[Gambas-user] Some suggestion + feature missing

[nando]

The terms top,left,wide,height closely resemble
what they do and apply to as opposed to x,y,w,h 
which are more short forms.

Although I can use x,y,w,h I have gotten used to the 'words'
It is easier to read and debug, especially when the programs
are very large and trying to debug.

-Fernando

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From: Benoit Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:43:24 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Some suggestion + feature missing

> On Thursday 14 December 2006 17:27, jum wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 04:11:35 -0500
> >
> > > From: Rob <sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...>
> > > Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Some suggestion
> > > To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Message-ID: <200612030411.35748.sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > On Saturday 02 December 2006 18:24, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> > > > stack pulls, by convention, return the top element of the
> > > > stack before moving the stack pointer (postincrementing the
> > > > stack pointer) and pushes, by convention, move the stack
> > > > pointer before storing the data (predecrementing stack
> > > > pointer).  Virtually every CPU (and compsci textbook) out
> > > > there uses these same semantics for stack operations.
> > >
> > > The terminology in my CS textbooks all those years ago was "push
> > > and pop", not "push and pull".  Gambas already has Push() and
> > > Pop().... jum was just looking for a method of the Array object
> > > that acted like Push and Pop, but would operate on any element
> > > of an array, not just the top (last) element.
> > >
> > > I personally would like to see equivalents to Shift and Unshift
> > > (perl functions that behave like Pop and Push but on the bottom
> > > (first) element of a list rather than the top element,) but the
> > > Add method combined with a Remove method that returned the value
> > > it removed would be good enough for me.
> > >
> > > Rob
> >
> >  I am not only wants a solution but I need it simple (short) too,
> > so I prefer pop(i) rather than remove(i). May be Benoit knows me better
> > about it. So I always use:
> > - x,y,w,h rather than top,left,wide,height
> > - object.max than object.count - 1 (actually I ask Benoit to add it)
> 
> Maybe I could a synonymous support directly in the compiler, so that:
> A.Top is replaced by A.y, A.Left by A.x, and so on. A.Max will be 
> automatically replaced by (A.Count - 1). I will study what I can do...
> 
> > - IF without THEN if more than one line (I also beg Benoit to make THEN
> > optional, which make him called me lazy guy:-)
> > - if() rather than iif()
> > - and other feature like that (I hope it much in the future)
> >
> > So because my preference is like that, I want to ask about 1.9.46a version:
> >
> > - why iif() should have 3 mandatory parameters, I would like the old one.
> >   So we can use:
> >        PRINT "blablabla" & if(again, "blablabla") & if(more, "blablabla")
> >   rather than:
> >     PRINT "blablabla" & if(again, "blablabla", "") & if(more, "blablabla",
> > "") actually I have a lot of code like this.
> >
> > - why max() and min() only use 2 argument so insted of using:
> >     PRINT max(a,b,c,d,e)
> >    we should use:
> >     PRINT max(max(max(max(a,b),c),d),e) ' confusing, eh
> >    or may be:
> >     PRINT max(max(max(a,b),max(b,c)),e) ' still confuse?
> >   actually right now I am not have code like thit, but I think it can
> > happen to someone else.
> 
> Max() or Min() with more than two arguments is very rare, but I admit that 
> If() with two arguments only can be useful. Alas this syntax will only be 
> possible in Gambas 3.
> 
> >
> > So without it it like some gambas feature missing, so I hope it only
> > temporary because of some quick-fix of a bug make it like that.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > L. Jumadi
> >
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Benoit Minisini
> 
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