[Gambas-user] Why is Gambas so frowned upon in the Linux programming community

nando nando_f at ...951...
Mon Mar 31 00:36:11 CEST 2008


Gambas gets the job done the easiest in many, many ways.
As 'new-thinking' as many Linux programmers are, sometimes
something like Gambas is good thing - and it is!!
They just don't believe it (yet)


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Rob <sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...>
To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:27:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Why is Gambas so frowned upon in the Linux programming community

> On Sunday 30 March 2008 17:58, jbskaggs wrote:
> > One of the responses was this snippy response that People in the
> > Ubuntu community do not use a vb clone and they would not like to
> > either.  That I should use Python or C++.
> 
> Well, you only got one response in the hour since you posted it, and 
> that guy seems to be a Python fanatic (he didn't mention C++ and most 
> of his other posts are about Python).  His screen name works out 
> to "MS Sever".  So, consider the source.
> 
> On other Gambas threads in the Ubuntu forums there hasn't been the 
> same level of negativity, and I've generally found those forums to be 
> helpful and friendly though I've never looked for Gambas help there.
> 
> > Is it because VB was used in windows?  or that Gambas is tearing
> > down a wall of superiority of linux programmers.
> 
> Yes, and yes.  Linux coders see an IDE with a BASIC-like language and 
> immediately (1) think of corporate wage slaves, (2) think of what a 
> horrific language VB was (and BASIC itself was), and (3) feel 
> threatened because it puts less experienced coders on almost equal 
> footing with them.  Users of high-level languages with less mature or 
> less integrated IDEs, like Python, will feel especially threatened 
> because they can imagine a world where everyone but them has switched 
> to BASIC.
> 
> I don't know if you were around when VB first came out, but all the 
> Turbo Pascal users laughed and pointed fingers, and then howled about 
> how horrible it was.  Then they all ended up coding in it anyway, 
> because Delphi (TP for Windows) turned out to be kind of a niche 
> language.  They're probably all .NET programmers now.
> 
> Python, however, is not going to fall flat on its face, so you can 
> expect the "get a real language" line to continue to be thrown at you 
> by ignorant people who think Gambas is a VB clone.
> 
> > without crutches like gui generation, why I should learn harder
> > languages if Gambas does everything I want?
> 
> I'm with you; I'm pretty comfortable in C/C++, and have rolled my own 
> GUIs with it, and have done the same in Perl, Tcl and other languages 
> as well.  But I would rather use whatever gets the job done quickest 
> so that I can get more jobs.  I'm doing this mostly for business, not 
> jerking around in my mom's basement or something to show my Internet 
> buddies how elite I am.
> 
> Rob
> 
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