and only keep GB as a GUI.
>   
Betrayer! :-)))

Why not interface to cobol directly, then? I don't think your way is 
viable - it would be even more "forcing a language to do things it never 
was planned for". I think you intend to call /usr/lib/libpython2.xx, 
perhaps through some wrapper class; interesting... may be this could 
solve the "expressions" issue...

Regards,
Doriano




From 12ukwn at ...626...  Tue Dec 15 12:39:47 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:39:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bambas <---> Python
In-Reply-To: <200912150816.55180.pinozollo@...626...>
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Pino Zollo a ?crit :
>> I lost too much time with things like that and now strongly consider
>> to interface all calculation to Python and only keep GB as a GUI.
> 
>> This shouldn't add that many things to the system: as of Linux, Python 
>> is a std install, as of Debian, this will only require a few packages 
>> to add (AND it'll solve docs templates, PDF generation and some other 
>> dead-ends)
> 
>> Regards,
>> JY
> 
> I am interested in that !!
> Please JY how can I do it ? Can you provide an example ?
> 
> Python interfaces to FORTRAN and I would like to call from Gambas some FORTRAN
> routines.

Unfortunately, the only way I see now is to call a Python subroutine
by SHELL or EXEC (but I'm terribly far away to know all about GB).

This will look ugly, but it is the only way to take the best of the 2 worlds:
GUI from GB, nice and accurate calculation from Python.

Apart ugliness, benefits can be large: think about directly writing .XLS
or .ODS or .PDF for your users, or use whatever templates systems you want
to generate nifty docs :)

Regards
JY
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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Tue Dec 15 13:03:07 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:03:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
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Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
...
>>   
> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless 

hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50]

> languages, and only few met my own requirements - strong typization, 
> good compiler checks, overloading and, of course!, OO model. One of 
> these was Ada. But I rejected all C- and Java- flavoured. Irony again... 
> C language is the one I use most...

Yes this is the PB, each one has pros & cons.

...
>> I lost too much time with things like that and now strongly consider
>> to interface all calculation to Python and only keep GB as a GUI.
>>   
> Betrayer! :-)))

No, this meets what you said above: no language is perfect, so the only
solution is to take whatever you want in some of them (well, not some, 2)

And I'm not a language integrist: I pick what fits my needs.

> Why not interface to cobol directly, then? I don't think your way is 
> viable - it would be even more "forcing a language to do things it never 
> was planned for". I think you intend to call /usr/lib/libpython2.xx, 
> perhaps through some wrapper class; interesting... may be this could 
> solve the "expressions" issue...

I'm far from a specialist, as a matter of fact I didn't used OO before
(only C and ASM a looong time ago) so the only way I see to make a mix
is to call external subroutines through SHELL or EXEC; but if you know
other ways, I'm in.

I don't wanna end up with terrible hacks, nor spend more time to develop
something that already exists in another language: I need it to run the way 
I want in an easy (and maintenable) way - without headaches...

Regards
JY
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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec 15 13:17:32 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:17:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
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Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto:
> Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
> ...
>   
>>>   
>>>       
>> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless 
>>     
>
> hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50]
>   
What do you mean precisely? Can you define the properties of such variable?
> I'm far from a specialist, as a matter of fact I didn't used OO before
> (only C and ASM a looong time ago) so the only way I see to make a mix
> is to call external subroutines through SHELL or EXEC; but if you know
> other ways, I'm in.
>
> I don't wanna end up with terrible hacks, nor spend more time to develop
> something that already exists in another language: I need it to run the way 
> I want in an easy (and maintenable) way - without headaches...
>   
*That* would be slow, very slooow.

There are "external" declarations in gambas (I was admired when I saw 
them the first time). That should be the way to go. I used them to 
interface the LDAP library, and it worked. But it was a pain to manage 
pointers and memory in gambas, and probably there are several quirks in 
that work. If the python lib is written in C++ instead, then things get 
worse, so an EXEC is simpler for sure (but slow). I insist on the 
slowness because you insisted on that in an earlier mail. If you want to 
process thousands rows from a database, then the exec is guaranteed to 
be out of discussion.

Regards,
Doriano



From rolf.frogs at ...221...  Tue Dec 15 14:30:13 2009
From: rolf.frogs at ...221... (Rolf Schmidt)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:30:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
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Am Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2009 schrieb Doriano Blengino:
> Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto:
> > Doriano Blengino a ??crit :
> > ...
> >
> >> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless
> >
> > hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50]
>
> What do you mean precisely? Can you define the properties of such variable?
>
> > I'm far from a specialist, as a matter of fact I didn't used OO before
> > (only C and ASM a looong time ago) so the only way I see to make a mix
> > is to call external subroutines through SHELL or EXEC; but if you know
> > other ways, I'm in.
> >
> > I don't wanna end up with terrible hacks, nor spend more time to develop
> > something that already exists in another language: I need it to run the
> > way I want in an easy (and maintenable) way - without headaches...
>
> *That* would be slow, very slooow.
>
> There are "external" declarations in gambas (I was admired when I saw
> them the first time). That should be the way to go. I used them to
> interface the LDAP library, and it worked. But it was a pain to manage
> pointers and memory in gambas, and probably there are several quirks in
> that work. If the python lib is written in C++ instead, then things get
> worse, so an EXEC is simpler for sure (but slow). I insist on the
> slowness because you insisted on that in an earlier mail. If you want to
> process thousands rows from a database, then the exec is guaranteed to
> be out of discussion.

Did you try to use the mp-lib (multi precision) from the gnu project. It is 
designed to make math cal the way we learnd at school, so its result are 
always correct at any depth of decimal fractions.

I think they have a definition for the data/variables they need for the 
calculation. So define variables in their way, is a possibility how to 
implement a number class in gambas.

Regards
Rolf



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Dec 15 14:30:50 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:30:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
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2009/12/15 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
> Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto:
>> Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
>> ...
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless
>>>
>>
>> hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50]
>>
> What do you mean precisely? Can you define the properties of such variable?
>> I'm far from a specialist, as a matter of fact I didn't used OO before
>> (only C and ASM a looong time ago) so the only way I see to make a mix
>> is to call external subroutines through SHELL or EXEC; but if you know
>> other ways, I'm in.
>>
>> I don't wanna end up with terrible hacks, nor spend more time to develop
>> something that already exists in another language: I need it to run the way
>> I want in an easy (and maintenable) way - without headaches...
>>
> *That* would be slow, very slooow.
>
> There are "external" declarations in gambas (I was admired when I saw
> them the first time). That should be the way to go. I used them to
> interface the LDAP library, and it worked. But it was a pain to manage
> pointers and memory in gambas, and probably there are several quirks in
> that work. If the python lib is written in C++ instead, then things get
> worse, so an EXEC is simpler for sure (but slow). I insist on the
> slowness because you insisted on that in an earlier mail. If you want to
> process thousands rows from a database, then the exec is guaranteed to
> be out of discussion.

And on the thouthen of accounting program code i've readen the
majority use long or integer to store values.
 so they use integer to compute and in the database they store the
printable value as string...

Not many are using float, and those are beginner's ones... like mine :/ lol

>
> Regards,
> Doriano
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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Tue Dec 15 16:50:11 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:50:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
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Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
>>> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless 
>>>     
>> hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50]
>>   
> What do you mean precisely? Can you define the properties of such variable?

means: var name of type = temperature, type = integer, can't go further
its boundaries [-10, +50] ([-10.0, +50.0] would have a 1/10th degree 
precision and so on)

...

>> I don't wanna end up with terrible hacks, nor spend more time to develop
>> something that already exists in another language: I need it to run the way 
>> I want in an easy (and maintenable) way - without headaches...
>>   
> *That* would be slow, very slooow.
> 
> There are "external" declarations in gambas (I was admired when I saw 
> them the first time). That should be the way to go. I used them to 
> interface the LDAP library, and it worked. But it was a pain to manage 
> pointers and memory in gambas, and probably there are several quirks in 
> that work. If the python lib is written in C++ instead, then things get 
> worse, so an EXEC is simpler for sure (but slow). I insist on the 
> slowness because you insisted on that in an earlier mail. If you want to 
> process thousands rows from a database, then the exec is guaranteed to 
> be out of discussion.

Ok, I drew the logical conclusion.

Regards
JY
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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Tue Dec 15 16:52:56 2009
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:52:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912150530o71d7cbeeq265252eb3fa02055@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...> 
	<20091215000120.M69324@...951...>
	<4B27388E.8060203@...1909...> 
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	<4B2766C3.9070009@...626...> <4B2774E8.6060401@...1909...> 
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I don't like floats.
They are slow, and bitchy;

Dim n As Single
n = 1.4 - 0.2
Print n
And the result is 1.200000047684, which is obviously wrong from math
point of view.
Correcting floating point artifact, makes floats even slower.
And it is surprisingly common to be able to use integers instead.

Jussi


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 15:30, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
> 2009/12/15 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
>> Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto:
>>> Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless
>>>>
>>>
>>> hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50]
>>>
>> What do you mean precisely? Can you define the properties of such variable?
>>> I'm far from a specialist, as a matter of fact I didn't used OO before
>>> (only C and ASM a looong time ago) so the only way I see to make a mix
>>> is to call external subroutines through SHELL or EXEC; but if you know
>>> other ways, I'm in.
>>>
>>> I don't wanna end up with terrible hacks, nor spend more time to develop
>>> something that already exists in another language: I need it to run the way
>>> I want in an easy (and maintenable) way - without headaches...
>>>
>> *That* would be slow, very slooow.
>>
>> There are "external" declarations in gambas (I was admired when I saw
>> them the first time). That should be the way to go. I used them to
>> interface the LDAP library, and it worked. But it was a pain to manage
>> pointers and memory in gambas, and probably there are several quirks in
>> that work. If the python lib is written in C++ instead, then things get
>> worse, so an EXEC is simpler for sure (but slow). I insist on the
>> slowness because you insisted on that in an earlier mail. If you want to
>> process thousands rows from a database, then the exec is guaranteed to
>> be out of discussion.
>
> And on the thouthen of accounting program code i've readen the
> majority use long or integer to store values.
> ?so they use integer to compute and in the database they store the
> printable value as string...
>
> Not many are using float, and those are beginner's ones... like mine :/ lol
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doriano
>>
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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec 15 17:26:53 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:26:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B27B033.5030004@...626...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<4B26BF18.6060501@...626...>	<200912150001.41378.gambas@...1...>	<200912150038.35368.ronstk@...239...>	<20091215000120.M69324@...951...>	<4B27388E.8060203@...1909...>	<4B27498C.4090403@...626...>	<4B2754B8.4030007@...1909...>	<4B2766C3.9070009@...626...>	<4B2774E8.6060401@...1909...>	<4B277AFB.8070606@...626...>	<4B277E5C.3070208@...1909...>
	<4B27B033.5030004@...626...>
Message-ID: <4B27B8CD.2080701@...1909...>

Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto:
> Doriano Blengino a ?crit :
>   
>>>> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50]
>>>   
>>>       
>> What do you mean precisely? Can you define the properties of such variable?
>>     
>
> means: var name of type = temperature, type = integer, can't go further
> its boundaries [-10, +50] ([-10.0, +50.0] would have a 1/10th degree 
> precision and so on)
>   
Pascal can do it on scalars: "type Tdegrees = -10..50;". The storage 
will be the minimum required (in this case, a shortint, or signed byte). 
If you turn range checking on, then assigning a value out of range 
raises a runtime error. If in your program you have such a wrong 
assignment from a constant expression, then the error will be detected 
at compile time (ie, the compiler is smart enough to detect this). This 
is the "old", standard pascal, where you can't do the same with real 
(floating) numbers because they are not scalar, so by definition they do 
not have ranges, so you can not define subranges (and this is a limit, 
dictated by "pureness" of original pascal). I think that ADA's very 
advanced declarations started from here, adding more capabilities 
(pascal has the same age as C).

In more recent pascal you can overload everything (operators included), 
so you can get a step ahead; but "temperature := temperature+1" always 
means "increment of one unit". This is what is possible without OO. 
Using OO, you must instantiate every variable (because now they are 
objects), write methods and overload assignments and operators, and make 
exactly what you want even with precision 1/10th: writing "temperature 
:= temperature+1" can lead to 1 degree of increment, or 1 tenth of 
degree: it depends on how you implement it.

Regards,
Doriano


From klaine8 at ...626...  Tue Dec 15 19:08:51 2009
From: klaine8 at ...626... (Kari Laine)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:08:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Financial program
In-Reply-To: <4B27B8CD.2080701@...1909...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<4B27388E.8060203@...1909...> <4B27498C.4090403@...626...>
	<4B2754B8.4030007@...1909...> <4B2766C3.9070009@...626...>
	<4B2774E8.6060401@...1909...> <4B277AFB.8070606@...626...>
	<4B277E5C.3070208@...1909...> <4B27B033.5030004@...626...>
	<4B27B8CD.2080701@...1909...>
Message-ID: <61452b690912151008t25e9b7d1r3245d02ac7266c45@...627...>

Hi,

thank you for all the information. I also found a system made in
Finland using PHP. It is called pupesoft and it's web-address is

http://www.devlab.fi/pupesoft

So now when I have time I will test all of these and see how they work.

Best Regards
Kari



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 16 00:17:55 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:17:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas
Message-ID: <200912160017.55108.gambas@...1...>

Wow, what a big talk...

I just want to explain a few points.

1) I didn't say that I don't want to implement a currency or fixed decimal 
datatype in Gambas 3. I just can't. The maximum number of native datatypes has 
been reached the way the datatype system works. So it needs a good bit of 
redesign in the interpreter. Think to the datatype conversion functions, that 
must be able to convert any datatype to any other. Its size is almost 
proportional to the square of the number of datatypes. All arithmetic 
functions must deal with all datatypes. And so on... I wanted to keep the 
interpreter small, so adding these features was never a priority.

2) In some languages, the datatype has a meaning in the way the data in stored 
in memory *and* in the way the data must be display on the screen. But not in 
Gambas. This is the reason I don't like declaration of fixed floating point 
values, that are just integers with a special multiplication and division.

3) Why nobody starts writing a Decimal class whose objects are fixed floating 
point values, with a lot of financial methods? That beast can be written in 
Gambas first, and then converted to a C component easily, as no library is 
needed to perform all the computation. But maybe using a already existing 
financial library is a better idea then.

4) Floating point values are computed in base 2. And, in base 2, 1/10 is like 
1/3 in base 10. You cannot represent it with a finite precision. So:

	1.4 - 0.2 = 1.200000047684

is perfectly valid with a Single datatype. You get the real value stored in 
memory.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Wed Dec 16 05:58:43 2009
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:58:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] array declaration versus referencing array elements
Message-ID: <26806307.post@...1379...>


I have some code:

PUBLIC myarray AS String[10000, 2]
...
myarray[x, 0] = stuff
myarray[x, 1] = morestuff
myarray[x, 2] = evenmorestuff

and receive an "out of bounds" error message when referencing the third
array element assignment (myarray[x, 2] = evenmorestuff).

I can only assume that the array declaration defines the total number of
elements and that referencing the array elements starts at zero. In other
possibly more confusing words:

PUBLIC myarray AS String[10000, 2] = 10000x2 total elements

and

myarray[x,y] = myarray[0-9999,0-1]

I think my confusion may have come from my old VB6 days with "OPTION BASE"
and all that crapola. Someone please confirm that GAMBAS works as I
speculated or let me know if I'm missing something. Thanks all.

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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Wed Dec 16 06:57:39 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:57:39 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] array declaration versus referencing array
	elements
In-Reply-To: <26806307.post@...1379...>
References: <26806307.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <4B2876D3.8050306@...1909...>

kevinfishburne ha scritto:
> I have some code:
>
> PUBLIC myarray AS String[10000, 2]
> ...
> myarray[x, 0] = stuff
> myarray[x, 1] = morestuff
> myarray[x, 2] = evenmorestuff
>
> and receive an "out of bounds" error message when referencing the third
> array element assignment (myarray[x, 2] = evenmorestuff).
>
> I can only assume that the array declaration defines the total number of
> elements and that referencing the array elements starts at zero. In other
> possibly more confusing words:
>
> PUBLIC myarray AS String[10000, 2] = 10000x2 total elements
>
> and
>
> myarray[x,y] = myarray[0-9999,0-1]
>
> I think my confusion may have come from my old VB6 days with "OPTION BASE"
> and all that crapola. Someone please confirm that GAMBAS works as I
> speculated or let me know if I'm missing something. Thanks all.
>
>   
I think you posed a question and replied to it by yourself... :-)

The upper bound, 2 in this case, declares the number of elements, as in 
C, and those elements are numbered from 0 to 1. This idea is common in 
many other places; for example, all .Count properties say how many 
elements are in the object (columns in a gridview, elements in a 
collection...), but you address those elements from 0 to Count-1.

Regards,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Wed Dec 16 07:05:07 2009
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:05:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] SDL component documentation
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912050227o585af93fl97a288a4e6bd9a9@...627...>
References: <26603936.post@...1379...>
	<6324a42a0912050227o585af93fl97a288a4e6bd9a9@...627...>
Message-ID: <26806675.post@...1379...>



Fabien Bodard-4 wrote:
> 
> gb.sdl is incomplete ... in fact Laurent have begin to redraw all the
> gb.sdl lib by using OpenGl... but ... still incomplete ... i think the
> lack of users on this lib mess his enthusiasm
> 

Hi Fabien, I agree with your comments. I'm guessing that GAMBAS 3 is still
in alpha/beta since I haven't seen any releases on the download page. I am
looking forward to it and hope it's fairly downward-compatible so GAMBAS 2
apps will run in it.

That's good to hear that the new SDL component will be rewritten using
OpenGL. I think the only thing GAMBAS is currently missing is a robust
high-level 2D and 3D graphics library. While an OpenGL wrapper is cool,
having to write 10 or more lines of code to create a single polygon probably
doesn't help most people. I think it's also important to consider that
GAMBAS need not necessarily implement literal wrappers for SDL or OpenGL,
but rather its own unique flavor of 2D and 3D routines aimed squarely at
delivering practical and efficient results.

The spirit of GAMBAS surely is to write effective apps quickly and with
respect to modern object-oriented programming conventions, all using a
language that is easy and familiar to BASIC-loving developers. In that
spirit a higher-level graphics component fits right in. Here's my two cents
for what a 2D graphics library might include:

* Graphics Buffers
** Allow creation of buffers in video memory (hardware accelerated) to store
images
** Allow multiple buffers with different properties
*** Define width and height
*** Define RGB bit-depth (8, 16, 24, 32, etc.)
*** Define alpha-channel bit-depth (0, 2, 4, 8, etc.)

* Image Loading
** Allow loading of different file types into a graphics buffer (PNG, GIF,
JPG, etc.)
** Allow loading file into specific location (x1,y1) of the buffer

* Bit Blitting
** Allow copying one region of a graphics buffer (x1,y1,x2,y2) to another
graphics buffer (x1,y1)
** Allow arbitrary rotation when copying a region from one buffer to another
** Allow arbitrary scaling when copying a region from one buffer to another
** Allow "downsampling" and "upsampling" when copying a region to a buffer
with a different bit-depth
** Allow global alpha modifier multiplied by the existing region's alpha
channel (will allow a region to be faded in or faded out, preserving its
existing alpha channel)

* Effects Processing
** Allow various effects (brightness, contrast, hue, saturation, gaussian
blur, etc.)
** Allow the results of the effects, when necessary, to extend beyond the
region in the buffer they were applied to

I think a 2D graphics component is far more useful than a 3D component, as
it will appeal to a wider developer base. 3D graphics require more work and
more skill, therefore most programmers would be more adept at 2D graphics
than 3D. While 3D is important, it should be relegated to being more
seriously-developed only after a robust 2D library has been implemented.

I wish I could contribute more but will have to settle for posting in the
forums and developing GAMBAS apps that hopefully people will find useful or
fun. I'm very good at graphics and documentation, so if anyone has any tasks
that need to be done that they think I could do (or help me do by acting as
an intermediary with the source code) please let me know.

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From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Wed Dec 16 07:35:15 2009
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:35:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Need a Ubuntu/Linux teacher
In-Reply-To: <1260016783.1880.16.camel@...2329...>
References: <1260016783.1880.16.camel@...2329...>
Message-ID: <26806834.post@...1379...>



John-679 wrote:
> 
> Hi All
>        I am new to Linux. I am using Ubuntu 9.10.
> What I am looking for is a kind person to help me off line with Linux
> and Ubuntu.
> 

Hi John. I develop and sell Linux-based desktop and laptop PCs for a living
and have been using Linux exclusively for about three years. I supported
Windows for seven years at a couple of mortgage companies so I unfortunately
also come from a strong Windows background. Linux is certainly a different
beast, and while the previous posters' comments are valid and useful you may
contact me if you'd like to rapidly get the "gist" of the way Linux works,
or to figure out how to do something specific quickly. Feel free to call or
email. If you don't receive an answer please leave a voicemail and a
callback number and I'll return your call.

Have a good week, and welcome to Linux and GAMBAS.

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From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Wed Dec 16 07:46:14 2009
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:46:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] array declaration versus referencing array
 elements
In-Reply-To: <4B2876D3.8050306@...1909...>
References: <26806307.post@...1379...> <4B2876D3.8050306@...1909...>
Message-ID: <26806900.post@...1379...>



Doriano Blengino wrote:
> 
> I think you posed a question and replied to it by yourself... :-)
> 

Hi Doriano. That is super funny. ;) Yes, I was more or less looking for
confirmation of the behaviour and hoping to provide a reference for anyone
else who may have been similarly confused and searching the forum/list. I
searched for "out of bounds" and didn't find an answer, neither was it in
the "array declaration" section of the documentation. Sadly I think my mind
was poisoned by VB's convention, leading to my confusion. Glad to hear it
follows sensible convention and ignored VB's arbitrary logic. I'm paranoid
about my code and don't like to leave much to uncertainty.

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From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Wed Dec 16 08:38:32 2009
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:38:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Showing ps files
Message-ID: <4B288E78.3010906@...221...>

Good morning everyone,

just a small question: Is there a control which could show the contents 
of postscript files? Maybe even scaled, so I could implement a preview 
and a bigger reading screen?

If not, I guess this would mean calling an external application for it 
which would make this whole thing less handy.

Thanks for your ideas.

Rolf



From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Wed Dec 16 08:40:22 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:40:22 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <200912160017.55108.gambas@...1...>
References: <200912160017.55108.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <f4c183100912152340h60d0745eq3fe13da33329850a@...627...>

Hi to all,

I'm use gambas to write ERP applications. At the first, I got the same
problem but I decided to use long integer to save currency values. First
rigth two digits are always showed to users as decimal values.

I'm rewrited all my apps from windows to gambas and they are working now
with no problems in customers servers.

I allways use a function to show values in controls in app's forms that
convert database fields values showed in textboxes whose name started int
dbcur (p.e. dbcurVAT) to value div 100 and works with no problems. I use
allways the same function to write forms data to database and make the
reverse proccess.

Its simple and works

2009/12/15 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> Wow, what a big talk...
>
> I just want to explain a few points.
>
> 1) I didn't say that I don't want to implement a currency or fixed decimal
> datatype in Gambas 3. I just can't. The maximum number of native datatypes
> has
> been reached the way the datatype system works. So it needs a good bit of
> redesign in the interpreter. Think to the datatype conversion functions,
> that
> must be able to convert any datatype to any other. Its size is almost
> proportional to the square of the number of datatypes. All arithmetic
> functions must deal with all datatypes. And so on... I wanted to keep the
> interpreter small, so adding these features was never a priority.
>
> 2) In some languages, the datatype has a meaning in the way the data in
> stored
> in memory *and* in the way the data must be display on the screen. But not
> in
> Gambas. This is the reason I don't like declaration of fixed floating point
> values, that are just integers with a special multiplication and division.
>
> 3) Why nobody starts writing a Decimal class whose objects are fixed
> floating
> point values, with a lot of financial methods? That beast can be written in
> Gambas first, and then converted to a C component easily, as no library is
> needed to perform all the computation. But maybe using a already existing
> financial library is a better idea then.
>
> 4) Floating point values are computed in base 2. And, in base 2, 1/10 is
> like
> 1/3 in base 10. You cannot represent it with a finite precision. So:
>
>        1.4 - 0.2 = 1.200000047684
>
> is perfectly valid with a Single datatype. You get the real value stored in
> memory.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
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From kc_ooi82 at ...43...  Wed Dec 16 09:45:21 2009
From: kc_ooi82 at ...43... (Me)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:45:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Parallel Port Programming in Gambas
Message-ID: <262892.86860.qm@...2344...>

Hi all,

I am new to Gambas 2.16 and also Ubuntu  9.04.
I trying to write a Gambas program to control
parallel  port's input/output in Ubuntu.

For example, 
Switch parallel port pin 2 to on or off.

>From How To Use Parallel Port

http://gambasdoc.org/help/howto/parport

Solution 1:
opening /dev/port with
OPEN and read/write at a specific location.


Solution 2:
Based on a C library named 'parapin'

For solution 2, how Gambas can access the parapin library?

Thank you in advance.



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From 12ukwn at ...626...  Wed Dec 16 10:23:35 2009
From: 12ukwn at ...626... (Jean-Yves F. Barbier)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:23:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100912152340h60d0745eq3fe13da33329850a@...627...>
References: <200912160017.55108.gambas@...1...>
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Message-ID: <4B28A717.30802@...626...>

Ricardo D?az Mart?n a ?crit :
> Hi to all,
> 
> I'm use gambas to write ERP applications. At the first, I got the same
> problem but I decided to use long integer to save currency values. First
> rigth two digits are always showed to users as decimal values.
> 
> I'm rewrited all my apps from windows to gambas and they are working now
> with no problems in customers servers.
> 
> I allways use a function to show values in controls in app's forms that
> convert database fields values showed in textboxes whose name started int
> dbcur (p.e. dbcurVAT) to value div 100 and works with no problems. I use
> allways the same function to write forms data to database and make the
> reverse proccess.

Hooo, thanks for the ad.

> Its simple and works

Sounds exactly like the commercial about women thin down cream we've
got on tv for months (it works!) (sorry, I couldn't resist:)

So you're truncating everything to 2 decimals, but as I said VAT (and as
a matter of fact almost all french taxes) is *legally* up to 4 decimals;
actually only 2 of them are used, but nothing's saying that tomorrow
is won't be 3 or 4 really used (especially on those times where our
gov morons (pleonasm) are desesperatly looking for money.)

BTW, how do you truncate 19.99657? Down to 19.99 or up to 20.00?
In my family's company a cent error is worth ?100,000 fine...

Other PB: most of results could be predictable (as of Nb of decimals),
but some can't (ie: 92.95x1.196=111.1682 OR 145x1.196=173.42),
maths says decimals should be dN1+dN2=5 but in these cases we only have
4 and 2 because of non-significant right zeroes, so you can't obviously
truncate by adding the comma counting 5 from the right.
One of the most used manner to get a selling price is to use a coefficient
which has many decimals (usually a real), how do you determine where to
put the comma in the resultant number??

I see the possibilities, but AFAIK this is a full processor to write
based on a complex numbers model, not to mention error possibilities 
have a tremendous cataclysmic potential in a matter where tax 
administration will be more than happy to chop your head and piss 
on your brain (yeah, they're like that here: when they come it is 
not to search, it is to find; no matter if has real justification or not.)

But may be I'm totally mistaking: I always have had PBs with simple
things.

JY
-- 
God is real, unless declared integer.



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Dec 16 11:03:50 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:03:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Showing ps files
In-Reply-To: <4B288E78.3010906@...221...>
References: <4B288E78.3010906@...221...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912160203h47bbc956mcaee11254ea457af@...627...>

use an external application like ghostscript and include it with
embedder control

2009/12/16 Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen at ...221...>:
> Good morning everyone,
>
> just a small question: Is there a control which could show the contents
> of postscript files? Maybe even scaled, so I could implement a preview
> and a bigger reading screen?
>
> If not, I guess this would mean calling an external application for it
> which would make this whole thing less handy.
>
> Thanks for your ideas.
>
> Rolf
>
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From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Wed Dec 16 11:46:40 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:46:40 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <4B28A717.30802@...626...>
References: <200912160017.55108.gambas@...1...>
	<f4c183100912152340h60d0745eq3fe13da33329850a@...627...>
	<4B28A717.30802@...626...>
Message-ID: <f4c183100912160246v4a2d2343sf5a2bd807933641a@...627...>

Jean,

You can use numbers of decimal as you want. I you want 4 you only need to
divide by 1000. The only you need to decide on before insert data. If you
need to add more decimals in future you only have to modify a parameter in
your app from 2 to 4 (functions that show from database/write to database
currency values must read this values before show/write info) and update
your database multiplying cur fields by 100 (to add two digit more of
precision)

You never need truncate any value if you always use this especial currency
type. For example if you set decimals to 4, number 19.99657 is no possible.

If you need to get selling prices using four decimal coefficient, define
coefficient as a currency type and set your app to use 4 decimal for all
"currency" values

I hope this helps you

2009/12/16 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>

> Ricardo D?az Mart?n a ?crit :
> > Hi to all,
> >
> > I'm use gambas to write ERP applications. At the first, I got the same
> > problem but I decided to use long integer to save currency values. First
> > rigth two digits are always showed to users as decimal values.
> >
> > I'm rewrited all my apps from windows to gambas and they are working now
> > with no problems in customers servers.
> >
> > I allways use a function to show values in controls in app's forms that
> > convert database fields values showed in textboxes whose name started int
> > dbcur (p.e. dbcurVAT) to value div 100 and works with no problems. I use
> > allways the same function to write forms data to database and make the
> > reverse proccess.
>
> Hooo, thanks for the ad.
>
> > Its simple and works
>
> Sounds exactly like the commercial about women thin down cream we've
> got on tv for months (it works!) (sorry, I couldn't resist:)
>
> So you're truncating everything to 2 decimals, but as I said VAT (and as
> a matter of fact almost all french taxes) is *legally* up to 4 decimals;
> actually only 2 of them are used, but nothing's saying that tomorrow
> is won't be 3 or 4 really used (especially on those times where our
> gov morons (pleonasm) are desesperatly looking for money.)
>
> BTW, how do you truncate 19.99657? Down to 19.99 or up to 20.00?
> In my family's company a cent error is worth ?100,000 fine...
>
> Other PB: most of results could be predictable (as of Nb of decimals),
> but some can't (ie: 92.95x1.196=111.1682 OR 145x1.196=173.42),
> maths says decimals should be dN1+dN2=5 but in these cases we only have
> 4 and 2 because of non-significant right zeroes, so you can't obviously
> truncate by adding the comma counting 5 from the right.
> One of the most used manner to get a selling price is to use a coefficient
> which has many decimals (usually a real), how do you determine where to
> put the comma in the resultant number??
>
> I see the possibilities, but AFAIK this is a full processor to write
> based on a complex numbers model, not to mention error possibilities
> have a tremendous cataclysmic potential in a matter where tax
> administration will be more than happy to chop your head and piss
> on your brain (yeah, they're like that here: when they come it is
> not to search, it is to find; no matter if has real justification or not.)
>
> But may be I'm totally mistaking: I always have had PBs with simple
> things.
>
> JY
> --
> God is real, unless declared integer.
>
>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Dec 16 11:52:15 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:52:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SDL component documentation
In-Reply-To: <26806675.post@...1379...>
References: <26603936.post@...1379...>
	<6324a42a0912050227o585af93fl97a288a4e6bd9a9@...627...>
	<26806675.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912160252l6f8a48f2nf646397848861240@...627...>

2009/12/16 kevinfishburne <kevinfishburne at ...1887...>:
>
>
> Fabien Bodard-4 wrote:
>>
>> gb.sdl is incomplete ... in fact Laurent have begin to redraw all the
>> gb.sdl lib by using OpenGl... but ... still incomplete ... i think the
>> lack of users on this lib mess his enthusiasm
>>
>
> Hi Fabien, I agree with your comments. I'm guessing that GAMBAS 3 is still
> in alpha/beta since I haven't seen any releases on the download page. I am
> looking forward to it and hope it's fairly downward-compatible so GAMBAS 2
> apps will run in it.
>
> That's good to hear that the new SDL component will be rewritten using
> OpenGL. I think the only thing GAMBAS is currently missing is a robust
> high-level 2D and 3D graphics library. While an OpenGL wrapper is cool,
> having to write 10 or more lines of code to create a single polygon probably
> doesn't help most people. I think it's also important to consider that
> GAMBAS need not necessarily implement literal wrappers for SDL or OpenGL,
> but rather its own unique flavor of 2D and 3D routines aimed squarely at
> delivering practical and efficient results.

i think too , so a good look at blitz will be interesring, Blitz 2D, Blitz Max


> The spirit of GAMBAS surely is to write effective apps quickly and with
> respect to modern object-oriented programming conventions, all using a
> language that is easy and familiar to BASIC-loving developers. In that
> spirit a higher-level graphics component fits right in. Here's my two cents
> for what a 2D graphics library might include:
>
> * Graphics Buffers
> ** Allow creation of buffers in video memory (hardware accelerated) to store
> images
> ** Allow multiple buffers with different properties
> *** Define width and height
> *** Define RGB bit-depth (8, 16, 24, 32, etc.)
> *** Define alpha-channel bit-depth (0, 2, 4, 8, etc.)
>
> * Image Loading
> ** Allow loading of different file types into a graphics buffer (PNG, GIF,
> JPG, etc.)
> ** Allow loading file into specific location (x1,y1) of the buffer
>
> * Bit Blitting
> ** Allow copying one region of a graphics buffer (x1,y1,x2,y2) to another
> graphics buffer (x1,y1)
> ** Allow arbitrary rotation when copying a region from one buffer to another
> ** Allow arbitrary scaling when copying a region from one buffer to another
> ** Allow "downsampling" and "upsampling" when copying a region to a buffer
> with a different bit-depth
> ** Allow global alpha modifier multiplied by the existing region's alpha
> channel (will allow a region to be faded in or faded out, preserving its
> existing alpha channel)
>
> * Effects Processing
> ** Allow various effects (brightness, contrast, hue, saturation, gaussian
> blur, etc.)
> ** Allow the results of the effects, when necessary, to extend beyond the
> region in the buffer they were applied to
>
> I think a 2D graphics component is far more useful than a 3D component, as
> it will appeal to a wider developer base. 3D graphics require more work and
> more skill, therefore most programmers would be more adept at 2D graphics
> than 3D. While 3D is important, it should be relegated to being more
> seriously-developed only after a robust 2D library has been implemented.
>
> I wish I could contribute more but will have to settle for posting in the
> forums and developing GAMBAS apps that hopefully people will find useful or
> fun. I'm very good at graphics and documentation, so if anyone has any tasks
> that need to be done that they think I could do (or help me do by acting as
> an intermediary with the source code) please let me know.
>
> -----
> Kevin Fishburne, Eight Virtues
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> e-mail: ?mailto:sales at ...1887... sales at ...1887...
> phone: (770) 853-6271
> --
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>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 16 11:56:28 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:56:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] signal SIGSEGV,
	Segmentation fault when using database example with ODDBC to a
	MSSQL Database
In-Reply-To: <000701ca7cca$87a13ed0$96e3bc70$@net>
References: <000701ca7cca$87a13ed0$96e3bc70$@net>
Message-ID: <200912161156.28663.gambas@...1...>

> Problem #11 when using ODBC to connect to a remote database running on MS
> SQL Server 2000.
> 
> 
> 
> I can connect to the database and run queries using tsql from a terminal
>  and isql from a root terminal and I can connect using odbc in Gambas2 if
>  the ide is started from a root terminal but not if started from the
>  programme shortcut.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a small utility to run queries on a SQL server, display the results
> and optionally export them as a csv file. As soon as the programme gets to
> the line where the query is assigned to a Result the programme crashes with
> a #11.  This behaviour is identical if running the Database Sample. The
> connection is opened. connection.opened is True when tested in debug mode.
> The line where the error occurs in the sample is:-
> 
> 
> 
>   rData = $hConn.Exec(txtRequest.Text)
> 
> 
> 
> which is the same as the one in my application where the programme crashes
> 
> 
> 
> PUBLIC SUB FillGrid(ctl AS Control, cnn AS Connection, sqlstr AS String)
> 
>   DIM datout AS Result, i AS Integer, j AS Integer
> 
> 
> 
>       datout = cnn.Exec(sqlstr)   The line the crash occurs
> 
> 
> 
> The version of gambas2 is 2.18.0
> 
> The kernel is Linux 2.6.31.5-127/fc12.x86_64
> 
> System is
> 
>       Memory 3.8 GiB
> 
>       Proc 0 AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core processor 5200+
> 
>       Proc 1 AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core processor 5200+
> 
> 
> 
> The query is executed as can be seen from the output from Wireshark
>  included after the debug output.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> 
> Debug data and Wireshark output from running the Database Sample Programme.
> 
> 
> 
> [root at ...2341... Database]# cd /usr/share/gambas2/examples/Database/Database
> 
> [root at ...2341... Database]# gbc2 -agt
> 
> OK
> 
> [root at ...2341... Database]# gdb gbx2
> 
> GNU gdb (GDB) Fedora (7.0-8.fc12)
> 
> Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> 
> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
> <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
> 
> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
> 
> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"
> 
> and "show warranty" for details.
> 
> This GDB was configured as "x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu".
> 
> For bug reporting instructions, please see:
> 
> <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>...
> 
> Reading symbols from /usr/bin/gbx2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
> 
> Missing separate debuginfos, use: debuginfo-install
> gambas2-runtime-2.18.0-1.fc12.x86_64
> 
> (gdb) set args -p
> 
> (gdb) run
> 
> Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx2 -p
> 
> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> 
> 
> 
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 
> 0x0000003b3a27978c in free () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> 
> (gdb) bt
> 
> #0  0x0000003b3a27978c in free () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> 
> #1  0x00000000004050f1 in sinh ()
> 
> #2  0x00007fffefe013aa in SQLDisconnect ()
> 
>    from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.odbc.so
> 
> #3  0x00007fffefe03a28 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.odbc.so
> 
> #4  0x00007ffff7408da2 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.so
> 
> #5  0x00007ffff740975f in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.so
> 
> #6  0x00007ffff74063c7 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.db.so
> 
> #7  0x0000000000408b32 in sinh ()
> 
> #8  0x000000000040952f in sinh ()
> 
> #9  0x000000000042eea5 in sinh ()
> 
> #10 0x0000000000409cf5 in sinh ()
> 
> #11 0x0000000000409fac in sinh ()
> 
> #12 0x000000000041c4c9 in sinh ()
> 
> #13 0x000000000041ce79 in sinh ()
> 
> #14 0x00007ffff797edca in g_io_channel_unref ()
> 
>    from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.gtk.so
> 
> #15 0x000000324020ba8e in g_closure_invoke () from
> /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #16 0x0000003240220ec3 in ?? () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #17 0x0000003240222259 in g_signal_emit_valist ()
> 
>    from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #18 0x00000032402227a3 in g_signal_emit () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #19 0x000000324468d615 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
> 
> ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
> 
> #20 0x000000324020ba8e in g_closure_invoke () from
> /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #21 0x00000032402207dc in ?? () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #22 0x0000003240222259 in g_signal_emit_valist ()
> 
>    from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #23 0x00000032402227a3 in g_signal_emit () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #24 0x000000324468be77 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
> 
> #25 0x0000003244753903 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
> 
> #26 0x000000324020ba8e in g_closure_invoke () from
> /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #27 0x0000003240220b8d in ?? () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #28 0x00000032402220ec in g_signal_emit_valist ()
> 
>    from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #29 0x00000032402227a3 in g_signal_emit () from /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
> 
> #30 0x0000003244875a9f in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
> 
> #31 0x000000324474a664 in gtk_propagate_event ()
> 
>    from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
> 
> #32 0x000000324474b7a3 in gtk_main_do_event ()
> 
>    from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
> 
> #33 0x00007ffff798c627 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.gtk.so
> 
> #34 0x000000324625f7fc in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
> 
> #35 0x000000323fe3922e in g_main_context_dispatch ()
> 
>    from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
> 
> #36 0x000000323fe3cc18 in ?? () from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
> 
> #37 0x000000323fe3cd3a in g_main_context_iteration ()
> 
> ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
> 
>    from /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
> 
> #38 0x000000324474bb1d in gtk_main_iteration_do ()
> 
>    from /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
> 
> #39 0x00007ffff798a85a in g_io_channel_unref ()
> 
>    from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.gtk.so
> 
> #40 0x00007ffff798aec9 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/gambas2/gb.gtk.so
> 
> #41 0x0000000000422274 in sinh ()
> 
> #42 0x0000003b3a21eb1d in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> 
> #43 0x0000000000403a99 in sinh ()
> 
> #44 0x00007fffffffe598 in ?? ()
> 
> #45 0x000000000000001c in ?? ()
> 
> #46 0x0000000000000002 in ?? ()
> 
> #47 0x00000000008548d8 in ?? ()
> 
> #48 0x00007fffffffe80f in ?? ()
> 
> #49 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
> 
> 
> 

Can you compile gambas 2 from sources with debugging information enabled? This 
way you will get a useful backtrace that will tell where exactly the program 
fails.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From les at ...2337...  Tue Dec 15 22:57:04 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:57:04 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cannot save a gif image
In-Reply-To: <384d3900912150752m630e5923o60deb7c906473160@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<20091215000120.M69324@...951...>	<4B27388E.8060203@...1909...>
	<4B27498C.4090403@...626...> <4B2754B8.4030007@...1909...>
	<4B2766C3.9070009@...626...> <4B2774E8.6060401@...1909...>
	<4B277AFB.8070606@...626...> <4B277E5C.3070208@...1909...>
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	<384d3900912150752m630e5923o60deb7c906473160@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B280630.90000@...2337...>

Can anyone tell me how to save a gif image.
I can save other images, but  not gifs

gambas 2.18 on ubuntu 9.04

Regards
Les Hardy



From norarg at ...2311...  Wed Dec 16 15:56:25 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:56:25 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] problems with core functions
In-Reply-To: <4B288E78.3010906@...221...>
References: <4B288E78.3010906@...221...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP61323B2F64CB6EAFEFC508F9870@...693...>

hi

I am struggling with some nasty little things..
when I select a text or a part of a text in a textbox, and I want to 
copy this or paste from clipboard, the usual way is to use ctrl-c, 
ctrl-v. well, every software I know has a button too, making this 
possible. I tried to use the Desktop.Sendkeys, which works with "\t" 
f.ex., but I can not figure out how to send ctrl-c - tried ({[CTRL]C}) 
and ({[CTRL_L]C}). In the manual I get the information, all keys are 
defined in /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h - but this file does not exist 
on my system in this folder. Will be thankful for any help.

Then I tried with .SelStart and .SelLenght to get the string - that was 
not accepted at all, get  "unknown symbol".


It would be nice, if I could get this two different functions to work.

thanks and regards
norarg



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Dec 16 16:44:47 2009
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:44:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cannot save a gif image
In-Reply-To: <4B280630.90000@...2337...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...> 
	<4B27498C.4090403@...626...> <4B2754B8.4030007@...1909...> 
	<4B2766C3.9070009@...626...> <4B2774E8.6060401@...1909...> 
	<4B277AFB.8070606@...626...> <4B277E5C.3070208@...1909...> 
	<6324a42a0912150530o71d7cbeeq265252eb3fa02055@...627...> 
	<384d3900912150752m630e5923o60deb7c906473160@...627...> 
	<4B280630.90000@...2337...>
Message-ID: <384d3900912160744q3092b2e7rfa83a56d7dd13655@...627...>

Save gif from where?
Please show your code you are using to save other image formats.

Jussi


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 23:57, Les Hardy <les at ...2337...> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to save a gif image.
> I can save other images, but ?not gifs
>
> gambas 2.18 on ubuntu 9.04
>
> Regards
> Les Hardy
>
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From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Wed Dec 16 17:00:39 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:00:39 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] problems with core functions
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP61323B2F64CB6EAFEFC508F9870@...693...>
References: <4B288E78.3010906@...221...>
	<BLU0-SMTP61323B2F64CB6EAFEFC508F9870@...693...>
Message-ID: <f4c183100912160800n405608e1x3eceb0bc79665175@...627...>

use Clipboard.Copy("Text you want copy") and Clipboard.Paste()

http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/clipboard



2009/12/16 Norarg <norarg at ...2311...>

> hi
>
> I am struggling with some nasty little things..
> when I select a text or a part of a text in a textbox, and I want to
> copy this or paste from clipboard, the usual way is to use ctrl-c,
> ctrl-v. well, every software I know has a button too, making this
> possible. I tried to use the Desktop.Sendkeys, which works with "\t"
> f.ex., but I can not figure out how to send ctrl-c - tried ({[CTRL]C})
> and ({[CTRL_L]C}). In the manual I get the information, all keys are
> defined in /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h - but this file does not exist
> on my system in this folder. Will be thankful for any help.
>
> Then I tried with .SelStart and .SelLenght to get the string - that was
> not accepted at all, get  "unknown symbol".
>
>
> It would be nice, if I could get this two different functions to work.
>
> thanks and regards
> norarg
>
>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Dec 16 20:18:51 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:18:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cannot save a gif image
In-Reply-To: <384d3900912160744q3092b2e7rfa83a56d7dd13655@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<4B2754B8.4030007@...1909...> <4B2766C3.9070009@...626...>
	<4B2774E8.6060401@...1909...> <4B277AFB.8070606@...626...>
	<4B277E5C.3070208@...1909...>
	<6324a42a0912150530o71d7cbeeq265252eb3fa02055@...627...>
	<384d3900912150752m630e5923o60deb7c906473160@...627...>
	<4B280630.90000@...2337...>
	<384d3900912160744q3092b2e7rfa83a56d7dd13655@...627...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912161118m48a6e8aagb5d1d6cd35b49c83@...627...>

have you libgif installed ?

2009/12/16 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>:
> Save gif from where?
> Please show your code you are using to save other image formats.
>
> Jussi
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 23:57, Les Hardy <les at ...2337...> wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me how to save a gif image.
>> I can save other images, but ?not gifs
>>
>> gambas 2.18 on ubuntu 9.04
>>
>> Regards
>> Les Hardy
>>
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From jguardon at ...2035...  Wed Dec 16 20:35:50 2009
From: jguardon at ...2035... (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:35:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Custom error class
Message-ID: <4B293696.8060408@...2035...>

Hi all

Perhaps this is an stupid question, but I'm confused at this point:

I'm trying to implement a custom error message window with information
about an error raised within a CATCH clause, using the Error class from
Gambas. Here is the code I'm not able to get it working:

_The error form 'FError'_

PRIVATE $error AS String

PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
    ME.Center
    txtError.Clear
    txtError.Text = $error
END

PUBLIC SUB showError(myError AS Error)
    $error &= "[Error]\n" & myError.Text
    $error &= "\n[Where]\n" & myError.Where
    $error &= "\n[Backtrace]\n" & myError.Backtrace
    ME.ShowModal
END

PUBLIC SUB btnOk_Click()
    IF chkReport THEN
    ' TODO report error to a remote db
    ENDIF
    ME.Close
END

_Calling in a sub after CATCH_

CATCH
    FEerror.showError(Error)

-----

First of all, it is not possible to write "Error" keyword between the
two parenthesis, being formatted into "ERROR", syntactically wrong.

If I enclose the 'Error' keyword between curly brackets, as in
FErrors.showError({Error}) , no syntax error is raised, but a Gambas
error saying "Type mismatch: wanted Error, got Class instead".

What am I doing wrong, or is it possible to use this class the way I'm
doing?

Help appreciated!

Regards,

Jes?s



From les at ...2337...  Wed Dec 16 20:55:20 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:55:20 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cannot save a gif image
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912161118m48a6e8aagb5d1d6cd35b49c83@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<4B2754B8.4030007@...1909...>
	<4B2766C3.9070009@...626...>	<4B2774E8.6060401@...1909...>
	<4B277AFB.8070606@...626...>	<4B277E5C.3070208@...1909...>	<6324a42a0912150530o71d7cbeeq265252eb3fa02055@...627...>	<384d3900912150752m630e5923o60deb7c906473160@...627...>	<4B280630.90000@...2337...>	<384d3900912160744q3092b2e7rfa83a56d7dd13655@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912161118m48a6e8aagb5d1d6cd35b49c83@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B293B28.2060001@...2337...>


Yes, I have libgif-4.1.6-6. I tried reinstalling all image libraries 
that I could find.
Still no good.

Regards
Les Hardy



Fabien Bodard wrote:
> have you libgif installed ?
>
> 2009/12/16 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>:
>   
>> Save gif from where?
>> Please show your code you are using to save other image formats.
>>
>> Jussi
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 23:57, Les Hardy <les at ...2337...> wrote:
>>     
>>> Can anyone tell me how to save a gif image.
>>> I can save other images, but  not gifs
>>>
>>> gambas 2.18 on ubuntu 9.04
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Les Hardy
>>>
>>>       




From norarg at ...2311...  Wed Dec 16 21:08:37 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:08:37 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] problems with core functions
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100912160800n405608e1x3eceb0bc79665175@...627...>
References: <4B288E78.3010906@...221...>	<BLU0-SMTP61323B2F64CB6EAFEFC508F9870@...693...>
	<f4c183100912160800n405608e1x3eceb0bc79665175@...627...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP13DC68ACCC43B9D73E99AFF9870@...693...>

hi,

thanks, but how do I get this "Text I want to copy", it is selected, but 
somehow I have to make a string of it, before sending it to the 
clipboard. Somewhere I have seen SelStart, SelLength with Gambas, but 
just can not find that part any more - it seemed so clear, I did not 
give it any further notice - and that so clear part just does not work. 
:) btw. using ubuntu 09.10/gambas 2.13.

regards
norarg


Ricardo D?az Mart?n schrieb:
> use Clipboard.Copy("Text you want copy") and Clipboard.Paste()
>
> http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/clipboard
>
>
>
> 2009/12/16 Norarg <norarg at ...2311...>
>
>   
>> hi
>>
>> I am struggling with some nasty little things..
>> when I select a text or a part of a text in a textbox, and I want to
>> copy this or paste from clipboard, the usual way is to use ctrl-c,
>> ctrl-v. well, every software I know has a button too, making this
>> possible. I tried to use the Desktop.Sendkeys, which works with "\t"
>> f.ex., but I can not figure out how to send ctrl-c - tried ({[CTRL]C})
>> and ({[CTRL_L]C}). In the manual I get the information, all keys are
>> defined in /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h - but this file does not exist
>> on my system in this folder. Will be thankful for any help.
>>
>> Then I tried with .SelStart and .SelLenght to get the string - that was
>> not accepted at all, get  "unknown symbol".
>>
>>
>> It would be nice, if I could get this two different functions to work.
>>
>> thanks and regards
>> norarg
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
>> A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and
>> easy
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>>     
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>
>   



From jguardon at ...2035...  Wed Dec 16 21:16:00 2009
From: jguardon at ...2035... (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:16:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Weird Overflow error (GB_DIR)
Message-ID: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>

Hi all

I am experimenting with the GB_DIR environment variable, and I've made a
deb package with my program to install it in /opt. The current dir
structure is as follows:

jesus at ...2151...:~$ tree /opt
/opt
`-- dfhlog
    |-- dfhlog.gambas
    `-- gambas2
        |-- bin
        |   |-- gbr2 -> gbx2
        |   `-- gbx2
        `-- lib
            `-- gambas2
                |-- gb.component
                |-- gb.corba.component
                |-- ... etc
                ...etc...

I am calling my executable from a bash script located in /usr/local/bin

jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
#!/bin/sh
export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas

(In this case, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used, because they already are in
my system).

When I execute 'dfhlog' from the console the main form is shown, but I
got the error:

jesus at ...2151...:~$ dfhlog
global.?.0: #7: Overflow

(Also a message box is displayed with the error)

However my application runs fine when using the standard paths as always.

Am I missing something? Which is "Overflow" error related to?

Regards,

Jes?s







From les at ...2337...  Wed Dec 16 19:33:12 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:33:12 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cannot save a gif image
In-Reply-To: <384d3900912160744q3092b2e7rfa83a56d7dd13655@...627...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<4B27498C.4090403@...626...> <4B2754B8.4030007@...1909...>
	<4B2766C3.9070009@...626...> <4B2774E8.6060401@...1909...>
	<4B277AFB.8070606@...626...> <4B277E5C.3070208@...1909...>
	<6324a42a0912150530o71d7cbeeq265252eb3fa02055@...627...>
	<384d3900912150752m630e5923o60deb7c906473160@...627...>
	<4B280630.90000@...2337...>
	<384d3900912160744q3092b2e7rfa83a56d7dd13655@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B2927E8.80504@...2337...>

Thanks for responding Jussi,

The image is a result of an image.load previously in the code.
It may have been loaded as a gif, jpg, png or bmp.
 
'this works ok
imgfile = user.home &/ "tmpfile.jpg"
     imageout.Save(imgfile)
'------------------
'this works ok
imgfile = user.home &/ "tmpfile.png"
     imageout.Save(imgfile)
'------------------
' this does not work. error message say 'cannot save file'
imgfile = user.home &/ "tmpfile.gif"
     imageout.Save(imgfile)

I have written a few apps in gambas, with plenty of file handling, but I 
don't generally use  gifs.
I tried  it with images, pictures, pictureboxes. and in every case I can 
save anything but a gif.
Its driving me nuts. 
I cannot see any other postings about this problem. So I guess it must 
be something with my setup.

Have you any ideas of what to try next?

Regards
Les Hardy





Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> Save gif from where?
> Please show your code you are using to save other image formats.
>
> Jussi
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 23:57, Les Hardy <les at ...2337...> wrote:
>   
>> Can anyone tell me how to save a gif image.
>> I can save other images, but  not gifs
>>
>> gambas 2.18 on ubuntu 9.04
>>
>> Regards
>> Les Hardy
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
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>>     
>
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>   




From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 16 21:22:58 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cannot save a gif image
In-Reply-To: <4B2927E8.80504@...2337...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>
	<384d3900912160744q3092b2e7rfa83a56d7dd13655@...627...>
	<4B2927E8.80504@...2337...>
Message-ID: <200912162122.58455.gambas@...1...>

> Thanks for responding Jussi,
> 
> The image is a result of an image.load previously in the code.
> It may have been loaded as a gif, jpg, png or bmp.
> 
> 'this works ok
> imgfile = user.home &/ "tmpfile.jpg"
>      imageout.Save(imgfile)
> '------------------
> 'this works ok
> imgfile = user.home &/ "tmpfile.png"
>      imageout.Save(imgfile)
> '------------------
> ' this does not work. error message say 'cannot save file'
> imgfile = user.home &/ "tmpfile.gif"
>      imageout.Save(imgfile)
> 
> I have written a few apps in gambas, with plenty of file handling, but I
> don't generally use  gifs.
> I tried  it with images, pictures, pictureboxes. and in every case I can
> save anything but a gif.
> Its driving me nuts.
> I cannot see any other postings about this problem. So I guess it must
> be something with my setup.
> 
> Have you any ideas of what to try next?
> 
> Regards
> Les Hardy
> 

In Gambas 2, the image save function is managed by the GUI component: which 
one do you use? gb.qt or gb.gtk?

I know, for example, that Qt can be compiled without GIF support. So on a 
system with Qt compiled that way, Gambas projects using gb.qt won't be able to 
deal with gif files.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 16 21:24:08 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:24:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Weird Overflow error (GB_DIR)
In-Reply-To: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>
Message-ID: <200912162124.08443.gambas@...1...>

> Hi all
> 
> I am experimenting with the GB_DIR environment variable, and I've made a
> deb package with my program to install it in /opt. The current dir
> structure is as follows:
> 
> jesus at ...2151...:~$ tree /opt
> /opt
> `-- dfhlog
> 
>     |-- dfhlog.gambas
> 
>     `-- gambas2
> 
>         |-- bin
>         |
>         |   |-- gbr2 -> gbx2
>         |
>         |   `-- gbx2
> 
>         `-- lib
>             `-- gambas2
> 
>                 |-- gb.component
>                 |-- gb.corba.component
>                 |-- ... etc
> 
>                 ...etc...
> 
> I am calling my executable from a bash script located in /usr/local/bin
> 
> jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
> #!/bin/sh
> export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
> export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
> exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas
> 
> (In this case, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used, because they already are in
> my system).
> 
> When I execute 'dfhlog' from the console the main form is shown, but I
> got the error:
> 
> jesus at ...2151...:~$ dfhlog
> global.?.0: #7: Overflow
> 
> (Also a message box is displayed with the error)
> 
> However my application runs fine when using the standard paths as always.
> 
> Am I missing something? Which is "Overflow" error related to?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jes?s
> 
> 

Can you compile the gambas project (dfhlog.gambas) with debugging information 
included? Then maybe you will have the line number where the overflow error 
occurs.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 16 21:27:58 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:27:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Custom error class
In-Reply-To: <4B293696.8060408@...2035...>
References: <4B293696.8060408@...2035...>
Message-ID: <200912162127.58598.gambas@...1...>

> Hi all
> 
> Perhaps this is an stupid question, but I'm confused at this point:
> 
> I'm trying to implement a custom error message window with information
> about an error raised within a CATCH clause, using the Error class from
> Gambas. Here is the code I'm not able to get it working:
> 
> _The error form 'FError'_
> 
> PRIVATE $error AS String
> 
> PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
>     ME.Center
>     txtError.Clear
>     txtError.Text = $error
> END
> 
> PUBLIC SUB showError(myError AS Error)
>     $error &= "[Error]\n" & myError.Text
>     $error &= "\n[Where]\n" & myError.Where
>     $error &= "\n[Backtrace]\n" & myError.Backtrace
>     ME.ShowModal
> END
> 
> PUBLIC SUB btnOk_Click()
>     IF chkReport THEN
>     ' TODO report error to a remote db
>     ENDIF
>     ME.Close
> END
> 
> _Calling in a sub after CATCH_
> 
> CATCH
>     FEerror.showError(Error)
> 
> -----
> 
> First of all, it is not possible to write "Error" keyword between the
> two parenthesis, being formatted into "ERROR", syntactically wrong.
> 
> If I enclose the 'Error' keyword between curly brackets, as in
> FErrors.showError({Error}) , no syntax error is raised, but a Gambas
> error saying "Type mismatch: wanted Error, got Class instead".
> 
> What am I doing wrong, or is it possible to use this class the way I'm
> doing?
> 
> Help appreciated!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jes?s
> 

At the moment Error is a static class, you cannot instanciate it, and using it 
as a datatype is uselss. So don't use an argument, use the Error class 
everywhere.

The caveats of this design is that should save or use the Error class contents 
as soon as possible, otherwise another error or a function call may reset it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jguardon at ...2035...  Wed Dec 16 22:02:06 2009
From: jguardon at ...2035... (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:02:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Weird Overflow error (GB_DIR)
In-Reply-To: <200912162124.08443.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>
	<200912162124.08443.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B294ACE.5010304@...2035...>

Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I am experimenting with the GB_DIR environment variable, and I've made a
>> deb package with my program to install it in /opt. The current dir
>> structure is as follows:
>>
>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ tree /opt
>> /opt
>> `-- dfhlog
>>
>>     |-- dfhlog.gambas
>>
>>     `-- gambas2
>>
>>         |-- bin
>>         |
>>         |   |-- gbr2 -> gbx2
>>         |
>>         |   `-- gbx2
>>
>>         `-- lib
>>             `-- gambas2
>>
>>                 |-- gb.component
>>                 |-- gb.corba.component
>>                 |-- ... etc
>>
>>                 ...etc...
>>
>> I am calling my executable from a bash script located in /usr/local/bin
>>
>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
>> #!/bin/sh
>> export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
>> export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
>> exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas
>>
>> (In this case, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used, because they already are in
>> my system).
>>
>> When I execute 'dfhlog' from the console the main form is shown, but I
>> got the error:
>>
>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ dfhlog
>> global.?.0: #7: Overflow
>>
>> (Also a message box is displayed with the error)
>>
>> However my application runs fine when using the standard paths as always.
>>
>> Am I missing something? Which is "Overflow" error related to?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jes?s
>>
>>
> 
> Can you compile the gambas project (dfhlog.gambas) with debugging information 
> included? Then maybe you will have the line number where the overflow error 
> occurs.
> 

Thanks Beno?t

Surprisingly, after a recompile, it works as expected! May be I was
using an old executable file (dfhlog.gambas). Sorry for my mistake 8-(

Regards

Jes?s



From jguardon at ...2035...  Wed Dec 16 22:10:16 2009
From: jguardon at ...2035... (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:10:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Custom error class
In-Reply-To: <200912162127.58598.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B293696.8060408@...2035...>
	<200912162127.58598.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B294CB8.8050503@...2035...>

Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
>> Hi all
>>
>> Perhaps this is an stupid question, but I'm confused at this point:
>>
>> I'm trying to implement a custom error message window with information
>> about an error raised within a CATCH clause, using the Error class from
>> Gambas. Here is the code I'm not able to get it working:
>>
>> _The error form 'FError'_
>>
>> PRIVATE $error AS String
>>
>> PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
>>     ME.Center
>>     txtError.Clear
>>     txtError.Text = $error
>> END
>>
>> PUBLIC SUB showError(myError AS Error)
>>     $error &= "[Error]\n" & myError.Text
>>     $error &= "\n[Where]\n" & myError.Where
>>     $error &= "\n[Backtrace]\n" & myError.Backtrace
>>     ME.ShowModal
>> END
>>
>> PUBLIC SUB btnOk_Click()
>>     IF chkReport THEN
>>     ' TODO report error to a remote db
>>     ENDIF
>>     ME.Close
>> END
>>
>> _Calling in a sub after CATCH_
>>
>> CATCH
>>     FEerror.showError(Error)
>>
>> -----
>>
>> First of all, it is not possible to write "Error" keyword between the
>> two parenthesis, being formatted into "ERROR", syntactically wrong.
>>
>> If I enclose the 'Error' keyword between curly brackets, as in
>> FErrors.showError({Error}) , no syntax error is raised, but a Gambas
>> error saying "Type mismatch: wanted Error, got Class instead".
>>
>> What am I doing wrong, or is it possible to use this class the way I'm
>> doing?
>>
>> Help appreciated!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jes?s
>>
> 
> At the moment Error is a static class, you cannot instanciate it, and using it 
> as a datatype is uselss. So don't use an argument, use the Error class 
> everywhere.
> 
> The caveats of this design is that should save or use the Error class contents 
> as soon as possible, otherwise another error or a function call may reset it.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Mmmmm, I though so... I was trying to encapsulate it in a single
function, but I must reconsider this in other way.

Thanks anyway!

Regards,

Jes?s



From nando_f at ...951...  Wed Dec 16 22:13:51 2009
From: nando_f at ...951... (nando)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:13:51 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100912160246v4a2d2343sf5a2bd807933641a@...627...>
References: <200912160017.55108.gambas@...1...>
	<f4c183100912152340h60d0745eq3fe13da33329850a@...627...>
	<4B28A717.30802@...626...>
	<f4c183100912160246v4a2d2343sf5a2bd807933641a@...627...>
Message-ID: <20091216205625.M25383@...951...>

For your info only...
I always use INT or LONG for accounting and money.
So, (here in Canada), $42.87 is 4287
I keep the tax (8%) as a float, therefore 8.25% is 8.25
This is ok for tax because rounding is needed.
For example:

4287 * 8.25 = 35367.75 / 100 = 353.6775
add .5 for 5/4 round up down
= 354.1775
Plase result into INT var which becomes 354

4287 + 354 = 4641

Using Float for taxes allows for many decimal places.
Using 100 for /100 process allows for any currencies where 
you want more than 2 decimal places.

For correct printing without rounding errors, do not do 4287/100.
but rather take the STR$(4287),
then split the right two off, and place a decimal in that place.
Perfect math and exact calculations every single time!!!

-Fernando


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:46:40 +0000
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas

> Jean,
> 
> You can use numbers of decimal as you want. I you want 4 you only need to
> divide by 1000. The only you need to decide on before insert data. If you
> need to add more decimals in future you only have to modify a parameter in
> your app from 2 to 4 (functions that show from database/write to database
> currency values must read this values before show/write info) and update
> your database multiplying cur fields by 100 (to add two digit more of
> precision)
> 
> You never need truncate any value if you always use this especial currency
> type. For example if you set decimals to 4, number 19.99657 is no possible.
> 
> If you need to get selling prices using four decimal coefficient, define
> coefficient as a currency type and set your app to use 4 decimal for all
> "currency" values
> 
> I hope this helps you
> 
> 2009/12/16 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>
> 
> > Ricardo D?az Mart?n a ?crit :
> > > Hi to all,
> > >
> > > I'm use gambas to write ERP applications. At the first, I got the same
> > > problem but I decided to use long integer to save currency values. First
> > > rigth two digits are always showed to users as decimal values.
> > >
> > > I'm rewrited all my apps from windows to gambas and they are working now
> > > with no problems in customers servers.
> > >
> > > I allways use a function to show values in controls in app's forms that
> > > convert database fields values showed in textboxes whose name started int
> > > dbcur (p.e. dbcurVAT) to value div 100 and works with no problems. I use
> > > allways the same function to write forms data to database and make the
> > > reverse proccess.
> >
> > Hooo, thanks for the ad.
> >
> > > Its simple and works
> >
> > Sounds exactly like the commercial about women thin down cream we've
> > got on tv for months (it works!) (sorry, I couldn't resist:)
> >
> > So you're truncating everything to 2 decimals, but as I said VAT (and as
> > a matter of fact almost all french taxes) is *legally* up to 4 decimals;
> > actually only 2 of them are used, but nothing's saying that tomorrow
> > is won't be 3 or 4 really used (especially on those times where our
> > gov morons (pleonasm) are desesperatly looking for money.)
> >
> > BTW, how do you truncate 19.99657? Down to 19.99 or up to 20.00?
[WINDOWS-1252?]> > In my family's company a cent error is worth ?100,000 fine...
> >
> > Other PB: most of results could be predictable (as of Nb of decimals),
> > but some can't (ie: 92.95x1.196=111.1682 OR 145x1.196=173.42),
> > maths says decimals should be dN1+dN2=5 but in these cases we only have
> > 4 and 2 because of non-significant right zeroes, so you can't obviously
> > truncate by adding the comma counting 5 from the right.
> > One of the most used manner to get a selling price is to use a coefficient
> > which has many decimals (usually a real), how do you determine where to
> > put the comma in the resultant number??
> >
> > I see the possibilities, but AFAIK this is a full processor to write
> > based on a complex numbers model, not to mention error possibilities
> > have a tremendous cataclysmic potential in a matter where tax
> > administration will be more than happy to chop your head and piss
> > on your brain (yeah, they're like that here: when they come it is
> > not to search, it is to find; no matter if has real justification or not.)
> >
> > But may be I'm totally mistaking: I always have had PBs with simple
> > things.
> >
> > JY
> > --
> > God is real, unless declared integer.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community
> > Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
> > A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and
> > easy
> > Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers
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> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
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From les at ...2337...  Wed Dec 16 22:20:03 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:20:03 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cannot save a gif image
In-Reply-To: <200912162122.58455.gambas@...1...>
References: <61452b690912140732w6dd57e7fw1f3efe87082f0e46@...627...>	<384d3900912160744q3092b2e7rfa83a56d7dd13655@...627...>	<4B2927E8.80504@...2337...>
	<200912162122.58455.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B294F03.2090805@...2337...>

Yes, You have it.  Just checked. Looks like QImageIO was compiled 
without gif support on ubuntu 9.04 , and I am using gb.qt.

My Thanks to all that responded.

Regards
Les Hardy



Beno?t Minisini wrote:

> 
> In Gambas 2, the image save function is managed by the GUI component: which 
> one do you use? gb.qt or gb.gtk?
> 
> I know, for example, that Qt can be compiled without GIF support. So on a 
> system with Qt compiled that way, Gambas projects using gb.qt won't be able to 
> deal with gif files.
> 
> Regards,
> 





From mohareve at ...626...  Wed Dec 16 23:20:36 2009
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:20:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to force a normal number output?
Message-ID: <cf2b66e0912161420j2b14ddbeh727b1bf7dca05a85@...627...>

I need to have a normal decimal output without E+degree notation. How to
force Gambas to use 153879 instead of 1.53879E+5?


From steven at ...2097...  Thu Dec 17 04:29:33 2009
From: steven at ...2097... (Steven James Drinnan)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:29:33 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <20091216205625.M25383@...951...>
References: <200912160017.55108.gambas@...1...>
	<f4c183100912152340h60d0745eq3fe13da33329850a@...627...>
	<4B28A717.30802@...626...>
	<f4c183100912160246v4a2d2343sf5a2bd807933641a@...627...>
	<20091216205625.M25383@...951...>
Message-ID: <1261020579.5486.148.camel@...2273...>

Sorry - 

AS for mySQL it also has round() and you use the same as the gambas
function.

Steven

On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 16:13 -0500, nando wrote:

> For your info only...
> I always use INT or LONG for accounting and money.
> So, (here in Canada), $42.87 is 4287
> I keep the tax (8%) as a float, therefore 8.25% is 8.25
> This is ok for tax because rounding is needed.
> For example:
> 
> 4287 * 8.25 = 35367.75 / 100 = 353.6775
> add .5 for 5/4 round up down
> = 354.1775
> Plase result into INT var which becomes 354
> 
> 4287 + 354 = 4641
> 
> Using Float for taxes allows for many decimal places.
> Using 100 for /100 process allows for any currencies where 
> you want more than 2 decimal places.
> 
> For correct printing without rounding errors, do not do 4287/100.
> but rather take the STR$(4287),
> then split the right two off, and place a decimal in that place.
> Perfect math and exact calculations every single time!!!
> 
> -Fernando
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>
> To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:46:40 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas
> 
> > Jean,
> > 
> > You can use numbers of decimal as you want. I you want 4 you only need to
> > divide by 1000. The only you need to decide on before insert data. If you
> > need to add more decimals in future you only have to modify a parameter in
> > your app from 2 to 4 (functions that show from database/write to database
> > currency values must read this values before show/write info) and update
> > your database multiplying cur fields by 100 (to add two digit more of
> > precision)
> > 
> > You never need truncate any value if you always use this especial currency
> > type. For example if you set decimals to 4, number 19.99657 is no possible.
> > 
> > If you need to get selling prices using four decimal coefficient, define
> > coefficient as a currency type and set your app to use 4 decimal for all
> > "currency" values
> > 
> > I hope this helps you
> > 
> > 2009/12/16 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>
> > 
> > > Ricardo D?az Mart?n a ?crit :
> > > > Hi to all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm use gambas to write ERP applications. At the first, I got the same
> > > > problem but I decided to use long integer to save currency values. First
> > > > rigth two digits are always showed to users as decimal values.
> > > >
> > > > I'm rewrited all my apps from windows to gambas and they are working now
> > > > with no problems in customers servers.
> > > >
> > > > I allways use a function to show values in controls in app's forms that
> > > > convert database fields values showed in textboxes whose name started int
> > > > dbcur (p.e. dbcurVAT) to value div 100 and works with no problems. I use
> > > > allways the same function to write forms data to database and make the
> > > > reverse proccess.
> > >
> > > Hooo, thanks for the ad.
> > >
> > > > Its simple and works
> > >
> > > Sounds exactly like the commercial about women thin down cream we've
> > > got on tv for months (it works!) (sorry, I couldn't resist:)
> > >
> > > So you're truncating everything to 2 decimals, but as I said VAT (and as
> > > a matter of fact almost all french taxes) is *legally* up to 4 decimals;
> > > actually only 2 of them are used, but nothing's saying that tomorrow
> > > is won't be 3 or 4 really used (especially on those times where our
> > > gov morons (pleonasm) are desesperatly looking for money.)
> > >
> > > BTW, how do you truncate 19.99657? Down to 19.99 or up to 20.00?
> [WINDOWS-1252?]> > In my family's company a cent error is worth ?100,000 fine...
> > >
> > > Other PB: most of results could be predictable (as of Nb of decimals),
> > > but some can't (ie: 92.95x1.196=111.1682 OR 145x1.196=173.42),
> > > maths says decimals should be dN1+dN2=5 but in these cases we only have
> > > 4 and 2 because of non-significant right zeroes, so you can't obviously
> > > truncate by adding the comma counting 5 from the right.
> > > One of the most used manner to get a selling price is to use a coefficient
> > > which has many decimals (usually a real), how do you determine where to
> > > put the comma in the resultant number??
> > >
> > > I see the possibilities, but AFAIK this is a full processor to write
> > > based on a complex numbers model, not to mention error possibilities
> > > have a tremendous cataclysmic potential in a matter where tax
> > > administration will be more than happy to chop your head and piss
> > > on your brain (yeah, they're like that here: when they come it is
> > > not to search, it is to find; no matter if has real justification or not.)
> > >
> > > But may be I'm totally mistaking: I always have had PBs with simple
> > > things.
> > >
> > > JY
> > > --
> > > God is real, unless declared integer.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community
> > > Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
> > > A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and
> > > easy
> > > Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers
> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
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> > >
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> 
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From steven at ...2097...  Thu Dec 17 04:21:08 2009
From: steven at ...2097... (Steven James Drinnan)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:21:08 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas
In-Reply-To: <20091216205625.M25383@...951...>
References: <200912160017.55108.gambas@...1...>
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	<4B28A717.30802@...626...>
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Message-ID: <1261020069.5486.147.camel@...2273...>

Just to add my two cents worth, 

This problem has been around for eons and it does not only apply to
Gambas. When I was programming in Access and VB I had the same problem
even using the currency type.

I just use the Round function

Value = Round ( Number [ , Digits ] )


And I use this return variable in my database. 
 
This is the only way to make sure that rounding is done right. I found
that even with a currency data type it tended to truncate rather than
round.

By the way you should be able to insert into a stored procedure. I did
so in Access. In MySql I found that it has the TRUNCATE() command so you
can do this


SELECT Truncate( ((YourNumber * 10^dp) + 0.5) / (10^dp) , dp )  *this
will round correctly where dp is the number of dp that you need.

You will have to check the sql manual to see what command is supported
for your database.

        

        


On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 16:13 -0500, nando wrote:

> For your info only...
> I always use INT or LONG for accounting and money.
> So, (here in Canada), $42.87 is 4287
> I keep the tax (8%) as a float, therefore 8.25% is 8.25
> This is ok for tax because rounding is needed.
> For example:
> 
> 4287 * 8.25 = 35367.75 / 100 = 353.6775
> add .5 for 5/4 round up down
> = 354.1775
> Plase result into INT var which becomes 354
> 
> 4287 + 354 = 4641
> 
> Using Float for taxes allows for many decimal places.
> Using 100 for /100 process allows for any currencies where 
> you want more than 2 decimal places.
> 
> For correct printing without rounding errors, do not do 4287/100.
> but rather take the STR$(4287),
> then split the right two off, and place a decimal in that place.
> Perfect math and exact calculations every single time!!!
> 
> -Fernando
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>
> To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:46:40 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] About financial program in Gambas
> 
> > Jean,
> > 
> > You can use numbers of decimal as you want. I you want 4 you only need to
> > divide by 1000. The only you need to decide on before insert data. If you
> > need to add more decimals in future you only have to modify a parameter in
> > your app from 2 to 4 (functions that show from database/write to database
> > currency values must read this values before show/write info) and update
> > your database multiplying cur fields by 100 (to add two digit more of
> > precision)
> > 
> > You never need truncate any value if you always use this especial currency
> > type. For example if you set decimals to 4, number 19.99657 is no possible.
> > 
> > If you need to get selling prices using four decimal coefficient, define
> > coefficient as a currency type and set your app to use 4 decimal for all
> > "currency" values
> > 
> > I hope this helps you
> > 
> > 2009/12/16 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at ...626...>
> > 
> > > Ricardo D?az Mart?n a ?crit :
> > > > Hi to all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm use gambas to write ERP applications. At the first, I got the same
> > > > problem but I decided to use long integer to save currency values. First
> > > > rigth two digits are always showed to users as decimal values.
> > > >
> > > > I'm rewrited all my apps from windows to gambas and they are working now
> > > > with no problems in customers servers.
> > > >
> > > > I allways use a function to show values in controls in app's forms that
> > > > convert database fields values showed in textboxes whose name started int
> > > > dbcur (p.e. dbcurVAT) to value div 100 and works with no problems. I use
> > > > allways the same function to write forms data to database and make the
> > > > reverse proccess.
> > >
> > > Hooo, thanks for the ad.
> > >
> > > > Its simple and works
> > >
> > > Sounds exactly like the commercial about women thin down cream we've
> > > got on tv for months (it works!) (sorry, I couldn't resist:)
> > >
> > > So you're truncating everything to 2 decimals, but as I said VAT (and as
> > > a matter of fact almost all french taxes) is *legally* up to 4 decimals;
> > > actually only 2 of them are used, but nothing's saying that tomorrow
> > > is won't be 3 or 4 really used (especially on those times where our
> > > gov morons (pleonasm) are desesperatly looking for money.)
> > >
> > > BTW, how do you truncate 19.99657? Down to 19.99 or up to 20.00?
> [WINDOWS-1252?]> > In my family's company a cent error is worth ?100,000 fine...
> > >
> > > Other PB: most of results could be predictable (as of Nb of decimals),
> > > but some can't (ie: 92.95x1.196=111.1682 OR 145x1.196=173.42),
> > > maths says decimals should be dN1+dN2=5 but in these cases we only have
> > > 4 and 2 because of non-significant right zeroes, so you can't obviously
> > > truncate by adding the comma counting 5 from the right.
> > > One of the most used manner to get a selling price is to use a coefficient
> > > which has many decimals (usually a real), how do you determine where to
> > > put the comma in the resultant number??
> > >
> > > I see the possibilities, but AFAIK this is a full processor to write
> > > based on a complex numbers model, not to mention error possibilities
> > > have a tremendous cataclysmic potential in a matter where tax
> > > administration will be more than happy to chop your head and piss
> > > on your brain (yeah, they're like that here: when they come it is
> > > not to search, it is to find; no matter if has real justification or not.)
> > >
> > > But may be I'm totally mistaking: I always have had PBs with simple
> > > things.
> > >
> > > JY
> > > --
> > > God is real, unless declared integer.
> > >
> > >
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From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Thu Dec 17 09:22:19 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:22:19 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] problems with core functions
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP13DC68ACCC43B9D73E99AFF9870@...693...>
References: <4B288E78.3010906@...221...>
	<BLU0-SMTP61323B2F64CB6EAFEFC508F9870@...693...>
	<f4c183100912160800n405608e1x3eceb0bc79665175@...627...>
	<BLU0-SMTP13DC68ACCC43B9D73E99AFF9870@...693...>
Message-ID: <f4c183100912170022n7795237aud9772e231dc3a8e4@...627...>

Norag,

It's something like this:

Dim aux as String

aux = FormWithTheTextBox.NameOfTextbox.Selection.Text



Is a pleasure to help someone but I recommend to you read documentation on
before write in mailing list.

Please visit http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/textbox

You only have to read for a while...

Regards


2009/12/16 Norarg <norarg at ...2311...>

> hi,
>
> thanks, but how do I get this "Text I want to copy", it is selected, but
> somehow I have to make a string of it, before sending it to the
> clipboard. Somewhere I have seen SelStart, SelLength with Gambas, but
> just can not find that part any more - it seemed so clear, I did not
> give it any further notice - and that so clear part just does not work.
> :) btw. using ubuntu 09.10/gambas 2.13.
>
> regards
> norarg
>
>
> Ricardo D?az Mart?n schrieb:
> > use Clipboard.Copy("Text you want copy") and Clipboard.Paste()
> >
> > http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/clipboard
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/12/16 Norarg <norarg at ...2311...>
> >
> >
> >> hi
> >>
> >> I am struggling with some nasty little things..
> >> when I select a text or a part of a text in a textbox, and I want to
> >> copy this or paste from clipboard, the usual way is to use ctrl-c,
> >> ctrl-v. well, every software I know has a button too, making this
> >> possible. I tried to use the Desktop.Sendkeys, which works with "\t"
> >> f.ex., but I can not figure out how to send ctrl-c - tried ({[CTRL]C})
> >> and ({[CTRL_L]C}). In the manual I get the information, all keys are
> >> defined in /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h - but this file does not exist
> >> on my system in this folder. Will be thankful for any help.
> >>
> >> Then I tried with .SelStart and .SelLenght to get the string - that was
> >> not accepted at all, get  "unknown symbol".
> >>
> >>
> >> It would be nice, if I could get this two different functions to work.
> >>
> >> thanks and regards
> >> norarg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community
> >> Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
> >> A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and
> >> easy
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> >>
> >>
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>
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From mohareve at ...626...  Thu Dec 17 11:21:03 2009
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:21:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems retrieving the original values
Message-ID: <cf2b66e0912170221q5b98dc78o69f66bcd123500c2@...627...>

I have a database file in Sqlite which has a REAL type field.When I browse
the database in a terminal I have a value 581927884.0, but when I retrieve
it to a table!"Size" variable it prints out as 5.819279E+8 which makes
troubles for me. Can I have the original number format?


From norarg at ...2311...  Thu Dec 17 12:38:47 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (Norarg)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:38:47 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] problems with core functions
In-Reply-To: <f4c183100912170022n7795237aud9772e231dc3a8e4@...627...>
References: <4B288E78.3010906@...221...>	<BLU0-SMTP61323B2F64CB6EAFEFC508F9870@...693...>	<f4c183100912160800n405608e1x3eceb0bc79665175@...627...>	<BLU0-SMTP13DC68ACCC43B9D73E99AFF9870@...693...>
	<f4c183100912170022n7795237aud9772e231dc3a8e4@...627...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP35C2F7AA9E970BDB1965D0F9860@...693...>

thanks,

yes I know,

but I just did not find this in the documentation, or overread the part 
I should have seen.
I searched for a pretty while before I posted this.

sorry
regards
norarg

Ricardo D?az Mart?n schrieb:
> Norag,
>
> It's something like this:
>
> Dim aux as String
>
> aux = FormWithTheTextBox.NameOfTextbox.Selection.Text
>
>
>
> Is a pleasure to help someone but I recommend to you read documentation on
> before write in mailing list.
>
> Please visit http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/textbox
>
> You only have to read for a while...
>
> Regards
>
>
> 2009/12/16 Norarg <norarg at ...2311...>
>
>   
>> hi,
>>
>> thanks, but how do I get this "Text I want to copy", it is selected, but
>> somehow I have to make a string of it, before sending it to the
>> clipboard. Somewhere I have seen SelStart, SelLength with Gambas, but
>> just can not find that part any more - it seemed so clear, I did not
>> give it any further notice - and that so clear part just does not work.
>> :) btw. using ubuntu 09.10/gambas 2.13.
>>
>> regards
>> norarg
>>
>>
>> Ricardo D?az Mart?n schrieb:
>>     
>>> use Clipboard.Copy("Text you want copy") and Clipboard.Paste()
>>>
>>> http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/clipboard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/12/16 Norarg <norarg at ...2311...>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> hi
>>>>
>>>> I am struggling with some nasty little things..
>>>> when I select a text or a part of a text in a textbox, and I want to
>>>> copy this or paste from clipboard, the usual way is to use ctrl-c,
>>>> ctrl-v. well, every software I know has a button too, making this
>>>> possible. I tried to use the Desktop.Sendkeys, which works with "\t"
>>>> f.ex., but I can not figure out how to send ctrl-c - tried ({[CTRL]C})
>>>> and ({[CTRL_L]C}). In the manual I get the information, all keys are
>>>> defined in /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h - but this file does not exist
>>>> on my system in this folder. Will be thankful for any help.
>>>>
>>>> Then I tried with .SelStart and .SelLenght to get the string - that was
>>>> not accepted at all, get  "unknown symbol".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be nice, if I could get this two different functions to work.
>>>>
>>>> thanks and regards
>>>> norarg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
>>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community
>>>> Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
>>>> A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and
>>>> easy
>>>> Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers
>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community
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>>>       
>> easy
>>     
>>> Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
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>> A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and
>> easy
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>>     
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>
>   



From nando_f at ...951...  Thu Dec 17 18:36:45 2009
From: nando_f at ...951... (nando)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:36:45 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems retrieving the original values
In-Reply-To: <cf2b66e0912170221q5b98dc78o69f66bcd123500c2@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912170221q5b98dc78o69f66bcd123500c2@...627...>
Message-ID: <20091217173248.M56280@...951...>

SQLite REAL  is 8B IEEE floating point number
Gambas FLOAT is the exact same thing.

1. Make sure your Gambas var is FLOAT and not SINGLE
2. What you see 5.819279E+8 is only a visual representation to humans of
   what the value really is.  Use FORMAT$ to represent it differently the
   way you want.

-Fernando


---------- Original Message -----------
From: "M. Cs." <mohareve at ...626...>
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:21:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems retrieving the original values

> I have a database file in Sqlite which has a REAL type field.When I browse
> the database in a terminal I have a value 581927884.0, but when I retrieve
> it to a table!"Size" variable it prints out as 5.819279E+8 which makes
> troubles for me. Can I have the original number format?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community
> Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
> A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy
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------- End of Original Message -------




From prog at ...2177...  Thu Dec 17 20:01:25 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:01:25 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form in
	/usr/local/lib/gambas2]
Message-ID: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>

Hello. 

When I create a new project with database support. The hidden file .
project  show me the  components that are needed to run the
application. 

Example.

# Gambas Project File 2.0
Title=myproject
Startup=FMain
Library=gb.db
Library=gb.gtk
Library=gb.gtk.ext
Library=gb.form =>NOT FOUND
Library=gb.db.form

All the components I could find in the folder / usr/local/lib/gambas2 /
but that is not the only component is the gb.form.
How can I locate it, or refers to another component in particular?.

Regards

[OperatingSystem]
OperatingSystem=Linux
KernelRelease=2.6.28-14-generic
DistributionVendor=ubuntu
DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 9.04"

[System]
CPUArchitecture=i686
TotalRam=1026628 kB

[Gambas]
Gambas1=Not Installed
Gambas2=2.18.0
Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
Gambas3=Not Installed


From prog at ...2177...  Thu Dec 17 19:20:10 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:20:10 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Not Found component gb.form in /usr/local/lib/gambas2
Message-ID: <1261074010.3629.6.camel@...651...>

Hello. 

When I create a new project with database support. The hidden file .
project  show me the  components that are needed to run the
application. 

Example.

# Gambas Project File 2.0
Title=myproject
Startup=FMain
Library=gb.db
Library=gb.gtk
Library=gb.gtk.ext
Library=gb.form =>NOT FOUND
Library=gb.db.form

All the components I could find in the folder / usr/local/lib/gambas2 /
but that is not the only component is the gb.form.
 How can I locate it, or refers to another component in particular?.

Regards

[OperatingSystem]
OperatingSystem=Linux
KernelRelease=2.6.28-14-generic
DistributionVendor=ubuntu
DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 9.04"

[System]
CPUArchitecture=i686
TotalRam=1026628 kB

[Gambas]
Gambas1=Not Installed
Gambas2=2.18.0
Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
Gambas3=Not Installed


From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec 18 11:53:09 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:53:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form in
	/usr/local/lib/gambas2]
In-Reply-To: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>
References: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>
Message-ID: <200912181153.09038.gambas@...1...>

> Hello.
> 
> When I create a new project with database support. The hidden file .
> project  show me the  components that are needed to run the
> application.
> 
> Example.
> 
> # Gambas Project File 2.0
> Title=myproject
> Startup=FMain
> Library=gb.db
> Library=gb.gtk
> Library=gb.gtk.ext
> Library=gb.form =>NOT FOUND
> Library=gb.db.form
> 
> All the components I could find in the folder / usr/local/lib/gambas2 /
> but that is not the only component is the gb.form.
> How can I locate it, or refers to another component in particular?.
> 
> Regards
> 

Your installation of Gambas is apparently broken. How did you install it?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Fri Dec 18 14:54:49 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:54:49 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form in
 /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
In-Reply-To: <200912181153.09038.gambas@...1...>
References: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>
	<200912181153.09038.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1261144489.3637.7.camel@...651...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
Fecha: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:53:09 +0100

> Hello.
> 
> When I create a new project with database support. The hidden file .
> project  show me the  components that are needed to run the
> application.
> 
> Example.
> 
> # Gambas Project File 2.0
> Title=myproject
> Startup=FMain
> Library=gb.db
> Library=gb.gtk
> Library=gb.gtk.ext
> Library=gb.form =>NOT FOUND
> Library=gb.db.form
> 
> All the components I could find in the folder / usr/local/lib/gambas2 /
> but that is not the only component is the gb.form.
> How can I locate it, or refers to another component in particular?.
> 
> Regards
> 

> Your installation of Gambas is apparently broken. How did you install it?

Hi Benoit, thanks for responding. 

I tell you, I'm trying to do an install script of my programs in order
to distribute other equipment. I need to copy all the shared libraries
needed by components Gambas.
 
To do this read the file (. Project) and then run ldd <component>
instruction. The script finds all least gb.form component.
 
I have no problems running Gambas and run my programs, just do not find
the component gb.form in the folder /usr/local/lib/gambas2. 

The installation I do is the next to my computer with Ubuntu 9.04. 

1) Position needed packages: 

sudo apt-get install build-essential autoconf libbz2-dev libfbclient2
libgnorba-dev libmysqlclient15-dev unixodbc-dev libpq-dev libsqlite0-dev
libsqlite3-dev libgtk2.0-dev libldap2-dev gnutls-dev
libcurl4-libgtkglext1-dev libpcre3-dev libsdl-dev
libsdl-sound1.2-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsage-dev libxml2-dev
libxslt1-dev libbonobo2-dev libcos4-dev libomniorb4-dev librsvg2-dev-dev
libpoppler libpoppler-glib-dev libesd0-dev libasound2-dev libesd-alsa0
libdirectfb-dev-dev libaa1 libxtst-dev libffi-dev kdelibs4-dev
firebird2.1-dev libqt4-dev 

2) After installing I always: 

$ Cd / usr/src/gambas2-2.18.0 
$ Sudo. / Configure-C 
$ Sudo make 
$ Sudo make install 

After that I normally run my program. 

I see the folder / usr/local/lib/gambas2 has a component gb.form.gambas
there any connection between the component gb.form?. 

Any help on this point I would appreciate it.

Regards

[OperatingSystem]
OperatingSystem=Linux
KernelRelease=2.6.28-14-generic
DistributionVendor=ubuntu
DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 9.04"

[System]
CPUArchitecture=i686
TotalRam=1026628 kB

[Gambas]
Gambas1=Not Installed
Gambas2=2.18.0
Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
Gambas3=Not Installed




From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec 18 15:33:07 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:33:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form in
	/usr/local/lib/gambas2]
In-Reply-To: <1261144489.3637.7.camel@...651...>
References: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>
	<200912181153.09038.gambas@...1...>
	<1261144489.3637.7.camel@...651...>
Message-ID: <200912181533.07747.gambas@...1...>

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
> in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
> Fecha: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:53:09 +0100
> 
> > Hello.
> >
> > When I create a new project with database support. The hidden file .
> > project  show me the  components that are needed to run the
> > application.
> >
> > Example.
> >
> > # Gambas Project File 2.0
> > Title=myproject
> > Startup=FMain
> > Library=gb.db
> > Library=gb.gtk
> > Library=gb.gtk.ext
> > Library=gb.form =>NOT FOUND
> > Library=gb.db.form
> >
> > All the components I could find in the folder / usr/local/lib/gambas2 /
> > but that is not the only component is the gb.form.
> > How can I locate it, or refers to another component in particular?.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Your installation of Gambas is apparently broken. How did you install it?
> 
> Hi Benoit, thanks for responding.
> 
> I tell you, I'm trying to do an install script of my programs in order
> to distribute other equipment. I need to copy all the shared libraries
> needed by components Gambas.
> 
> To do this read the file (. Project) and then run ldd <component>
> instruction. The script finds all least gb.form component.
> 
> I have no problems running Gambas and run my programs, just do not find
> the component gb.form in the folder /usr/local/lib/gambas2.
> 

gb.form is a component written in gambas, so you have only the gb.form.gambas 
and gb.form.component files in the lib/gambas2 directory.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Fri Dec 18 15:45:52 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:45:52 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form in
 /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
In-Reply-To: <200912181533.07747.gambas@...1...>
References: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>
	<200912181153.09038.gambas@...1...>
	<1261144489.3637.7.camel@...651...>
	<200912181533.07747.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1261147552.3637.9.camel@...651...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
Fecha: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:33:07 +0100

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
> in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
> Fecha: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:53:09 +0100
> 
> > Hello.
> >
> > When I create a new project with database support. The hidden file .
> > project  show me the  components that are needed to run the
> > application.
> >
> > Example.
> >
> > # Gambas Project File 2.0
> > Title=myproject
> > Startup=FMain
> > Library=gb.db
> > Library=gb.gtk
> > Library=gb.gtk.ext
> > Library=gb.form =>NOT FOUND
> > Library=gb.db.form
> >
> > All the components I could find in the folder / usr/local/lib/gambas2 /
> > but that is not the only component is the gb.form.
> > How can I locate it, or refers to another component in particular?.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Your installation of Gambas is apparently broken. How did you install it?
> 
> Hi Benoit, thanks for responding.
> 
> I tell you, I'm trying to do an install script of my programs in order
> to distribute other equipment. I need to copy all the shared libraries
> needed by components Gambas.
> 
> To do this read the file (. Project) and then run ldd <component>
> instruction. The script finds all least gb.form component.
> 
> I have no problems running Gambas and run my programs, just do not find
> the component gb.form in the folder /usr/local/lib/gambas2.
> 

>gb.form is a component written in gambas, so you have only the gb.form.gambas 
>and gb.form.component files in the lib/gambas2 directory.
>
>Regards,

Hello.

So I need the component gb.form?. 

If so, why I run my applications, if required this component, because
when you create a basic gtk application, me included?.

What would that do to include it in my collection?, Or is it normal that
I receive?.

Regards.




From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Fri Dec 18 18:06:23 2009
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:06:23 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] mysql mediumtext/longtext fields
Message-ID: <f4c183100912180906i358e125bk743eb4d5a82f254@...627...>

Is it possible to get content of these kind of fields from gambas db
component and show it in textboxes?

Regards,

Ricardo D?az


From jguardon at ...2035...  Fri Dec 18 23:02:11 2009
From: jguardon at ...2035... (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:02:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL not working (GB_DIR)
In-Reply-To: <4B294ACE.5010304@...2035...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>	<200912162124.08443.gambas@...1...>
	<4B294ACE.5010304@...2035...>
Message-ID: <4B2BFBE3.4080101@...2035...>

Jesus Guardon escribi?:
> Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I am experimenting with the GB_DIR environment variable, and I've made a
>>> deb package with my program to install it in /opt. The current dir
>>> structure is as follows:
>>>
>>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ tree /opt
>>> /opt
>>> `-- dfhlog
>>>
>>>     |-- dfhlog.gambas
>>>
>>>     `-- gambas2
>>>
>>>         |-- bin
>>>         |
>>>         |   |-- gbr2 -> gbx2
>>>         |
>>>         |   `-- gbx2
>>>
>>>         `-- lib
>>>             `-- gambas2
>>>
>>>                 |-- gb.component
>>>                 |-- gb.corba.component
>>>                 |-- ... etc
>>>
>>>                 ...etc...
>>>
>>> I am calling my executable from a bash script located in /usr/local/bin
>>>
>>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
>>> #!/bin/sh
>>> export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
>>> export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
>>> exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas
>>>
>>> (In this case, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used, because they already are in
>>> my system).
<snip>
> Thanks Beno?t
> 
> Surprisingly, after a recompile, it works as expected! May be I was
> using an old executable file (dfhlog.gambas). Sorry for my mistake 8-(
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jes?s

Hi again

Continuing my testings on GB_DIR, I'm running into a new problem: SHELL
command has no effect at all. All sentences using SHELL are not
executed. As you can guess, running my project executable the normal way
(not using GB_DIR) it is running right. Could this be a bug?

Thanks in advance.

Jes?s



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Dec 18 23:24:55 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:24:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL not working (GB_DIR)
In-Reply-To: <4B2BFBE3.4080101@...2035...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...> <4B294ACE.5010304@...2035...>
	<4B2BFBE3.4080101@...2035...>
Message-ID: <200912182324.55399.gambas@...1...>

> Jesus Guardon escribi?:
> > Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
> >>> Hi all
> >>>
> >>> I am experimenting with the GB_DIR environment variable, and I've made
> >>> a deb package with my program to install it in /opt. The current dir
> >>> structure is as follows:
> >>>
> >>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ tree /opt
> >>> /opt
> >>> `-- dfhlog
> >>>
> >>>     |-- dfhlog.gambas
> >>>
> >>>     `-- gambas2
> >>>
> >>>         |-- bin
> >>>         |
> >>>         |   |-- gbr2 -> gbx2
> >>>         |
> >>>         |   `-- gbx2
> >>>
> >>>         `-- lib
> >>>             `-- gambas2
> >>>
> >>>                 |-- gb.component
> >>>                 |-- gb.corba.component
> >>>                 |-- ... etc
> >>>
> >>>                 ...etc...
> >>>
> >>> I am calling my executable from a bash script located in /usr/local/bin
> >>>
> >>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
> >>> #!/bin/sh
> >>> export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
> >>> export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
> >>> exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas
> >>>
> >>> (In this case, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used, because they already are in
> >>> my system).
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > Thanks Beno?t
> >
> > Surprisingly, after a recompile, it works as expected! May be I was
> > using an old executable file (dfhlog.gambas). Sorry for my mistake 8-(
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jes?s
> 
> Hi again
> 
> Continuing my testings on GB_DIR, I'm running into a new problem: SHELL
> command has no effect at all. All sentences using SHELL are not
> executed. As you can guess, running my project executable the normal way
> (not using GB_DIR) it is running right. Could this be a bug?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Jes?s
> 

SHELL is just an equivalent of EXEC ["sh", "-c", "XXX"] where "XXX" is the 
string passed to the SHELL command.

Do you have any error message from gambas? I need as many details as possible!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jguardon at ...2035...  Sat Dec 19 00:27:10 2009
From: jguardon at ...2035... (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:27:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL not working (GB_DIR)
In-Reply-To: <200912182324.55399.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>
	<4B294ACE.5010304@...2035...>	<4B2BFBE3.4080101@...2035...>
	<200912182324.55399.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B2C0FCE.2060500@...2035...>

>> Hi again
>>
>> Continuing my testings on GB_DIR, I'm running into a new problem: SHELL
>> command has no effect at all. All sentences using SHELL are not
>> executed. As you can guess, running my project executable the normal way
>> (not using GB_DIR) it is running right. Could this be a bug?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Jes?s
>>
> 

Thanks for the quick reply

> SHELL is just an equivalent of EXEC ["sh", "-c", "XXX"] where "XXX" is the 
> string passed to the SHELL command.

Yes, I know...

> 
> Do you have any error message from gambas? I need as many details as possible!
> 
> Regards,

Not at all. No error message is displayed, simply SHELL command seems to
be ignored by the interpreter.
As for launch my program I'm using a shell script (you can see it in the
previous posts), I'm not able to run gdb against myprogram.gambas, or
myprogram (without .sh extension).

A simple example could be a function I'm using to know if a program is
running:

SHELL "pidof " & someprocess TO somevariable

This sentence is "bypassed" without notice...
The same for all others sentences using SHELL.

As said before, when I run my program from the IDE or compiled
executable  without using GB_DIR, all runs fine.

If you need some other tests or VNC access I can setup a server right now.


[OperatingSystem]
OperatingSystem=Linux
KernelRelease=2.6.28-15-generic
DistributionVendor=ubuntu
DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 9.04"

[System]
CPUArchitecture=i686
TotalRam=3096988 kB

[Gambas]
Gambas1=Not Installed
Gambas2=2.18.0
Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
Gambas3=2.99.0
Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3

Regards,

Jes?s









From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Sat Dec 19 09:52:53 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:52:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL not working (GB_DIR)
In-Reply-To: <4B2C0FCE.2060500@...2035...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>	<4B294ACE.5010304@...2035...>	<4B2BFBE3.4080101@...2035...>	<200912182324.55399.gambas@...1...>
	<4B2C0FCE.2060500@...2035...>
Message-ID: <4B2C9465.7080607@...1909...>

Jesus Guardon ha scritto:
>>> Hi again
>>>
>>> Continuing my testings on GB_DIR, I'm running into a new problem: SHELL
>>> command has no effect at all. All sentences using SHELL are not
>>> executed. As you can guess, running my project executable the normal way
>>> (not using GB_DIR) it is running right. Could this be a bug?
>>>
>>>       

>> SHELL is just an equivalent of EXEC ["sh", "-c", "XXX"] where "XXX" is the 
>> string passed to the SHELL command.
>>     
>
>   

> Not at all. No error message is displayed, simply SHELL command seems to
> be ignored by the interpreter.
> As for launch my program I'm using a shell script (you can see it in the
> previous posts), I'm not able to run gdb against myprogram.gambas, or
> myprogram (without .sh extension).
>   
In a previous mail you wrote:
> I am calling my executable from a bash script located in /usr/local/bin
> >>>
> >>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
> >>> #!/bin/sh
> >>> export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
> >>> export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
> >>> exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas
> >>>
> >>> (In this case, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used, because they already are in
> >>> my system).
>   

Your "export PATH" command imposes a path which excludes standard unix 
paths - you will never find system utilities like pidof(1), and neither 
the shell itself. You should write:

    export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin:$PATH

to add your personal path the the standard ones. Or, if you are a 
security paranoid, you could use:

    export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin:/usr/bin:/bin

This way you don't trust the existing path. This second form excludes 
/sbin and /usr/sbin; you should add them if you need system 
administration commands like route, fdisk, reboot, addgroup and many others.

Regards,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Sat Dec 19 10:14:38 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:14:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL not working (GB_DIR)
In-Reply-To: <4B2C9465.7080607@...1909...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>	<4B294ACE.5010304@...2035...>	<4B2BFBE3.4080101@...2035...>	<200912182324.55399.gambas@...1...>	<4B2C0FCE.2060500@...2035...>
	<4B2C9465.7080607@...1909...>
Message-ID: <4B2C997E.1050906@...1909...>

Doriano Blengino ha scritto:
> Jesus Guardon ha scritto:
>   
>>>> Hi again
>>>>
>>>> Continuing my testings on GB_DIR, I'm running into a new problem: SHELL
>>>> command has no effect at all. All sentences using SHELL are not
>>>> executed. As you can guess, running my project executable the normal way
>>>> (not using GB_DIR) it is running right. Could this be a bug?
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>
>   
>>> SHELL is just an equivalent of EXEC ["sh", "-c", "XXX"] where "XXX" is the 
>>> string passed to the SHELL command.
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>
>   
>> Not at all. No error message is displayed, simply SHELL command seems to
>> be ignored by the interpreter.
>> As for launch my program I'm using a shell script (you can see it in the
>> previous posts), I'm not able to run gdb against myprogram.gambas, or
>> myprogram (without .sh extension).
>>   
>>     
> In a previous mail you wrote:
>   
>> I am calling my executable from a bash script located in /usr/local/bin
>>     
>>>>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
>>>>> #!/bin/sh
>>>>> export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
>>>>> export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
>>>>> exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas
>>>>>
>>>>> (In this case, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used, because they already are in
>>>>> my system).
>>>>>           
>>   
>>     
>
> Your "export PATH" command imposes a path which excludes standard unix 
> paths - you will never find system utilities like pidof(1), and neither 
> the shell itself. You should write:
>
>     export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin:$PATH
>
> to add your personal path the the standard ones. Or, if you are a 
> security paranoid, you could use:
>
>     export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
>
> This way you don't trust the existing path. This second form excludes 
> /sbin and /usr/sbin; you should add them if you need system 
> administration commands like route, fdisk, reboot, addgroup and many others.
>
> Regards,
>
>   
Just after hitting the send button, I realized that this idea is correct 
only in part. May be it solves, it is a quick try.
The right part is that the PATH variable is used by the shell itself, so 
even if your gambas program finds the shell and asks it to execute 
something, the shell will fail to do it. Probably this is not considered 
an error by gambas, so the instruction SHELL "pidof xxx" fails silently.

The ambigous part is in whether gambas uses PATH to search for the 
shell. If it is so, then your gambas program will not find the shell, 
and gambas should report this, because "an internal instruction of 
gambas is failing". In this case, however, one can ask himself if makes 
it sense to use PATH to search for the shell, which traditionally is 
/bin/sh, and many scripts included system ones address the shell in this 
way. Assuming that SHELL is a substitute for EXEC ["sh", "-c", "...."], 
and that EXEC searches executables in PATH, this would explain all. 
Perhaps would be better to bind SHELL to EXEC ["/bin/sh", "-c", "..."].

I am not sure if, natively, exec() searches executables in PATH. May be 
that there is the system call exec() which does one thing, and the C 
library wrapped exec() which does differently. In any case, if it is so, 
this would explain my sensation that SHELLs in gambas are slow. In my 
system (a normal Debian), the PATH variable looks like 
"/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11". 
Every time a gambas program invokes a SHELL, the system searches sh in 4 
directories, and then sh searches for the executable in 4 directories 
again; the first four directories could be skipped.

Regards,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From jguardon at ...2035...  Sat Dec 19 12:12:27 2009
From: jguardon at ...2035... (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:12:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL not working (GB_DIR)[solved]
In-Reply-To: <4B2C9465.7080607@...1909...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>	<4B294ACE.5010304@...2035...>	<4B2BFBE3.4080101@...2035...>	<200912182324.55399.gambas@...1...>	<4B2C0FCE.2060500@...2035...>
	<4B2C9465.7080607@...1909...>
Message-ID: <4B2CB51B.8040107@...2035...>

Doriano Blengino escribi?:
> Jesus Guardon ha scritto:
>>>> Hi again
>>>>
>>>> Continuing my testings on GB_DIR, I'm running into a new problem: SHELL
>>>> command has no effect at all. All sentences using SHELL are not
>>>> executed. As you can guess, running my project executable the normal way
>>>> (not using GB_DIR) it is running right. Could this be a bug?
> 
>> Not at all. No error message is displayed, simply SHELL command seems to
>> be ignored by the interpreter.
>> As for launch my program I'm using a shell script (you can see it in the
>> previous posts), I'm not able to run gdb against myprogram.gambas, or
>> myprogram (without .sh extension).
>>   
> In a previous mail you wrote:
>> I am calling my executable from a bash script located in /usr/local/bin
>>>>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
>>>>> #!/bin/sh
>>>>> export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
>>>>> export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
>>>>> exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas
>>>>>
>>>>> (In this case, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used, because they already are in
>>>>> my system).
>>   
> 
> Your "export PATH" command imposes a path which excludes standard unix 
> paths - you will never find system utilities like pidof(1), and neither 
> the shell itself. You should write:
> 
>     export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin:$PATH
> 
> to add your personal path the the standard ones. Or, if you are a 
> security paranoid, you could use:
> 
>     export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
> 
> This way you don't trust the existing path. This second form excludes 
> /sbin and /usr/sbin; you should add them if you need system 
> administration commands like route, fdisk, reboot, addgroup and many others.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Yessss! This solved the issue. I might figured it out, I didn't know of
exclusion on "exports".

Many thanks, Doriano (and Beno?t, for such a great feature!)

Regards,

Jes?s





From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Sat Dec 19 15:05:16 2009
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:05:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form in
	/usr/local/lib/gambas2]
In-Reply-To: <1261147552.3637.9.camel@...651...>
References: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>
	<200912181153.09038.gambas@...1...> 
	<1261144489.3637.7.camel@...651...>
	<200912181533.07747.gambas@...1...> 
	<1261147552.3637.9.camel@...651...>
Message-ID: <384d3900912190605s67f2fddbo79dcab5c253c2b65@...627...>

I can't quite understand your question...
Gambas has ability to make installation packages (Project --> Make -->
Installation package...).
"./configure -C" and "make" doesn't need sudo, only "make install" needs it.

Jussi


On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 16:45, craf <prog at ...2177...> wrote:
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
> in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
> Fecha: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:33:07 +0100
>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
>> in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
>> Fecha: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:53:09 +0100
>>
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > When I create a new project with database support. The hidden file .
>> > project ?show me the ?components that are needed to run the
>> > application.
>> >
>> > Example.
>> >
>> > # Gambas Project File 2.0
>> > Title=myproject
>> > Startup=FMain
>> > Library=gb.db
>> > Library=gb.gtk
>> > Library=gb.gtk.ext
>> > Library=gb.form =>NOT FOUND
>> > Library=gb.db.form
>> >
>> > All the components I could find in the folder / usr/local/lib/gambas2 /
>> > but that is not the only component is the gb.form.
>> > How can I locate it, or refers to another component in particular?.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> >
>> > Your installation of Gambas is apparently broken. How did you install it?
>>
>> Hi Benoit, thanks for responding.
>>
>> I tell you, I'm trying to do an install script of my programs in order
>> to distribute other equipment. I need to copy all the shared libraries
>> needed by components Gambas.
>>
>> To do this read the file (. Project) and then run ldd <component>
>> instruction. The script finds all least gb.form component.
>>
>> I have no problems running Gambas and run my programs, just do not find
>> the component gb.form in the folder /usr/local/lib/gambas2.
>>
>
>>gb.form is a component written in gambas, so you have only the gb.form.gambas
>>and gb.form.component files in the lib/gambas2 directory.
>>
>>Regards,
>
> Hello.
>
> So I need the component gb.form?.
>
> If so, why I run my applications, if required this component, because
> when you create a basic gtk application, me included?.
>
> What would that do to include it in my collection?, Or is it normal that
> I receive?.
>
> Regards.
>
>
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From ulusoyab at ...43...  Sat Dec 19 19:25:23 2009
From: ulusoyab at ...43... (abdurrahman ulusoy)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:25:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
Message-ID: <8873.33721.qm@...2242...>

hi ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?in gambas2 form has no error but i ported gambas3 then?"form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'



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From prog at ...2177...  Sat Dec 19 19:52:26 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:52:26 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form in
 /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
In-Reply-To: <384d3900912190605s67f2fddbo79dcab5c253c2b65@...627...>
References: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>
	<200912181153.09038.gambas@...1...>
	<1261144489.3637.7.camel@...651...>
	<200912181533.07747.gambas@...1...>
	<1261147552.3637.9.camel@...651...>
	<384d3900912190605s67f2fddbo79dcab5c253c2b65@...627...>
Message-ID: <1261248746.3609.2.camel@...651...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
Fecha: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:05:16 +0200

>I can't quite understand your question...
>Gambas has ability to make installation packages (Project --> Make -->
>Installation package...).
>"./configure -C" and "make" doesn't need sudo, only "make install" needs it.
>
>Jussi

Hello.

I have no problem with the installation of Gambas.

What I am trying to do is a script to install my application on another
computer without having all the libraries compartidas.Now, to know what
components are needed, just look at the file (. project), which shows
you the necessary libraries .
Example
Library = gb.db
Library = gb.gtk
etc.

The problem is that Gambas brings extra controls that are installed with
the library gb.form, which comes not listed in the hidden file
(.project), it leaves the library gb.draw which is also required. Only I
mean that in the file (. project) would appear all the libraries that
are marked in the section components within the Gambas IDE.

As I explained Benoit, is that the library is a component gb.form done
with Gambas and therefore does not appear listed in the file (.project).

Unfortunately English is not my native language, and can misinterpret
what I need.

Regards.



On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 16:45, craf <prog at ...2177...> wrote:
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
> in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
> Fecha: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:33:07 +0100
>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
>> in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
>> Fecha: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:53:09 +0100
>>
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > When I create a new project with database support. The hidden file .
>> > project  show me the  components that are needed to run the
>> > application.
>> >
>> > Example.
>> >
>> > # Gambas Project File 2.0
>> > Title=myproject
>> > Startup=FMain
>> > Library=gb.db
>> > Library=gb.gtk
>> > Library=gb.gtk.ext
>> > Library=gb.form =>NOT FOUND
>> > Library=gb.db.form
>> >
>> > All the components I could find in the folder / usr/local/lib/gambas2 /
>> > but that is not the only component is the gb.form.
>> > How can I locate it, or refers to another component in particular?.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> >
>> > Your installation of Gambas is apparently broken. How did you install it?
>>
>> Hi Benoit, thanks for responding.
>>
>> I tell you, I'm trying to do an install script of my programs in order
>> to distribute other equipment. I need to copy all the shared libraries
>> needed by components Gambas.
>>
>> To do this read the file (. Project) and then run ldd <component>
>> instruction. The script finds all least gb.form component.
>>
>> I have no problems running Gambas and run my programs, just do not find
>> the component gb.form in the folder /usr/local/lib/gambas2.
>>
>
>>gb.form is a component written in gambas, so you have only the gb.form.gambas
>>and gb.form.component files in the lib/gambas2 directory.
>>
>>Regards,
>
> Hello.
>
> So I need the component gb.form?.
>
> If so, why I run my applications, if required this component, because
> when you create a basic gtk application, me included?.
>
> What would that do to include it in my collection?, Or is it normal that
> I receive?.
>
> Regards.
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec 19 22:39:12 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:39:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
In-Reply-To: <8873.33721.qm@...2242...>
References: <8873.33721.qm@...2242...>
Message-ID: <200912192239.12672.gambas@...1...>

> hi                    in gambas2 form has no error but i ported gambas3
>  then "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
> 

"H" is a property of the Form class. Form3 inherits the Form class, and so, if 
it reimplements the "H" symbol, it must be a property too, with the same 
datatype.

Gambas2 says nothing because it is a bug that could be fixed in Gambas3 only.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec 19 22:44:23 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:44:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form in
	/usr/local/lib/gambas2]
In-Reply-To: <1261248746.3609.2.camel@...651...>
References: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>
	<384d3900912190605s67f2fddbo79dcab5c253c2b65@...627...>
	<1261248746.3609.2.camel@...651...>
Message-ID: <200912192244.23439.gambas@...1...>

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
> in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
> Fecha: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:05:16 +0200
> 
> >I can't quite understand your question...
> >Gambas has ability to make installation packages (Project --> Make -->
> >Installation package...).
> >"./configure -C" and "make" doesn't need sudo, only "make install" needs
> > it.
> >
> >Jussi
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I have no problem with the installation of Gambas.
> 
> What I am trying to do is a script to install my application on another
> computer without having all the libraries compartidas.Now, to know what
> components are needed, just look at the file (. project), which shows
> you the necessary libraries .
> Example
> Library = gb.db
> Library = gb.gtk
> etc.
> 
> The problem is that Gambas brings extra controls that are installed with
> the library gb.form, which comes not listed in the hidden file
> (.project), it leaves the library gb.draw which is also required. Only I
> mean that in the file (. project) would appear all the libraries that
> are marked in the section components within the Gambas IDE.
> 
> As I explained Benoit, is that the library is a component gb.form done
> with Gambas and therefore does not appear listed in the file (.project).
> 
> Unfortunately English is not my native language, and can misinterpret
> what I need.
> 
> Regards.
> 

Yes, there are "hidden" dependencies: gb.draw, that is needed by all GUI 
components, any gb.db.* driver that could be loaded by the gb.db component.

But you should get an error message while running your program if a Gambas 
component written in C/C++ is missing.

Beside the hidden dependencies, you just have to list all "Library=" lines in 
the .project file, and copy in the /lib/gambas2 directory all files beginning 
with the component name.

For example: you have gb.form in the .project file? Do a "cp gb.form.* 
<destination>".

If you want all the details, read the "how to package gambas" page on the 
wiki.

Regards,
-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ulusoyab at ...43...  Sat Dec 19 23:18:12 2009
From: ulusoyab at ...43... (abdurrahman ulusoy)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:18:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
In-Reply-To: <200912192239.12672.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <866061.23942.qm@...2243...>

thanks.
and how can draw arc without line start point (or end point) to center.

--- 19/12/09 Cts tarihinde Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> ??yle yaz?yor:

Kimden: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Konu: Re: [Gambas-user] "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
Kime: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Tarihi: 19 Aral?k 2009 Cumartesi, 23:39

> hi? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? in gambas2 form has no error but i ported gambas3
>? then "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
> 

"H" is a property of the Form class. Form3 inherits the Form class, and so, if 
it reimplements the "H" symbol, it must be a property too, with the same 
datatype.

Gambas2 says nothing because it is a bug that could be fixed in Gambas3 only.

Regards,

-- 
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From prog at ...2177...  Sat Dec 19 23:17:40 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:17:40 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form in
 /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
In-Reply-To: <200912192244.23439.gambas@...1...>
References: <1261076485.3629.7.camel@...651...>
	<384d3900912190605s67f2fddbo79dcab5c253c2b65@...627...>
	<1261248746.3609.2.camel@...651...>
	<200912192244.23439.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1261261060.3626.1.camel@...651...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
Fecha: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:44:23 +0100

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] [Fwd: Not Found component gb.form
> in /usr/local/lib/gambas2]
> Fecha: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:05:16 +0200
> 
> >I can't quite understand your question...
> >Gambas has ability to make installation packages (Project --> Make -->
> >Installation package...).
> >"./configure -C" and "make" doesn't need sudo, only "make install" needs
> > it.
> >
> >Jussi
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I have no problem with the installation of Gambas.
> 
> What I am trying to do is a script to install my application on another
> computer without having all the libraries compartidas.Now, to know what
> components are needed, just look at the file (. project), which shows
> you the necessary libraries .
> Example
> Library = gb.db
> Library = gb.gtk
> etc.
> 
> The problem is that Gambas brings extra controls that are installed with
> the library gb.form, which comes not listed in the hidden file
> (.project), it leaves the library gb.draw which is also required. Only I
> mean that in the file (. project) would appear all the libraries that
> are marked in the section components within the Gambas IDE.
> 
> As I explained Benoit, is that the library is a component gb.form done
> with Gambas and therefore does not appear listed in the file (.project).
> 
> Unfortunately English is not my native language, and can misinterpret
> what I need.
> 
> Regards.
> 

>Yes, there are "hidden" dependencies: gb.draw, that is needed by all GUI 
>components, any gb.db.* driver that could be loaded by the gb.db component.
>
>But you should get an error message while running your program if a Gambas 
>component written in C/C++ is missing.
>
>Beside the hidden dependencies, you just have to list all "Library=" lines in 
>the .project file, and copy in the /lib/gambas2 directory all files beginning 
>with the component name.
>
>For example: you have gb.form in the .project file? Do a "cp gb.form.* 
><destination>".
>
>If you want all the details, read the "how to package gambas" page on the 
>wiki.
>
>Regards,

Thanks Benoit. 

Now I have clearer ideas.

Regards




From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec 19 23:21:26 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:21:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
In-Reply-To: <866061.23942.qm@...2243...>
References: <866061.23942.qm@...2243...>
Message-ID: <200912192321.26598.gambas@...1...>

> thanks.
> and how can draw arc without line start point (or end point) to center.
> 

Sorry, I need a better english to understand the question...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ulusoyab at ...43...  Sat Dec 19 23:43:47 2009
From: ulusoyab at ...43... (abdurrahman ulusoy)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:43:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
Message-ID: <904720.84998.qm@...2247...>

i am sorry. i added my question.

--- 20/12/09 Pzr tarihinde Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> ??yle yaz?yor:

Kimden: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Konu: Re: [Gambas-user] "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
Kime: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Tarihi: 20 Aral?k 2009 Pazar, 0:21

> thanks.
> and how can draw arc without line start point (or end point) to center.
> 

Sorry, I need a better english to understand the question...

-- 
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From prog at ...2177...  Sun Dec 20 15:13:55 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 11:13:55 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Install Gambas 3
Message-ID: <1261318435.3614.1.camel@...651...>

Hello. 

I installed the version 2.18.0  Gambas, through compilation. Now, I try
Gambas3, but will remain installed in another location. 

To install Gambas on my computer I always do: 

sudo. / configure-C 
sudo make 
sudo make install. 

I read the installation page that you use - prefix, but no where to
include it.

Regards


From jguardon at ...2035...  Sun Dec 20 18:57:32 2009
From: jguardon at ...2035... (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:57:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Install Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1261318435.3614.1.camel@...651...>
References: <1261318435.3614.1.camel@...651...>
Message-ID: <4B2E658C.4030606@...2035...>

craf escribi?:
> Hello. 
> 
> I installed the version 2.18.0  Gambas, through compilation. Now, I try
> Gambas3, but will remain installed in another location. 
> 
> To install Gambas on my computer I always do: 
> 
> sudo. / configure-C 
> sudo make 
> sudo make install. 
> 
> I read the installation page that you use - prefix, but no where to
> include it.
> 
> Regards

Gambas2 and Gambas3 are independent, they both can coexist without problems.

To install gambas you might not use sudo, but only for 'make install'
command:

./configure -C
make
sudo make install

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Jesus



From prog at ...2177...  Mon Dec 21 02:02:39 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:02:39 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Install Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <4B2E658C.4030606@...2035...>
References: <1261318435.3614.1.camel@...651...>  <4B2E658C.4030606@...2035...>
Message-ID: <1261357359.3631.0.camel@...651...>

Ok. Thanks for your answer.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jesus Guardon <jguardon at ...2035...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Install Gambas 3
Fecha: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:57:32 +0100


craf escribi?:
> Hello. 
> 
> I installed the version 2.18.0  Gambas, through compilation. Now, I try
> Gambas3, but will remain installed in another location. 
> 
> To install Gambas on my computer I always do: 
> 
> sudo. / configure-C 
> sudo make 
> sudo make install. 
> 
> I read the installation page that you use - prefix, but no where to
> include it.
> 
> Regards

Gambas2 and Gambas3 are independent, they both can coexist without problems.

To install gambas you might not use sudo, but only for 'make install'
command:

./configure -C
make
sudo make install

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Jesus

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From prog at ...2177...  Mon Dec 21 21:14:42 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:14:42 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dinamic Libraries unused with ldd
Message-ID: <1261426482.3630.6.camel@...651...>

Hello 

I'm seeing the dynamic libs that depends gbx2 file. 

For that I use: 

$ ldd / usr/local/bin/gbx2. 

The result gives me is: 

linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xb8033000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7ff3000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7fef000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7fd5000)
libffi.so.5 => /usr/lib/libffi.so.5 (0xb7fcd000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7e6a000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb8034000)

Now with the -u option, the result is, the result is: 

/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0

The -u option (unused) shows me what dependencies are not being used. 

Question: 

Can I ignore these dependencies, since they are not being taken into
account?

Regards.


From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Mon Dec 21 23:37:03 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:37:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] ambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
Message-ID: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>

Salut,

gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie

[OperatingSystem]
OperatingSystem=Linux
KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
DistributionVendor=ubuntu
DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"

[System]
CPUArchitecture=i686
TotalRam=506932 kB


[System]
CPUArchitecture=i686
TotalRam=506932 kB

[Gambas]
Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3




From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Tue Dec 22 20:39:37 2009
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:39:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] ambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <384d3900912221139x29956733h389d04a1dc769e0f@...627...>

Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?

Jussi


On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...> wrote:
> Salut,
>
> gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
>
>
> --
> Amicalement
> Charlie
>
> [OperatingSystem]
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
>
> [System]
> CPUArchitecture=i686
> TotalRam=506932 kB
>
>
> [System]
> CPUArchitecture=i686
> TotalRam=506932 kB
>
> [Gambas]
> Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> Gambas2=2.18.0 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?rev.2498
> Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> Gambas3=2.99.0 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?rev.2449
> Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Dec 22 20:45:11 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:45:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Beware with gambas 2 from subversion
Message-ID: <200912222045.11569.gambas@...1...>

Gambas 2 revision >= #2499 is not compilable at the moment. I'm currently 
working on fixes for the ARM architecture.

Sorry for the inconvenience!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Tue Dec 22 21:01:00 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:01:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] ambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <384d3900912221139x29956733h389d04a1dc769e0f@...627...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<384d3900912221139x29956733h389d04a1dc769e0f@...627...>
Message-ID: <1261512060.6364.5.camel@...40...>

Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...> wrote:
> > Salut,
> >
> > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> >
> >
> > --
> > Amicalement
> > Charlie
> >
> > [OperatingSystem]
> > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> >
> > [System]
> > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > TotalRam=506932 kB
> >
> >
> > [System]
> > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > TotalRam=506932 kB
> >
> > [Gambas]
> > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> >
Oh.........

pardon,I'v lost the attachment.

here it is.
 
-- 
Amicalement
Charlie
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From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Tue Dec 22 21:18:47 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:18:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <384d3900912221139x29956733h389d04a1dc769e0f@...627...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<384d3900912221139x29956733h389d04a1dc769e0f@...627...>
Message-ID: <1261513127.6364.15.camel@...40...>

Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...> wrote:
> > Salut,
> >
> > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> >
> >
> > --
> > Amicalement
> > Charlie
> >
> > [OperatingSystem]
> > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> >
> > [System]
> > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > TotalRam=506932 kB
> >
> >
> > [System]
> > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > TotalRam=506932 kB
> >
> > [Gambas]
> > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> >

I even had to change the subject.

Oh...double oh...
is that the copenhagen effect ?

the problem was/is on gambas3 

[Gambas]
Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3

sorry, sorry and one more time sorry

and one more time the attachments

Charlie
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From rterry at ...1946...  Tue Dec 22 21:37:26 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:37:26 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Beware with gambas 2 from subversion
In-Reply-To: <200912222045.11569.gambas@...1...>
References: <200912222045.11569.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912230737.26906.rterry@...1946...>

On Wednesday 23 December 2009 06:45:11 Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Gambas 2 revision >= #2499 is not compilable at the moment. I'm currently
> working on fixes for the ARM architecture.
> 
> Sorry for the inconvenience!
> 
This compiled ok on my ARCH linux box, does that mean its safe to use or will 
it explode my machine.

Regards

Richard



From lordheavym at ...626...  Tue Dec 22 21:43:47 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:43:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <1261513127.6364.15.camel@...40...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<384d3900912221139x29956733h389d04a1dc769e0f@...627...>
	<1261513127.6364.15.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <200912222143.47091.lordheavym@...626...>

Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:18:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> > Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...> 
wrote:
> > > Salut,
> > >
> > > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Amicalement
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > > [OperatingSystem]
> > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> > >
> > > [System]
> > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > >
> > >
> > > [System]
> > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > >
> > > [Gambas]
> > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> 
> I even had to change the subject.
> 
> Oh...double oh...
> is that the copenhagen effect ?
> 
> the problem was/is on gambas3
> 
> [Gambas]
> Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
> Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
> Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> 
> sorry, sorry and one more time sorry
> 
> and one more time the attachments
> 
> Charlie
> 

What is output of libtoolize --version ?

++



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Tue Dec 22 21:53:58 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:53:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <200912222143.47091.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<384d3900912221139x29956733h389d04a1dc769e0f@...627...>
	<1261513127.6364.15.camel@...40...>
	<200912222143.47091.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <1261515238.6364.18.camel@...40...>

Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:43 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:18:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> > > Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> > >
> > > Jussi
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...> 
> wrote:
> > > > Salut,
> > > >
> > > > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Amicalement
> > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > > [OperatingSystem]
> > > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > > > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > > > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> > > >
> > > > [System]
> > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [System]
> > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > >
> > > > [Gambas]
> > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > 
> > I even had to change the subject.
> > 
> > Oh...double oh...
> > is that the copenhagen effect ?
> > 
> > the problem was/is on gambas3
> > 
> > [Gambas]
> > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
> > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
> > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > 
> > sorry, sorry and one more time sorry
> > 
> > and one more time the attachments
> > 
> > Charlie
> > 
> 
> What is output of libtoolize --version ?
> 
> ++


@Scenic:~$ libtoolize --version
libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.26





From lordheavym at ...626...  Tue Dec 22 22:03:03 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:03:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <1261515238.6364.18.camel@...40...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<200912222143.47091.lordheavym@...626...>
	<1261515238.6364.18.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <200912222203.03728.lordheavym@...626...>

Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:53:58, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:43 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:18:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> > > > Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> > > >
> > > > Jussi
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > Salut,
> > > > >
> > > > > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Amicalement
> > > > > Charlie
> > > > >
> > > > > [OperatingSystem]
> > > > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > > > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > > > > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > > > > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> > > > >
> > > > > [System]
> > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [System]
> > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > >
> > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > >
> > > I even had to change the subject.
> > >
> > > Oh...double oh...
> > > is that the copenhagen effect ?
> > >
> > > the problem was/is on gambas3
> > >
> > > [Gambas]
> > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
> > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
> > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > >
> > > sorry, sorry and one more time sorry
> > >
> > > and one more time the attachments
> > >
> > > Charlie
> >
> > What is output of libtoolize --version ?
> >
> > ++
> 
> @Scenic:~$ libtoolize --version
> libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.26
> 
> 
> 
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Ouch, really old version !
Don't know if there is a correct workaround for the new way reconf is done...



From franklinsolutions at ...2340...  Wed Dec 23 16:58:37 2009
From: franklinsolutions at ...2340... (fsl)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:58:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  Database Sample Application
Message-ID: <26903878.post@...1379...>


Has anyone successfully used this sample in Gambas to retrieve data from a
MSSQL database in Fedora 12 or any other distro.  I can get the connection
to open using odbc as the type and a dsn configured in odbc.ini &
odbcinst.ini using freetds as the driver however the application falls over
when the query runs. A wireshark trace shows that the query results are
returned from the server.

running tslq from a terminal  in the form tsql -S server -U username -P
password -D database connects and the results from any query run are
displayed.  Similarly running isql in the form isql -v DSNname username
password also connects and the results from any query are displayed.
-- 
View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Database-Sample-Application-tp26903878p26903878.html
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From mohareve at ...626...  Wed Dec 23 21:33:21 2009
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:33:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Shell sudo
Message-ID: <cf2b66e0912231233v79efa0d4r445c2f1c32ef2d5c@...627...>

I'd like to make my app able to download and install packages via apt-get
(or any other command-line package manager). How can I do that? I know it
will need the user's password but how can I pass the command?
The simple SHELL "sudo apt-get install ..." won't do the thing!
Thanks!


From lordheavym at ...626...  Wed Dec 23 21:36:44 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:36:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <1261515238.6364.18.camel@...40...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<200912222143.47091.lordheavym@...626...>
	<1261515238.6364.18.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <200912232136.44222.lordheavym@...626...>

Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:53:58, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:43 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:18:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> > > > Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> > > >
> > > > Jussi
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > Salut,
> > > > >
> > > > > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Amicalement
> > > > > Charlie
> > > > >
> > > > > [OperatingSystem]
> > > > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > > > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > > > > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > > > > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> > > > >
> > > > > [System]
> > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [System]
> > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > >
> > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > >
> > > I even had to change the subject.
> > >
> > > Oh...double oh...
> > > is that the copenhagen effect ?
> > >
> > > the problem was/is on gambas3
> > >
> > > [Gambas]
> > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
> > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
> > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > >
> > > sorry, sorry and one more time sorry
> > >
> > > and one more time the attachments
> > >
> > > Charlie
> >
> > What is output of libtoolize --version ?
> >
> > ++
> 
> @Scenic:~$ libtoolize --version
> libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.26
> 
> 
Try to change the following line in reconf file:
libtoolize --force --copy --install -> libtoolize --force --copy

libtoolize 1.5.26 doesn't support --install parameter.




From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 23 21:42:30 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:42:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <200912232136.44222.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<1261515238.6364.18.camel@...40...>
	<200912232136.44222.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912232142.30654.gambas@...1...>

> Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:53:58, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:43 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> > > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:18:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> > > > > Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jussi
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl
> > > > > <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Salut,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Amicalement
> > > > > > Charlie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [OperatingSystem]
> > > > > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > > > > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > > > > > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > > > > > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > >
> > > > I even had to change the subject.
> > > >
> > > > Oh...double oh...
> > > > is that the copenhagen effect ?
> > > >
> > > > the problem was/is on gambas3
> > > >
> > > > [Gambas]
> > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
> > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
> > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > >
> > > > sorry, sorry and one more time sorry
> > > >
> > > > and one more time the attachments
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > >
> > > What is output of libtoolize --version ?
> > >
> > > ++
> >
> > @Scenic:~$ libtoolize --version
> > libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.26
> 
> Try to change the following line in reconf file:
> libtoolize --force --copy --install -> libtoolize --force --copy
> 
> libtoolize 1.5.26 doesn't support --install parameter.
> 

Is it possible to add a test on the libtool version in the reconf shell 
script?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lordheavym at ...626...  Wed Dec 23 21:58:03 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:58:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <200912232142.30654.gambas@...1...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<200912232136.44222.lordheavym@...626...>
	<200912232142.30654.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912232158.03093.lordheavym@...626...>

Le mercredi 23 d?cembre 2009 21:42:30, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:53:58, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:43 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> > > > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:18:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> > > > > > Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jussi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl
> > > > > > <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Salut,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Amicalement
> > > > > > > Charlie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [OperatingSystem]
> > > > > > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > > > > > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > > > > > > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > > > > > > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > > >
> > > > > I even had to change the subject.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh...double oh...
> > > > > is that the copenhagen effect ?
> > > > >
> > > > > the problem was/is on gambas3
> > > > >
> > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > > >
> > > > > sorry, sorry and one more time sorry
> > > > >
> > > > > and one more time the attachments
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > > What is output of libtoolize --version ?
> > > >
> > > > ++
> > >
> > > @Scenic:~$ libtoolize --version
> > > libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.26
> >
> > Try to change the following line in reconf file:
> > libtoolize --force --copy --install -> libtoolize --force --copy
> >
> > libtoolize 1.5.26 doesn't support --install parameter.
> 
> Is it possible to add a test on the libtool version in the reconf shell
> script?
> 

I guess it should be possible, but first we need to know if it's working 
without --install parameter :-)



From joshiggins at ...1601...  Wed Dec 23 22:00:46 2009
From: joshiggins at ...1601... (Joshua Higgins)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:00:46 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Shell sudo
In-Reply-To: <cf2b66e0912231233v79efa0d4r445c2f1c32ef2d5c@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912231233v79efa0d4r445c2f1c32ef2d5c@...627...>
Message-ID: <4247f5440912231300v62e7c37an7c77c2fe612b68a@...627...>

I've been writing the command I want to execute as root ("apt-get
install package") to a temporary file (e.g. /tmp/install.package),
making it executable (chmod +x) then using

SHELL "gksu sh /tmp/install.package"

which prompts the user for the password. Its probably not the best
way, but its quite nice because you can set the message gksu displays
and it integrates nicely with gnome. Of course you can replace gksu
with kdesu.

Hope this helps.

2009/12/23 M. Cs. <mohareve at ...626...>:
> I'd like to make my app able to download and install packages via apt-get
> (or any other command-line package manager). How can I do that? I know it
> will need the user's password but how can I pass the command?
> The simple SHELL "sudo apt-get install ..." won't do the thing!
> Thanks!
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From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Wed Dec 23 22:18:53 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:18:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <200912232136.44222.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<200912222143.47091.lordheavym@...626...>
	<1261515238.6364.18.camel@...40...>
	<200912232136.44222.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <1261603133.6359.5.camel@...40...>

Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 21:36 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:53:58, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:43 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> > > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:18:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> > > > > Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jussi
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Salut,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Amicalement
> > > > > > Charlie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [OperatingSystem]
> > > > > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > > > > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > > > > > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > > > > > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > >
> > > > I even had to change the subject.
> > > >
> > > > Oh...double oh...
> > > > is that the copenhagen effect ?
> > > >
> > > > the problem was/is on gambas3
> > > >
> > > > [Gambas]
> > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
> > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
> > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > >
> > > > sorry, sorry and one more time sorry
> > > >
> > > > and one more time the attachments
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > >
> > > What is output of libtoolize --version ?
> > >
> > > ++
> > 
> > @Scenic:~$ libtoolize --version
> > libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.26
> > 
> > 
> Try to change the following line in reconf file:
> libtoolize --force --copy --install -> libtoolize --force --copy
> 
> libtoolize 1.5.26 doesn't support --install parameter.
> 
Salut Laurent, Beno?t,

thanks, but no success, see my attachments.  
-- 
Cordialement
Charlie
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From lordheavym at ...626...  Wed Dec 23 22:33:12 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:33:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <1261603133.6359.5.camel@...40...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<200912232136.44222.lordheavym@...626...>
	<1261603133.6359.5.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <200912232233.12978.lordheavym@...626...>

Le mercredi 23 d?cembre 2009 22:18:53, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 21:36 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:53:58, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:43 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> > > > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:18:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> > > > > > Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jussi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl
> > > > > > <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Salut,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Amicalement
> > > > > > > Charlie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [OperatingSystem]
> > > > > > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > > > > > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > > > > > > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > > > > > > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > > >
> > > > > I even had to change the subject.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh...double oh...
> > > > > is that the copenhagen effect ?
> > > > >
> > > > > the problem was/is on gambas3
> > > > >
> > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > > >
> > > > > sorry, sorry and one more time sorry
> > > > >
> > > > > and one more time the attachments
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > > What is output of libtoolize --version ?
> > > >
> > > > ++
> > >
> > > @Scenic:~$ libtoolize --version
> > > libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.26
> >
> > Try to change the following line in reconf file:
> > libtoolize --force --copy --install -> libtoolize --force --copy
> >
> > libtoolize 1.5.26 doesn't support --install parameter.
> 
> Salut Laurent, Beno?t,
> 
> thanks, but no success, see my attachments.
> 

And adding --install to autoreconf line:
autoreconf -v $@ -> autoreconf -v --install $@

?



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Wed Dec 23 23:36:28 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:36:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas3 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all
In-Reply-To: <200912232233.12978.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <1261435023.24875.4.camel@...40...>
	<200912232136.44222.lordheavym@...626...>
	<1261603133.6359.5.camel@...40...>
	<200912232233.12978.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <1261607788.6359.8.camel@...40...>

Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 22:33 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> Le mercredi 23 d?cembre 2009 22:18:53, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 21:36 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> > > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:53:58, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:43 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> > > > > Le mardi 22 d?cembre 2009 21:18:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 21:39 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> > > > > > > Please more info about fail. Error messages? Failing command?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jussi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 00:37, Charlie Reinl
> > > > > > > <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Salut,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > gambas2 Revision 2498 fails on reconf-all, on my box
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Amicalement
> > > > > > > > Charlie
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [OperatingSystem]
> > > > > > > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > > > > > > KernelRelease=2.6.24-26-generic
> > > > > > > > DistributionVendor=ubuntu
> > > > > > > > DistributionRelease="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [System]
> > > > > > > > CPUArchitecture=i686
> > > > > > > > TotalRam=506932 kB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I even had to change the subject.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh...double oh...
> > > > > > is that the copenhagen effect ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the problem was/is on gambas3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Gambas]
> > > > > > Gambas1=gbx-1.0.17
> > > > > > Gambas1Path=/usr/bin/gbx
> > > > > > Gambas2=2.18.0                  rev.2449
> > > > > > Gambas2Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx2
> > > > > > Gambas3=2.99.0                  rev.2498
> > > > > > Gambas3Path=/usr/local/bin/gbx3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sorry, sorry and one more time sorry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and one more time the attachments
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Charlie
> > > > >
> > > > > What is output of libtoolize --version ?
> > > > >
> > > > > ++
> > > >
> > > > @Scenic:~$ libtoolize --version
> > > > libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.26
> > >
> > > Try to change the following line in reconf file:
> > > libtoolize --force --copy --install -> libtoolize --force --copy
> > >
> > > libtoolize 1.5.26 doesn't support --install parameter.
> > 
> > Salut Laurent, Beno?t,
> > 
> > thanks, but no success, see my attachments.
> > 
> 
> And adding --install to autoreconf line:
> autoreconf -v $@ -> autoreconf -v --install $@
> 
> ?

get a bit further, but failed in make.

attached the logs


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie
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From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Thu Dec 24 16:27:14 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:27:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision: 2514
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gambas3 Revision: 2514
 does not compile for me , fails at reconf

Charlie
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From lordheavym at ...626...  Thu Dec 24 16:55:27 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:55:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision: 2514
In-Reply-To: <1261668434.6421.9.camel@...40...>
References: <1261668434.6421.9.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <200912241655.27623.lordheavym@...626...>

Le jeudi 24 d?cembre 2009 16:27:14, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> gambas3 Revision: 2514
>  does not compile for me , fails at reconf
> 
> Charlie
> 

I guess it's because the m4/ltversion.m4 is missing.... There is really a big 
differences between libtool 1.5.x and 2.x ! Does the file is present ?

With libtool 2.x (and install option)  ltversion.m4 is automaticaly installed, 
files  config.guess, ltmain.sh,  config.sub, install-sh are not needed (i've 
remove them and it's building fine (they are created during make install).
Users (benoit and others) should try to remove them and see if they are 
correctly created (and it's installing fine)

Here it's libtool version 2.2.6b (libtool --version);

We can keep compatibility with with 1.5.x libtool, but we will have lot of 
headache with libtool 2.x,

++



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 24 17:30:24 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:30:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision: 2514
In-Reply-To: <200912241655.27623.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <1261668434.6421.9.camel@...40...>
	<200912241655.27623.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912241730.24303.gambas@...1...>

> Le jeudi 24 d?cembre 2009 16:27:14, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > gambas3 Revision: 2514
> >  does not compile for me , fails at reconf
> >
> > Charlie
> 
> I guess it's because the m4/ltversion.m4 is missing.... There is really a
>  big differences between libtool 1.5.x and 2.x ! Does the file is present ?
> 
> With libtool 2.x (and install option)  ltversion.m4 is automaticaly
>  installed, files  config.guess, ltmain.sh,  config.sub, install-sh are not
>  needed (i've remove them and it's building fine (they are created during
>  make install). Users (benoit and others) should try to remove them and see
>  if they are correctly created (and it's installing fine)
> 
> Here it's libtool version 2.2.6b (libtool --version);
> 
> We can keep compatibility with with 1.5.x libtool, but we will have lot of
> headache with libtool 2.x,
> 
> ++
> 

config.guess, ltmain.sh, config.sub and install.sh in source sub-directories 
are all symbolic links to the one located in the source root directory.

I will remove them, and you will tell me what happens! :-)

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 24 17:33:56 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:33:56 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision: 2514
In-Reply-To: <200912241730.24303.gambas@...1...>
References: <1261668434.6421.9.camel@...40...>
	<200912241655.27623.lordheavym@...626...>
	<200912241730.24303.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912241733.56749.gambas@...1...>

> > Le jeudi 24 d?cembre 2009 16:27:14, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > gambas3 Revision: 2514
> > >  does not compile for me , fails at reconf
> > >
> > > Charlie
> >
> > I guess it's because the m4/ltversion.m4 is missing.... There is really a
> >  big differences between libtool 1.5.x and 2.x ! Does the file is present
> > ?
> >
> > With libtool 2.x (and install option)  ltversion.m4 is automaticaly
> >  installed, files  config.guess, ltmain.sh,  config.sub, install-sh are
> > not needed (i've remove them and it's building fine (they are created
> > during make install). Users (benoit and others) should try to remove them
> > and see if they are correctly created (and it's installing fine)
> >
> > Here it's libtool version 2.2.6b (libtool --version);
> >
> > We can keep compatibility with with 1.5.x libtool, but we will have lot
> > of headache with libtool 2.x,
> >
> > ++
> 
> config.guess, ltmain.sh, config.sub and install.sh in source
>  sub-directories are all symbolic links to the one located in the source
>  root directory.
> 
> I will remove them, and you will tell me what happens! :-)
> 

I said rubbish. All these files are not versioned at all, so they are always 
recreated when you do a reconf after a checkout.

So I don't see how Gambas could be compilable with both libtool 1.5 and 
libtool 2.x...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 24 17:36:07 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:36:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dinamic Libraries unused with ldd
In-Reply-To: <1261426482.3630.6.camel@...651...>
References: <1261426482.3630.6.camel@...651...>
Message-ID: <200912241736.07913.gambas@...1...>

> Hello
> 
> I'm seeing the dynamic libs that depends gbx2 file.
> 
> For that I use:
> 
> $ ldd / usr/local/bin/gbx2.
> 
> The result gives me is:
> 
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xb8033000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7ff3000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7fef000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7fd5000)
> libffi.so.5 => /usr/lib/libffi.so.5 (0xb7fcd000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7e6a000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb8034000)
> 
> Now with the -u option, the result is, the result is:
> 
> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6
> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2
> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
> 
> The -u option (unused) shows me what dependencies are not being used.
> 
> Question:
> 
> Can I ignore these dependencies, since they are not being taken into
> account?
> 
> Regards.

No. Apparently the "-u" option is wrong: the mathematical library is used, 
otherwise how could the Sin() interpreter function work? libdl is used for 
loading component, and libpthread is needed by some components too, but not by 
the interpreter directly.

Moreover, as the interpreter usually loads components at program startup, you 
will have to add all the dependencies of these components.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 24 17:39:15 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:39:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL not working (GB_DIR)
In-Reply-To: <4B2C997E.1050906@...1909...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...> <4B2C9465.7080607@...1909...>
	<4B2C997E.1050906@...1909...>
Message-ID: <200912241739.15196.gambas@...1...>

> Doriano Blengino ha scritto:
> > Jesus Guardon ha scritto:
> >>>> Hi again
> >>>>
> >>>> Continuing my testings on GB_DIR, I'm running into a new problem:
> >>>> SHELL command has no effect at all. All sentences using SHELL are not
> >>>> executed. As you can guess, running my project executable the normal
> >>>> way (not using GB_DIR) it is running right. Could this be a bug?
> >>>
> >>> SHELL is just an equivalent of EXEC ["sh", "-c", "XXX"] where "XXX" is
> >>> the string passed to the SHELL command.
> >>
> >> Not at all. No error message is displayed, simply SHELL command seems to
> >> be ignored by the interpreter.
> >> As for launch my program I'm using a shell script (you can see it in the
> >> previous posts), I'm not able to run gdb against myprogram.gambas, or
> >> myprogram (without .sh extension).
> >
> > In a previous mail you wrote:
> >> I am calling my executable from a bash script located in /usr/local/bin
> >>
> >>>>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
> >>>>> #!/bin/sh
> >>>>> export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
> >>>>> export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
> >>>>> exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (In this case, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used, because they already are
> >>>>> in my system).
> >
> > Your "export PATH" command imposes a path which excludes standard unix
> > paths - you will never find system utilities like pidof(1), and neither
> > the shell itself. You should write:
> >
> >     export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin:$PATH
> >
> > to add your personal path the the standard ones. Or, if you are a
> > security paranoid, you could use:
> >
> >     export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
> >
> > This way you don't trust the existing path. This second form excludes
> > /sbin and /usr/sbin; you should add them if you need system
> > administration commands like route, fdisk, reboot, addgroup and many
> > others.
> >
> > Regards,
> 
> Just after hitting the send button, I realized that this idea is correct
> only in part. May be it solves, it is a quick try.
> The right part is that the PATH variable is used by the shell itself, so
> even if your gambas program finds the shell and asks it to execute
> something, the shell will fail to do it. Probably this is not considered
> an error by gambas, so the instruction SHELL "pidof xxx" fails silently.
> 
> The ambigous part is in whether gambas uses PATH to search for the
> shell. If it is so, then your gambas program will not find the shell,
> and gambas should report this, because "an internal instruction of
> gambas is failing". In this case, however, one can ask himself if makes
> it sense to use PATH to search for the shell, which traditionally is
> /bin/sh, and many scripts included system ones address the shell in this
> way. Assuming that SHELL is a substitute for EXEC ["sh", "-c", "...."],
> and that EXEC searches executables in PATH, this would explain all.
> Perhaps would be better to bind SHELL to EXEC ["/bin/sh", "-c", "..."].
> 
> I am not sure if, natively, exec() searches executables in PATH. May be
> that there is the system call exec() which does one thing, and the C
> library wrapped exec() which does differently. In any case, if it is so,
> this would explain my sensation that SHELLs in gambas are slow. In my
> system (a normal Debian), the PATH variable looks like
> "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11"
> . Every time a gambas program invokes a SHELL, the system searches sh in 4
>  directories, and then sh searches for the executable in 4 directories
>  again; the first four directories could be skipped.
> 
> Regards,
> 

That's exactly the point: I send "sh" to the system, asking him to search it 
inside the PATH, by using the execvp() glibc function.

I don't remember why I decided to do that. Maybe it is not useful, maybe I can 
use directly "/bin/sh", and let the user use the EXEC instruction if he needs 
something else?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lordheavym at ...626...  Thu Dec 24 18:15:52 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:15:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision: 2514
In-Reply-To: <200912241733.56749.gambas@...1...>
References: <1261668434.6421.9.camel@...40...>
	<200912241730.24303.gambas@...1...>
	<200912241733.56749.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912241815.52742.lordheavym@...626...>

Le jeudi 24 d?cembre 2009 17:33:56, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > > Le jeudi 24 d?cembre 2009 16:27:14, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > > gambas3 Revision: 2514
> > > >  does not compile for me , fails at reconf
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > >
> > > I guess it's because the m4/ltversion.m4 is missing.... There is really
> > > a big differences between libtool 1.5.x and 2.x ! Does the file is
> > > present ?
> > >
> > > With libtool 2.x (and install option)  ltversion.m4 is automaticaly
> > >  installed, files  config.guess, ltmain.sh,  config.sub, install-sh are
> > > not needed (i've remove them and it's building fine (they are created
> > > during make install). Users (benoit and others) should try to remove
> > > them and see if they are correctly created (and it's installing fine)
> > >
> > > Here it's libtool version 2.2.6b (libtool --version);
> > >
> > > We can keep compatibility with with 1.5.x libtool, but we will have lot
> > > of headache with libtool 2.x,
> > >
> > > ++
> >
> > config.guess, ltmain.sh, config.sub and install.sh in source
> >  sub-directories are all symbolic links to the one located in the source
> >  root directory.
> >
> > I will remove them, and you will tell me what happens! :-)
> 
> I said rubbish. All these files are not versioned at all, so they are
>  always recreated when you do a reconf after a checkout.
> 
> So I don't see how Gambas could be compilable with both libtool 1.5 and
> libtool 2.x...
> 

And they are in the repository see:
http://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gambas/gambas/trunk/gb.opengl/

So they can be removed



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Dec 24 18:30:52 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:30:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL not working (GB_DIR)
In-Reply-To: <200912241739.15196.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B294000.7080507@...2035...>
	<4B2C9465.7080607@...1909...>	<4B2C997E.1050906@...1909...>
	<200912241739.15196.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B33A54C.4030607@...1909...>

Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>> Doriano Blengino ha scritto:
>>     
>>> Jesus Guardon ha scritto:
>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>> SHELL is just an equivalent of EXEC ["sh", "-c", "XXX"] where "XXX" is
>>>>> the string passed to the SHELL command.
>>>>>           
>>>>
>>>>>>> jesus at ...2151...:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/dfhlog
>>>>>>> #!/bin/sh
>>>>>>> export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin
>>>>>>> export GB_DIR=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2
>>>>>>> exec /opt/dfhlog/dfhlog.gambas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>> Your "export PATH" command imposes a path which excludes standard unix
>>> paths - you will never find system utilities like pidof(1), and neither
>>> the shell itself. You should write:
>>>
>>>     export PATH=/opt/dfhlog/gambas2/bin:$PATH
>>>
>>>       
>> The right part is that the PATH variable is used by the shell itself, so
>> even if your gambas program finds the shell and asks it to execute
>> something, the shell will fail to do it. Probably this is not considered
>> an error by gambas, so the instruction SHELL "pidof xxx" fails silently.
>>
>> The ambigous part is in whether gambas uses PATH to search for the
>> shell. If it is so, then your gambas program will not find the shell,
>> and gambas should report this, because "an internal instruction of
>> gambas is failing". In this case, however, one can ask himself if makes
>> it sense to use PATH to search for the shell, which traditionally is
>> /bin/sh, and many scripts included system ones address the shell in this
>> way. Assuming that SHELL is a substitute for EXEC ["sh", "-c", "...."],
>> and that EXEC searches executables in PATH, this would explain all.
>> Perhaps would be better to bind SHELL to EXEC ["/bin/sh", "-c", "..."].
>>
>> I am not sure if, natively, exec() searches executables in PATH. May be
>> that there is the system call exec() which does one thing, and the C
>> library wrapped exec() which does differently. In any case, if it is so,
>> this would explain my sensation that SHELLs in gambas are slow. In my
>> system (a normal Debian), the PATH variable looks like
>> "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11"
>> . Every time a gambas program invokes a SHELL, the system searches sh in 4
>>  directories, and then sh searches for the executable in 4 directories
>>  again; the first four directories could be skipped.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     
>
> That's exactly the point: I send "sh" to the system, asking him to search it 
> inside the PATH, by using the execvp() glibc function.
>
> I don't remember why I decided to do that. Maybe it is not useful, maybe I can 
> use directly "/bin/sh", and let the user use the EXEC instruction if he needs 
> something else?
>
>   
I think there are a few pros in using /bin/sh directly, and perhaps a 
single con.
The pros are: slightly faster; more traditional in the sense that SHELL 
should invoke the "normal" system shell (/bin/sh) and not an arbitrary 
shell due to a mangled PATH; in a case like this one by Jesus, where we 
find a little error in setting PATH, the SHELL statement would work anyway.

The single con, perhaps, is that in a non standard system, with strange 
PATH set up, the SHELL could fail. But this could be overcome by using 
EXEC instead of SHELL: a user special enough to use a special setup, can 
well use EXEC instead of SHELL.

Perhaps a little search in some sources analogue in concept to gambas 
(python, awk...) could be explanatory; I would propend for /bin/sh.

Regards and happy Christmas,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From prog at ...2177...  Fri Dec 25 00:07:29 2009
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:07:29 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dinamic Libraries unused with ldd
In-Reply-To: <200912241736.07913.gambas@...1...>
References: <1261426482.3630.6.camel@...651...>
	<200912241736.07913.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1261696049.3635.0.camel@...651...>

Ok Benoit, Thank you very much. 


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
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Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Dinamic Libraries unused with ldd
Fecha: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:36:07 +0100


> Hello
> 
> I'm seeing the dynamic libs that depends gbx2 file.
> 
> For that I use:
> 
> $ ldd / usr/local/bin/gbx2.
> 
> The result gives me is:
> 
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xb8033000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7ff3000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7fef000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7fd5000)
> libffi.so.5 => /usr/lib/libffi.so.5 (0xb7fcd000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7e6a000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb8034000)
> 
> Now with the -u option, the result is, the result is:
> 
> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6
> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2
> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
> 
> The -u option (unused) shows me what dependencies are not being used.
> 
> Question:
> 
> Can I ignore these dependencies, since they are not being taken into
> account?
> 
> Regards.

No. Apparently the "-u" option is wrong: the mathematical library is used, 
otherwise how could the Sin() interpreter function work? libdl is used for 
loading component, and libpthread is needed by some components too, but not by 
the interpreter directly.

Moreover, as the interpreter usually loads components at program startup, you 
will have to add all the dependencies of these components.

Regards,



From les at ...2337...  Thu Dec 24 20:24:00 2009
From: les at ...2337... (Les Hardy)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:24:00 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Shell sudo
In-Reply-To: <cf2b66e0912231233v79efa0d4r445c2f1c32ef2d5c@...627...>
References: <cf2b66e0912231233v79efa0d4r445c2f1c32ef2d5c@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B33BFD0.20709@...2337...>


sudo allows you to pass a password to the shell with -S
The following should do it.

sudo -S apt-get install PACKAGENAME << EOF
PASSWORD
EOF


Regards
Les Hardy


M. Cs. wrote:
> I'd like to make my app able to download and install packages via apt-get
> (or any other command-line package manager). How can I do that? I know it
> will need the user's password but how can I pass the command?
> The simple SHELL "sudo apt-get install ..." won't do the thing!
> Thanks!
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From mohareve at ...626...  Fri Dec 25 11:01:15 2009
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:01:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Shell sudo
In-Reply-To: <4B33BFD0.20709@...2337...>
References: <cf2b66e0912231233v79efa0d4r445c2f1c32ef2d5c@...627...>
	<4B33BFD0.20709@...2337...>
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I've found a better solution: I've created a module file with a process.
This can be triggered from within the main program.


' Gambas module file
PUBLIC hProcess AS Process
PUBLIC wins AS Form
PUBLIC szoveg1 AS TextBox
PUBLIC SUB ReadPassword()
DIM black AS Button
wins = NEW Form
wins.Width = 150
wins.Height = 300

black = NEW Button(wins)
black.Width = 100
black.Height = 25
black.X = 25
black.Y = 150
Object.Attach(black, ME, "runty")
szoveg1 = NEW TextBox(wins)
szoveg1.Width = 100
szoveg1.Height = 25
szoveg1.X = 25
szoveg1.Y = 120
szoveg1.Password = TRUE
wins.Center
wins.Show()
hProcess = SHELL "sudo  'apt-get install PACKAGE'" FOR INPUT OUTPUT
END

PUBLIC SUB runty_Click()
PRINT #hProcess, szoveg1.Text
wins.Delete()
END
'
PUBLIC SUB Process_read()
DIM sOutput AS String
  LINE INPUT #LAST, sOutput
  PRINT sOutput

END

The only problem is, that I'm trying to create an universal solution, which
is distro independent. But it seems nearly impossible to do, since there are
a conflict between su and sudo commands, or their acceptance by the
different distributions.


From lordheavym at ...626...  Fri Dec 25 17:28:25 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:28:25 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision: 2514
In-Reply-To: <200912241733.56749.gambas@...1...>
References: <1261668434.6421.9.camel@...40...>
	<200912241730.24303.gambas@...1...>
	<200912241733.56749.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912251728.26040.lordheavym@...626...>

Le jeudi 24 d?cembre 2009 17:33:56, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > > Le jeudi 24 d?cembre 2009 16:27:14, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > > gambas3 Revision: 2514
> > > >  does not compile for me , fails at reconf
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > >
> > > I guess it's because the m4/ltversion.m4 is missing.... There is really
> > > a big differences between libtool 1.5.x and 2.x ! Does the file is
> > > present ?
> > >
> > > With libtool 2.x (and install option)  ltversion.m4 is automaticaly
> > >  installed, files  config.guess, ltmain.sh,  config.sub, install-sh are
> > > not needed (i've remove them and it's building fine (they are created
> > > during make install). Users (benoit and others) should try to remove
> > > them and see if they are correctly created (and it's installing fine)
> > >
> > > Here it's libtool version 2.2.6b (libtool --version);
> > >
> > > We can keep compatibility with with 1.5.x libtool, but we will have lot
> > > of headache with libtool 2.x,
> > >
> > > ++
> >
> > config.guess, ltmain.sh, config.sub and install.sh in source
> >  sub-directories are all symbolic links to the one located in the source
> >  root directory.
> >
> > I will remove them, and you will tell me what happens! :-)
> 
> I said rubbish. All these files are not versioned at all, so they are
>  always recreated when you do a reconf after a checkout.
> 
> So I don't see how Gambas could be compilable with both libtool 1.5 and
> libtool 2.x...
> 

And here it's failling to build without '--install' option in libtoolize:
[lordh at ...2346... trunktst]$ ./reconf
libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'.
libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh'
libtoolize: You should add the contents of the following files to 
`aclocal.m4':
libtoolize:   `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4'
libtoolize:   `/usr/share/aclocal/ltoptions.m4'
libtoolize:   `/usr/share/aclocal/ltversion.m4'
libtoolize:   `/usr/share/aclocal/ltsugar.m4'
libtoolize:   `/usr/share/aclocal/lt~obsolete.m4'
libtoolize: Remember to add `LT_INIT' to configure.ac.
libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.ac and
libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in-tree.
libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am.
autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
autoreconf: running: aclocal
autoreconf: configure.ac: tracing
autoreconf: configure.ac: adding subdirectory main to autoreconf
autoreconf: Entering directory `main'
autoreconf: running: aclocal -I m4 --install
autoreconf: configure.ac: not running libtoolize: --install not given
autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoconf
autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoheader
autoreconf: running: automake --no-force
configure.ac:6: required file `./config.guess' not found
configure.ac:6:   `automake --add-missing' can install `config.guess'
configure.ac:6: required file `./config.sub' not found
configure.ac:6:   `automake --add-missing' can install `config.sub'
configure.ac:6: required file `./install-sh' not found
configure.ac:6:   `automake --add-missing' can install `install-sh'
autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec 26 19:17:41 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:17:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision: 2514
In-Reply-To: <200912241815.52742.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <1261668434.6421.9.camel@...40...>
	<200912241733.56749.gambas@...1...>
	<200912241815.52742.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912261917.41107.gambas@...1...>

> Le jeudi 24 d?cembre 2009 17:33:56, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > > > Le jeudi 24 d?cembre 2009 16:27:14, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > > > > gambas3 Revision: 2514
> > > > >  does not compile for me , fails at reconf
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > > I guess it's because the m4/ltversion.m4 is missing.... There is
> > > > really a big differences between libtool 1.5.x and 2.x ! Does the
> > > > file is present ?
> > > >
> > > > With libtool 2.x (and install option)  ltversion.m4 is automaticaly
> > > >  installed, files  config.guess, ltmain.sh,  config.sub, install-sh
> > > > are not needed (i've remove them and it's building fine (they are
> > > > created during make install). Users (benoit and others) should try to
> > > > remove them and see if they are correctly created (and it's
> > > > installing fine)
> > > >
> > > > Here it's libtool version 2.2.6b (libtool --version);
> > > >
> > > > We can keep compatibility with with 1.5.x libtool, but we will have
> > > > lot of headache with libtool 2.x,
> > > >
> > > > ++
> > >
> > > config.guess, ltmain.sh, config.sub and install.sh in source
> > >  sub-directories are all symbolic links to the one located in the
> > > source root directory.
> > >
> > > I will remove them, and you will tell me what happens! :-)
> >
> > I said rubbish. All these files are not versioned at all, so they are
> >  always recreated when you do a reconf after a checkout.
> >
> > So I don't see how Gambas could be compilable with both libtool 1.5 and
> > libtool 2.x...
> 
> And they are in the repository see:
> http://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gambas/gambas/trunk/gb.opengl/
> 
> So they can be removed
> 

Not really. Those who are in the repository are actually symbolic links to the 
same files located in the root directory that are *not* in the repository.

Having symbolic links makes the tar.gz source package generated by autoconf 
tools lighter. I can remove them, they will be regenerated again, but not as 
symbolic links, and the tar.gz source becomes heavier.

But anyway that won't solve the problem: having a source package that can be 
compiled both with libtool 1.5 and libtool 2.x.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lordheavym at ...626...  Sat Dec 26 19:33:04 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:33:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision: 2514
In-Reply-To: <200912261917.41107.gambas@...1...>
References: <1261668434.6421.9.camel@...40...>
	<200912241815.52742.lordheavym@...626...>
	<200912261917.41107.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912261933.04859.lordheavym@...626...>

> Not really. Those who are in the repository are actually symbolic links to
>  the same files located in the root directory that are *not* in the
>  repository.
> 
> Having symbolic links makes the tar.gz source package generated by autoconf
> tools lighter. I can remove them, they will be regenerated again, but not
>  as symbolic links, and the tar.gz source becomes heavier.
> 
> But anyway that won't solve the problem: having a source package that can
>  be compiled both with libtool 1.5 and libtool 2.x.
> 

libtoolize with --install flag overwrite these files, so symlinks are 
destroyed :-/ and without --install, here i cannot generate the appropriate 
files !

Anyway, gambas3 from svn cannot be built without at least libtool 2.x, it 
won't be necessary when gambas3 archives will be out.



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Dec 26 20:27:59 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:27:59 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing chords instead of pie by default
In-Reply-To: <904720.84998.qm@...2247...>
References: <904720.84998.qm@...2247...>
Message-ID: <200912262027.59794.gambas@...1...>

> i am sorry. i added my question.
> 
> --- 20/12/09 Pzr tarihinde Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>  ??yle yaz?yor:
> 
> Kimden: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Konu: Re: [Gambas-user] "form.h" is badly overridden in class 'form3'
> Kime: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Tarihi: 20 Aral?k 2009 Pazar, 0:21
> 
> > thanks.
> > and how can draw arc without line start point (or end point) to center.
> 
> Sorry, I need a better english to understand the question...
> 

OK, I see what you need: drawing chords instead of pies.

I cannot change the drawing interface in Gambas2, only in Gambas3. But I can 
choose to draw arc when the FillStyle property is set to None. I will see what 
I can do and I will tell you.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From rterry at ...1946...  Sat Dec 26 22:58:38 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:58:38 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] 2517-9 compile error ?with opengl
Message-ID: <200912270858.38547.rterry@...1946...>

Making all in opengl
make[5]: Entering directory `/home/richard/gambas3-
svn/src/trunk/gb.qt4/src/opengl'
/bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -
I../.. -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT3_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/QtCore -
I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork -
I/usr/include/QtSql    -I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/include/QtCore -
I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/QtOpenGL     -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -
Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-
pointer  -MT main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/main.Tpo -c -o main.lo main.cpp
libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -
DQT3_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/QtCore -I/usr/include/QtGui -
I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/QtSql -
I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/include/QtCore -I/usr/include/QtGui -
I/usr/include/QtOpenGL -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-
char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT main.lo -MD -MP -
MF .deps/main.Tpo -c main.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/main.o
In file included from main.cpp:29:
CGLarea.h:30:21: error: GL/glew.h: No such file or directory
make[5]: *** [main.lo] Error 1

Any idea's??

Regards

richard



From lordheavym at ...626...  Sat Dec 26 23:09:23 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:09:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] 2517-9 compile error ?with opengl
In-Reply-To: <200912270858.38547.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912270858.38547.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <200912262309.23252.lordheavym@...626...>

Le samedi 26 d?cembre 2009 22:58:38, richard terry a ?crit :
> Making all in opengl
> make[5]: Entering directory `/home/richard/gambas3-
> svn/src/trunk/gb.qt4/src/opengl'
> /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -
> I../.. -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT3_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/QtCore -
> I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork -
> I/usr/include/QtSql    -I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/include/QtCore
>  - I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/QtOpenGL     -pipe -Wall
>  -fno-exceptions - Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g
>  -Os -fno-omit-frame- pointer  -MT main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/main.Tpo -c -o
>  main.lo main.cpp libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../..
>  -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED - DQT3_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/QtCore
>  -I/usr/include/QtGui -
> I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/QtSql -
> I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/include/QtCore -I/usr/include/QtGui -
> I/usr/include/QtOpenGL -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value
>  -fsigned- char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT
>  main.lo -MD -MP - MF .deps/main.Tpo -c main.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
>  .libs/main.o
> In file included from main.cpp:29:
> CGLarea.h:30:21: error: GL/glew.h: No such file or directory
> make[5]: *** [main.lo] Error 1
> 

Yes, now you need libglew package (and devel files of course)

++



From rterry at ...1946...  Sat Dec 26 23:21:40 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:21:40 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] 2517-9 compile error ?with opengl
In-Reply-To: <200912262309.23252.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <200912270858.38547.rterry@...1946...>
	<200912262309.23252.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912270921.41014.rterry@...1946...>

On Sunday 27 December 2009 09:09:23 Laurent Carlier wrote:
> Le samedi 26 d?cembre 2009 22:58:38, richard terry a ?crit :
> > Making all in opengl
> > make[5]: Entering directory `/home/richard/gambas3-
> > svn/src/trunk/gb.qt4/src/opengl'
> > /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
> > - I../.. -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT3_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/QtCore -
> > I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork -
> > I/usr/include/QtSql    -I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED
> > -I/usr/include/QtCore - I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/QtOpenGL    
> > -pipe -Wall
> >  -fno-exceptions - Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g
> >  -Os -fno-omit-frame- pointer  -MT main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/main.Tpo -c
> > -o main.lo main.cpp libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../..
> > -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED - DQT3_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/QtCore
> >  -I/usr/include/QtGui -
> > I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/QtSql -
> > I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/include/QtCore -I/usr/include/QtGui
> > - I/usr/include/QtOpenGL -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value
> > -fsigned- char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT
> > main.lo -MD -MP - MF .deps/main.Tpo -c main.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
> > .libs/main.o
> > In file included from main.cpp:29:
> > CGLarea.h:30:21: error: GL/glew.h: No such file or directory
> > make[5]: *** [main.lo] Error 1
> 
> Yes, now you need libglew package (and devel files of course)
> 
> ++
> 
Dosnt seem to be a libglew package in ARCH linux, could it go under a 
different name?



From lordheavym at ...626...  Sat Dec 26 23:37:29 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:37:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] 2517-9 compile error ?with opengl
In-Reply-To: <200912270921.41014.rterry@...1946...>
References: <200912270858.38547.rterry@...1946...>
	<200912262309.23252.lordheavym@...626...>
	<200912270921.41014.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <200912262337.29896.lordheavym@...626...>

Le samedi 26 d?cembre 2009 23:21:40, richard terry a ?crit :
> On Sunday 27 December 2009 09:09:23 Laurent Carlier wrote:
> > Le samedi 26 d?cembre 2009 22:58:38, richard terry a ?crit :
> > > Making all in opengl
> > > make[5]: Entering directory `/home/richard/gambas3-
> > > svn/src/trunk/gb.qt4/src/opengl'
> > > /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
> > > -I. - I../.. -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT3_SUPPORT
> > > -I/usr/include/QtCore - I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/Qt3Support
> > > -I/usr/include/QtNetwork - I/usr/include/QtSql    -I/usr/include/GL/
> > > -DQT_SHARED
> > > -I/usr/include/QtCore - I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/QtOpenGL
> > > -pipe -Wall
> > >  -fno-exceptions - Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden
> > > -g -Os -fno-omit-frame- pointer  -MT main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/main.Tpo
> > > -c -o main.lo main.cpp libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
> > > -I../.. -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED - DQT3_SUPPORT -I/usr/include/QtCore
> > > -I/usr/include/QtGui -
> > > I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/QtSql
> > > - I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/include/QtCore
> > > -I/usr/include/QtGui - I/usr/include/QtOpenGL -pipe -Wall
> > > -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned- char -fvisibility=hidden -g
> > > -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT main.lo -MD -MP - MF .deps/main.Tpo -c
> > > main.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/main.o
> > > In file included from main.cpp:29:
> > > CGLarea.h:30:21: error: GL/glew.h: No such file or directory
> > > make[5]: *** [main.lo] Error 1
> >
> > Yes, now you need libglew package (and devel files of course)
> >
> > ++
> 
> Dosnt seem to be a libglew package in ARCH linux, could it go under a
> different name?
> 

[lordh at ...2346... ~]$ pacman -Qs glew
local/glew 1.5.1-1
    A cross-platform C/C++ extension loading library



From rterry at ...1946...  Sat Dec 26 23:50:50 2009
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:50:50 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] 2517-9 compile error ?with opengl
In-Reply-To: <200912262337.29896.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <200912270858.38547.rterry@...1946...>
	<200912270921.41014.rterry@...1946...>
	<200912262337.29896.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912270950.50368.rterry@...1946...>

On Sunday 27 December 2009 09:37:29 you wrote:
> Le samedi 26 d?cembre 2009 23:21:40, richard terry a ?crit :
> > On Sunday 27 December 2009 09:09:23 Laurent Carlier wrote:
> > > Le samedi 26 d?cembre 2009 22:58:38, richard terry a ?crit :
> > > > Making all in opengl
> > > > make[5]: Entering directory `/home/richard/gambas3-
> > > > svn/src/trunk/gb.qt4/src/opengl'
> > > > /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
> > > > -I. - I../.. -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT3_SUPPORT
> > > > -I/usr/include/QtCore - I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/Qt3Support
> > > > -I/usr/include/QtNetwork - I/usr/include/QtSql    -I/usr/include/GL/
> > > > -DQT_SHARED
> > > > -I/usr/include/QtCore - I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/QtOpenGL
> > > > -pipe -Wall
> > > >  -fno-exceptions - Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden
> > > > -g -Os -fno-omit-frame- pointer  -MT main.lo -MD -MP -MF
> > > > .deps/main.Tpo -c -o main.lo main.cpp libtool: compile:  g++
> > > > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED - DQT3_SUPPORT
> > > > -I/usr/include/QtCore -I/usr/include/QtGui -
> > > > I/usr/include/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/QtNetwork
> > > > -I/usr/include/QtSql - I/usr/include/GL/ -DQT_SHARED
> > > > -I/usr/include/QtCore
> > > > -I/usr/include/QtGui - I/usr/include/QtOpenGL -pipe -Wall
> > > > -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned- char -fvisibility=hidden
> > > > -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT main.lo -MD -MP - MF
> > > > .deps/main.Tpo -c main.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/main.o
> > > > In file included from main.cpp:29:
> > > > CGLarea.h:30:21: error: GL/glew.h: No such file or directory
> > > > make[5]: *** [main.lo] Error 1
> > >
> > > Yes, now you need libglew package (and devel files of course)
> > >
> > > ++
> >
> > Dosnt seem to be a libglew package in ARCH linux, could it go under a
> > different name?
> 
> [lordh at ...2346... ~]$ pacman -Qs glew
> local/glew 1.5.1-1
>     A cross-platform C/C++ extension loading library
> 
All good compiled and working, thanks.

Richard




From pinozollo at ...626...  Sun Dec 27 22:16:09 2009
From: pinozollo at ...626... (Pino Zollo)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:16:09 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] XML-RPC
Message-ID: <200912271816.10256.pinozollo@...626...>

Hi 

is there any example of XML and XML-RPC available ?

best 2010 !

in gambaS n? !

Pino
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From dr.diesel at ...626...  Mon Dec 28 02:20:48 2009
From: dr.diesel at ...626... (Dr. Diesel)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:20:48 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
Message-ID: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>

Looking to do something like this from VB6

Public DatabaseInfo(NUM_MAX_DB) As DBinfo
Type DBinfo
    DatabasePath    As String
    DatabaseName    As String
    TableName       As String
    PurgeSQL        As String
    PurgeSQL2       As String
End Type

Any way to do types in gambas3?

Many thanks

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From dr.diesel at ...626...  Mon Dec 28 03:37:43 2009
From: dr.diesel at ...626... (Dr. Diesel)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:37:43 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Latest SVN-2531 gbr3 100% CPU
Message-ID: <2a28d2ab0912271837h5e81e231n44af741b5c76ed47@...627...>

Haven't done an SVN pull in a couple days so this is fairly new.  Firing
gambas3 brings up the flash screen, picking any existing app or even a new
app causes gbr3 to spike and hold 100% CPU.  Have to kill the process to
clear it up.

Running Fedora 12.i386, happy to provide any further info by request.

-- 
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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Dec 28 03:54:54 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:54:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Latest SVN-2531 gbr3 100% CPU
In-Reply-To: <2a28d2ab0912271837h5e81e231n44af741b5c76ed47@...627...>
References: <2a28d2ab0912271837h5e81e231n44af741b5c76ed47@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912280354.54509.gambas@...1...>

> Haven't done an SVN pull in a couple days so this is fairly new.  Firing
> gambas3 brings up the flash screen, picking any existing app or even a new
> app causes gbr3 to spike and hold 100% CPU.  Have to kill the process to
> clear it up.
> 
> Running Fedora 12.i386, happy to provide any further info by request.
> 

It should be better with revision #2532.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From dr.diesel at ...626...  Mon Dec 28 04:12:42 2009
From: dr.diesel at ...626... (Dr. Diesel)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:12:42 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Latest SVN-2531 gbr3 100% CPU
In-Reply-To: <200912280354.54509.gambas@...1...>
References: <2a28d2ab0912271837h5e81e231n44af741b5c76ed47@...627...>
	<200912280354.54509.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <2a28d2ab0912271912v59d6ce5eyb36dbbdb9faa47ea@...627...>

2009/12/27 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > Haven't done an SVN pull in a couple days so this is fairly new.  Firing
> > gambas3 brings up the flash screen, picking any existing app or even a
> new
> > app causes gbr3 to spike and hold 100% CPU.  Have to kill the process to
> > clear it up.
> >
> > Running Fedora 12.i386, happy to provide any further info by request.
> >
>
> It should be better with revision #2532.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>

Yes, thank you, all appears normal now.

Andy
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From ron at ...1740...  Mon Dec 28 10:31:00 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:31:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] ValueBox Keypress event
Message-ID: <4B387AD4.6090800@...1740...>


The KeyPress event of a ValueBox doesn't seem to get triggered if you 
enter a value.
The Change event does.

Gambas 2.18.0
gb.qt

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From ron at ...1740...  Mon Dec 28 10:34:09 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:34:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] XML-RPC
In-Reply-To: <200912271816.10256.pinozollo@...626...>
References: <200912271816.10256.pinozollo@...626...>
Message-ID: <4B387B91.5010602@...1740...>

Pino Zollo wrote:
> Hi 
>
> is there any example of XML and XML-RPC available ?
>
> best 2010 !
>
> in gambaS n? !
>
> Pino
>   
Hi,

XML-RPC Server:
http://www.domotiga.nl/projects/domotiga/browser/trunk/DomotiGaServer/CXMLRPC.class
Client:
http://www.domotiga.nl/projects/domotiga/browser/trunk/DomotiGa/XMLClient.module

Regards,
Ron_2nd.




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Dec 28 12:14:31 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:14:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
In-Reply-To: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>
References: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912280314gfe74f08l470d17d73ce0ab3@...627...>

use a class ;
TDBInfo
'Gambas Class

PUBLIC ? ?DatabasePath ? ?As String
PUBLIC ? ?DatabaseName ? ?As String
PUBLIC ? ?TableName ? ? ? As String
PUBLIC ? ?PurgeSQL ? ? ? ?As String
PUBLIC ? ?PurgeSQL2 ? ? ? As String


then :

Public DatabaseInfo As DBinfo[NUM_MAX_DB]

2009/12/28 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:
> Looking to do something like this from VB6
>
> Public DatabaseInfo(NUM_MAX_DB) As DBinfo
> Type DBinfo
> ? ?DatabasePath ? ?As String
> ? ?DatabaseName ? ?As String
> ? ?TableName ? ? ? As String
> ? ?PurgeSQL ? ? ? ?As String
> ? ?PurgeSQL2 ? ? ? As String
> End Type
>
> Any way to do types in gambas3?
>
> Many thanks
>
> --
> projecthuh.com
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From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Mon Dec 28 14:13:41 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:13:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] have a App to add to page for Gambas applications
Message-ID: <1262006021.6393.22.camel@...40...>

Salut Benoit,

we have a application to add to page for Gambas applications.
But, I can't access to the  http://gambasdoc.org/help/app. No rights!  
to create the wiki page.

Author     : Christian Faure
           : Charlie Reinl (Co-Author, also for porting to gambas2)

Application: DBReport2

Description: A tool for the creation and issuance of reports. 
	     DBReport exists for gambas1 and gambas2.

Licence    : GPL

Website    : http://dbreport.sourceforge.net/ 

Download   : http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbreport/

Wiki       :
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/dbreport/index.php?title=Main_Page

SVN        :
svn co https://dbreport.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/dbreport dbreport

-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From gambas at ...1...  Mon Dec 28 14:58:57 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:58:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] have a App to add to page for Gambas applications
In-Reply-To: <1262006021.6393.22.camel@...40...>
References: <1262006021.6393.22.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <200912281458.57068.gambas@...1...>

> Salut Benoit,
> 
> we have a application to add to page for Gambas applications.
> But, I can't access to the  http://gambasdoc.org/help/app. No rights!
> to create the wiki page.
> 
> Author     : Christian Faure
> 
>            : Charlie Reinl (Co-Author, also for porting to gambas2)
> 
> Application: DBReport2
> 
> Description: A tool for the creation and issuance of reports.
> 	     DBReport exists for gambas1 and gambas2.
> 
> Licence    : GPL
> 
> Website    : http://dbreport.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Download   : http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbreport/
> 
> Wiki       :
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/dbreport/index.php?title=Main_Page
> 
> SVN        :
> svn co https://dbreport.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/dbreport dbreport
> 

Just give me a password and I will grant you a write access. Easy...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From norarg at ...2311...  Mon Dec 28 15:07:17 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (norarg)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:07:17 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Generating Forms
In-Reply-To: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>
References: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP887832084D24DC6693F8B4A87B0@...693...>

Hi,

I am a little confused, and just do not find out where I am wrong: I
have generated a form for database use, just parsed some data from an
existing form and wrote a new. Then loaded it into the IDE. (Wrote .form
and  (still) empty .class). The form looks good, but when starting the
programm, I get the message: <Missing as in form definition>.
The .class-file is completly empty. Is there anything to consider when
writing a .class-file? 

As long as the .class-file was none-existent, at least the programm
startet (there are about 15 different forms in the app), and I had not
called the generated form yet. I have found nothing in the docu about
this.


Using Ubuntu 9.10/Gambas 2.13

Thanks,
norarg


From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Mon Dec 28 17:01:05 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:01:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] have a App to add to page for Gambas applications
In-Reply-To: <200912281458.57068.gambas@...1...>
References: <1262006021.6393.22.camel@...40...>
	<200912281458.57068.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1262016066.6957.5.camel@...40...>

Am Montag, den 28.12.2009, 14:58 +0100 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> > Salut Benoit,
> > 
> > we have a application to add to page for Gambas applications.
> > But, I can't access to the  http://gambasdoc.org/help/app. No rights!
> > to create the wiki page.
> > 
> > Author     : Christian Faure
> > 
> >            : Charlie Reinl (Co-Author, also for porting to gambas2)
> > 
> > Application: DBReport2
> > 
> > Description: A tool for the creation and issuance of reports.
> > 	     DBReport exists for gambas1 and gambas2.
> > 
> > Licence    : GPL
> > 
> > Website    : http://dbreport.sourceforge.net/
> > 
> > Download   : http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbreport/
> > 
> > Wiki       :
> > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/dbreport/index.php?title=Main_Page
> > 
> > SVN        :
> > svn co https://dbreport.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/dbreport dbreport
> > 
> 
> Just give me a password and I will grant you a write access. Easy...
> 

Salut,

User : dashboard68
PW   : F09000HdM


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Dec 28 18:25:49 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:25:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] have a App to add to page for Gambas applications
In-Reply-To: <1262016066.6957.5.camel@...40...>
References: <1262006021.6393.22.camel@...40...>
	<200912281458.57068.gambas@...1...>
	<1262016066.6957.5.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912280925y49d95d12s7647fd1b8cff608e@...627...>

lol not on mailing list !

2009/12/28 Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>:
> Am Montag, den 28.12.2009, 14:58 +0100 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> > Salut Benoit,
>> >
>> > we have a application to add to page for Gambas applications.
>> > But, I can't access to the ?http://gambasdoc.org/help/app. No rights!
>> > to create the wiki page.
>> >
>> > Author ? ? : Christian Faure
>> >
>> > ? ? ? ? ? ?: Charlie Reinl (Co-Author, also for porting to gambas2)
>> >
>> > Application: DBReport2
>> >
>> > Description: A tool for the creation and issuance of reports.
>> > ? ? ? ? ?DBReport exists for gambas1 and gambas2.
>> >
>> > Licence ? ?: GPL
>> >
>> > Website ? ?: http://dbreport.sourceforge.net/
>> >
>> > Download ? : http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbreport/
>> >
>> > Wiki ? ? ? :
>> > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/dbreport/index.php?title=Main_Page
>> >
>> > SVN ? ? ? ?:
>> > svn co https://dbreport.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/dbreport dbreport
>> >
>>
>> Just give me a password and I will grant you a write access. Easy...
>>
>
> Salut,
>
> User : dashboard68
> PW ? : F09000HdM
>
>
> --
> Amicalement
> Charlie
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Mon Dec 28 18:58:25 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:58:25 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] have a App to add to page for Gambas applications
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912280925y49d95d12s7647fd1b8cff608e@...627...>
References: <1262006021.6393.22.camel@...40...>
	<200912281458.57068.gambas@...1...>
	<1262016066.6957.5.camel@...40...>
	<6324a42a0912280925y49d95d12s7647fd1b8cff608e@...627...>
Message-ID: <1262023105.6957.10.camel@...40...>

Oh, nice , me also, getting member ;-(


Am Montag, den 28.12.2009, 18:25 +0100 schrieb Fabien Bodard:
> lol not on mailing list !
> 
> 2009/12/28 Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>:
> > Am Montag, den 28.12.2009, 14:58 +0100 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> >> > Salut Benoit,
> >> >
> >> > we have a application to add to page for Gambas applications.
> >> > But, I can't access to the  http://gambasdoc.org/help/app. No rights!
> >> > to create the wiki page.
> >> >
> >> > Author     : Christian Faure
> >> >
> >> >            : Charlie Reinl (Co-Author, also for porting to gambas2)
> >> >
> >> > Application: DBReport2
> >> >
> >> > Description: A tool for the creation and issuance of reports.
> >> >          DBReport exists for gambas1 and gambas2.
> >> >
> >> > Licence    : GPL
> >> >
> >> > Website    : http://dbreport.sourceforge.net/
> >> >
> >> > Download   : http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbreport/
> >> >
> >> > Wiki       :
> >> > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/dbreport/index.php?title=Main_Page
> >> >
> >> > SVN        :
> >> > svn co https://dbreport.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/dbreport dbreport
> >> >
> >>
> >> Just give me a password and I will grant you a write access. Easy...
> >>
> >
> > Salut,
> >
> > User : dashboard68
> > PW   : F09000HdM
> >
> >
> > --
> > Amicalement
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community
> > Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
> > A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy
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> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
> 
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From norarg at ...2311...  Mon Dec 28 21:23:11 2009
From: norarg at ...2311... (norarg)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:23:11 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange behavior of Items on panel
In-Reply-To: <1262023105.6957.10.camel@...40...>
References: <1262006021.6393.22.camel@...40...>
	<200912281458.57068.gambas@...1...>
	<1262016066.6957.5.camel@...40...>
	<6324a42a0912280925y49d95d12s7647fd1b8cff608e@...627...>
	<1262023105.6957.10.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP73BCC2128E372605B9669CA87B0@...693...>

Hi,

I have a form with one panel, on this some textboxes and comboboxes. In
design-mode they have the right height of 21 pix, when running the
programm they get 24 pix high. I have turned off all expand- and
autoarrange-properties, and set the scaled-porperty on the form to
false.

I also have tried to resize when running the programm, then I get 22 pix
height rather than 21. It just does not look as designed. Sure I could
make everything a little less high while designing, but I also do not
know what is happening when changing to higher screen resolution - have
no possibilities myself, to test this - old monitor with max 1024x768
pix.

Does someone have an idea?
(Ubuntu 9.10/Gambas 2.13)

Thanks and regards
norarg


From dr.diesel at ...626...  Mon Dec 28 22:02:01 2009
From: dr.diesel at ...626... (Dr. Diesel)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:02:01 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912280314gfe74f08l470d17d73ce0ab3@...627...>
References: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912280314gfe74f08l470d17d73ce0ab3@...627...>
Message-ID: <2a28d2ab0912281302l3413ef18k296f0b4b9d4cbf4f@...627...>

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:

> use a class ;
> TDBInfo
> 'Gambas Class
>
> PUBLIC    DatabasePath    As String
> PUBLIC    DatabaseName    As String
> PUBLIC    TableName       As String
> PUBLIC    PurgeSQL        As String
> PUBLIC    PurgeSQL2       As String
>
>
> then :
>
> Public DatabaseInfo As DBinfo[NUM_MAX_DB]
>
>
Thank you!  I can get this to work, just there seems no way to make it
global and accessable across different modules/classes.

-- 
projecthuh.com
All of my bits are free, are yours?  Fedoraproject.org
"I'd rather have dead offenders than repeat offenders" - Ted Nugent


From jlichter at ...20...  Tue Dec 29 01:10:05 2009
From: jlichter at ...20... (JLichter)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:10:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.report pagebreak?
Message-ID: <1262045405.3629.3.camel@...2347...>

I use Ubuntu 9.10 with Gambas 2.13 and I try the gb.report.
All is running good, however I can't create a page 2 or more in the
report.
Is it possible two create more pages (pagebreak)?

Thanks in advance,
jo42

Here my code:
___________________________________________________


' Gambas module file

PRIVATE hCon AS NEW Connection
PRIVATE hResult AS Result
PRIVATE hReport AS Report

PUBLIC SUB Main()
  hcon.Close() ' sure is sure
  hcon.host = "localhost"
  hCon.User = "root"
  hCon.Type = "mysql"
  hcon.Name = "test"
  hcon.Password = "mysql_password"
  hcon.Open()
  hResult = hcon.Find("test", "active=1", TRUE)
  InitReport()
  hcon.Close()
  Report.Preview()

  ' GB 2.13 Error if more as 10 DS:
  ' The Program has stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11
  ' (This is not a bug in your project, but a bug in the interpreter.)
  ' hint:
  hReport.Clear()
END


PRIVATE SUB InitReport()

  DIM hLabel AS ReportLabel
  DIM hField AS ReportField
  DIM hHbox AS ReportHBox
  DIM hEmpty AS ReportHBox
  DIM hVBox AS ReportVBox
  DIM hSpecialField AS ReportSpecialField


  Report.Size = "A4"
  Report.LineStyle = line.Solid
  Report.Padding = "1 cm"
  Report.Resolution = Desktop.Resolution


    ' Header
    hLabel = NEW ReportLabel(Report)
    hLabel.Text = "REPORT TEST"
    hLabel.Height = "2.5 cm"
    hLabel.Alignment = Align.Center
    hLabel.Font.Size = 25
    hLabel.LineStyle = Line.Solid
    hLabel.FillColor = Color.LightGray
    hLabel.FillStyle = Fill.Solid

    hVBox = NEW ReportVBox(Report)
    hVBox.Height = "1 cm"

    hReport = NEW Report(Report)
    hReport.Expand = TRUE
     
     'to do
     'hReport.Count = hResult.Count



' Abstand zwischen den DS
hReport.Spacing = "0.2 cm"

FOR EACH hResult

      hVBox = NEW ReportVBox(hReport)
      hVBox.Height = "1.5 cm"
      hVBox.Padding = "0.2 cm"
      hVBox.LineStyle = Line.Solid

        hHbox = NEW ReportHBox(hVBox)
        hHbox.Height = "0.5 cm"


          hLabel = NEW ReportLabel(hHbox)
          hLabel.Text = "Name:"
          hLabel.Width = "2 cm"
          hLabel.Font.Bold = TRUE

          hField = NEW ReportField(hHbox)
          hField.MaxLength = 40
          hField.LineStyle = Line.Solid
          hField.Width = "4 cm"
          hField.Font.Bold = TRUE
          hField.Data = hResult!name



          hEmpty = NEW ReportHBox(hHbox)
          hEmpty.Expand = TRUE



          hLabel = NEW ReportLabel(hHbox)
          hLabel.Text = "Geburtstag:"
          hField = NEW ReportField(hHbox)
          hField.Width = "2 cm"
          hField.Data = hResult!birth



          hHbox = NEW ReportHBox(hVBox)
          hHbox.Height = "0.5 cm"



          hLabel = NEW ReportLabel(hHbox)
          hLabel.Text = "Vorname:"
          hLabel.Width = "2 cm"
          hLabel.ForeColor = color.Gray

          hField = NEW ReportField(hHbox)
          hField.MaxLength = 40
          hField.LineStyle = Line.Solid
          hField.Width = "4 cm"
          hField.Font.Italic = TRUE
          hField.ForeColor = color.Gray
          hField.Data = hResult!firstname

  NEXT

    hSpecialField = NEW ReportSpecialField(Report)

    hSpecialField.Text = "Seite $PAGE / $NPAGE"
    hSpecialField.Height = "1 cm"
    hSpecialField.Alignment = align.Center

END


From charles at ...1784...  Tue Dec 29 08:18:57 2009
From: charles at ...1784... (charlesg)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:18:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
In-Reply-To: <2a28d2ab0912281302l3413ef18k296f0b4b9d4cbf4f@...627...>
References: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912280314gfe74f08l470d17d73ce0ab3@...627...>
	<2a28d2ab0912281302l3413ef18k296f0b4b9d4cbf4f@...627...>
Message-ID: <26951829.post@...1379...>


Hi

Project, Options, "Module symbols are public by default"=yes ?

rgds
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From linuxos at ...1896...  Tue Dec 29 08:19:05 2009
From: linuxos at ...1896... (Olivier Cruilles)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:19:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange event in a ComboBox
Message-ID: <9C4882CA-6D24-419E-A51B-955B6F6A4147@...1896...>

Benoit,

I'm following my project and in a ComboBox I found a strange event.

On Gambas v2.18 on Fedora11.

I joined a list a data in this ComboxBox manually by the IDE and when
I add the word 'or', 'OR', '-or-', etc... in this list,  the project can't start because
the IDE add at the end of the line in the Form definition a wrong ')'.

If I remove the line with the 'or' word, all it's ok.

It's not really important for me, just to inform you.


Olivier Cruilles
Mail: linuxos at ...1896...





From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 11:03:08 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:03:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.report pagebreak?
In-Reply-To: <1262045405.3629.3.camel@...2347...>
References: <1262045405.3629.3.camel@...2347...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912290203g7644b164hadf90537fc82c425@...627...>

Please wait gambas3 to use the gb.report component as it is not
finished ! it's just an early alpha version in gb2.

Regards,
Fabien Bodard

2009/12/29 JLichter <jlichter at ...20...>:
> I use Ubuntu 9.10 with Gambas 2.13 and I try the gb.report.
> All is running good, however I can't create a page 2 or more in the
> report.
> Is it possible two create more pages (pagebreak)?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> jo42
>
> Here my code:
> ___________________________________________________
>
>
> ' Gambas module file
>
> PRIVATE hCon AS NEW Connection
> PRIVATE hResult AS Result
> PRIVATE hReport AS Report
>
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
> ?hcon.Close() ' sure is sure
> ?hcon.host = "localhost"
> ?hCon.User = "root"
> ?hCon.Type = "mysql"
> ?hcon.Name = "test"
> ?hcon.Password = "mysql_password"
> ?hcon.Open()
> ?hResult = hcon.Find("test", "active=1", TRUE)
> ?InitReport()
> ?hcon.Close()
> ?Report.Preview()
>
> ?' GB 2.13 Error if more as 10 DS:
> ?' The Program has stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11
> ?' (This is not a bug in your project, but a bug in the interpreter.)
> ?' hint:
> ?hReport.Clear()
> END
>
>
> PRIVATE SUB InitReport()
>
> ?DIM hLabel AS ReportLabel
> ?DIM hField AS ReportField
> ?DIM hHbox AS ReportHBox
> ?DIM hEmpty AS ReportHBox
> ?DIM hVBox AS ReportVBox
> ?DIM hSpecialField AS ReportSpecialField
>
>
> ?Report.Size = "A4"
> ?Report.LineStyle = line.Solid
> ?Report.Padding = "1 cm"
> ?Report.Resolution = Desktop.Resolution
>
>
> ? ?' Header
> ? ?hLabel = NEW ReportLabel(Report)
> ? ?hLabel.Text = "REPORT TEST"
> ? ?hLabel.Height = "2.5 cm"
> ? ?hLabel.Alignment = Align.Center
> ? ?hLabel.Font.Size = 25
> ? ?hLabel.LineStyle = Line.Solid
> ? ?hLabel.FillColor = Color.LightGray
> ? ?hLabel.FillStyle = Fill.Solid
>
> ? ?hVBox = NEW ReportVBox(Report)
> ? ?hVBox.Height = "1 cm"
>
> ? ?hReport = NEW Report(Report)
> ? ?hReport.Expand = TRUE
>
> ? ? 'to do
> ? ? 'hReport.Count = hResult.Count
>
>
>
> ' Abstand zwischen den DS
> hReport.Spacing = "0.2 cm"
>
> FOR EACH hResult
>
> ? ? ?hVBox = NEW ReportVBox(hReport)
> ? ? ?hVBox.Height = "1.5 cm"
> ? ? ?hVBox.Padding = "0.2 cm"
> ? ? ?hVBox.LineStyle = Line.Solid
>
> ? ? ? ?hHbox = NEW ReportHBox(hVBox)
> ? ? ? ?hHbox.Height = "0.5 cm"
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel = NEW ReportLabel(hHbox)
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel.Text = "Name:"
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel.Width = "2 cm"
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel.Font.Bold = TRUE
>
> ? ? ? ? ?hField = NEW ReportField(hHbox)
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.MaxLength = 40
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.LineStyle = Line.Solid
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.Width = "4 cm"
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.Font.Bold = TRUE
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.Data = hResult!name
>
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ?hEmpty = NEW ReportHBox(hHbox)
> ? ? ? ? ?hEmpty.Expand = TRUE
>
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel = NEW ReportLabel(hHbox)
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel.Text = "Geburtstag:"
> ? ? ? ? ?hField = NEW ReportField(hHbox)
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.Width = "2 cm"
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.Data = hResult!birth
>
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ?hHbox = NEW ReportHBox(hVBox)
> ? ? ? ? ?hHbox.Height = "0.5 cm"
>
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel = NEW ReportLabel(hHbox)
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel.Text = "Vorname:"
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel.Width = "2 cm"
> ? ? ? ? ?hLabel.ForeColor = color.Gray
>
> ? ? ? ? ?hField = NEW ReportField(hHbox)
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.MaxLength = 40
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.LineStyle = Line.Solid
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.Width = "4 cm"
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.Font.Italic = TRUE
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.ForeColor = color.Gray
> ? ? ? ? ?hField.Data = hResult!firstname
>
> ?NEXT
>
> ? ?hSpecialField = NEW ReportSpecialField(Report)
>
> ? ?hSpecialField.Text = "Seite $PAGE / $NPAGE"
> ? ?hSpecialField.Height = "1 cm"
> ? ?hSpecialField.Alignment = align.Center
>
> END
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community
> Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
> A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy
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From dr.diesel at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 11:10:02 2009
From: dr.diesel at ...626... (Dr. Diesel)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:10:02 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:18 AM, charlesg <charles at ...1784...>wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> Project, Options, "Module symbols are public by default"=yes ?
>
> rgds
>
> Thank you, but I must still be confused.  Please see the following example:

I have the following in my startup class/form:

Public IOvariables1 As New IOvariables

Then, in my IOvariables.class

Public DriveWheelLeft As Integer = 1
Public DriveWheelRight As Integer = 2
Public HeadLR As Integer = 90
Public HeadUD As Integer = 90
Public IRLeft As Integer = 0

If I try and use IOvariables1 in a separate module, I receive an unknown
identifier error?

What am I doing wrong?

Many thanks



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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 11:23:21 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:23:21 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
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2009/12/29 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
>
>> use a class ;
>> TDBInfo
>> 'Gambas Class
>>
>> PUBLIC ? ?DatabasePath ? ?As String
>> PUBLIC ? ?DatabaseName ? ?As String
>> PUBLIC ? ?TableName ? ? ? As String
>> PUBLIC ? ?PurgeSQL ? ? ? ?As String
>> PUBLIC ? ?PurgeSQL2 ? ? ? As String
>>
>>
>> then :
>>
>> Public DatabaseInfo As DBinfo[NUM_MAX_DB]
>>
>>
> Thank you! ?I can get this to work, just there seems no way to make it
> global and accessable across different modules/classes.

So pass the object around. That's what instantiated objects are for, hey.

Dim oSomeObject as New cSomeClass
Dim sR as String

oSomeObject.ObscureProperty = 10
oSomeObject.AnotherObscureProperty = "Some Value"

sR = mSomeObscureModule.SomeObscureMethod(oSomeObject)

If sR = WhatIexpected then
  ThrowParty
Else
  Sulk
EndIf

>> Looking to do something like this from VB6

Gambas is nothing like VB. I struggled with gambas for two months,
caught between it and many years of MS experience, from VB2 to .NET
2007. Perseverance and determination will pay off with great rewards,
but be prepared for heartache.

That, btw, is not any criticism of Gambas. It is more a reflection of
the truism that one's learning ability reduces with age :)

See...?

Class cLogRecord:
' Gambas class file

Public LogDate As Float
Public Subject As String
Public Post As String
Public Status As String
Public LogFrom As String
Public LogTo As String

------------------------------------------------------

Class cProxy:
' Gambas class file
' ***************************************************************************
' * cProxy
' * Manages the data between the client and the server
' ***************************************************************************

Private oLog As cLogRecord                      ' A log record

[...]

Private Sub SomeMethod()
  oLog.Status = Buffer
  mSystemDataManager.AddLog(oLog)
End



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 11:31:56 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:31:56 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
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2009/12/29 charlesg <charles at ...1784...>:
>
> Hi
>
> Project, Options, "Module symbols are public by default"=yes ?

I'm sorry, Charles, but I must disagree with that solution. Some time
back in the distant past (over 2yrs ago) there was a change in Gambas
that meant the compiler made module symbols private by default, which
would break some older code. "Module symbols are public by
default"=yes was added only to assist transitional code, and certainly
not to fix the OP's problem.

HTH



From dr.diesel at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 11:40:46 2009
From: dr.diesel at ...626... (Dr. Diesel)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:40:46 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912290223u22dd5b9cwec4a92f58735cc0f@...627...>
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Kadaitcha Man <
nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...> wrote:

> 2009/12/29 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:
> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> use a class ;
> >> TDBInfo
> >> 'Gambas Class
> >>
> >> PUBLIC    DatabasePath    As String
> >> PUBLIC    DatabaseName    As String
> >> PUBLIC    TableName       As String
> >> PUBLIC    PurgeSQL        As String
> >> PUBLIC    PurgeSQL2       As String
> >>
> >>
> >> then :
> >>
> >> Public DatabaseInfo As DBinfo[NUM_MAX_DB]
> >>
> >>
> > Thank you!  I can get this to work, just there seems no way to make it
> > global and accessable across different modules/classes.
>
> So pass the object around. That's what instantiated objects are for, hey.
>

Thanks for the help.  I just need to confirm if it is not currently possible
in gambas3 or am I just doing something wrong?



-- 
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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 12:06:51 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:06:51 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
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2009/12/29 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:

> just there seems no way to make it
> global and accessable across different modules/classes.

HA! I had that same logical problem. There is no concept of global in
Gabas that matches any variation of VB's idea of global. This is the
fault of Microsoft. In the old days there was a concept of "global",
but then OO came along and Microsoft haven't been able to escape the
problem it created ever since.

You must either pass the object around, as I already mentioned, or you
reference a module's public properties in this way:

mModuleName.PropertyName = "something"

     where PropertyName is declared as a public string, for example.

Let me try and explain by example. Microsoft tell you not to use
inline string literals because they slow both the compiler and the
interpreter down, which is a huge problem for Microsoft because the
interpreter in .NET 2007 is already slower than a wet week. So, too
many years ago to remember, I got into the habit of declaring global
constants for common literals. I have a program here of thousands of
lines of code that does not use a single literal, and it's still slow.
Anyway, to the point:

1) In VB.NET I would declare constants in a single module and in this manner:

    ' Postscript names and values:
    Public Const QUOTESINGLE As String = "'"
    Public Const ASTERISK As String = "*"
    Public Const NUMBERSIGN As String = "#"
    Public Const PERCENT As String = "%"
    Public Const PLUS As String = "+"
    Public Const EQUAL As String = "="
    [...]

In VB, Public is a euphemism for Global, so I could access any simply
constant by using it's name, for example:

  If SomeString = EMPTY then...

2) In Gambas I would declare constants in a single module and in this manner:

    ' Postscript names and values:
    Public Const QUOTESINGLE As String = "'"
    Public Const ASTERISK As String = "*"
    Public Const NUMBERSIGN As String = "#"
    Public Const PERCENT As String = "%"
    Public Const PLUS As String = "+"
    Public Const EQUAL As String = "="
    [...]

Note the distinct lack of difference?

In Gambas, Public is a euphemism for "exposed to view", so I could
access any constant by using the form "module.name", for example:

  If SomeString = mConst.EMPTY then...

All of that may seem really weird to you, but the good thing is,
unlike VB, Gambas forces you to plan your application structure rather
than VB's "just type code as you go" approach. Personally, this is a
really good thing.

If you find any of that that difficult to follow, spare a thought for
me. The uppercase constant names are a fortran 77 convention.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 13:25:07 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:25:07 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange behavior of Items on panel
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2009/12/29 norarg <norarg at ...2311...>:

> (Ubuntu 9.10/Gambas 2.13)

Take this with a bucketful of salt, but from my experience, you're
better of with Gambas 3 and Qt4 on Ubuntu. I use 9.10 x64.

Ubuntu uses GTK+, but Qt is far better. You need to consider
installing Qt4, the latest Gambas 3, and if you do that then you need
to covert your app from GTK to Qt. Depending on what you have done so
far, that may be as simple as a library reference change to Qt4, or it
may mean the creation of a whole new app and lots of copy/paste. Been
there, done that.

I was quite surprised when I moved my app to Qt4 on Ubuntu, it really
did look, "as designed". If "as designed" is what you realy need, then
go Qt4, and forget GTK+.

The point is, IMO, you can only get so far with GTK+, and if you want
better then you need gb3 and Qt4. That becomes an even more important
point when, as I did, you discover that GTK is trying to do things it
was never designed to do.

As an Ubuntu user, I'd be really happy if Benoit trashed GTK support
and only offered Qt support. IMO (again) Qt won the war ages ago.

Yes, there may be heartache ahead, but looking at the gb3/Qt4 app I
have in front of me, which came from VB dotNET 2007, heck, gb3/Qt4 is
sweet.

All that said, you should at least upgrade to 2.18.

Here is the source for 2.18:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gambas/gambas2-2.18.0.tar.bz2?download

Here are the instructions for an Ubuntu 9.10 installation:
http://gambasdoc.org/help/install/ubuntu?view

You can install gb3 side by side with gb2. Just follow the gb3
instructions here:

DAMN!

Benoit! You gotta stop using frames, man. I can't give the customer
the link he needs.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 13:54:18 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:54:18 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
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2009/12/29 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Kadaitcha Man <
> nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...> wrote:

> Thanks for the help.

You're welcome.

> ?I just need to confirm if it is not currently possible
> in gambas3 or am I just doing something wrong?

I love having a choice. It's either you or Gambas that's at fault :0

It's you. You need a different mindset.

I believe I addressed your issue directly in an earlier reply. In VB,
Global is synonymous with Public, but Global really means "drop your
knickers and spread your legs for everyone in Paris. Hell, go the
whole hog! The WORLD!!!!" in VB. In Gambas, Public means "drop your
knickers and spread your legs only to those who ask nicely."

Crude, hey. But that's me.

Perhaps you started with Gambas as I did, having a vital VB app that
had to be moved to Linux asap, and jumped in head first without
checking the depth of the water. Look, I agonised over this stuff. I
went so far as to consider a Qt GUI with a fortran or Pascal back-end,
but I persisted with Gambas and it paid off.

If I were to offer you some genuinely good advice, it would be not be
to try and port the application on the first ball. You need to
experiment, an awful lot, to come to terms with the differences
between Gambas and VB. You need to first see if the GUI is even
remotely reproducible. Then you need to know the difference between
/r/n and crlf and standard line breaks in Linux, and escape
characters. The list never ends. Then, when you think you've got it
all tied down you'll need to convert your local time now into Timbuktu
time now. Even stuff as simple as Drag/Drop is different. Heck, even
Clipboard is different.

However, once the GUI is reproducible, the difference between /r/n and
crlf and a line break in Linux is known, and it's second nature to
convert your local time now into Timbuktu time now, and both Drag/Drop
and Clipboard have been mastered, the rest really is BASIC.

I don't know if the mailing list can cope with a VB to Gambas
conversion thread, but being mindful of the fact that the mailing list
exists so others may learn, you are welcome to email me privately
under the proviso that your conversion experience and mine form part
of a freely available work that benefits other Gambas users.



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec 29 13:43:30 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:43:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
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Kadaitcha Man ha scritto:
> 2009/12/29 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:
>
>   
>> just there seems no way to make it
>> global and accessable across different modules/classes.
>>     
>
> HA! I had that same logical problem. There is no concept of global in
> Gabas that matches any variation of VB's idea of global. This is the
> fault of Microsoft. In the old days there was a concept of "global",
> but then OO came along and Microsoft haven't been able to escape the
> problem it created ever since.
>   
Sorry Kadaitcha,

you are confusing scope with visibility and naming, and all these things 
have nothing to do with OO. It seems that everybody in this list talks 
about OO misunderstanding its true meaning. There can be global 
variables in OO, why not? And they are not so bad, anyway - without 
global variables no programs could run...

"Global" is something during the life of the program, like file 
descriptors or static forms. Dynamic data could be thought as "not 
global", but it is anyway because you must have around something to 
access them - and that "something" is global. I mean - in your main form 
there can be some private variables, but they are "global" because your 
form is alive, and it can not live without its data. When the form 
closes, your application closes. During the life of your program, those 
private variables of the main form are always there, so they are global; 
the gambas interpreter, if not you, always know where they are (well, it 
is not exactly so, but near enough).

Visibility is an attribute that define where your identifiers can be 
seen (and used), but this does not necessarily mean that a global 
variable is public. This is the case of private variables in static 
modules: they are global, but invisible outside their defining class. 
There are other visibility attributes not used in gambas, like published 
or protected.
The visibility of a variable can not go out of its scope, of course. So 
a local variable is not global, and can not be public. The scope defines 
the field of existence of a variable, and its visibility attribute can 
restrict its visibility, not its scope; and the visibility attribute can 
not expand the variable scope (or, better, it could: but it would be a 
serious compiler glitch...). Moreover, in other languages you can define 
static local variables, which are global but visible only inside a 
function: a global variable with a very restricted visibility...

Naming is still another issue. Whether a global variable can be accessed 
by "MyGlobalVar" or "MyModule.MyGlobalVar", it is still the same thing: 
that variable is both global and public. Probably the second mechanism 
is better in a modern IDE with automatic completion: it is handy and 
well ordered, but other languages have statements like Import which can 
be used to abbreviate such things. Sometimes I get tired of typing 
blablabla.x1, blablabla.x2 and so on, where a simple "x1" and "x2" would 
signify the same thing.

I don't want to talk about M$ and VB, but I can say something about 
gambas. With great simplicity (sometimes too much simplicity) it brings 
OO programming and good program organization; but this does not mean 
that the gambas way is the only correct one.

To conclude, gambas has global variables (and subroutines); these 
identifiers can be public or private, and you must access them always 
prepending the module name where they are defined. This is a minor 
limitation/simplification, and I can live with it.

Keep in mind the differences between modules, classes, and static classes.

Regards,
Doriano

> You must either pass the object around, as I already mentioned, or you
> reference a module's public properties in this way:
>
> mModuleName.PropertyName = "something"
>
>      where PropertyName is declared as a public string, for example.
>
> Let me try and explain by example. Microsoft tell you not to use
> inline string literals because they slow both the compiler and the
> interpreter down, which is a huge problem for Microsoft because the
> interpreter in .NET 2007 is already slower than a wet week. So, too
> many years ago to remember, I got into the habit of declaring global
> constants for common literals. I have a program here of thousands of
> lines of code that does not use a single literal, and it's still slow.
> Anyway, to the point:
>
> 1) In VB.NET I would declare constants in a single module and in this manner:
>
>     ' Postscript names and values:
>     Public Const QUOTESINGLE As String = "'"
>     Public Const ASTERISK As String = "*"
>     Public Const NUMBERSIGN As String = "#"
>     Public Const PERCENT As String = "%"
>     Public Const PLUS As String = "+"
>     Public Const EQUAL As String = "="
>     [...]
>
> In VB, Public is a euphemism for Global, so I could access any simply
> constant by using it's name, for example:
>
>   If SomeString = EMPTY then...
>
> 2) In Gambas I would declare constants in a single module and in this manner:
>
>     ' Postscript names and values:
>     Public Const QUOTESINGLE As String = "'"
>     Public Const ASTERISK As String = "*"
>     Public Const NUMBERSIGN As String = "#"
>     Public Const PERCENT As String = "%"
>     Public Const PLUS As String = "+"
>     Public Const EQUAL As String = "="
>     [...]
>
> Note the distinct lack of difference?
>
> In Gambas, Public is a euphemism for "exposed to view", so I could
> access any constant by using the form "module.name", for example:
>
>   If SomeString = mConst.EMPTY then...
>
> All of that may seem really weird to you, but the good thing is,
> unlike VB, Gambas forces you to plan your application structure rather
> than VB's "just type code as you go" approach. Personally, this is a
> really good thing.
>
> If you find any of that that difficult to follow, spare a thought for
> me. The uppercase constant names are a fortran 77 convention.
>   



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 14:12:12 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:12:12 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
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Doriano Blengino wrote:
> Kadaitcha Man ha scritto:
>> 2009/12/29 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:
>>
>>
>>> just there seems no way to make it
>>> global and accessable across different modules/classes.
>>>
>>
>> HA! I had that same logical problem. There is no concept of global in
>> Gabas that matches any variation of VB's idea of global. This is the
>> fault of Microsoft. In the old days there was a concept of "global",
>> but then OO came along and Microsoft haven't been able to escape the
>> problem it created ever since.
>>
> Sorry Kadaitcha,
>
> you are confusing scope with visibility and naming, and all these
> things have nothing to do with OO. It seems that everybody in this
> list talks about OO misunderstanding its true meaning. There can be
> global
> variables in OO, why not? And they are not so bad, anyway - without
> global variables no programs could run...

No confusion. As an ex-VB programmer, I put it in the best way I could that 
would be understood by the OP, alsa a VB programmer learning Gambas, so it 
appears.

> "Global" is something during the life of the program, like file
> descriptors or static forms.

I hope you don't mind. I fell asleep and accidentally snipped everything 
else. 




From dr.diesel at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 14:15:15 2009
From: dr.diesel at ...626... (Dr. Diesel)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:15:15 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
In-Reply-To: <c811bd7b0912290454u289dc30eh47344d6d14880c0d@...627...>
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	<6324a42a0912280314gfe74f08l470d17d73ce0ab3@...627...>
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	<c811bd7b0912290223u22dd5b9cwec4a92f58735cc0f@...627...>
	<2a28d2ab0912290240h2b5eaa87j4caec70b3c950188@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912290454u289dc30eh47344d6d14880c0d@...627...>
Message-ID: <2a28d2ab0912290515x748492d5r3c177288d7eb0b70@...627...>

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Kadaitcha Man <
nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...> wrote:

> 2009/12/29 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Kadaitcha Man <
> > nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the help.
>
> You're welcome.


And thanks again!

I personally think gambas is awesome!  This is a new app and you/and others
have helped me make sure I start off in the right direction!



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From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 14:23:03 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:23:03 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
References: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>	<6324a42a0912280314gfe74f08l470d17d73ce0ab3@...627...>	<2a28d2ab0912281302l3413ef18k296f0b4b9d4cbf4f@...627...><c811bd7b0912290306u69f8569bo3058a07a4f6d0ee4@...627...>
	<4B39F972.8080700@...1909...>
Message-ID: <3D3BF05EFA7E494F9E30D98948F0D530@...2330...>

Doriano Blengino wrote:

> without global variables no programs could run...

Counterfactual. Fallacious. False. In error. Inaccurate. Inexact. 
Misconstrued. Misguided. Mistaken. Not right. Untrue. Incorrect. Erroneous. 
False. Way off. Wide of the mark. Absurd. Groundless Incongruous. Incorrect. 
Preposterous, Self-contradictory. Sophistic. Unproved. Unscientific. Without 
basis.

PS: And also wrong. 




From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 14:26:25 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:26:25 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
In-Reply-To: <2a28d2ab0912290515x748492d5r3c177288d7eb0b70@...627...>
References: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>
	<6324a42a0912280314gfe74f08l470d17d73ce0ab3@...627...>
	<2a28d2ab0912281302l3413ef18k296f0b4b9d4cbf4f@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912290223u22dd5b9cwec4a92f58735cc0f@...627...>
	<2a28d2ab0912290240h2b5eaa87j4caec70b3c950188@...627...>
	<c811bd7b0912290454u289dc30eh47344d6d14880c0d@...627...>
	<2a28d2ab0912290515x748492d5r3c177288d7eb0b70@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912290526pcd727b7le5ab285ed2367a7b@...627...>

2009/12/30 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Kadaitcha Man <
> nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...> wrote:
>
>> 2009/12/29 Dr. Diesel <dr.diesel at ...626...>:
>> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Kadaitcha Man <
>> > nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for the help.
>>
>> You're welcome.
>
>
> And thanks again!
>
> I personally think gambas is awesome! ?This is a new app and you/and others
> have helped me make sure I start off in the right direction!

Now that's the kind of reply I like. Please, do not, whatever you do,
tell anyone, but I also think the same about Gambas.



From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 15:56:22 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:56:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  Weird, form width alway return as 640
Message-ID: <26955482.post@...1379...>


Hi all
i m experimenting with the HelloWorld project and i m confused, pls tell me
what is wrong here. Thanking you all in advance

This is what i have added to the code

PUBLIC SUB _new()

END

PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
DEBUG Form.width
END

PUBLIC SUB Button1_Click()

  DEBUG Form.width 

END

When i run the project, debug show this
FMain.Form_Open.8: 640

I then resize the window and on clicking the button 1, debug show this
FMain.Form_Open.8: 640
FMain.Button1_Click.13: 640

So, my question is how come the width is still showing 640 when the width
have increased.

Any idea pls ppls?

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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec 29 16:13:53 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:13:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Weird, form width alway return as 640
In-Reply-To: <26955482.post@...1379...>
References: <26955482.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <4B3A1CB1.5040000@...1909...>

cwyong1 ha scritto:
> Hi all
> i m experimenting with the HelloWorld project and i m confused, pls tell me
> what is wrong here. Thanking you all in advance
>
> This is what i have added to the code
>
> PUBLIC SUB _new()
>
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
> DEBUG Form.width
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB Button1_Click()
>
>   DEBUG Form.width 
>
> END
>
> When i run the project, debug show this
> FMain.Form_Open.8: 640
>
> I then resize the window and on clicking the button 1, debug show this
> FMain.Form_Open.8: 640
> FMain.Button1_Click.13: 640
>
> So, my question is how come the width is still showing 640 when the width
> have increased.
>
>   
Perhaps you should use "FMain.width", or "ME.Width" and not "Form.width".

"Form" is not an instance of a class, but a class name. I don't know 
what gambas does in this case (it should give a compilation error, I 
suppose; what is the sense of querying a field of a non-instantiated 
class?).

Regards,
Doriano





From gambas at ...1...  Tue Dec 29 17:05:46 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:05:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Weird, form width alway return as 640
In-Reply-To: <4B3A1CB1.5040000@...1909...>
References: <26955482.post@...1379...> <4B3A1CB1.5040000@...1909...>
Message-ID: <200912291705.46931.gambas@...1...>

> cwyong1 ha scritto:
> > Hi all
> > i m experimenting with the HelloWorld project and i m confused, pls tell
> > me what is wrong here. Thanking you all in advance
> >
> > This is what i have added to the code
> >
> > PUBLIC SUB _new()
> >
> > END
> >
> > PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
> > DEBUG Form.width
> > END
> >
> > PUBLIC SUB Button1_Click()
> >
> >   DEBUG Form.width
> >
> > END
> >
> > When i run the project, debug show this
> > FMain.Form_Open.8: 640
> >
> > I then resize the window and on clicking the button 1, debug show this
> > FMain.Form_Open.8: 640
> > FMain.Button1_Click.13: 640
> >
> > So, my question is how come the width is still showing 640 when the width
> > have increased.
> 
> Perhaps you should use "FMain.width", or "ME.Width" and not "Form.width".
> 
> "Form" is not an instance of a class, but a class name. I don't know
> what gambas does in this case (it should give a compilation error, I
> suppose; what is the sense of querying a field of a non-instantiated
> class?).
> 
> Regards,
> Doriano
> 

Form is "auto-instanciable", so by querying Form.Width, you are querying the 
width of an internal automatically created Form object.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 17:57:07 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:57:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Weird, form width alway return as 640
In-Reply-To: <4B3A1CB1.5040000@...1909...>
References: <26955482.post@...1379...> <4B3A1CB1.5040000@...1909...>
Message-ID: <26957001.post@...1379...>


Greeting
Thank you for the prompt reply, very sorry for my blunder for i did not
touch VB programming for quite a while now. LOL

i got it to work now, thank you again


Doriano Blengino wrote:
> 
> cwyong1 ha scritto:
>> Hi all
>> i m experimenting with the HelloWorld project and i m confused, pls tell
>> me
>> what is wrong here. Thanking you all in advance
>>
>> This is what i have added to the code
>>
>> PUBLIC SUB _new()
>>
>> END
>>
>> PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
>> DEBUG Form.width
>> END
>>
>> PUBLIC SUB Button1_Click()
>>
>>   DEBUG Form.width 
>>
>> END
>>
>> When i run the project, debug show this
>> FMain.Form_Open.8: 640
>>
>> I then resize the window and on clicking the button 1, debug show this
>> FMain.Form_Open.8: 640
>> FMain.Button1_Click.13: 640
>>
>> So, my question is how come the width is still showing 640 when the width
>> have increased.
>>
>>   
> Perhaps you should use "FMain.width", or "ME.Width" and not "Form.width".
> 
> "Form" is not an instance of a class, but a class name. I don't know 
> what gambas does in this case (it should give a compilation error, I 
> suppose; what is the sense of querying a field of a non-instantiated 
> class?).
> 
> Regards,
> Doriano
> 
> 
> 
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From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 18:01:38 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:01:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  Not sure about what type of project to use,
 pls advise
Message-ID: <26957051.post@...1379...>


Hi
i am thinking of writing an financial system but am confused, should i go
for Graphical Application of QT or GTK+ Graphical Application

Thank
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From wdahn at ...1000...  Tue Dec 29 13:25:17 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:25:17 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Type of Variables possible?
In-Reply-To: <2a28d2ab0912290210t6c655829vf47706fcd7cb57a4@...627...>
References: <2a28d2ab0912271720he9c0dffwadad6abd35e38eab@...627...>	<6324a42a0912280314gfe74f08l470d17d73ce0ab3@...627...>	<2a28d2ab0912281302l3413ef18k296f0b4b9d4cbf4f@...627...>	<26951829.post@...1379...>
	<2a28d2ab0912290210t6c655829vf47706fcd7cb57a4@...627...>
Message-ID: <4B39F52D.9030706@...1000...>

On 29/12/09 18:10, Dr. Diesel wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:18 AM, charlesg <charles at ...1784...>wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi
>>
>> Project, Options, "Module symbols are public by default"=yes ?
>>
>> rgds
>>
>> Thank you, but I must still be confused.  Please see the following example:
>>     
> I have the following in my startup class/form:
>
> Public IOvariables1 As New IOvariables
>
> Then, in my IOvariables.class
>
> Public DriveWheelLeft As Integer = 1
> Public DriveWheelRight As Integer = 2
> Public HeadLR As Integer = 90
> Public HeadUD As Integer = 90
> Public IRLeft As Integer = 0
>
> If I try and use IOvariables1 in a separate module, I receive an unknown
> identifier error?
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Many thanks
>
>
>
>   
does
Print IOvariables1.HeadLR
not print 90?

Regards,
Werner




From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Tue Dec 29 18:17:28 2009
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:17:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Not sure about what type of project to use,
 pls advise
In-Reply-To: <26957051.post@...1379...>
References: <26957051.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <4B3A39A8.9080902@...1909...>

cwyong1 ha scritto:
> Hi
> i am thinking of writing an financial system but am confused, should i go
> for Graphical Application of QT or GTK+ Graphical Application
>
> Thank
>   
Hmm, good question.

GTK support in gambas is incomplete if compared to QT - especially the 
printer interface which works well in QT and it seems to lack in GTK. 
There are other widgets missing in GTK, and probably more quirks.

Being your a financial program, I would go with QT.

Anyway, you can change the graphic back-end without touching a single 
line of code, if you plan with care. Once your project has been created, 
you can go in the Project/Components tab and substitute QT with GTK. You 
can also use the switcher component instead: this component uses QT if 
running in a KDE environment, otherwise GTK. This would render the 
application more portable. So start your project with QT and, at times, 
try to switch to GTK forth and back (especially when adding complex 
widgets).

Regards,
Doriano



From wdahn at ...1000...  Tue Dec 29 18:19:34 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:19:34 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Not sure about what type of project to use,
 pls advise
In-Reply-To: <26957051.post@...1379...>
References: <26957051.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <4B3A3A26.4090007@...1000...>

On 30/12/09 01:01, cwyong1 wrote:
> Hi
> i am thinking of writing an financial system but am confused, should i go
> for Graphical Application of QT or GTK+ Graphical Application
>
> Thank
>   
Surely you will find people advocating both sides.
My personal preference is Qt as it is more feature complete and congruent.

Some other thoughts that crossed my mind (might be irrelevant):

-- There seems to be a financial accounting system written in Gambas,
status unknown that might have useful bits
-- There was a discussion on this mailing list on how to represent
accounting numbers with Gambas.




From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 19:25:22 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:25:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  Menu bar height?
Message-ID: <26958083.post@...1379...>


Hi
Sorry for asking so many question but i would be thankful if you ppls can
tell me how to find it out?
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From math.eber at ...221...  Tue Dec 29 21:14:09 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:14:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 svn versions 2533-2541 won't install
Message-ID: <4B3A6311.2060405@...221...>

on OpenSuSe 11.0
kernel 2.6.25.20
libtool 1.5.26

I tried some svn versions with ./reconf-all as user with the result:
Remember to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.ac'.
You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal.
autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
...
autom4te: cannot open autom4te.cache/requests: no rights
aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1

"no rights" even if I set the rights for the user.

Next I tried ./reconf-all as root and got lots of messages like:
...
gbc/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
gbc/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
gbc/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
gbc/Makefile.am:5:   If `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' is in `configure.ac', make sure
gbc/Makefile.am:5:   its definition is in aclocal's search path.
gbx/Makefile.am:5: library used but `RANLIB' is undefined
gbx/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `RANLIB' is to add `AC_PROG_RANLIB'
gbx/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `autoconf' again.
...
finally:
autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1

What's wrong here?
A few months ago, I installed Gambas3 (where to find the version?) without any
problems.

Thanks for any hints.
Matti



From lordheavym at ...626...  Tue Dec 29 21:41:47 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:41:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 svn versions 2533-2541 won't install
In-Reply-To: <4B3A6311.2060405@...221...>
References: <4B3A6311.2060405@...221...>
Message-ID: <200912292141.47563.lordheavym@...626...>

Le mardi 29 d?cembre 2009 21:14:09, Matti a ?crit :
> on OpenSuSe 11.0
> kernel 2.6.25.20
> libtool 1.5.26
> 
> I tried some svn versions with ./reconf-all as user with the result:
> Remember to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.ac'.
> You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal.
> autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
> autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
> ...
> autom4te: cannot open autom4te.cache/requests: no rights
> aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
> 
> "no rights" even if I set the rights for the user.
> 
> Next I tried ./reconf-all as root and got lots of messages like:
> ...
> gbc/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> gbc/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
>  `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' gbc/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal'
>  and `autoconf' again. gbc/Makefile.am:5:   If `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' is in
>  `configure.ac', make sure gbc/Makefile.am:5:   its definition is in
>  aclocal's search path.
> gbx/Makefile.am:5: library used but `RANLIB' is undefined
> gbx/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `RANLIB' is to add
>  `AC_PROG_RANLIB' gbx/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `autoconf'
>  again.
> ...
> finally:
> autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
> 
> What's wrong here?
> A few months ago, I installed Gambas3 (where to find the version?) without
>  any problems.
> 
> Thanks for any hints.
> Matti
> 

Now gambas3 need libtool 2.X versions to build configure scripts. There is two 
possibilities (at least), install libtool 2.x, or have access to a computer 
with libtool 2.x just to run reconf-all script, all other steps 
(configure/make/..) should work in your computer.

Installing a minimal distro with appropriate tools in a chroot should be 
enough (but not tested).

++
 



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Tue Dec 29 21:44:10 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:44:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 svn versions 2533-2541 won't install
In-Reply-To: <4B3A6311.2060405@...221...>
References: <4B3A6311.2060405@...221...>
Message-ID: <1262119450.6354.11.camel@...40...>

Am Dienstag, den 29.12.2009, 21:14 +0100 schrieb Matti:
> on OpenSuSe 11.0
> kernel 2.6.25.20
> libtool 1.5.26
> 
> I tried some svn versions with ./reconf-all as user with the result:
> Remember to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.ac'.
> You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal.
> autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
> autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
> ...
> autom4te: cannot open autom4te.cache/requests: no rights
> aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
> 
> "no rights" even if I set the rights for the user.
> 
> Next I tried ./reconf-all as root and got lots of messages like:
> ...
> gbc/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> gbc/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> gbc/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.
> gbc/Makefile.am:5:   If `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' is in `configure.ac', make sure
> gbc/Makefile.am:5:   its definition is in aclocal's search path.
> gbx/Makefile.am:5: library used but `RANLIB' is undefined
> gbx/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `RANLIB' is to add `AC_PROG_RANLIB'
> gbx/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `autoconf' again.
> ...
> finally:
> autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
> 
> What's wrong here?
> A few months ago, I installed Gambas3 (where to find the version?) without any
> problems.
> 
> Thanks for any hints.
> Matti

Salut Matti,

sent you my two scripts for making gambas3.
Copy them into a dir
, make them executable
, edit update30 
	set TARGET to your Path 
	set SVNREV=" -r <Value>" to a value where it worked for you 
			(you have to find out) 
if you can't use sudo to became root, you have also make changes in
svnMake


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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Dec 29 21:44:39 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:44:39 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 svn versions 2533-2541 won't install
In-Reply-To: <4B3A6311.2060405@...221...>
References: <4B3A6311.2060405@...221...>
Message-ID: <200912292144.39319.gambas@...1...>

> on OpenSuSe 11.0
> kernel 2.6.25.20
> libtool 1.5.26
> 
> I tried some svn versions with ./reconf-all as user with the result:
> Remember to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.ac'.
> You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal.
> autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
> autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
> ...
> autom4te: cannot open autom4te.cache/requests: no rights
> aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
> 
> "no rights" even if I set the rights for the user.
> 
> Next I tried ./reconf-all as root and got lots of messages like:
> ...
> gbc/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> gbc/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
>  `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' gbc/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal'
>  and `autoconf' again. gbc/Makefile.am:5:   If `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' is in
>  `configure.ac', make sure gbc/Makefile.am:5:   its definition is in
>  aclocal's search path.
> gbx/Makefile.am:5: library used but `RANLIB' is undefined
> gbx/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `RANLIB' is to add
>  `AC_PROG_RANLIB' gbx/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `autoconf'
>  again.
> ...
> finally:
> autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
> 
> What's wrong here?
> A few months ago, I installed Gambas3 (where to find the version?) without
>  any problems.
> 
> Thanks for any hints.
> Matti
> 

Did you try to checkout everything from scratch?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Dec 29 21:50:11 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:50:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange event in a ComboBox
In-Reply-To: <9C4882CA-6D24-419E-A51B-955B6F6A4147@...1896...>
References: <9C4882CA-6D24-419E-A51B-955B6F6A4147@...1896...>
Message-ID: <200912292150.11241.gambas@...1...>

> Benoit,
> 
> I'm following my project and in a ComboBox I found a strange event.
> 
> On Gambas v2.18 on Fedora11.
> 
> I joined a list a data in this ComboxBox manually by the IDE and when
> I add the word 'or', 'OR', '-or-', etc... in this list,  the project can't
>  start because the IDE add at the end of the line in the Form definition a
>  wrong ')'.
> 
> If I remove the line with the 'or' word, all it's ok.
> 
> It's not really important for me, just to inform you.
> 
> 
> Olivier Cruilles
> Mail: linuxos at ...1896...
> 

I can't reproduce what you describe: please a send a project that shows the 
bug.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From linuxos at ...1896...  Tue Dec 29 22:15:11 2009
From: linuxos at ...1896... (Olivier Cruilles)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:15:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange event in a ComboBox
In-Reply-To: <200912292150.11241.gambas@...1...>
References: <9C4882CA-6D24-419E-A51B-955B6F6A4147@...1896...>
	<200912292150.11241.gambas@...1...>
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Le 29 d?c. 2009 ? 21:50, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :

>> Benoit,
>> 
>> I'm following my project and in a ComboBox I found a strange event.
>> 
>> On Gambas v2.18 on Fedora11.
>> 
>> I joined a list a data in this ComboxBox manually by the IDE and when
>> I add the word 'or', 'OR', '-or-', etc... in this list,  the project can't
>> start because the IDE add at the end of the line in the Form definition a
>> wrong ')'.
>> 
>> If I remove the line with the 'or' word, all it's ok.
>> 
>> It's not really important for me, just to inform you.
>> 
>> 
>> Olivier Cruilles
>> Mail: linuxos at ...1896...
>> 
> 
> I can't reproduce what you describe: please a send a project that shows the 
> bug.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
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From math.eber at ...221...  Tue Dec 29 22:43:26 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:43:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 svn versions 2533-2541 won't install
In-Reply-To: <200912292144.39319.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B3A6311.2060405@...221...>
	<200912292144.39319.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B3A77FE.3070706@...221...>

Thanks for all your quick answers.

@ Laurent:
Will try to get libtool 2.x.
OpenSuSe doesn't have this version in the repos.

@ Charlie:
Will try your scripts.
But it can't be done before 2010/01/8.

@ Beno?t:
What do you mean by "checkout everything from scratch"?
I'm a newbie to all of that.
If you mean "delete the folder ... /gambas3/trunk" and start again with svn,
yes, I did.



Beno?t Minisini schrieb:
>> on OpenSuSe 11.0
>> kernel 2.6.25.20
>> libtool 1.5.26 
>>
>> I tried some svn versions with ./reconf-all as user with the result:
>> Remember to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.ac'.
>> You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal.
>> autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
>> autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
>> ...
>> autom4te: cannot open autom4te.cache/requests: no rights
>> aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
>> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
>>
>> "no rights" even if I set the rights for the user.
>>
>> Next I tried ./reconf-all as root and got lots of messages like:
>> ...
>> gbc/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
>> gbc/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
>>  `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' gbc/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal'
>>  and `autoconf' again. gbc/Makefile.am:5:   If `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' is in
>>  `configure.ac', make sure gbc/Makefile.am:5:   its definition is in
>>  aclocal's search path.
>> gbx/Makefile.am:5: library used but `RANLIB' is undefined
>> gbx/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `RANLIB' is to add
>>  `AC_PROG_RANLIB' gbx/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `autoconf'
>>  again.
>> ...
>> finally:
>> autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
>>
>> What's wrong here?
>> A few months ago, I installed Gambas3 (where to find the version?) without
>>  any problems.
>>
>> Thanks for any hints.
>> Matti
>>
> 
> Did you try to checkout everything from scratch?
> 



From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec 30 09:27:50 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:27:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambasdoc issues
Message-ID: <4B3B0F06.20800@...1740...>


Ok.

I know there wasn't a lot of documentation to begin with, but it's 
become even worse, the docs of gb.net.curl are gone.

And they point to the wrong version too.

http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.net.curl?v3
Gives empty 2.0

http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.net.curl?v2
Gives empty 3.0

Thats not funny!

Regards,
Ron.



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Wed Dec 30 11:34:05 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:34:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 svn versions 2533-2541 won't install
In-Reply-To: <4B3A77FE.3070706@...221...>
References: <4B3A6311.2060405@...221...>
	<200912292144.39319.gambas@...1...>
	<4B3A77FE.3070706@...221...>
Message-ID: <1262169245.6631.7.camel@...40...>

Am Dienstag, den 29.12.2009, 22:43 +0100 schrieb Matti:
> Thanks for all your quick answers.
> 
> @ Laurent:
> Will try to get libtool 2.x.
> OpenSuSe doesn't have this version in the repos.
> 
> @ Charlie:
> Will try your scripts.
> But it can't be done before 2010/01/8.
> 
> @ Beno?t:
> What do you mean by "checkout everything from scratch"?
> I'm a newbie to all of that.
> If you mean "delete the folder ... /gambas3/trunk" and start again with svn,
> yes, I did.
> 
> 
> 
> Beno?t Minisini schrieb:
> >> on OpenSuSe 11.0
> >> kernel 2.6.25.20
> >> libtool 1.5.26 
> >>
> >> I tried some svn versions with ./reconf-all as user with the result:
> >> Remember to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.ac'.
> >> You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal.
> >> autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
> >> autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
> >> ...
> >> autom4te: cannot open autom4te.cache/requests: no rights
> >> aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
> >> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
> >>
> >> "no rights" even if I set the rights for the user.
> >>
> >> Next I tried ./reconf-all as root and got lots of messages like:
> >> ...
> >> gbc/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> >> gbc/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> >>  `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' gbc/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `aclocal'
> >>  and `autoconf' again. gbc/Makefile.am:5:   If `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' is in
> >>  `configure.ac', make sure gbc/Makefile.am:5:   its definition is in
> >>  aclocal's search path.
> >> gbx/Makefile.am:5: library used but `RANLIB' is undefined
> >> gbx/Makefile.am:5:   The usual way to define `RANLIB' is to add
> >>  `AC_PROG_RANLIB' gbx/Makefile.am:5:   to `configure.ac' and run `autoconf'
> >>  again.
> >> ...
> >> finally:
> >> autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
> >>
> >> What's wrong here?
> >> A few months ago, I installed Gambas3 (where to find the version?) without
> >>  any problems.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any hints.
> >> Matti
> >>
> > 
> > Did you try to checkout everything from scratch?

Salut Matti,

from scratch here means, "into a new Directory" without old 'things'
left.

My script asks you, and if you answer 'y'es the old dir is deleted,
before starting the checkout .



-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Wed Dec 30 14:14:03 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:14:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  IsBlank, version 2.8,
 is this intended or is this a bug, WEIRD
Message-ID: <26967348.post@...1379...>


Hi
I got me a login screen with two textbox, username and password 

PUBLIC SUB btnOK_Click()

  WITH txtUserName
    DEBUG IsBlank(txtUserName.TEXT)
    DEBUG IsBlank(txtPassword.TEXT)
    DEBUG txtPassword.TEXT 
    IF IsBlank(.text) = FALSE THEN 
      IF IsBlank(txtPassword.text) = FALSE THEN    
        Module1.pvLoginStatus = TRUE  
        ME.Close(TRUE)
      ELSE 
        WITH txtPassword
          Message("Pls enter your password", "OK")        
          .SelectAll
          .setFocus
        END WITH
      ENDIF
    ELSE 
      Message("Pls enter a user name ", "OK")    
      .SelectAll
      .SetFocus
    ENDIF
  END WITH
  
END

If i entered username and then click on the ok button, isblank will not
treat password textbox as blank but if i at the pasword textbox purposely
press the space bar then click the ok button then isblank will be true and
lastly, my final test is after entering username then at the password
textbox press the tab key, isblank check on password textbox will also
returned false, How come need to purposely press the space bar at the
pasword textbox in order for isblank to work ppl?

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From dosida at ...626...  Wed Dec 30 16:40:18 2009
From: dosida at ...626... (Dimitris Anogiatis)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:40:18 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambasdoc issues
In-Reply-To: <4B3B0F06.20800@...1740...>
References: <4B3B0F06.20800@...1740...>
Message-ID: <82bffccf0912300740v4a5aeef7hf186385fc4eb821f@...627...>

Ron,

It works fine for me...

could you provide some visual feedback
so we can see what gambasdoc does on
your browser?

Regards, Merry Christmas (belated) and Happy New Year
Dimitris

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Ron <ron at ...1740...> wrote:

>
> Ok.
>
> I know there wasn't a lot of documentation to begin with, but it's
> become even worse, the docs of gb.net.curl are gone.
>
> And they point to the wrong version too.
>
> http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.net.curl?v3
> Gives empty 2.0
>
> http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.net.curl?v2
> Gives empty 3.0
>
> Thats not funny!
>
> Regards,
> Ron.
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 30 16:43:22 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:43:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambasdoc issues
In-Reply-To: <82bffccf0912300740v4a5aeef7hf186385fc4eb821f@...627...>
References: <4B3B0F06.20800@...1740...>
	<82bffccf0912300740v4a5aeef7hf186385fc4eb821f@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912301643.23039.gambas@...1...>

> Ron,
> 
> It works fine for me...
> 
> could you provide some visual feedback
> so we can see what gambasdoc does on
> your browser?
> 
> Regards, Merry Christmas (belated) and Happy New Year
> Dimitris
> 

I fixed it by editing and saving the page again. No idea why the class list 
disappeared on some component pages...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Dec 30 19:50:56 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:50:56 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] installation instructions for OpenSUSE
Message-ID: <4B3BA110.1020905@...221...>

Just saw the docs page
http://gambasdoc.org/help/install/opensuse?view

At least for OpenSUSE 11.0, these instructions are obsolet.
I installed Gambas from the SUSE YaST package (think it was 2.14) before reading
this and did some updates (right now 2.18). Everything works flawlessly.

Matti



From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Dec 30 20:44:30 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:44:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
Message-ID: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>

Trying to find the version (build) number of my running installation of Gambas3.
Thought this must be easy, but just can't find it.
- Where do I have to look?
- Wouldn't it be useful to give this information in "? - About" (instead of "2.99")?

Matti



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 30 20:52:57 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:52:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] installation instructions for OpenSUSE
In-Reply-To: <4B3BA110.1020905@...221...>
References: <4B3BA110.1020905@...221...>
Message-ID: <200912302052.57356.gambas@...1...>

> Just saw the docs page
> http://gambasdoc.org/help/install/opensuse?view
> 
> At least for OpenSUSE 11.0, these instructions are obsolet.
> I installed Gambas from the SUSE YaST package (think it was 2.14) before
>  reading this and did some updates (right now 2.18). Everything works
>  flawlessly.
> 
> Matti
> 

In the past, Gambas binary packages made by OpenSUSE were falsely build. 
Everything will work, except that binary packages made by the IDE won't work 
with them.

I don't know if they are correct now, I guess not...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 30 20:53:41 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:53:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
Message-ID: <200912302053.41314.gambas@...1...>

> Trying to find the version (build) number of my running installation of
>  Gambas3. Thought this must be easy, but just can't find it.
> - Where do I have to look?
> - Wouldn't it be useful to give this information in "? - About" (instead of
>  "2.99")?
> 
> Matti
> 

Look at the first dialog you see when running the IDE. Or read what "svn 
update" prints if  you run it inside your Gambas source tree.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lordheavym at ...626...  Wed Dec 30 20:54:48 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:54:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
Message-ID: <200912302054.48597.lordheavym@...626...>

Le mercredi 30 d?cembre 2009 20:44:30, Matti a ?crit :
> Trying to find the version (build) number of my running installation of
>  Gambas3. Thought this must be easy, but just can't find it.
> - Where do I have to look?
> - Wouldn't it be useful to give this information in "? - About" (instead of
>  "2.99")?
> 
> Matti
> 

Try svn info in the root of your svn trunk

++



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 30 20:59:11 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:59:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsBlank, version 2.8,
	is this intended or is this a bug, WEIRD
In-Reply-To: <26967348.post@...1379...>
References: <26967348.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <200912302059.11062.gambas@...1...>

> Hi
> I got me a login screen with two textbox, username and password
> 
> PUBLIC SUB btnOK_Click()
> 
>   WITH txtUserName
>     DEBUG IsBlank(txtUserName.TEXT)
>     DEBUG IsBlank(txtPassword.TEXT)
>     DEBUG txtPassword.TEXT
>     IF IsBlank(.text) = FALSE THEN
>       IF IsBlank(txtPassword.text) = FALSE THEN
>         Module1.pvLoginStatus = TRUE
>         ME.Close(TRUE)
>       ELSE
>         WITH txtPassword
>           Message("Pls enter your password", "OK")
>           .SelectAll
>           .setFocus
>         END WITH
>       ENDIF
>     ELSE
>       Message("Pls enter a user name ", "OK")
>       .SelectAll
>       .SetFocus
>     ENDIF
>   END WITH
> 
> END
> 
> If i entered username and then click on the ok button, isblank will not
> treat password textbox as blank but if i at the pasword textbox purposely
> press the space bar then click the ok button then isblank will be true and
> lastly, my final test is after entering username then at the password
> textbox press the tab key, isblank check on password textbox will also
> returned false, How come need to purposely press the space bar at the
> pasword textbox in order for isblank to work ppl?
> 

What you wrote is not really understable... Did you read the documentation of 
IsBlank() on the wiki? I'm not sure this is the function you need.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Dec 30 21:35:53 2009
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:35:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Not sure about what type of project to use,
	pls 	advise
In-Reply-To: <4B3A3A26.4090007@...1000...>
References: <26957051.post@...1379...> <4B3A3A26.4090007@...1000...>
Message-ID: <384d3900912301235s2211ebe9gb722f2fe15ff5731@...627...>

License issues...
I have understand that GTK+ is free, Qt3 is free only for
non-proprietary software,
and Qt4 is free for proprietary software also.

Jussi


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 19:19, Werner <wdahn at ...1000...> wrote:
> On 30/12/09 01:01, cwyong1 wrote:
>> Hi
>> i am thinking of writing an financial system but am confused, should i go
>> for Graphical Application of QT or GTK+ Graphical Application
>>
>> Thank
>>
> Surely you will find people advocating both sides.
> My personal preference is Qt as it is more feature complete and congruent.
>
> Some other thoughts that crossed my mind (might be irrelevant):
>
> -- There seems to be a financial accounting system written in Gambas,
> status unknown that might have useful bits
> -- There was a discussion on this mailing list on how to represent
> accounting numbers with Gambas.
>
>
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From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec 30 20:57:29 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:57:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <200912302053.41314.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
	<200912302053.41314.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <68696c50912301157r2aca6d82mef08871a64690c50@...627...>

'svn info' shows current build without updating

On Dec 30, 2009 8:54 PM, "Beno?t Minisini" <gambas at ...1...>
wrote:

> Trying to find the version (build) number of my running installation of >
Gambas3. Thought this m...
Look at the first dialog you see when running the IDE. Or read what "svn
update" prints if  you run it inside your Gambas source tree.

Regards,

--
Beno?t Minisini

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From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Dec 30 22:11:21 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:11:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] installation instructions for OpenSUSE
In-Reply-To: <200912302052.57356.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B3BA110.1020905@...221...>
	<200912302052.57356.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B3BC1F9.10605@...221...>

ok, I would like to test that, bt that's beyond my competence...


Beno?t Minisini schrieb:
>> Just saw the docs page
>> http://gambasdoc.org/help/install/opensuse?view
>>
>> At least for OpenSUSE 11.0, these instructions are obsolet.
>> I installed Gambas from the SUSE YaST package (think it was 2.14) before
>>  reading this and did some updates (right now 2.18). Everything works
>>  flawlessly.
>>
>> Matti
>>
> 
> In the past, Gambas binary packages made by OpenSUSE were falsely build. 
> Everything will work, except that binary packages made by the IDE won't work 
> with them.
> 
> I don't know if they are correct now, I guess not...
> 



From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Dec 30 22:16:37 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:16:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <200912302053.41314.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
	<200912302053.41314.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B3BC335.3020805@...221...>

In the first dialog, I see only "2.99".

Beno?t Minisini schrieb:
>> Trying to find the version (build) number of my running installation of
>>  Gambas3. Thought this must be easy, but just can't find it.
>> - Where do I have to look?
>> - Wouldn't it be useful to give this information in "? - About" (instead of
>>  "2.99")?
>>
>> Matti
>>
> 
> Look at the first dialog you see when running the IDE. Or read what "svn 
> update" prints if  you run it inside your Gambas source tree.
> 
> Regards,
> 



From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Dec 30 22:24:45 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:24:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <200912302054.48597.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
	<200912302054.48597.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <4B3BC51D.1070602@...221...>

But that's the version I would like to install (doesn't work).
I'd like to know the installed version to use Charlie's script.

Laurent Carlier schrieb:
> Le mercredi 30 d?cembre 2009 20:44:30, Matti a ?crit :
>> Trying to find the version (build) number of my running installation of
>>  Gambas3. Thought this must be easy, but just can't find it.
>> - Where do I have to look?
>> - Wouldn't it be useful to give this information in "? - About" (instead of
>>  "2.99")?
>>
>> Matti
>>
> 
> Try svn info in the root of your svn trunk
> 



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Wed Dec 30 22:25:54 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:25:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <200912302054.48597.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
	<200912302054.48597.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <1262208354.6536.19.camel@...40...>

Am Mittwoch, den 30.12.2009, 20:54 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
> Le mercredi 30 d?cembre 2009 20:44:30, Matti a ?crit :
> > Trying to find the version (build) number of my running installation of
> >  Gambas3. Thought this must be easy, but just can't find it.
> > - Where do I have to look?
> > - Wouldn't it be useful to give this information in "? - About" (instead of
> >  "2.99")?
> > 
> > Matti
> > 
> 
> Try svn info in the root of your svn trunk

Salut,

svn info is only TRUE for his version, if all what has to be done after
'svn update',  had been successful (also). 

He is looking what rev. he had compiled successful.
He has to go to /usr/local/bin and look for the file date/time of
gambas3.gambas. Then going up to the svn repository, to find out what
rev was new at this moment. Or looking in the svn-mailing list for that
moment, to find out the rev. (Perhaps someone knows a better way) 
-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Dec 30 22:43:51 2009
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:43:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <1262208354.6536.19.camel@...40...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>	<200912302054.48597.lordheavym@...626...>
	<1262208354.6536.19.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <4B3BC997.3090105@...221...>

Yes, Charlie, that's it.
I see the date/time of gambas3.gambas.
But I don't know which version is running there.
Isn't there an easier way?


Charlie Reinl schrieb:
> Am Mittwoch, den 30.12.2009, 20:54 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier:
>> Le mercredi 30 d?cembre 2009 20:44:30, Matti a ?crit :
>>> Trying to find the version (build) number of my running installation of
>>>  Gambas3. Thought this must be easy, but just can't find it.
>>> - Where do I have to look?
>>> - Wouldn't it be useful to give this information in "? - About" (instead of
>>>  "2.99")?
>>>
>>> Matti
>>>
>> Try svn info in the root of your svn trunk
> 
> Salut,
> 
> svn info is only TRUE for his version, if all what has to be done after
> 'svn update',  had been successful (also). 
> 
> He is looking what rev. he had compiled successful.
> He has to go to /usr/local/bin and look for the file date/time of
> gambas3.gambas. Then going up to the svn repository, to find out what
> rev was new at this moment. Or looking in the svn-mailing list for that
> moment, to find out the rev. (Perhaps someone knows a better way) 



From ron at ...1740...  Wed Dec 30 22:56:44 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:56:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <68696c50912301355w521818dfv423843c5c2fedb4@...627...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
	<200912302054.48597.lordheavym@...626...>
	<1262208354.6536.19.camel@...40...> <4B3BC997.3090105@...221...>
	<68696c50912301355w521818dfv423843c5c2fedb4@...627...>
Message-ID: <68696c50912301356k7979ae47r2432fd8bb2902389@...627...>

You can get the svn version of that day with the 'svn -d <date>' param if
I'm correct.

On Dec 30, 2009 10:44 PM, "Matti" <math.eber at ...221...> wrote:

Yes, Charlie, that's it.
I see the date/time of gambas3.gambas.
But I don't know which version is running there.
Isn't there an easier way?


Charlie Reinl schrieb:

> Am Mittwoch, den 30.12.2009, 20:54 +0100 schrieb Laurent Carlier: >> Le
mercredi 30 d?cembre 2009 ...

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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 30 22:56:36 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:56:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <4B3BC997.3090105@...221...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...> <1262208354.6536.19.camel@...40...>
	<4B3BC997.3090105@...221...>
Message-ID: <200912302256.36551.gambas@...1...>

> Yes, Charlie, that's it.
> I see the date/time of gambas3.gambas.
> But I don't know which version is running there.
> Isn't there an easier way?
> 

By doing gbx3 -h, you will get the date/time when the interpreter was 
compiled. Then you can look in the subversion commit mailing-list to guess 
which version it is.

Why don't you update to the latest revision?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Wed Dec 30 22:56:47 2009
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:56:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <4B3BC51D.1070602@...221...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
	<200912302054.48597.lordheavym@...626...>
	<4B3BC51D.1070602@...221...>
Message-ID: <1262210207.6536.36.camel@...40...>

Am Mittwoch, den 30.12.2009, 22:24 +0100 schrieb Matti:
> But that's the version I would like to install (doesn't work).
> I'd like to know the installed version to use Charlie's script.
> 
> Laurent Carlier schrieb:
> > Le mercredi 30 d?cembre 2009 20:44:30, Matti a ?crit :
> >> Trying to find the version (build) number of my running installation of
> >>  Gambas3. Thought this must be easy, but just can't find it.
> >> - Where do I have to look?
> >> - Wouldn't it be useful to give this information in "? - About" (instead of
> >>  "2.99")?
> >>
> >> Matti
> >>
> > 
> > Try svn info in the root of your svn trunk
> > 
Hi Matti,

first , I'v to say, you should have a working version of gambas3 and the
IDE for gambas3. Isn't it?

So why you continue to compile newer version, knowing they fail!?

If you need to find the last version which compiles with your system, do
the following :
      
I suppose you have DSL, so ..

by using my script. Go back <last rev.> - 10, till it compiles.
Compile always from scratch  (answer 'Y') !
As it fails as reconf-all so it is not a big lose of time.

If you want closer, add one or two rev versions (forward/backward).

 

-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 30 23:15:20 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:15:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <200912302256.36551.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...> <4B3BC997.3090105@...221...>
	<200912302256.36551.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912302315.20431.gambas@...1...>

> > Yes, Charlie, that's it.
> > I see the date/time of gambas3.gambas.
> > But I don't know which version is running there.
> > Isn't there an easier way?
> 
> By doing gbx3 -h, you will get the date/time when the interpreter was
> compiled. Then you can look in the subversion commit mailing-list to guess
> which version it is.
> 
> Why don't you update to the latest revision?
> 

Oops. Yes, you told that the latest cannot be configured...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Dec 30 23:28:30 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:28:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Anti-aliasing painting
Message-ID: <200912302328.30842.gambas@...1...>

Here is some news from the latest developments in Gambas 3...

There is now a new class, "Paint", that acts like the "Draw" class, but draws 
things with anti-aliasing.

The Paint interface is different from the Draw interface. It is very inspired 
from the Cairo library interface (with some diabolical variations of course).

There is a new example, named "Painting", that will shows you what can be done 
with this new class.

Both gb.qt4 and gb.gtk implement the Paint interface.

At the moment, Paint can draw on Picture, DrawingArea, and Image (this is 
new).

In the future, Paint will draw on Printer (gb.gtk will have print support!), 
and will generate SVG, Postscript and Pdf documents, in both components!

Laurent Carlier has added shader support to the OpenGL components, but I can't 
tell more, I have very few knowledge about that... Maybe he will give us more 
explanations. :-)

You can see that as sort of Mithra / Christmas / Hanouka / A?d / (insert your 
prefered religious or non-religious day there) present.

Enjoy all that, and please report any bug or strangeness as usual.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 00:10:48 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:10:48 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Not sure about what type of project to use,
	pls 	advise
In-Reply-To: <384d3900912301235s2211ebe9gb722f2fe15ff5731@...627...>
References: <26957051.post@...1379...> <4B3A3A26.4090007@...1000...>
	<384d3900912301235s2211ebe9gb722f2fe15ff5731@...627...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912301510u40d93f68i1ec609fa88e3dc7@...627...>

2009/12/31 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>:
> License issues...
> I have understand that GTK+ is free, Qt3 is free only for
> non-proprietary software,
> and Qt4 is free for proprietary software also.

If those are issues that anyone need consider then how can the likes
of ATI and nVidia create control panels for their proprietary drivers?



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 00:18:39 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:18:39 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Where can I find the version number?
In-Reply-To: <200912302053.41314.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B3BAD9E.2010004@...221...>
	<200912302053.41314.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912301518h30cac50ex72c02ec15521ad0a@...627...>

2009/12/31 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:

> Look at the first dialog you see when running the IDE.

Gambas 3 doesn't display a build number on the opening dialog. Having
some easy way of seeing the build number without having to resort to
querying svn would be very helpful for a lot of people.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 00:19:57 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:19:57 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Anti-aliasing painting
In-Reply-To: <200912302328.30842.gambas@...1...>
References: <200912302328.30842.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912301519j54f2e64ft40f363e9784d8251@...627...>

2009/12/31 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:

> In the future, Paint will draw on Printer (gb.gtk will have print support!),
> and will generate SVG, Postscript and Pdf documents, in both components!

Nice.



From lordheavym at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 00:36:57 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:36:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using GLSL in gambas3
Message-ID: <200912310036.57217.lordheavym@...626...>

  To follow the small announcement from benoit, let me present my work on 
gb.opengl component.

A new subset of the gb.opengl component is now in the svn: gb.opengl.glsl.

  As the name let you suggest, the purpose of this component is to let use the 
power of shaders inside your opengl projects (if your card can support them of 
course). There is still missing features but simple shaders can be run (see 
attached project).

  A new dependency is needed for component gb.qt.opengl, gb.qt4.opengl and 
gb.sdl: glew library (see http://glew.sourceforge.net/). Internaly, this 
library will ease the management of openGL extensions. gb.sdl component will 
use this library (some rewrite is needed but not a lot of).

  Documentation is on the way (damn i hate writing docs!) :-p see 
http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.opengl.glsl/gl?v3

Have fun !

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From wdahn at ...1000...  Thu Dec 31 06:50:45 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:50:45 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using GLSL in gambas3
In-Reply-To: <200912310036.57217.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <200912310036.57217.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <4B3C3BB5.4040309@...1000...>

On 31/12/09 07:36, Laurent Carlier wrote:
>   To follow the small announcement from benoit, let me present my work on 
> gb.opengl component.
>
> A new subset of the gb.opengl component is now in the svn: gb.opengl.glsl.
>
>   As the name let you suggest, the purpose of this component is to let use the 
> power of shaders inside your opengl projects (if your card can support them of 
> course). There is still missing features but simple shaders can be run (see 
> attached project).
>
>   A new dependency is needed for component gb.qt.opengl, gb.qt4.opengl and 
> gb.sdl: glew library (see http://glew.sourceforge.net/). Internaly, this 
> library will ease the management of openGL extensions. gb.sdl component will 
> use this library (some rewrite is needed but not a lot of).
>
>   Documentation is on the way (damn i hate writing docs!) :-p see 
> http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.opengl.glsl/gl?v3
>
> Have fun !
>   
That's very good news for me. I'm in the process of learning openGL with
the help of the openGL SuperBible.
Thank you very much and a Happy New Year

Werner




From ron at ...1740...  Thu Dec 31 11:43:28 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:43:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
Message-ID: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...>


Some first experiences building scripts using gbs2

Is it possible to display the errors at end of the output?
If you execute a large script from shell and have a compile error you 
keep on scrolling up to see the error.

Or even better when there is an error on a line, display the script 
source until that line number with the error below it.
Maybe this is difficult because of the way scripting works. And/or 
display line numbers in front of source code lines.

Another thing, there is no way to get the file name of the script from 
within the code.

Application.Args[0] = 
/tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache/75ee02d930493c0fdc45e92c5b297df5

Application.Name =  6dc71006365626c9524efb11972ce2af

Script name in this case was 'callerid.script'

Gambas 2.18.0

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From ron at ...1740...  Thu Dec 31 12:01:35 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:01:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...>
Message-ID: <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>

Ron wrote:
>
> Some first experiences building scripts using gbs2
>
> Is it possible to display the errors at end of the output?
> If you execute a large script from shell and have a compile error you 
> keep on scrolling up to see the error.
>
> Or even better when there is an error on a line, display the script 
> source until that line number with the error below it.
> Maybe this is difficult because of the way scripting works. And/or 
> display line numbers in front of source code lines.
>
> Another thing, there is no way to get the file name of the script from 
> within the code.
>
> Application.Args[0] = 
> /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache/75ee02d930493c0fdc45e92c5b297df5
>
> Application.Name =  6dc71006365626c9524efb11972ce2af
>
> Script name in this case was 'callerid.script'
>

Application.Path is also pointing to the cache/tmp directory instead of 
the real location of the script.
Application.Path = /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache

I begin to see now, why I couldn't use it that easily last time.

If you have to start using things like 'EXEC [ "pwd" ] TO sPwd' to get 
the current dir it doesn't make sense to use a Gambas script.

Regards,
Ron_2nd.




From ron at ...1740...  Thu Dec 31 13:00:16 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:00:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...> <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>
Message-ID: <4B3C9250.1050008@...1740...>

Ron wrote:
> Ron wrote:
>>
>> Some first experiences building scripts using gbs2
>>
>> Is it possible to display the errors at end of the output?
>> If you execute a large script from shell and have a compile error you 
>> keep on scrolling up to see the error.
>>
>> Or even better when there is an error on a line, display the script 
>> source until that line number with the error below it.
>> Maybe this is difficult because of the way scripting works. And/or 
>> display line numbers in front of source code lines.
>>
>> Another thing, there is no way to get the file name of the script 
>> from within the code.
>>
>> Application.Args[0] = 
>> /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache/75ee02d930493c0fdc45e92c5b297df5
>>
>> Application.Name =  6dc71006365626c9524efb11972ce2af
>>
>> Script name in this case was 'callerid.script'
>>
>
> Application.Path is also pointing to the cache/tmp directory instead 
> of the real location of the script.
> Application.Path = /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache
>
> I begin to see now, why I couldn't use it that easily last time.
>
> If you have to start using things like 'EXEC [ "pwd" ] TO sPwd' to get 
> the current dir it doesn't make sense to use a Gambas script.
>
>

If you have this script:
----------------
#! /usr/bin/env gbs2

PUBLIC SUB Main()

END

' a comment
----------------

You get:
----------------
/tmp/gambas.1000/12566/project.tmp/MMain.module:13: 'Main' already declared

' Gambas module file


PUBLIC SUB Main()

END

PUBLIC SUB Main()

' a comment

END
----------------

This is ok:

#! /usr/bin/env gbs2


PUBLIC SUB Main()

' comment

END
----------------
ie comments at the end of a script/outside SUBs are making the compiler 
crazy, and me too until I found out what the problem was. ;-p

Gambas 2.18.0

Regards,
Ron_2nd.








From ron at ...1740...  Thu Dec 31 14:11:42 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:11:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <4B3C9250.1050008@...1740...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...> <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>
	<4B3C9250.1050008@...1740...>
Message-ID: <4B3CA30E.2040809@...1740...>

Ron wrote:
> Ron wrote:
>> Ron wrote:
>>>
>>> Some first experiences building scripts using gbs2
>>>
>>> Is it possible to display the errors at end of the output?
>>> If you execute a large script from shell and have a compile error 
>>> you keep on scrolling up to see the error.
>>>
>>> Or even better when there is an error on a line, display the script 
>>> source until that line number with the error below it.
>>> Maybe this is difficult because of the way scripting works. And/or 
>>> display line numbers in front of source code lines.
>>>
>>> Another thing, there is no way to get the file name of the script 
>>> from within the code.
>>>
>>> Application.Args[0] = 
>>> /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache/75ee02d930493c0fdc45e92c5b297df5
>>>
>>> Application.Name =  6dc71006365626c9524efb11972ce2af
>>>
>>> Script name in this case was 'callerid.script'
>>>
>>
>> Application.Path is also pointing to the cache/tmp directory instead 
>> of the real location of the script.
>> Application.Path = /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache
>>
>> I begin to see now, why I couldn't use it that easily last time.
>>
>> If you have to start using things like 'EXEC [ "pwd" ] TO sPwd' to 
>> get the current dir it doesn't make sense to use a Gambas script.
>>
>>
>
> If you have this script:
> ----------------
> #! /usr/bin/env gbs2
>
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
>
> END
>
> ' a comment
> ----------------
>
> You get:
> ----------------
> /tmp/gambas.1000/12566/project.tmp/MMain.module:13: 'Main' already 
> declared
>
> ' Gambas module file
>
>
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
>
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
>
> ' a comment
>
> END
> ----------------
>
> This is ok:
>
> #! /usr/bin/env gbs2
>
>
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
>
> ' comment
>
> END
> ----------------
> ie comments at the end of a script/outside SUBs are making the 
> compiler crazy, and me too until I found out what the problem was. ;-p
>

If you set Application.Return to a value, the script doesn't return it 
to the shell (it always returns  0)

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 14:16:47 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 00:16:47 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <4B3CA30E.2040809@...1740...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...> <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>
	<4B3C9250.1050008@...1740...> <4B3CA30E.2040809@...1740...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912310516h38b9cab9vc943004a76fca5d7@...627...>

2010/1/1 Ron <ron at ...1740...>:
> Ron wrote:
>> Ron wrote:
>>> Ron wrote:

> If you

You seem to be talking to yourself, Ron. Are you ok?



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 31 14:25:57 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:25:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912311425.57583.gambas@...1...>

> Some first experiences building scripts using gbs2
> 
> Is it possible to display the errors at end of the output?
> If you execute a large script from shell and have a compile error you
> keep on scrolling up to see the error.
> 
> Or even better when there is an error on a line, display the script
> source until that line number with the error below it.
> Maybe this is difficult because of the way scripting works. And/or
> display line numbers in front of source code lines.

The scripter is very hacky: welcome to you, tester! :-)

You can run gbs2 by hand on your script with the "-v" option to get a bit more 
information on what is done. "gbs2 --help" to get all the options.

> 
> Another thing, there is no way to get the file name of the script from
> within the code.
> 
> Application.Args[0] =
> /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache/75ee02d930493c0fdc45e92c5b297df5
> 
> Application.Name =  6dc71006365626c9524efb11972ce2af
> 
> Script name in this case was 'callerid.script'
> 

Yes, this is a problem I don't know how to solve yet. Maybe by making 
Application.Args writable, and changing Application.Args[0] at script startup. 
Alas I can only do that in Gambas 3.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 31 14:31:25 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:31:25 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...> <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912311431.26001.gambas@...1...>

> Ron wrote:
> > Some first experiences building scripts using gbs2
> >
> > Is it possible to display the errors at end of the output?
> > If you execute a large script from shell and have a compile error you
> > keep on scrolling up to see the error.
> >
> > Or even better when there is an error on a line, display the script
> > source until that line number with the error below it.
> > Maybe this is difficult because of the way scripting works. And/or
> > display line numbers in front of source code lines.
> >
> > Another thing, there is no way to get the file name of the script from
> > within the code.
> >
> > Application.Args[0] =
> > /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache/75ee02d930493c0fdc45e92c5b297df5
> >
> > Application.Name =  6dc71006365626c9524efb11972ce2af
> >
> > Script name in this case was 'callerid.script'
> 
> Application.Path is also pointing to the cache/tmp directory instead of
> the real location of the script.
> Application.Path = /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache

Yes, this is logical but annoying. I have no workaround at the moment yet.

> 
> I begin to see now, why I couldn't use it that easily last time.
> 
> If you have to start using things like 'EXEC [ "pwd" ] TO sPwd' to get
> the current dir it doesn't make sense to use a Gambas script.
> 

There is no current directory in Gambas!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 31 14:32:13 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:32:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <4B3CA30E.2040809@...1740...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...> <4B3C9250.1050008@...1740...>
	<4B3CA30E.2040809@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912311432.13101.gambas@...1...>

> 
> If you set Application.Return to a value, the script doesn't return it
> to the shell (it always returns  0)
> 
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd.
> 

I think I can do something for that: look at the revision #2577, it should be 
fixed.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 31 14:33:08 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:33:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using GLSL in gambas3
In-Reply-To: <200912310036.57217.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <200912310036.57217.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <200912311433.08974.gambas@...1...>

>   To follow the small announcement from benoit, let me present my work on
> gb.opengl component.
> 
> A new subset of the gb.opengl component is now in the svn: gb.opengl.glsl.
> 
>   As the name let you suggest, the purpose of this component is to let use
>  the power of shaders inside your opengl projects (if your card can support
>  them of course). There is still missing features but simple shaders can be
>  run (see attached project).
> 
>   A new dependency is needed for component gb.qt.opengl, gb.qt4.opengl and
> gb.sdl: glew library (see http://glew.sourceforge.net/). Internaly, this
> library will ease the management of openGL extensions. gb.sdl component
>  will use this library (some rewrite is needed but not a lot of).
> 
>   Documentation is on the way (damn i hate writing docs!) :-p see
> http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.opengl.glsl/gl?v3
> 
> Have fun !
> 

It would be cool if you can make a real and fun and cool example with shaders!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ron at ...1740...  Thu Dec 31 14:56:24 2009
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:56:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <200912311431.26001.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...> <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>
	<200912311431.26001.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4B3CAD88.70903@...1740...>

Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> Ron wrote:
>>     
>>> Some first experiences building scripts using gbs2
>>>
>>> Is it possible to display the errors at end of the output?
>>> If you execute a large script from shell and have a compile error you
>>> keep on scrolling up to see the error.
>>>
>>> Or even better when there is an error on a line, display the script
>>> source until that line number with the error below it.
>>> Maybe this is difficult because of the way scripting works. And/or
>>> display line numbers in front of source code lines.
>>>
>>> Another thing, there is no way to get the file name of the script from
>>> within the code.
>>>
>>> Application.Args[0] =
>>> /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache/75ee02d930493c0fdc45e92c5b297df5
>>>
>>> Application.Name =  6dc71006365626c9524efb11972ce2af
>>>
>>> Script name in this case was 'callerid.script'
>>>       
>> Application.Path is also pointing to the cache/tmp directory instead of
>> the real location of the script.
>> Application.Path = /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache
>>     
>
> Yes, this is logical but annoying. I have no workaround at the moment yet.
>
>   
>> I begin to see now, why I couldn't use it that easily last time.
>>
>> If you have to start using things like 'EXEC [ "pwd" ] TO sPwd' to get
>> the current dir it doesn't make sense to use a Gambas script.
>>
>>     
>
> There is no current directory in Gambas!
>
>   
Are you sure?

By currentdir I mean the directory you started the Gambas app from.

This works in a Gambas Command Line or GUI app.

' Gambas module file

PUBLIC SUB Main()

  PRINT Application.Path

END

returns /home/ron/desktop, if the executable was saved and started from 
desktop. /tmp if started from /tmp

But doesn't work in a script like you said above.

The EXEC pwd works in a script, return the correct path, but is a bit silly.

Regards,
Ron_2nd.



From lordheavym at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 14:58:13 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:58:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using GLSL in gambas3
In-Reply-To: <200912311433.08974.gambas@...1...>
References: <200912310036.57217.lordheavym@...626...>
	<200912311433.08974.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912311458.13760.lordheavym@...626...>

Le jeudi 31 d?cembre 2009 14:33:08, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> 
> It would be cool if you can make a real and fun and cool example with
>  shaders!
> 

Yes i know it would be cool :-) First step is to finish the component (or at 
least more complete) to provide a coolest example.

The project provide was only to say "Hay, it work !", some kind of "hello 
world"




From nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 15:10:20 2009
From: nospam.nospam.nospam at ...626... (Kadaitcha Man)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 01:10:20 +1100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <200912311425.57583.gambas@...1...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...>
	<200912311425.57583.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <c811bd7b0912310610j534b26efi8a95c1f5c8184d7d@...627...>

2010/1/1 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:

> The scripter is very hacky: welcome to you, tester! :-)

lol



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 31 15:28:54 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:28:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <4B3C9250.1050008@...1740...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...> <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>
	<4B3C9250.1050008@...1740...>
Message-ID: <200912311528.54896.gambas@...1...>

> Ron wrote:
> > Ron wrote:
> >> Some first experiences building scripts using gbs2
> >>
> >> Is it possible to display the errors at end of the output?
> >> If you execute a large script from shell and have a compile error you
> >> keep on scrolling up to see the error.
> >>
> >> Or even better when there is an error on a line, display the script
> >> source until that line number with the error below it.
> >> Maybe this is difficult because of the way scripting works. And/or
> >> display line numbers in front of source code lines.
> >>
> >> Another thing, there is no way to get the file name of the script
> >> from within the code.
> >>
> >> Application.Args[0] =
> >> /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache/75ee02d930493c0fdc45e92c5b297df5
> >>
> >> Application.Name =  6dc71006365626c9524efb11972ce2af
> >>
> >> Script name in this case was 'callerid.script'
> >
> > Application.Path is also pointing to the cache/tmp directory instead
> > of the real location of the script.
> > Application.Path = /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache
> >
> > I begin to see now, why I couldn't use it that easily last time.
> >
> > If you have to start using things like 'EXEC [ "pwd" ] TO sPwd' to get
> > the current dir it doesn't make sense to use a Gambas script.
> 
> If you have this script:
> ----------------
> #! /usr/bin/env gbs2
> 
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
> 
> END
> 
> ' a comment
> ----------------
> 
> You get:
> ----------------
> /tmp/gambas.1000/12566/project.tmp/MMain.module:13: 'Main' already declared
> 
> ' Gambas module file
> 
> 
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
> 
> END
> 
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
> 
> ' a comment
> 
> END
> ----------------
> 
> This is ok:
> 
> #! /usr/bin/env gbs2
> 
> 
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
> 
> ' comment
> 
> END
> ----------------
> ie comments at the end of a script/outside SUBs are making the compiler
> crazy, and me too until I found out what the problem was. ;-p
> 
> Gambas 2.18.0
> 
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd.
> 

That bug should be fixed in revision #2578.

Regards, 

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 16:11:45 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:11:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas scripter
In-Reply-To: <4B3CAD88.70903@...1740...>
References: <4B3C8050.6030705@...1740...> <4B3C848F.4090501@...1740...>
	<200912311431.26001.gambas@...1...>
	<4B3CAD88.70903@...1740...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912310711p733371d0nad5475052a486133@...627...>

2009/12/31 Ron <ron at ...1740...>:
> Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>> Ron wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some first experiences building scripts using gbs2
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to display the errors at end of the output?
>>>> If you execute a large script from shell and have a compile error you
>>>> keep on scrolling up to see the error.
>>>>
>>>> Or even better when there is an error on a line, display the script
>>>> source until that line number with the error below it.
>>>> Maybe this is difficult because of the way scripting works. And/or
>>>> display line numbers in front of source code lines.
>>>>
>>>> Another thing, there is no way to get the file name of the script from
>>>> within the code.
>>>>
>>>> Application.Args[0] =
>>>> /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache/75ee02d930493c0fdc45e92c5b297df5
>>>>
>>>> Application.Name = ?6dc71006365626c9524efb11972ce2af
>>>>
>>>> Script name in this case was 'callerid.script'
>>>>
>>> Application.Path is also pointing to the cache/tmp directory instead of
>>> the real location of the script.
>>> Application.Path = /tmp/gambas.1000/script-cache
>>>
>>
>> Yes, this is logical but annoying. I have no workaround at the moment yet.
>>
>>
>>> I begin to see now, why I couldn't use it that easily last time.
>>>
>>> If you have to start using things like 'EXEC [ "pwd" ] TO sPwd' to get
>>> the current dir it doesn't make sense to use a Gambas script.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There is no current directory in Gambas!
>>
>>
> Are you sure?
>
> By currentdir I mean the directory you started the Gambas app from.
>
> This works in a Gambas Command Line or GUI app.
>
> ' Gambas module file
>
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
>
> ?PRINT Application.Path
>
> END
>
> returns /home/ron/desktop, if the executable was saved and started from
> desktop. /tmp if started from /tmp
>
> But doesn't work in a script like you said above.
>
> The EXEC pwd works in a script, return the correct path, but is a bit silly.
>
> Regards,
> Ron_2nd.
>

Try with Application.Dir



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 16:14:48 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:14:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using GLSL in gambas3
In-Reply-To: <200912311458.13760.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <200912310036.57217.lordheavym@...626...>
	<200912311433.08974.gambas@...1...>
	<200912311458.13760.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912310714n27f6fc73iaf94c70e0d5c7af8@...627...>

The more coolest thing will be to have a project that show some nehe exemples..

like the painting one.

2009/12/31 Laurent Carlier <lordheavym at ...626...>:
> Le jeudi 31 d?cembre 2009 14:33:08, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>>
>> It would be cool if you can make a real and fun and cool example with
>> ?shaders!
>>
>
> Yes i know it would be cool :-) First step is to finish the component (or at
> least more complete) to provide a coolest example.
>
> The project provide was only to say "Hay, it work !", some kind of "hello
> world"
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 31 16:20:59 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:20:59 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using GLSL in gambas3
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0912310714n27f6fc73iaf94c70e0d5c7af8@...627...>
References: <200912310036.57217.lordheavym@...626...>
	<200912311458.13760.lordheavym@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912310714n27f6fc73iaf94c70e0d5c7af8@...627...>
Message-ID: <200912311620.59745.gambas@...1...>

> The more coolest thing will be to have a project that show some nehe
>  exemples..
> 
> like the painting one.
> 

nehe ? eunehe ??

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lordheavym at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 16:29:05 2009
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:29:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using GLSL in gambas3
In-Reply-To: <200912311620.59745.gambas@...1...>
References: <200912310036.57217.lordheavym@...626...>
	<6324a42a0912310714n27f6fc73iaf94c70e0d5c7af8@...627...>
	<200912311620.59745.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <200912311629.05461.lordheavym@...626...>

Le jeudi 31 d?cembre 2009 16:20:59, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > The more coolest thing will be to have a project that show some nehe
> >  exemples..
> >
> > like the painting one.
> 
> nehe ? eunehe ??
> 
:-)

http://nehe.gamedev.net/



From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 17:12:40 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:12:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  Should i upgrade to gambas3
Message-ID: <26979805.post@...1379...>


Hi.
I m using ubuntu 9.04 and gambas 2.8 and i got this problems, pls help

1. There will be a run error if i select a shortcut for menu item, the error
read "The program has stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11" and no
error once i removed the shortcut

2. My window will also show the Minimised button even though i set the
Border and the Minimised properties to False

3. If i want to checked whether a textbox is empty, i currently have to used
this method  ( IF trim(txtUserName.text) <> "" then .... ) instead of what
was documented, which is thru using the IsBlank ( i did test this out but
found out that it will only report a textbox as empty or blank providing the
user press the space bar once ) and also the proposed method of directly
checking if a string is empty from the tip window is also not working

Pls advise, Thank you 
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From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 17:45:05 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:45:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  Is Gambas2.8 stable?
Message-ID: <26980099.post@...1379...>


HI.
I got me a Frame object in my form and i got this in my code

PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()

  WITH ME
    .maximized = TRUE
    .Frame1.visible = false
  END WITH
  
END

When i run it, error "Unknown symbol 'Frame1' in clase 'FMain'

How come ppls?
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From gambas at ...1...  Thu Dec 31 17:45:36 2009
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:45:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
In-Reply-To: <26979805.post@...1379...>
References: <26979805.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <200912311745.37028.gambas@...1...>

> Hi.
> I m using ubuntu 9.04 and gambas 2.8 and i got this problems, pls help
> 
> 1. There will be a run error if i select a shortcut for menu item, the
>  error read "The program has stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11"
>  and no error once i removed the shortcut

Do you use gb.gtk or gb.qt? Can you provide your project? I guess the bug has 
been fixed since, but Ubuntu is apparently unable to provide a Gambas package 
older than the 2.8 version released sixteen months ago!

> 
> 2. My window will also show the Minimised button even though i set the
> Border and the Minimised properties to False
> 

Setting the Minimized property to False just tell the window to not be 
minimized.

Anyway, you have the same problem as "Kadaitcha Man": the minimize button 
cannot be removed.

And you cannot set the Border property to "False". The Border property in 
Gambas 2 can take three different values: Border.None, Border.Fixed and 
Border.Resizable.

If you set the Border property to Border.None, the window will not be managed 
by the window manager, and so will have no border.

> 3. If i want to checked whether a textbox is empty, i currently have to
>  used this method  ( IF trim(txtUserName.text) <> "" then .... ) instead of
>  what was documented, which is thru using the IsBlank 

Where did you see that? Did you read the documentation of the IsBlank() 
function? 

<< IF Trim(txtUserName.Text) <> "" THEN >> is the right way of checking if a 
string is not empty. A faster way is writing << IF Trim(txtUserName.Text) THEN 
>>.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From wdahn at ...1000...  Thu Dec 31 17:47:10 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:47:10 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
In-Reply-To: <26979805.post@...1379...>
References: <26979805.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <4B3CD58E.4060006@...1000...>

On 01/01/10 00:12, cwyong1 wrote:
> Hi.
> I m using ubuntu 9.04 and gambas 2.8 and i got this problems, pls help
>
> 1. There will be a run error if i select a shortcut for menu item, the error
> read "The program has stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11" and no
> error once i removed the shortcut
>
> 2. My window will also show the Minimised button even though i set the
> Border and the Minimised properties to False
>
> 3. If i want to checked whether a textbox is empty, i currently have to used
> this method  ( IF trim(txtUserName.text) <> "" then .... ) instead of what
> was documented, which is thru using the IsBlank ( i did test this out but
> found out that it will only report a textbox as empty or blank providing the
> user press the space bar once ) and also the proposed method of directly
> checking if a string is empty from the tip window is also not working
>
> Pls advise, Thank you 
>   
It is much easier for everybody if you ask each question in a seperate
thread.

Regarding question 3:
If you want to find out if there is any text in a textbox:

If txtUserName.Text = ""
    or
If isNull(txtUserName.Text)

should both work.

Best Regards and Happy New Year (it is now in Hong Kong)
Werner




From bill at ...2350...  Thu Dec 31 17:21:29 2009
From: bill at ...2350... (Bill Richman)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:21:29 -0600
Subject: [Gambas-user] GAMBAS rules! (And a couple of questions about
 listboxes and control "arrays")
Message-ID: <4B3CCF89.70704@...2350...>

First off, I'd like to say that I really, _really_ like GAMBAS.  I was 
pulling my hair out trying to do something with Open Office macros when 
I discovered GAMBAS.  I went from taking stabs in the dark at methods 
and properties to an auto-prompting system with a really great IDE.  
Many thanks to those who developed it and shared it with the rest of us!

Now, the questions... :-)


#1) I've got a form with 144 code-generated tool buttons on it, with 
pictures assigned to them.  The code that generates them inserts an 
"index" number in each button's "tag" property, and I use that to know 
which button generated an event.  Now, however, I need to be able to 
dynamically change the picture assigned to individual buttons.  How do I 
address a specific button in the group?  I suppose I can iterate through 
all the tool button class objects on the form and test each one to see 
if its tag matches the one that came from LAST.tag, but this seems very 
inefficient.  Is there a better way?  I've been searching the mailing 
list archive, but most of the questions about control arrays seem to 
deal more with getting all the controls to trigger the same event and 
the like. 

#2) I've got a list of names, each of which has a number associated with 
it.  I want the user to be able to select a name from a ListBox control 
and get the associated number.  These are in an SQLite database, so I'd 
thought about looking up the name and returning the number, but since 
the names are entered by the user on another form and can be anything, 
there's a chance they could enter the same name in more than one record 
and confuse things.  I'd like to have a "hidden" column in the ListBox 
(or another ListBox that's hidden?) that contains the numbers, and that 
scrolls and selects "in sync" with the displayed list of names.  I 
suppose I could insert the numbers in front of the names in the listbox, 
and then parse them back out when the user makes a selection, but I'd 
rather not have them visible.  Any ideas?

#3) My ListBoxes roll smoothly up and down from one list item to 
another, like movie credits rolling by, and it's really slow.  If I were 
the user, this would make me crazy.  Is there a way to get them to "jump 
scroll" instead of "smooth scroll"?  :-$


Any suggestions would be most welcome.

-- 
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From pinozollo at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 17:27:11 2009
From: pinozollo at ...626... (Pino Zollo)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:27:11 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Corrupted Form
Message-ID: <200912311327.11804.pinozollo@...626...>

Hi Benoit,

I include a small project that gives a problem:
Whenever I modify the form in the IDE the form comes with an extra ) which
generates an error at executing the program.

"), ("modem.get_name  ")])     <----- the last ) is hurting

The only solution by now is to edit Fmain.form with gedit and run again.

Happy 2010 ! In gambaS !

Pino
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 18:13:33 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:13:33 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is Gambas2.8 stable?
In-Reply-To: <26980099.post@...1379...>
References: <26980099.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912310913w38fe7160r4b7a62d367e71a89@...627...>

2009/12/31 cwyong1 <yongchiaowoei at ...626...>:
>
> HI.
> I got me a Frame object in my form and i got this in my code
>
> PUBLIC SUB Form_Open()
>
> ?WITH ME
> ? ?.maximized = TRUE
> ? ?.Frame1.visible = false
> ?END WITH
>
> END
>


it's normal

if you are trying to access like that to an objet it's like a call
from another place...

and Frame1 is a private member of Form not accessible from the outside

Maximized is a public property of Form so it is accessible from the
outside by me.maximized for exemple.

so to do what you want :

Me.Maximized = true
Frame1.Visible = False

Contrary to VB In gambas all form objects are not public !







> When i run it, error "Unknown symbol 'Frame1' in clase 'FMain'
>
> How come ppls?
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 18:17:27 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:17:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
In-Reply-To: <4B3CD58E.4060006@...1000...>
References: <26979805.post@...1379...> <4B3CD58E.4060006@...1000...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912310917l13a175efjf6bf6d0dedac55f@...627...>

2009/12/31 Werner <wdahn at ...1000...>:
> On 01/01/10 00:12, cwyong1 wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I m using ubuntu 9.04 and gambas 2.8 and i got this problems, pls help
>>
>> 1. There will be a run error if i select a shortcut for menu item, the error
>> read "The program has stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11" and no
>> error once i removed the shortcut
>>
>> 2. My window will also show the Minimised button even though i set the
>> Border and the Minimised properties to False
>>
>> 3. If i want to checked whether a textbox is empty, i currently have to used
>> this method ?( IF trim(txtUserName.text) <> "" then .... ) instead of what
>> was documented, which is thru using the IsBlank ( i did test this out but
>> found out that it will only report a textbox as empty or blank providing the
>> user press the space bar once ) and also the proposed method of directly
>> checking if a string is empty from the tip window is also not working
>>
>> Pls advise, Thank you
>>
> It is much easier for everybody if you ask each question in a seperate
> thread.
>
> Regarding question 3:
> If you want to find out if there is any text in a textbox:
>
> If txtUserName.Text = ""
> ? ?or
> If isNull(txtUserName.Text)
or
if not txtUserName.Text then


an empty string return false

> should both work.
>
> Best Regards and Happy New Year (it is now in Hong Kong)
> Werner
>
>
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From steven at ...1652...  Thu Dec 31 17:56:36 2009
From: steven at ...1652... (Steven revimmo)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:56:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
In-Reply-To: <4B3CD58E.4060006@...1000...>
References: <26979805.post@...1379...>  <4B3CD58E.4060006@...1000...>
Message-ID: <1262278596.25548.37.camel@...1936...>

Le vendredi 01 janvier 2010 ? 00:47 +0800, Werner a ?crit :

> Best Regards and Happy New Year (it is now in Hong Kong)
> Werner
> 
> 

And happy New Year to you (and all on this list) too.
Here, in France it's 'only' 18:00, so we wait .... ;-)

Should you not be doing something else (as writing on this list) ?

Steven



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 18:33:40 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:33:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] GAMBAS rules! (And a couple of questions about
	listboxes and control "arrays")
In-Reply-To: <4B3CCF89.70704@...2350...>
References: <4B3CCF89.70704@...2350...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912310933i46271902h42dc3d0ea4df3e9b@...627...>

2009/12/31 Bill Richman <bill at ...2350...>:
> First off, I'd like to say that I really, _really_ like GAMBAS. ?I was
> pulling my hair out trying to do something with Open Office macros when
> I discovered GAMBAS. ?I went from taking stabs in the dark at methods
> and properties to an auto-prompting system with a really great IDE.
> Many thanks to those who developed it and shared it with the rest of us!
>
> Now, the questions... :-)
>
>
> #1) I've got a form with 144 code-generated tool buttons on it, with
> pictures assigned to them. ?The code that generates them inserts an
> "index" number in each button's "tag" property, and I use that to know
> which button generated an event. ?Now, however, I need to be able to
> dynamically change the picture assigned to individual buttons. ?How do I
> address a specific button in the group? ?I suppose I can iterate through
> all the tool button class objects on the form and test each one to see
> if its tag matches the one that came from LAST.tag, but this seems very
> inefficient. ?Is there a better way? ?I've been searching the mailing
> list archive, but most of the questions about control arrays seem to
> deal more with getting all the controls to trigger the same event and
> the like.
>

use an object array and store all the object in it.


For i = 0 to 144
hButton = New Button(me) as "button"
hButton.Tag = i
aButtons.Add(hButton)

Next


aButtons[40].Text


> #2) I've got a list of names, each of which has a number associated with
> it. ?I want the user to be able to select a name from a ListBox control
> and get the associated number. ?These are in an SQLite database, so I'd
> thought about looking up the name and returning the number, but since
> the names are entered by the user on another form and can be anything,
> there's a chance they could enter the same name in more than one record
> and confuse things. ?I'd like to have a "hidden" column in the ListBox
> (or another ListBox that's hidden?) that contains the numbers, and that
> scrolls and selects "in sync" with the displayed list of names. ?I
> suppose I could insert the numbers in front of the names in the listbox,
> and then parse them back out when the user makes a selection, but I'd
> rather not have them visible. ?Any ideas?

yes use a sql request ...

hresult = db.exec("SELECT id, name FROM mytable GROUP BY name")

''then use a listview

For each hResult

ListView1.add(hResult!id, hResult!name)

next

Public sub ListView1_Click()
  print ListView1.Current.key
End


> #3) My ListBoxes roll smoothly up and down from one list item to
> another, like movie credits rolling by, and it's really slow. ?If I were
> the user, this would make me crazy. ?Is there a way to get them to "jump
> scroll" instead of "smooth scroll"? ?:-$

?????
i think this not depend on Gambas but on qt or gtk

> Any suggestions would be most welcome.
>
> --
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>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 18:36:41 2009
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:36:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1262278596.25548.37.camel@...1936...>
References: <26979805.post@...1379...> <4B3CD58E.4060006@...1000...>
	<1262278596.25548.37.camel@...1936...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0912310936rd36c5e3n63996b7b0614c6ea@...627...>

2009/12/31 Steven revimmo <steven at ...1652...>:
> Le vendredi 01 janvier 2010 ? 00:47 +0800, Werner a ?crit :
>
>> Best Regards and Happy New Year (it is now in Hong Kong)
>> Werner
>>
>>
>
> And happy New Year to you (and all on this list) too.
> Here, in France it's 'only' 18:00, so we wait .... ;-)

i'min france too !

the diner is at only 20H

> Should you not be doing something else (as writing on this list) ?
>
> Steven
>
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From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 19:23:15 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:23:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
In-Reply-To: <200912311745.37028.gambas@...1...>
References: <26979805.post@...1379...>
	<200912311745.37028.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <26981082.post@...1379...>


Tq for the prompt reply,
1. How do i find out if i m using gb.gtk or gb.qt pls?
2. Sorry for my typo mistake, because i was not trying to set the form
border to false at all. LOL
3. I did read thru the gambas doc on isblank, and if i recalled corrected it
said something about tab or space which was what lead me to press the space
bar to test it out
and lastly, in the tip window upon running gambas, it did mention a simpler
way of testing whether a string is empty and alas that too is not working. (
i guess it be already fixed up in the newer version )

Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> I m using ubuntu 9.04 and gambas 2.8 and i got this problems, pls help
>> 
>> 1. There will be a run error if i select a shortcut for menu item, the
>>  error read "The program has stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11"
>>  and no error once i removed the shortcut
> 
> Do you use gb.gtk or gb.qt? Can you provide your project? I guess the bug
> has 
> been fixed since, but Ubuntu is apparently unable to provide a Gambas
> package 
> older than the 2.8 version released sixteen months ago!
> 
>> 
>> 2. My window will also show the Minimised button even though i set the
>> Border and the Minimised properties to False
>> 
> 
> Setting the Minimized property to False just tell the window to not be 
> minimized.
> 
> Anyway, you have the same problem as "Kadaitcha Man": the minimize button 
> cannot be removed.
> 
> And you cannot set the Border property to "False". The Border property in 
> Gambas 2 can take three different values: Border.None, Border.Fixed and 
> Border.Resizable.
> 
> If you set the Border property to Border.None, the window will not be
> managed 
> by the window manager, and so will have no border.
> 
>> 3. If i want to checked whether a textbox is empty, i currently have to
>>  used this method  ( IF trim(txtUserName.text) <> "" then .... ) instead
>> of
>>  what was documented, which is thru using the IsBlank 
> 
> Where did you see that? Did you read the documentation of the IsBlank() 
> function? 
> 
> << IF Trim(txtUserName.Text) <> "" THEN >> is the right way of checking if
> a 
> string is not empty. A faster way is writing << IF Trim(txtUserName.Text)
> THEN 
>>>.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
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From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 19:29:10 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:29:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
In-Reply-To: <26981082.post@...1379...>
References: <26979805.post@...1379...>
	<200912311745.37028.gambas@...1...>
	<26981082.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <26981148.post@...1379...>


Btw, is there any way to cancel the minimized click event, i asked because
about a year ago when i was programming in vb, i recalled something about
setting the cancel value to 1 to stop it. Is there anything similar in
gambas ? 


cwyong1 wrote:
> 
> Tq for the prompt reply,
> 1. How do i find out if i m using gb.gtk or gb.qt pls?
> 2. Sorry for my typo mistake, because i was not trying to set the form
> border to false at all. LOL
> 3. I did read thru the gambas doc on isblank, and if i recalled corrected
> it said something about tab or space which was what lead me to press the
> space bar to test it out
> and lastly, in the tip window upon running gambas, it did mention a
> simpler way of testing whether a string is empty and alas that too is not
> working. ( i guess it be already fixed up in the newer version )
> 
> Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> I m using ubuntu 9.04 and gambas 2.8 and i got this problems, pls help
>>> 
>>> 1. There will be a run error if i select a shortcut for menu item, the
>>>  error read "The program has stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11"
>>>  and no error once i removed the shortcut
>> 
>> Do you use gb.gtk or gb.qt? Can you provide your project? I guess the bug
>> has 
>> been fixed since, but Ubuntu is apparently unable to provide a Gambas
>> package 
>> older than the 2.8 version released sixteen months ago!
>> 
>>> 
>>> 2. My window will also show the Minimised button even though i set the
>>> Border and the Minimised properties to False
>>> 
>> 
>> Setting the Minimized property to False just tell the window to not be 
>> minimized.
>> 
>> Anyway, you have the same problem as "Kadaitcha Man": the minimize button 
>> cannot be removed.
>> 
>> And you cannot set the Border property to "False". The Border property in 
>> Gambas 2 can take three different values: Border.None, Border.Fixed and 
>> Border.Resizable.
>> 
>> If you set the Border property to Border.None, the window will not be
>> managed 
>> by the window manager, and so will have no border.
>> 
>>> 3. If i want to checked whether a textbox is empty, i currently have to
>>>  used this method  ( IF trim(txtUserName.text) <> "" then .... ) instead
>>> of
>>>  what was documented, which is thru using the IsBlank 
>> 
>> Where did you see that? Did you read the documentation of the IsBlank() 
>> function? 
>> 
>> << IF Trim(txtUserName.Text) <> "" THEN >> is the right way of checking
>> if a 
>> string is not empty. A faster way is writing << IF Trim(txtUserName.Text)
>> THEN 
>>>>.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> -- 
>> Beno?t Minisini
>> 
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From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 19:30:41 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:30:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
In-Reply-To: <4B3CD58E.4060006@...1000...>
References: <26979805.post@...1379...> <4B3CD58E.4060006@...1000...>
Message-ID: <26981160.post@...1379...>


TQ for your tip and advise. Happy new year to you and to all too

Werner-9 wrote:
> 
> On 01/01/10 00:12, cwyong1 wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I m using ubuntu 9.04 and gambas 2.8 and i got this problems, pls help
>>
>> 1. There will be a run error if i select a shortcut for menu item, the
>> error
>> read "The program has stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11" and no
>> error once i removed the shortcut
>>
>> 2. My window will also show the Minimised button even though i set the
>> Border and the Minimised properties to False
>>
>> 3. If i want to checked whether a textbox is empty, i currently have to
>> used
>> this method  ( IF trim(txtUserName.text) <> "" then .... ) instead of
>> what
>> was documented, which is thru using the IsBlank ( i did test this out but
>> found out that it will only report a textbox as empty or blank providing
>> the
>> user press the space bar once ) and also the proposed method of directly
>> checking if a string is empty from the tip window is also not working
>>
>> Pls advise, Thank you 
>>   
> It is much easier for everybody if you ask each question in a seperate
> thread.
> 
> Regarding question 3:
> If you want to find out if there is any text in a textbox:
> 
> If txtUserName.Text = ""
>     or
> If isNull(txtUserName.Text)
> 
> should both work.
> 
> Best Regards and Happy New Year (it is now in Hong Kong)
> Werner
> 
> 
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From yongchiaowoei at ...626...  Thu Dec 31 19:32:49 2009
From: yongchiaowoei at ...626... (cwyong1)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:32:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1262278596.25548.37.camel@...1936...>
References: <26979805.post@...1379...> <4B3CD58E.4060006@...1000...>
	<1262278596.25548.37.camel@...1936...>
Message-ID: <26981179.post@...1379...>


hi. 
Happy new year to you too...


Steven revimmo wrote:
> 
> Le vendredi 01 janvier 2010 ? 00:47 +0800, Werner a ?crit :
> 
>> Best Regards and Happy New Year (it is now in Hong Kong)
>> Werner
>> 
>> 
> 
> And happy New Year to you (and all on this list) too.
> Here, in France it's 'only' 18:00, so we wait .... ;-)
> 
> Should you not be doing something else (as writing on this list) ?
> 
> Steven
> 
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From wdahn at ...1000...  Thu Dec 31 20:48:54 2009
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:48:54 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Should i upgrade to gambas3
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On 01/01/10 02:32, cwyong1 wrote:
> hi. 
> Happy new year to you too...
>
>
> Steven revimmo wrote:
>   
>> Le vendredi 01 janvier 2010 ? 00:47 +0800, Werner a ?crit :
>>
>>     
>>> Best Regards and Happy New Year (it is now in Hong Kong)
>>> Werner
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> And happy New Year to you (and all on this list) too.
>> Here, in France it's 'only' 18:00, so we wait .... ;-)
>>
>> Should you not be doing something else (as writing on this list) ?
>>
>> Steven
>>     
In the Gambas Empire the Sun Never Sets :-D