[Gambas-user] [Gambas-devel] Gambas 2 roadmap (Benoit Minisini)

[José L. Redrejo Rodríguez]

El lun, 03-07-2006 a las 10:01 -0700, Benoit Minisini
<gambas at ...1...> escribió:

> 
> Let's continue the talk only on the user mailing-list...
> 
> On Monday 03 July 2006 17:52, Jos? L. Redrejo Rodr?guez wrote:
> >
> > Wow! Those are a lot of things to be done. I only miss one: an avahi
> > component, that together with the d-bus component would allow the
> > developing of collaborative tools in a LAN environment.
> 
> I don't know what avahi is, except that there is a service related with it on 
> my Mandriva. As I didn't know what it was, I stopped it :-)

http://www.avahi.org/ is part of the freedesktop.org project. In a few
words, it allows zero-configuration of devices and networked
applications. Using avahi an application says that is available and
which are the services it provides. So you can just put some networked
computers using avahi and the users don't need to know anything about ip
addresses or even network addresses. The applications can connect
automagically to a shared printer, or to a chat or collaborative editor
without needing a central server or ip configuration. You can see here
http://www.avahi.org/wiki/Avah4users#SoftwareMakinguseofAvahi some
applications using it, but my favourite one is gobby
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobby ).

> 
> > I also would like to see the report component in 2.0, and not after, but
> > it's clear that there are too many things to be done, and not they all
> > can be done in the short term.
> 
> The report component needs some changes in the IDE. I want to release the 2.0 
> as soon as possible, and these changes can go to a 2.2 version.

Ok.

> 
> > Just one last question: I've heard you talk sometimes about the web use
> > of gambas, not to make cgi, but to develop web apps using the IDE. In
> > fact I want to remember that was one of the reasons to do the form
> > component. Do you still have that intention or just gave up ?
> >
> 
> I didn't give up. I have an idea about how to manage HTTP sessions with gambas 
> processes, but making "web" control (i.e. things that look like controls 
> inside a web page with some JavaScript) is difficult. I never did that, and 
> it depends on the browser client!
> 

As Rob Kudla said, ajax could be the easiest solution. Maybe using some
of the "standard" (standard in the sense of most used, in more than 50%
of non-google apps) ajax frameworks could be the solution. These are
free and  browser independent, for example
http://openrico.org/
http://script.aculo.us/
http://www.xajaxproject.org/
This is not free but is a great sample of what you can do:
http://www.activewidgets.com/grid/
When you get boring ;-) take a tour by http://www.ajaxian.com/ to see
the most recent news in this topic.

> My goal is allowing making web intranets very easy :-) Performances will not 
> be dedicated to the web, but to a local network.
> 

Obviously that's more than enough and we all would be happy (and proud)
to see it.

Regards