From karl.reinl at ...9...  Sun Jun  1 21:50:42 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 21:50:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Troubles with Exec Shell and Process
Message-ID: <3EDA5912.9030108@...9...>

Salut Beno?t,

 it seems that there are a problem with Exec/Shell and Process and Print.
The attached project is very simple. It sends a wrong string to the 
mysql Database.
mysql -uroot -p12345678
You should get an error 1045: Access denied for user: 'root at ...40...' 
(Using password: YES)
Hope your mysql root password is NOT 12345678 ;-)

If I do that on a prompt i will get back an error (see above), here 
noting, the Process_Error recives nothing.
?????
On the output 'Console' I'v got different outprintings:
I have only one line  , all output in 1 line, when I use the wait 0.2 , 
see Schnapschuss2.png
and the attached Schnapschuss1.png,
where in line 4  he began to write in 'EXEC star<here>ted'
and next line 5 'SHELL starte<here>d' also, without the wait 0.2.

I tested it on my well known SuSE 7.2 and a SuSE 8.0.
Both the same.

amicalement
Charlie



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From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116...  Mon Jun  2 11:04:32 2003
From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:04:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] problems with gambas-0.57
In-Reply-To: <200305302339.19989.gambas@...2...>
References: <200305302339.19989.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306021104.32609.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>

On Friday 30 May 2003 11:39 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote:

> Could SuSE users, gentoo users, and others that can't compile gambas
> because of a crash during the generation of *.info file download it, test
> it, and tell me the result ?

It still crashes on .info, but the good news is that on SuSE 8.2 both
paths to mysql and postgresql are recognized during configuration stage.

-- 
Radoslav Dejanovi?
Operacijski sustavi d.o.o.     http://www.opsus.hr



From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Mon Jun  2 18:30:51 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:30:51 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: [Gambas-devel] Parallel port
In-Reply-To: <3EDB6E98.9030807@...142...>
References: <3EDAD361.00000D.01912@...153...> <200306020936.25225.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EDB6E98.9030807@...142...>
Message-ID: <200306021230.51675.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Monday 02 June 2003 11:34, Jean-Francois Perreault wrote:
> I mean if cat /dev/ttyS0 display all the raw input from a mouse all you
> need is a data parser and you can read mouse data , wouldn't it work ?
> maybe I'm way out on this but I'd like to know why

Redirecting to gambas-user.  Please keep the conversation there unless it goes 
back to writing Gambas extensions in C again.

I don't think Gambas will let you read and write to a device simultaneously 
the way you can with a child process (which was why I suggested 'cu' as a 
workaround for the serial thing.)  Benoit?

Rob




From Gambasfr at ...11...  Mon Jun  2 22:04:03 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:04:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: [Gambas-devel] Parallel port
In-Reply-To: <200306021230.51675.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDAD361.00000D.01912@...153...> <3EDB6E98.9030807@...142...> <200306021230.51675.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306022204.03615.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Lundi 2 Juin 2003 18:30, Rob a ?crit :
> On Monday 02 June 2003 11:34, Jean-Francois Perreault wrote:
> > I mean if cat /dev/ttyS0 display all the raw input from a mouse all you
> > need is a data parser and you can read mouse data , wouldn't it work ?
> > maybe I'm way out on this but I'd like to know why
>
> Redirecting to gambas-user.  Please keep the conversation there unless it
> goes back to writing Gambas extensions in C again.
>
> I don't think Gambas will let you read and write to a device simultaneously
> the way you can with a child process (which was why I suggested 'cu' as a
> workaround for the serial thing.)  Benoit?
>
> Rob
>
>
>
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hem, i think the better in use the 
'Open' function

Open "/dev/ttyS0" for read direct as #1

?
No ?

In linux, a port is like a file...

Fabien



From Gambasfr at ...11...  Mon Jun  2 22:05:38 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:05:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: [Gambas-devel] Parallel port
In-Reply-To: <200306021230.51675.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDAD361.00000D.01912@...153...> <3EDB6E98.9030807@...142...> <200306021230.51675.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306022205.38903.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Lundi 2 Juin 2003 18:30, Rob a ?crit :
> On Monday 02 June 2003 11:34, Jean-Francois Perreault wrote:
> > I mean if cat /dev/ttyS0 display all the raw input from a mouse all you
> > need is a data parser and you can read mouse data , wouldn't it work ?
> > maybe I'm way out on this but I'd like to know why
>
> Redirecting to gambas-user.  Please keep the conversation there unless it
> goes back to writing Gambas extensions in C again.
>
> I don't think Gambas will let you read and write to a device simultaneously
> the way you can with a child process (which was why I suggested 'cu' as a
> workaround for the serial thing.)  Benoit?
>
> Rob
>
>
>
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oups 
I think you must to use a process

Look the console example




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Mon Jun  2 22:13:24 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:13:24 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: [Gambas-devel] Parallel port
In-Reply-To: <200306022205.38903.Gambasfr@...11...>
References: <3EDAD361.00000D.01912@...153...> <200306021230.51675.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306022205.38903.Gambasfr@...11...>
Message-ID: <200306021613.03046.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Monday 02 June 2003 16:05, Fabien wrote:
> oups
> I think you must to use a process
> Look the console example

Yep, that's what I was thinking of when I suggested shelling out to 'cu'. :)  
No such easy workaround for the parallel port though, at least AFAIK.

Rob




From gambas at ...2...  Tue Jun  3 19:36:02 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:36:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Troubles with Exec Shell and Process
In-Reply-To: <3EDA5912.9030108@...9...>
References: <3EDA5912.9030108@...9...>
Message-ID: <200306031936.02689.gambas@...2...>

Le Dimanche 1 Juin 2003 21:50, Charlie a ?crit :
> Salut Beno?t,
>
>  it seems that there are a problem with Exec/Shell and Process and Print.
> The attached project is very simple. It sends a wrong string to the
> mysql Database.
> mysql -uroot -p12345678
> You should get an error 1045: Access denied for user: 'root at ...40...'
> (Using password: YES)
> Hope your mysql root password is NOT 12345678 ;-)
>
> If I do that on a prompt i will get back an error (see above), here
> noting, the Process_Error recives nothing.
> ?????
> On the output 'Console' I'v got different outprintings:
> I have only one line  , all output in 1 line, when I use the wait 0.2 ,
> see Schnapschuss2.png
> and the attached Schnapschuss1.png,
> where in line 4  he began to write in 'EXEC star<here>ted'
> and next line 5 'SHELL starte<here>d' also, without the wait 0.2.
>
> I tested it on my well known SuSE 7.2 and a SuSE 8.0.
> Both the same.
>
> amicalement
> Charlie

Process_Error and Process_Write are events, and so are internally managed by 
the global qt event loop.

Whan you use EXEC / SHELL ... with WAIT, the event loop is never called, so 
you never get the result of the command.

Maybe I should call the vent loop when waiting for the end of a process.

The problem is - I'm ashamed :-) - that I didn't write the event loop inside 
the interpreter to manage events when a program do not use the qt component !

Maybe I should do that ?

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From karl.reinl at ...9...  Tue Jun  3 20:02:25 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:02:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Troubles with Exec Shell and Process
References: <3EDA5912.9030108@...9...> <200306031936.02689.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EDCE2B1.6090908@...9...>

Benoit Minisini schrieb:

>Process_Error and Process_Write are events, and so are internally managed by 
>the global qt event loop.
>
>Whan you use EXEC / SHELL ... with WAIT, the event loop is never called, so 
>you never get the result of the command.
>
>Maybe I should call the vent loop when waiting for the end of a process.
>
>The problem is - I'm ashamed :-) - that I didn't write the event loop inside 
>the interpreter to manage events when a program do not use the qt component !
>
>Maybe I should do that ?
>
>  
>
Salut Beno?t,

OK, I sended you the version with a WAIT, but I tried it also without 
this WAIT, it was the same !

But to another point : till now it is said that using qt > = 3.???

My Problems with PRINT ( I used to have at every print a new line ) 
let's me think that this problem commes from a too old qt version .?

Using 3.0.5 on my SuSE 7.2 and I had a look to the VMware SuSE 8.0 it 
has 3.0.3.

I had on SuSE 8.0 an update to 3.1.2 , but ran in troubles what I set to 
using g++  2.95.??

So , if i'm right I think it will be better to say gambas-0.56 or higher 
must use qt-3.1.xx and g++ > 3.x

Even if it works a little bit, like I have the impression on my box.

Tell my if I'm totaly wrong !

Charlie








From schrockk at ...137...  Tue Jun  3 23:35:06 2003
From: schrockk at ...137... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:35:06 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
Message-ID: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...>

Can I "send" an event? (like Win PostMessage)
i.e. Can I call Button1_Click() if I have no sub (code) for it?
(more useful real things would be select something in a listbox
 or perhaps drop down the list in a combo box programmatically)
If so how? (It is often helpful to do this asynchronous)

How does the grid control work?
The component explorer shows how to extract a cell
But no way I can see to set a cell contents
(I can't even make it show the grid)

I see people ask for MDI things
Why wouldn't the tabstrip work for this type of thing?
Spreadsheets and browsers both use this paradigm now
It seems neater and more organized than MDI

-- 
Using Lindows 





From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Tue Jun  3 21:40:25 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:40:25 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...>
Message-ID: <200306031540.25373.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 17:35, Ken Schrock wrote:
> Can I "send" an event? (like Win PostMessage)
> i.e. Can I call Button1_Click() if I have no sub (code) for it?
> (more useful real things would be select something in a listbox
>  or perhaps drop down the list in a combo box programmatically)
> If so how? (It is often helpful to do this asynchronous)

Well, as I understand it, you can pretty much do anything with events that you 
can do in VB (with the addition of being able to name your event subs 
anything you like if you want.)  The example you give, PostMessage, was an 
API call and not really part of VB, though I can see how such a thing would 
be useful.  Maybe it's possible already (like the Qt emit macro) and I just 
don't know about it.

I always had to SendKeys "{F4}" to drop down listboxes in my VB days and I 
actually don't know what the equivalent is in Gambas, but other things (like 
simulating a mouse click by calling the event sub directly) work much the 
same.

> How does the grid control work?
> The component explorer shows how to extract a cell
> But no way I can see to set a cell contents
> (I can't even make it show the grid)

I haven't used the grid control yet, but I'll try to make an example project 
this afternoon for you.  It seems to me you could also load up the Gambas 
Database Manager project and see how it's used there.  I suspect it's 
something like needing to dim a variable as a cell object, extract the cell 
to that object and using the cell's value (or something) property to get the 
contents of the cell.

> I see people ask for MDI things
> Why wouldn't the tabstrip work for this type of thing?
> Spreadsheets and browsers both use this paradigm now
> It seems neater and more organized than MDI

The MDI discussion came up because some people wanted the VB5/VB6 MDI look for 
Gambas, and once the capability became available I demonstrated how such an 
IDE could be made easily.  I think a tabstrip is a different paradigm and not 
one that's well suited for an IDE (after all, you'd often want a form and its 
code onscreen at the same time.)  An MDI form with tabbed subforms in it, on 
the other hand, could work well.

Rob





From gambas at ...2...  Tue Jun  3 22:36:01 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:36:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Troubles with Exec Shell and Process
In-Reply-To: <3EDCE2B1.6090908@...9...>
References: <3EDA5912.9030108@...9...> <200306031936.02689.gambas@...2...> <3EDCE2B1.6090908@...9...>
Message-ID: <200306032236.01946.gambas@...2...>

Le Mardi 3 Juin 2003 20:02, Charlie a ?crit :
> Benoit Minisini schrieb:
> >Process_Error and Process_Write are events, and so are internally managed
> > by the global qt event loop.
> >
> >Whan you use EXEC / SHELL ... with WAIT, the event loop is never called,
> > so you never get the result of the command.
> >
> >Maybe I should call the vent loop when waiting for the end of a process.
> >
> >The problem is - I'm ashamed :-) - that I didn't write the event loop
> > inside the interpreter to manage events when a program do not use the qt
> > component !
> >
> >Maybe I should do that ?
>
> Salut Beno?t,
>
> OK, I sended you the version with a WAIT, but I tried it also without
> this WAIT, it was the same !
>
> But to another point : till now it is said that using qt > = 3.???
>
> My Problems with PRINT ( I used to have at every print a new line )
> let's me think that this problem commes from a too old qt version .?
>
> Using 3.0.5 on my SuSE 7.2 and I had a look to the VMware SuSE 8.0 it
> has 3.0.3.
>
> I had on SuSE 8.0 an update to 3.1.2 , but ran in troubles what I set to
> using g++  2.95.??
>
> So , if i'm right I think it will be better to say gambas-0.56 or higher
> must use qt-3.1.xx and g++ > 3.x
>

Yes, now I think so. Trolltech may have changed too many things between QT 3.0 
and QT 3.1 to make gambas works the same with the two versions.

What will happen with QT 3.2 ????

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Tue Jun  3 22:40:11 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:40:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <200306031540.25373.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306031540.25373.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306032240.11069.gambas@...2...>

Le Mardi 3 Juin 2003 21:40, Rob a ?crit :
>
> > How does the grid control work?
> > The component explorer shows how to extract a cell
> > But no way I can see to set a cell contents
> > (I can't even make it show the grid)
>
> I haven't used the grid control yet, but I'll try to make an example
> project this afternoon for you.  It seems to me you could also load up the
> Gambas Database Manager project and see how it's used there.  I suspect
> it's something like needing to dim a variable as a cell object, extract the
> cell to that object and using the cell's value (or something) property to
> get the contents of the cell.
>

Be careful, The GridView control and the TableView (used in the gambas 
database manager) are very different.

The GridView control is a simple grid. To understand how to use it, the 
quicker is to read the FProperty.class file in the IDE source.

The TableView is a bit more complicated. It does not contain any data, it just 
raises a event each time it must get a data. Look in the g-d-m source !


> > I see people ask for MDI things
> > Why wouldn't the tabstrip work for this type of thing?
> > Spreadsheets and browsers both use this paradigm now
> > It seems neater and more organized than MDI
>
> The MDI discussion came up because some people wanted the VB5/VB6 MDI look
> for Gambas, and once the capability became available I demonstrated how
> such an IDE could be made easily.  I think a tabstrip is a different
> paradigm and not one that's well suited for an IDE (after all, you'd often
> want a form and its code onscreen at the same time.)  An MDI form with
> tabbed subforms in it, on the other hand, could work well.
>
> Rob
>

I'm not sure I will make a MDI interface for gambas. I would prefer a 
interface like Kate. It is like a MDI with all windows maximized.

But before doing anything, I will post examples so that people can tell what 
they prefer.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Tue Jun  3 22:45:43 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:45:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...>
Message-ID: <200306032245.43710.gambas@...2...>

Le Mardi 3 Juin 2003 23:35, Ken Schrock a ?crit :
> Can I "send" an event? (like Win PostMessage)
> i.e. Can I call Button1_Click() if I have no sub (code) for it?
> (more useful real things would be select something in a listbox
>  or perhaps drop down the list in a combo box programmatically)
> If so how? (It is often helpful to do this asynchronous)

You can raise a event from a class if you tell gambas that this class can 
raise events with the EVENT keyword.

MyClass.class:

EVENT MyEvent(MyParam AS String) AS Boolean ' event declaration

...

' Somewhere in a function
Result = MyEvent("Test")

MyMain.module:

DIM hTest AS MYClass

hTest = NEW MyClass AS "Test"

...

PUBLIC FUNCTION Test_MyEvent(sParam AS String) AS Boolean

...

END


> I see people ask for MDI things
> Why wouldn't the tabstrip work for this type of thing?
> Spreadsheets and browsers both use this paradigm now
> It seems neater and more organized than MDI

The TabStrip of QT are not practical when they have too many tabs, because you 
must to click many times on two little arrow buttons to access each tab. This 
is a complaint of Konqueror users since they can browse with tabs, and I 
think this widget will be rewritten under the users pressure.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From dan at ...138...  Wed Jun  4 00:32:03 2003
From: dan at ...138... (Dan Phillips)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:32:03 -0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <200306032240.11069.gambas@...2...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306031540.25373.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306032240.11069.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306031432.03627.dan@...138...>

-------snip--------
>
> I'm not sure I will make a MDI interface for gambas. I would prefer a
> interface like Kate. It is like a MDI with all windows maximized.
>
> But before doing anything, I will post examples so that people can tell
> what they prefer.

Don't forget, there are occasions where you want to be able to see two or more 
subforms (mdi child forms) at the same time side-by-side within the mdi 
parent.  If you were to simply do this w/ excel style tabs that showed 
subForm1 full size, or subForm2 full size, you wouldn't get the benefit from 
being able to position your windows for multi viewing purposes.  

I guess one example of such an app would be stock trading, you'd want to be 
able to watch stocks in one window while working in another.

Maybe not the best example but works anyway.

-----------------------
-Thanks, Dan
-Haight & Associates, Inc.
-907.586.9788
-----------------------



From kschrock at ...149...  Wed Jun  4 04:13:37 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 19:13:37 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306031540.25373.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EDD55D1.50003@...149...>

Rob wrote:

>On Tuesday 03 June 2003 17:35, Ken Schrock wrote:
>  
>
>>Can I "send" an event? (like Win PostMessage)
>>i.e. Can I call Button1_Click() if I have no sub (code) for it?
>>(more useful real things would be select something in a listbox
>> or perhaps drop down the list in a combo box programmatically)
>>If so how? (It is often helpful to do this asynchronous)
>>    
>>
>Well, as I understand it, you can pretty much do anything with events that you 
>can do in VB (with the addition of being able to name your event subs 
>anything you like if you want.)  The example you give, PostMessage, was an 
>API call and not really part of VB, though I can see how such a thing would 
>be useful.  Maybe it's possible already (like the Qt emit macro) and I just 
>don't know about it.
>
Ok, sounds like a hint...
Is the Qt emit call synchronous or asynchronous?
(SendMessage is synchronous, PostMessage asynchronous)
Can I call it from Gambas somehow?

[snip]

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From kschrock at ...149...  Wed Jun  4 05:23:15 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:23:15 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306032245.43710.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EDD6623.7030300@...149...>

Benoit Minisini wrote:

>Le Mardi 3 Juin 2003 23:35, Ken Schrock a ?crit :
>  
>
>>Can I "send" an event? (like Win PostMessage)
>>i.e. Can I call Button1_Click() if I have no sub (code) for it?
>>(more useful real things would be select something in a listbox
>> or perhaps drop down the list in a combo box programmatically)
>>If so how? (It is often helpful to do this asynchronous)
>>    
>>
>You can raise a event from a class if you tell gambas that this class can 
>raise events with the EVENT keyword.
>
Thanks, but here's the problem (perhaps I missed something)
The subs (callbacks, whatever) execute synchronously
No events are processed until the sub ends
So if I do

  PrintDialog1.showmodal
  GrabForm(me)

The dialog erases the window
The GrabForm() grabs a blank window
Even if you put Form1.Refresh between the two line
It still gets a blank window as the refresh doesn't happen until the sub 
ends
Calling a created event from here does no good as it isn't processing 
messages

Wait doesn't release like sleep() does
There seems to be a DoEvent like VB

PostMessage (or something similar)
Allows you to put an event in the queue to be called later
After the other events have finally finished processing
Post a refresh, post a print routine (created event)
And it all happens in the right order

I have several other examples, but you get the idea
I have found workarounds in each situation, but
Something like PostMessage would be easier
(or emit, or signal or whatever semantics)

>MyClass.class:
>
>EVENT MyEvent(MyParam AS String) AS Boolean ' event declaration
>
>...
>
>' Somewhere in a function
>Result = MyEvent("Test")
>
>MyMain.module:
>
>DIM hTest AS MYClass
>
>hTest = NEW MyClass AS "Test"
>
>...
>
>PUBLIC FUNCTION Test_MyEvent(sParam AS String) AS Boolean
>
>...
>
>END
>
>
>  
>
>>I see people ask for MDI things
>>Why wouldn't the tabstrip work for this type of thing?
>>Spreadsheets and browsers both use this paradigm now
>>It seems neater and more organized than MDI
>>    
>>
>
>The TabStrip of QT are not practical when they have too many tabs, because you 
>must to click many times on two little arrow buttons to access each tab. This 
>is a complaint of Konqueror users since they can browse with tabs, and I 
>think this widget will be rewritten under the users pressure.
>
>  
>

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From kschrock at ...149...  Wed Jun  4 05:24:34 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:24:34 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306031540.25373.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306032240.11069.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EDD6672.4080008@...149...>

Benoit Minisini wrote:

>Le Mardi 3 Juin 2003 21:40, Rob a ?crit :
>  
>
>>>How does the grid control work?
>>>The component explorer shows how to extract a cell
>>>But no way I can see to set a cell contents
>>>(I can't even make it show the grid)
>>>      
>>>
>>I haven't used the grid control yet, but I'll try to make an example
>>project this afternoon for you.  It seems to me you could also load up the
>>Gambas Database Manager project and see how it's used there.  I suspect
>>it's something like needing to dim a variable as a cell object, extract the
>>cell to that object and using the cell's value (or something) property to
>>get the contents of the cell.
>>
>Be careful, The GridView control and the TableView (used in the gambas 
>database manager) are very different.
>
>The GridView control is a simple grid. To understand how to use it, the 
>quicker is to read the FProperty.class file in the IDE source.
>
Ok, I keep falling into this trap
I have Gambas from a binary package
There is no source, no example.info or other things referred to 
repeatedly here

Now I suppose I could get the whole source package, unpack, hunt, seek, etc
Couldn't someone just pack up the relevant pieces on the web site?

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From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Wed Jun  4 04:05:28 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:05:28 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <3EDD55D1.50003@...149...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306031540.25373.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EDD55D1.50003@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306032205.28704.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 22:13, Ken Schrock wrote:
> > would be useful.  Maybe it's possible already (like the Qt emit macro)
> > and I just don't know about it.
> Ok, sounds like a hint...

It was more of a hint to Benoit since he wrote the Gambas Qt interface.  I was 
hoping maybe there was already some functionality like this in Gambas (since 
Qt supports it) and I just didn't know about it :)

> Is the Qt emit call synchronous or asynchronous?
> (SendMessage is synchronous, PostMessage asynchronous)

Asynchronous, as are all Qt signals as far as I know.

> Can I call it from Gambas somehow?

That's what I'm hoping to find out myself ;)

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Wed Jun  4 04:13:04 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:13:04 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <3EDD6672.4080008@...149...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306032240.11069.gambas@...2...> <3EDD6672.4080008@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306032213.04285.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 23:24, Ken Schrock wrote:
> Benoit Minisini wrote:
> >Le Mardi 3 Juin 2003 21:40, Rob a ?crit :
> >>>How does the grid control work?
> >>>The component explorer shows how to extract a cell
> >>>But no way I can see to set a cell contents
> >>>(I can't even make it show the grid)
> >>
> >>I haven't used the grid control yet, but I'll try to make an example
> >>project this afternoon for you.  It seems to me you could also load up
> >> the Gambas Database Manager project and see how it's used there.  I
> >> suspect it's something like needing to dim a variable as a cell object,
> >> extract the cell to that object and using the cell's value (or
> >> something) property to get the contents of the cell.
> >
> >Be careful, The GridView control and the TableView (used in the gambas
> >database manager) are very different.
> >
> >The GridView control is a simple grid. To understand how to use it, the
> >quicker is to read the FProperty.class file in the IDE source.
>
> Ok, I keep falling into this trap
> I have Gambas from a binary package
> There is no source, no example.info or other things referred to
> repeatedly here
>
> Now I suppose I could get the whole source package, unpack, hunt, seek, etc
> Couldn't someone just pack up the relevant pieces on the web site?

Well, I can put them on mine anyway.  These are all from 0.57.

Example Gambas projects that should have come with Gambas:
http://www.kudla.org/gambas/gambas057examples.tar.gz

Gambas source for Gambas IDE and DB manager:
http://www.kudla.org/gambas/gambasguisrc.tar.gz

Example of new Gambas component in C:
http://www.kudla.org/gambas/examplegambas057component.tar.gz

I'm surprised Lindows' Gambas package didn't at least come with the example 
projects since they're meant to be a newbie distro and newbies can always use 
example code.

Rob




From schrockk at ...137...  Wed Jun  4 05:15:45 2003
From: schrockk at ...137... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:15:45 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <200306032213.04285.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <3EDD6672.4080008@...149...> <200306032213.04285.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306032315.45317.schrockk@...137...>

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 10:13 pm, Rob wrote:
> Well, I can put them on mine anyway.  These are all from 0.57.

Thank you kind sir.

[snip]

> I'm surprised Lindows' Gambas package didn't at least come with the example
> projects since they're meant to be a newbie distro and newbies can always
> use example code.

The Lindows folks are a little scitzo, one foot in two different worlds
It defaults to you auto-logging in as root as standard procedure
But leaves Debian Fort Knox security on other simple things

They also package Kdevelop with about half the docs
And things like Glade come without docbook stuff
Most often the stuff is hiding in the warehouse
So I can usually grab it easily. Not this time

Question:

Would you be interested in helping me write a unified docs for this?
(so that the people the thing looks like it is designed for can use it)
Most of the pieces seem to be lying around somewhere or other
But it all needs some glue and a little polishing up here and there

-- 
Using Lindows



From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Wed Jun  4 06:36:54 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:36:54 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <200306032315.45317.schrockk@...137...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306032213.04285.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306032315.45317.schrockk@...137...>
Message-ID: <200306040036.54894.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Tuesday 03 June 2003 23:15, Ken Schrock wrote:
> Would you be interested in helping me write a unified docs for this?
> (so that the people the thing looks like it is designed for can use it)
> Most of the pieces seem to be lying around somewhere or other
> But it all needs some glue and a little polishing up here and there

Yeah, I'd been meaning to write a "Gambas for VB users" intro type of thing 
for a while but hadn't had time.  I had also been thinking of setting up a 
Gambas wiki (not to compete with theeasygambasdoku, but a set of pages anyone 
could edit with the goal of making a reference and tutorial that could be 
exported to HTML and distributed as an RPM to go with Gambas.)  What are your 
ideas?  I would say we could take it private except that there's no reason 
other people shouldn't get involved in documenting.

Hey, maybe it's time to write the Gambas Help Browser app in Gambas ;)  If we 
took the "help browser" route then eventually people would be able to 
contribute translations of our docs as well.  And currently F1 is unbound in 
the IDE ;)

Rob




From dimitribellini at ...69...  Wed Jun  4 13:10:32 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:10:32 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <200306040036.54894.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306032315.45317.schrockk@...137...> <200306040036.54894.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306041110.33518.dimitribellini@...69...>

> Yeah, I'd been meaning to write a "Gambas for VB users" intro type of thing

Great idea... I can translate it when is made :-) ...
Dimitri




From Gambasfr at ...11...  Wed Jun  4 21:24:59 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:24:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Yep, a little change on FEditor.class
In-Reply-To: <200306032213.04285.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <3EDD6672.4080008@...149...> <200306032213.04285.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306042124.59448.Gambasfr@...11...>

Salut

if you have a middle button on your mouse :

IF Button AND Mouse.Middle THEN
    CreateMenu
    mnuGoto.Popup
ENDIF

at the line : 192, in fact in the edtEditor_MouseUp event of FEditor

It's more practicle to go rapidly to a sub....

Fabien





From gambas at ...2...  Wed Jun  4 21:31:15 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:31:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <200306040036.54894.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306032315.45317.schrockk@...137...> <200306040036.54894.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306042131.15446.gambas@...2...>

Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 06:36, Rob a ?crit :
> On Tuesday 03 June 2003 23:15, Ken Schrock wrote:
> > Would you be interested in helping me write a unified docs for this?
> > (so that the people the thing looks like it is designed for can use it)
> > Most of the pieces seem to be lying around somewhere or other
> > But it all needs some glue and a little polishing up here and there
>
> Yeah, I'd been meaning to write a "Gambas for VB users" intro type of thing
> for a while but hadn't had time.  I had also been thinking of setting up a
> Gambas wiki (not to compete with theeasygambasdoku, but a set of pages
> anyone could edit with the goal of making a reference and tutorial that
> could be exported to HTML and distributed as an RPM to go with Gambas.) 
> What are your ideas?  I would say we could take it private except that
> there's no reason other people shouldn't get involved in documenting.
>
> Hey, maybe it's time to write the Gambas Help Browser app in Gambas ;)  If
> we took the "help browser" route then eventually people would be able to
> contribute translations of our docs as well.  And currently F1 is unbound
> in the IDE ;)
>
> Rob
>
>

Making a wiki is a great idea. If you do it, I will fill it !

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Wed Jun  4 21:33:22 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:33:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <3EDD55D1.50003@...149...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306031540.25373.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EDD55D1.50003@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306042133.22912.gambas@...2...>

Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 04:13, Ken Schrock a ?crit :
> Rob wrote:
> >On Tuesday 03 June 2003 17:35, Ken Schrock wrote:
> >>Can I "send" an event? (like Win PostMessage)
> >>i.e. Can I call Button1_Click() if I have no sub (code) for it?
> >>(more useful real things would be select something in a listbox
> >> or perhaps drop down the list in a combo box programmatically)
> >>If so how? (It is often helpful to do this asynchronous)
> >
> >Well, as I understand it, you can pretty much do anything with events that
> > you can do in VB (with the addition of being able to name your event subs
> > anything you like if you want.)  The example you give, PostMessage, was
> > an API call and not really part of VB, though I can see how such a thing
> > would be useful.  Maybe it's possible already (like the Qt emit macro)
> > and I just don't know about it.
>
> Ok, sounds like a hint...
> Is the Qt emit call synchronous or asynchronous?
> (SendMessage is synchronous, PostMessage asynchronous)
> Can I call it from Gambas somehow?
>
> [snip]


Stop dreaming. You will never see anything from the internal of QT in gambas. 
Remember that I want to make a GTK+ component compatible with the QT one in 
the future.

Events raised by gambas source code are immediately dispatched, (SendMessage 
for Win32 guys) they have nothing to do with QT events.

Events raised by QT are dispatched when QT dispatch them, so it depends.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Wed Jun  4 21:34:47 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:34:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Yep, a little change on FEditor.class
In-Reply-To: <200306042124.59448.Gambasfr@...11...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306032213.04285.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306042124.59448.Gambasfr@...11...>
Message-ID: <200306042134.47212.gambas@...2...>

Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 21:24, Fabien a ?crit :
> Salut
>
> if you have a middle button on your mouse :
>
> IF Button AND Mouse.Middle THEN
>     CreateMenu
>     mnuGoto.Popup
> ENDIF
>
> at the line : 192, in fact in the edtEditor_MouseUp event of FEditor
>
> It's more practicle to go rapidly to a sub....
>
> Fabien
>
>
>

For popup menus, you should use the Menu event instead of the MousePress 
event. This Menu event is raised when you hit the Windows keyboard menu key, 
not the MousePress event. 

It's better than VB :-)

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From karl.reinl at ...9...  Wed Jun  4 22:13:39 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 22:13:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306032315.45317.schrockk@...137...> <200306040036.54894.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306042131.15446.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EDE52F3.2020201@...9...>

Benoit Minisini schrieb:

>Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 06:36, Rob a ?crit :
>  
>
>>On Tuesday 03 June 2003 23:15, Ken Schrock wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Would you be interested in helping me write a unified docs for this?
>>>(so that the people the thing looks like it is designed for can use it)
>>>Most of the pieces seem to be lying around somewhere or other
>>>But it all needs some glue and a little polishing up here and there
>>>      
>>>
>>Yeah, I'd been meaning to write a "Gambas for VB users" intro type of thing
>>for a while but hadn't had time.  I had also been thinking of setting up a
>>Gambas wiki (not to compete with theeasygambasdoku, but a set of pages
>>anyone could edit with the goal of making a reference and tutorial that
>>could be exported to HTML and distributed as an RPM to go with Gambas.) 
>>What are your ideas?  I would say we could take it private except that
>>there's no reason other people shouldn't get involved in documenting.
>>
>>Hey, maybe it's time to write the Gambas Help Browser app in Gambas ;)  If
>>we took the "help browser" route then eventually people would be able to
>>contribute translations of our docs as well.  And currently F1 is unbound
>>in the IDE ;)
>>
>>Rob
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Making a wiki is a great idea. If you do it, I will fill it !
>
>  
>
Jochen has a started wiki on his http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/
go http://linuxwiki.de/Gambas

and fill it with live.

Charlie





From schrockk at ...137...  Thu Jun  5 00:36:13 2003
From: schrockk at ...137... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 18:36:13 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <200306040036.54894.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306032315.45317.schrockk@...137...> <200306040036.54894.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306041836.13208.schrockk@...137...>

My favorite is docbook, but not everybody has it or can get it easily
Benoit has the manual at the site in pdf for like .35 and SO for .5x
I find the PDF one MUCH easier to use

So either...
1. Stich all the pieces together into a big PDF doc
    (1 doc, 1 chapter each for overview, tutorial, manual, 
      components, making extentions, db stuff, examples, etc)
2. Find out how to get it into the currently used place (view ???)
    (1 new menu item for each of the above [component there now])

I also think we need icons at the top of the page like Win SDK help
* NEW FOR VER 0.57 (NEW autostart form, etc, blah, blah)
# VER 0.57 CHANGE (mine's .53, I can't run most of your .57 example)
@ Difference from VB (this funtion, property, method, etc, blah, blah. etc)

Again, these guys have touch on all this, just none is joined or done


On Wednesday 04 June 2003 12:36 am, Rob wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 June 2003 23:15, Ken Schrock wrote:
> > Would you be interested in helping me write a unified docs for this?
> > (so that the people the thing looks like it is designed for can use it)
> > Most of the pieces seem to be lying around somewhere or other
> > But it all needs some glue and a little polishing up here and there
>
> Yeah, I'd been meaning to write a "Gambas for VB users" intro type of thing
> for a while but hadn't had time.  I had also been thinking of setting up a
> Gambas wiki (not to compete with theeasygambasdoku, but a set of pages
> anyone could edit with the goal of making a reference and tutorial that
> could be exported to HTML and distributed as an RPM to go with Gambas.) 
> What are your ideas?  I would say we could take it private except that
> there's no reason other people shouldn't get involved in documenting.
>
> Hey, maybe it's time to write the Gambas Help Browser app in Gambas ;)  If
> we took the "help browser" route then eventually people would be able to
> contribute translations of our docs as well.  And currently F1 is unbound
> in the IDE ;)
>
> Rob
>
>
>
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From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Thu Jun  5 03:40:47 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:40:47 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas and nvidia thought
Message-ID: <200306042140.48087.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

Has anyone considered posting a note about gambas (maybe with some strace 
output or something) to this NVidia Linux driver bulletin board?  It seems to 
be the closest thing possible to submitting a bug report to Nvidia.  I 
searched for gambas and no one's mentioned the problem yet.  Maybe they'd 
give us the brushoff because Gambas isn't a 3D app, but it seems pretty clear 
that the NVidia >=1.0 driver is the problem and not Gambas.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14

I'm still using my trusty Voodoo 3 card or I'd do it myself ;)

Rob





From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Thu Jun  5 06:22:56 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:22:56 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306041836.13208.schrockk@...137...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306040036.54894.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306041836.13208.schrockk@...137...>
Message-ID: <200306050022.56645.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Wednesday 04 June 2003 18:36, Ken Schrock wrote:
> My favorite is docbook, but not everybody has it or can get it easily
> Benoit has the manual at the site in pdf for like .35 and SO for .5x
> I find the PDF one MUCH easier to use

I don't know if PDF is the way to go presently because there's no way to bring 
it up inside the Gambas IDE and there's no navigation around all those 
documents.  I mean, yeah, you can paste all kinds of documentation on the end 
of that SXW document and then save as PDF, and I think that's a great way to 
start getting all the documentation together, but I don't know if that'll be 
enough for the help system.

Your ideas regarding "New in *** version..." are right on, though I don't 
think we can do that retroactively very easily.  The "difference from VB" 
stuff on each page is a great idea and one I hadn't thought of.  That makes 
much more sense than an intro, though a "Help!  I'm a VB user!  What do I 
do?" page linked off the front page of the manual might be good too ;)

I'm actually leaning towards the wiki idea, and tonight I started working on a 
Gambas help viewer that will parse simple HTML files (like those that should 
be created when you export from a wiki) and navigate between different HTML 
files via links (which you can't do with the regular TextLabel control 
because the underlying Qt component QTextBrowser's link following event isn't 
supported in Gambas yet).  I'm also thinking I should do a full text index 
when I do the export from the wiki (whichever one we end up using.... mein 
Deutsch ist leider sehr schlecht...) and include that with the HTML and 
pixmap files.

I can't figure out how to subclass TextLabel and add my own events, not that I 
think it'd be possible in the first place to find out what word you just 
clicked on, so I'm rolling my own using a Scrollview and lots of individual 
TextLabel objects, meticulously spaced and tagged ;)  So far it's MUCH 
snappier than you might imagine, but I've done similar things successfully in 
Tcl which is a nasty and slow language so I'm not too surprised.  And, well, 
I actually have only gotten as far as parsing <B> and <IMG... tags.

But just now my awesome MDI hack of the Gambas IDE just exited without error 
on me as I was messing with the properties dialog, and I hadn't saved in 
about an hour, and so instead I'm going to bed ;)

Rob




From kannangn at ...154...  Thu Jun  5 17:21:16 2003
From: kannangn at ...154... (Kannan S)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:21:16 +0600 (IST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Richard Stallman's wish to the fore
Message-ID: <1054828276.3edf66f4f05dd@...156...>

Hello all at GAMBAS,

WARP 10, may be more. Hope Captain and the Crew guide us all thru. the perils and into an allnew and better world.


Heard Richard Stallman asking for an alternate to VB and here it is and well.


Jus installed the new version 0.57 and without the database support as the configurator couldnt find my 'mysql' installation..


Can u please help me out with this please.


We(my company where im consulting) are into the process of developing linux applications to the masses and im in charge of finding the best suited tools et al.

And GAMBAS has given us the smile for all the reasons.


Keep up the good work


Regards to all

R S Kannan
kannangn at ...154...

from Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India

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From jochen.georges at ...22...  Thu Jun  5 20:15:55 2003
From: jochen.georges at ...22... (Jochen Georges)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:15:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306050022.56645.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306041836.13208.schrockk@...137...> <200306050022.56645.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306052015.55269.jochen.georges@...22...>

On Thursday 05 June 2003 06:22, Rob wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 June 2003 18:36, Ken Schrock wrote:
> > My favorite is docbook, but not everybody has it or can get it easily
> > Benoit has the manual at the site in pdf for like .35 and SO for .5x
> > I find the PDF one MUCH easier to use

  snip .......

> I'm actually leaning towards the wiki idea, and tonight I started working
> on a Gambas help viewer that will parse simple HTML files (like those that
> should be created when you export from a wiki) and navigate between
> different HTML files via links (which you can't do with the regular
> TextLabel control because the underlying Qt component QTextBrowser's link
> following event isn't supported in Gambas yet).  I'm also thinking I should
> do a full text index when I do the export from the wiki (whichever one we
> end up using.... mein Deutsch ist leider sehr schlecht...) and include that
> with the HTML and pixmap files.

wiki is cool.
http://linuxwiki.de/Gambas
feel free to write there (in english?!)

beste gruesse
jochen



From karl.reinl at ...9...  Thu Jun  5 21:57:33 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:57:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Richard Stallman's wish to the fore
References: <1054828276.3edf66f4f05dd@...156...>
Message-ID: <3EDFA0AD.8070102@...9...>

Kannan S schrieb:

>Hello all at GAMBAS,
>
>WARP 10, may be more. Hope Captain and the Crew guide us all thru. the perils and into an allnew and better world.
>
>
>Heard Richard Stallman asking for an alternate to VB and here it is and well.
>
>
>Jus installed the new version 0.57 and without the database support as the configurator couldnt find my 'mysql' installation..
>
>
>Can u please help me out with this please.
>
>
>We(my company where im consulting) are into the process of developing linux applications to the masses and im in charge of finding the best suited tools et al.
>
>And GAMBAS has given us the smile for all the reasons.
>
>
>Keep up the good work
>
>
>Regards to all
>
>R S Kannan
>kannangn at ...154...
>
>from Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India
>
>  
>
Salut,

think you problem is that you haven't the mysql-devel-package on you 
linux-maschine, this is needed to compile.
If  mysql is installed on the computer have try with

http://www.fen-net.de/Karl.Reinl/gambas/TomySQL.html

here you access to mysql without the db-components.

amicalement
Charlie






From gambas at ...2...  Fri Jun  6 00:02:22 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 00:02:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <3EDE52F3.2020201@...9...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306042131.15446.gambas@...2...> <3EDE52F3.2020201@...9...>
Message-ID: <200306060002.22941.gambas@...2...>

Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 22:13, Charlie a ?crit :
> >Making a wiki is a great idea. If you do it, I will fill it !
>
> Jochen has a started wiki on his http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/
> go http://linuxwiki.de/Gambas
>
> and fill it with live.
>
> Charlie
>

It is in german ? Is it possible to have an english-only wiki for gambas 
documentation ?

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Fri Jun  6 00:03:56 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 00:03:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306050022.56645.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306041836.13208.schrockk@...137...> <200306050022.56645.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306060003.56446.gambas@...2...>

Le Jeudi 5 Juin 2003 06:22, Rob a ?crit :
> On Wednesday 04 June 2003 18:36, Ken Schrock wrote:
> > My favorite is docbook, but not everybody has it or can get it easily
> > Benoit has the manual at the site in pdf for like .35 and SO for .5x
> > I find the PDF one MUCH easier to use
>
> I don't know if PDF is the way to go presently because there's no way to
> bring it up inside the Gambas IDE and there's no navigation around all
> those documents.  I mean, yeah, you can paste all kinds of documentation on
> the end of that SXW document and then save as PDF, and I think that's a
> great way to start getting all the documentation together, but I don't know
> if that'll be enough for the help system.
>
> Your ideas regarding "New in *** version..." are right on, though I don't
> think we can do that retroactively very easily.  The "difference from VB"
> stuff on each page is a great idea and one I hadn't thought of.  That makes
> much more sense than an intro, though a "Help!  I'm a VB user!  What do I
> do?" page linked off the front page of the manual might be good too ;)
>
> I'm actually leaning towards the wiki idea, and tonight I started working
> on a Gambas help viewer that will parse simple HTML files (like those that
> should be created when you export from a wiki) and navigate between
> different HTML files via links (which you can't do with the regular
> TextLabel control because the underlying Qt component QTextBrowser's link
> following event isn't supported in Gambas yet).  I'm also thinking I should
> do a full text index when I do the export from the wiki (whichever one we
> end up using.... mein Deutsch ist leider sehr schlecht...) and include that
> with the HTML and pixmap files.
>
> I can't figure out how to subclass TextLabel and add my own events, not
> that I think it'd be possible in the first place to find out what word you
> just clicked on, so I'm rolling my own using a Scrollview and lots of
> individual TextLabel objects, meticulously spaced and tagged ;)  So far
> it's MUCH snappier than you might imagine, but I've done similar things
> successfully in Tcl which is a nasty and slow language so I'm not too
> surprised.  And, well, I actually have only gotten as far as parsing <B>
> and <IMG... tags.
>

You will have a TextBrowser widget in the next version. It is like a TextLabel 
with scrollbars, link management, and browsing capabilities.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From karl.reinl at ...9...  Fri Jun  6 00:42:15 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 00:42:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306042131.15446.gambas@...2...> <3EDE52F3.2020201@...9...> <200306060002.22941.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EDFC747.9010200@...9...>

Benoit Minisini schrieb:

>Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 22:13, Charlie a ?crit :
>  
>
>>>Making a wiki is a great idea. If you do it, I will fill it !
>>>      
>>>
>>Jochen has a started wiki on his http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/
>>go http://linuxwiki.de/Gambas
>>
>>and fill it with live.
>>
>>Charlie
>>
>>    
>>
>
>It is in german ? Is it possible to have an english-only wiki for gambas 
>documentation ?
>
>  
>
Salut,

yes the first ( and only ) lines are in german and the site also,
but if you have remaked it uses your browser languages for explications,
why not talking english on it.

Thats internet.

I do not know who was starting this, Jochen ?
And Jochen invents you also to talk english.

I just have this questions here around, to whom who started that wiki ?
- Is there a grand possibility using this wiki for a longer time ?
- Is it possible to make him a little more closed ( I mean a login, for 
signed up users etc.)
    I say that, because this evening I added a 'Hi All start here'  and 
I'm identified by 'dialn-nbg-088.fen-net.de'
    what means 'nobody', every one has access to this pages.

I founde out the work on the user access.

Set up a simple wiki is easy, but you need a admin who follows the 
demand of the users.

Dit you know there are wiki implementations in nearly every programming 
language, including  VB?

amicalement
Charlie
 




From girardhenri at ...67...  Fri Jun  6 00:52:45 2003
From: girardhenri at ...67... (HG)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 00:52:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] help needed to compile on RH 9
References: <1054828276.3edf66f4f05dd@...156...>
Message-ID: <BAY8-DAV57PBErvoirr000178b5@...67...>

Hi :)
Can somebody help to compile on RH 9 ?
Or make RPM ... or know if they are like M9.1 ?
Would be greatly appreciated !
KR
HG



From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 01:46:50 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 19:46:50 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306052015.55269.jochen.georges@...22...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306050022.56645.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306052015.55269.jochen.georges@...22...>
Message-ID: <200306051500.34425.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Thursday 05 June 2003 14:15, Jochen Georges wrote:
> wiki is cool.
> http://linuxwiki.de/Gambas
> feel free to write there (in english?!)

I've been there, but figured it was meant to be in German. I actually have 
already started a wiki, though there's not too much out there at the moment 
(just the contents of the Gambas Encyclopedia converted to wiki format using 
a perl script I wrote, and it probably needs some cleaning up) but here it 
is:

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki

I don't know whether it'll require a login to edit pages, but if it does, 
GambasUser/GambasUser should do it.  I'm working on at least getting the 
index by category working right this evening.

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 06:04:37 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 00:04:37 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306051500.34425.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306052015.55269.jochen.georges@...22...> <200306051500.34425.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306060004.37694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Thursday 05 June 2003 19:46, Rob wrote:
> I don't know whether it'll require a login to edit pages, but if it does,
> GambasUser/GambasUser should do it.  I'm working on at least getting the
> index by category working right this evening.

I just got in under the wire.  See what you guys think of the "by category" 
index.

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasIndexByCategory

If you don't like it, there's an edit button at the bottom of the page ;)

username GambasUser password GambasUser

Rob




From kannangn at ...154...  Fri Jun  6 04:16:35 2003
From: kannangn at ...154... (Kannan S)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:16:35 +0600 (IST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Richard Stallman's quest
Message-ID: <1054867595.3ee0008b21ce4@...158...>

Thank u for the guidance and mysql connect is working great.


Best wishes for the future,


R S Kannan


p.s.  Give me any tips/requirements  for a better involvement with GAMBAS
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From schrockk at ...137...  Fri Jun  6 06:59:08 2003
From: schrockk at ...137... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 00:59:08 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306060004.37694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306051500.34425.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306060004.37694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306060059.08138.schrockk@...137...>

Impressive from every angle, particularly speed completed
What other chunks do you currenly envision, if any?

On Friday 06 June 2003 12:04 am, Rob wrote:
> On Thursday 05 June 2003 19:46, Rob wrote:
> > I don't know whether it'll require a login to edit pages, but if it does,
> > GambasUser/GambasUser should do it.  I'm working on at least getting the
> > index by category working right this evening.
>
> I just got in under the wire.  See what you guys think of the "by category"
> index.
>
> http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasIndexByCategory
>
> If you don't like it, there's an edit button at the bottom of the page ;)
>
> username GambasUser password GambasUser
>
> Rob
>
>
>
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From jochen.georges at ...22...  Fri Jun  6 07:55:35 2003
From: jochen.georges at ...22... (Jochen Georges)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 07:55:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306060004.37694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306051500.34425.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306060004.37694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306060755.35076.jochen.georges@...22...>

On Friday 06 June 2003 06:04, Rob wrote:
> On Thursday 05 June 2003 19:46, Rob wrote:
> > I don't know whether it'll require a login to edit pages, but if it does,
> > GambasUser/GambasUser should do it.  I'm working on at least getting the
> > index by category working right this evening.
>
> I just got in under the wire.  See what you guys think of the "by category"
> index.
>
> http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasIndexByCategory
>
> If you don't like it, there's an edit button at the bottom of the page ;)
>
> username GambasUser password GambasUser
>
> Rob

wow, that's great!!
i will start first to set links to the easygambasdoku (and back) and later 
integrate the easygambasdokustuff in that wiki.

i wont add stuff to the easygambasdoku, because the wiki is much more powerful 
than a conventional html-page.
btw: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWikiWorks

in my opinion that wiki should become the central information-complex of 
gambas.

i would apreciate that only subscribed members can edit the wiki.
so one can see who changed which content.

rob, will you do the admin work for this wiki?

yipeah 
jochen











From jochen.georges at ...22...  Fri Jun  6 07:43:25 2003
From: jochen.georges at ...22... (Jochen Georges)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 07:43:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions
In-Reply-To: <3EDFC747.9010200@...9...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306060002.22941.gambas@...2...> <3EDFC747.9010200@...9...>
Message-ID: <200306060743.26009.jochen.georges@...22...>

On Friday 06 June 2003 00:42, Charlie wrote:
> Benoit Minisini schrieb:
> >Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 22:13, Charlie a ?crit :
> >>>Making a wiki is a great idea. If you do it, I will fill it !
> >>
> >>Jochen has a started wiki on his http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/
> >>go http://linuxwiki.de/Gambas
> >>
> >>and fill it with live.
> >>
> >>Charlie
> >
> >It is in german ? Is it possible to have an english-only wiki for gambas
> >documentation ?
>
> Salut,
>
> yes the first ( and only ) lines are in german and the site also,
> but if you have remaked it uses your browser languages for explications,
> why not talking english on it.
>
> Thats internet.
>
> I do not know who was starting this, Jochen ?
> And Jochen invents you also to talk english.
>
> I just have this questions here around, to whom who started that wiki ?

that was me

> - Is there a grand possibility using this wiki for a longer time ?

yes, i think so

> - Is it possible to make him a little more closed ( I mean a login, for
> signed up users etc.)

that is possible


beste gruesse
jochen




From jochen.georges at ...22...  Fri Jun  6 08:04:18 2003
From: jochen.georges at ...22... (Jochen Georges)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:04:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306060755.35076.jochen.georges@...22...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306060004.37694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306060755.35076.jochen.georges@...22...>
Message-ID: <200306060804.18508.jochen.georges@...22...>

On Friday 06 June 2003 07:55, Jochen Georges wrote:

> i wont add stuff to the easygambasdoku, because the wiki is much more
> powerful than a conventional html-page.
> btw: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWikiWorks


hi 
btw:
if you wonder, why i did not write the easygambasdoku in a wiki,
i know wiki just for a very short time now.
in the beginning i was a bit skeptical if it works.
and then my work changed.

now i see that in the new wiki is big bunch of good work done already, so it 
is a very good basis to work on.

beste gruesse
jochen



From jtloos03 at ...159...  Fri Jun  6 13:41:02 2003
From: jtloos03 at ...159... (Jay)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 04:41:02 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie Quetions on Gambas Wiki
Message-ID: <3EE07DCE.2030309@...159...>

Was looking at the tutorial and trying some of the examples. The 
examples I have tried work except for one and I was wondering why?

>' Gambas class file
>
>STATIC PUBLIC SUB Main()
>  DIM hform AS Fmain
>  hform = NEW Fmain
>  hform.show
>END
>
>PUBLIC SUB _new()
>  
>
> /*this clears the Drawing Area*/
>
>  da.Clear()
>  
>
> /* 'All the drawing activities have to be captioned by
> '   Draw.Begin(<DrawingArea>)
> '      and
> '   Draw.End
> */
>
>  Draw.Begin(da)
>    Draw.Rect(5, 5, 8, 9)
>    Draw.Ellipse(50, 50, 100, 100, 0, 50)
>  Draw.End
>END
>

I have version .57 or the latest version and I am under ELX Linux 2.0.
The code will work if I put it in a subroutine under left mouse click , 
run the program and push the left mouse button .  It is then the 2 
images show up.  They just don't draw themselves under the code above 
for some reason.
  Thanks for the help and the little tutorial to help get me going.  

>
>  
>





From schrockk at ...137...  Fri Jun  6 21:02:42 2003
From: schrockk at ...137... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:02:42 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Exec
Message-ID: <3EE0E552.5020404@...137...>

I need

pid = Exec "whatever"

Somewhere else

kill(pid)

Envisioned?
Workaround?

-- 
Using Lindows 





From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 18:39:14 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:39:14 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306060059.08138.schrockk@...137...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306060004.37694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306060059.08138.schrockk@...137...>
Message-ID: <200306061239.14964.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Friday 06 June 2003 00:59, Ken Schrock wrote:
> Impressive from every angle, particularly speed completed
> What other chunks do you currenly envision, if any?

The "How do I...." is a big missing part, and a lot of that can be filled in 
short term by linking to theeasygambasdoku (which I'll start working on today 
or over the weekend.)  I think maybe making tutorials out of one of the 
example apps might be a good thing too.  

But anything that anyone wants to add is as simple as hitting the edit link, 
adding a link to a page that doesn't exist and then clicking on that link 
when you're done editing.... don't be too afraid of messing up because all 
the revisions are tracked in RCS (as with most wikis.)

Rob





From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 19:35:16 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:35:16 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] another reason I love Gambas
Message-ID: <200306061335.16415.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

I just added all the documentation for all of the component class members to 
the wiki in about 10 minutes by hacking the Gambas IDE source to do most of 
the work for me ;)

In the FExplorer class I added

PUBLIC avc AS File

to the beginning and 

TRY KILL "/tmp/gambasdoc/" & aKey[1] & "." & akey[2] & ".txt"
TRY OPEN "/tmp/gambasdoc/" & aKey[1] & "." & akey[2] & ".txt" FOR CREATE AS 
#avc
TRY PRINT #avc, "<TABLE CELLPADDING=4 CELLSPACING=0 BORDER=0 BGCOLOR=#C0C0C0 
WIDTH=100%><TR><TD>" & sTitle & "</TD></TR></TABLE><BR>" & sDesc
TRY CLOSE #avc

to the end of the RefreshInfo sub in that class.  Then I hit F5, loaded a 
random project I had laying around, hit F2, and cursored through the entire 
list of component classes while it dumped HTML files for each class member to 
a directory in /tmp.  I paused after each component to move them into a 
subdirectory and when I was done, ran the following Perl script to integrate 
them with the class documentation I'd already extracted and wikify the lot (I 
would have used Gambas again but I don't know how to do regular expressions 
in Gambas ;) ):

#!/usr/bin/perl
for $f (`find`) {
    next if $f =~ m|/children/|;
    next if $f =~ m|/classes/|;
    next unless $f =~ /\.txt$/;
    chomp $f;
    $g = `cat $f`;
    $basename = $f;
    $basename =~ s/.txt$//;

    # convert filenames to wiki words
    $f =~ s/\//-/g;
    $f =~ s/^\.-//;
    $f =~ s/\[\]/Array/;
    $f =~ s/^gb-/GambasComponentGb/;
    $f =~ s/^gb.eval-/GambasComponentEval/;
    $f =~ s/^gb.db-/GambasComponentDb/;
    $f =~ s/^gb.qt-/GambasComponentQt/;
    $f =~ s/^gb.qt.ext-/GambasComponentQtExt/;
    $f =~ s/^gb.qt.kde-/GambasComponentQtKde/;
    $f =~ s/^gb.qt.editor-/GambasComponentQtEditor/;
    $f =~ s/\.//g;
    $f =~ s/txt$/.txt/;

    # convert HTML content to wiki text
    $g .= `cat children/$basename* 2>/dev/null`;
    $g =~ s/<i>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/i>/ _$1\_ /gi;
    $g =~ s/<b>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/b>/ \*$1\* /gi;
    $g =~ s/<h1>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/h1>/\n---+$1/is;
    $g =~ s/<h1>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/h1>/\n---++<nop>$1/gis;
    $g =~ s/<h2>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/h2>/\n---++<nop>$1/gsi;
    $g =~ s/<br>/\n/gsi;
    $g =~ s|/usr/lib/control|/gambas-wiki/images|gis;
    $g =~ s|<IMG SRC="img/16/finger.png">|\n   * |gis;
    $g =~ s/<\/?table.*?>/\n/gis;
    $g =~ s/<\/?font.*?>//gis;
    $g =~ s/<\/?tr.*?>/\n/gis;
    $g =~ s/<\/?td.*?>/\n/gis;
    $g =~ s/<p.*?>/\n\n/gis;
    $g =~ s/<h3>\n/\n/gis;
    $g =~ s/<h3>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/h3>/\n---+++<nop>$1/gi;
    $g =~ s/\n\n+/\n\n/gis;
    $g =~ s/^\n+//gis;
    $g =~ s/<\/h3>//gis;

    open OUT, ">fixed/$f";
    print OUT $g;
    close OUT;
    print "$f\n";
}

And finally I scp'ed the whole thing up to the wiki.  So now we have a 
searchable, easily updated reference to all the component class members in 
the same format as the rest of the language.

Try doing that in VB!

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 18:45:06 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:45:06 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Exec
In-Reply-To: <3EE0E552.5020404@...137...>
References: <3EE0E552.5020404@...137...>
Message-ID: <200306061236.23474.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Friday 06 June 2003 15:02, Ken Schrock wrote:
> I need
> pid = Exec "whatever"
> Somewhere else
> kill(pid)
> Envisioned?

Well, if you kill(pid) it'll try to delete a file named (the number of the 
pid).  It's still BASIC, remember ;)

Tried something like

dim px as Process
SHELL "whatever" AS px
(and then later)
px.Kill

maybe?

(In answering this mail I discovered a few missing things in the wiki, like, 
oh, all of the properties/methods for each class under the component section, 
there are a bunch of orphaned * and _ in most of the converted pages (they're 
equivalent to the <b> and <i> html tags) and EXEC is missing from the 
statements by category list.... well, guess there's more work to be done ;) )

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 19:52:27 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:52:27 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] links to The Easy Gambas Doku
Message-ID: <200306061352.27523.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

To get the "how do I..." section started I've linked to every Gambas-related 
tutorial page on Jochen's site.  Thanks Jochen!

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasHowtos




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 18:43:37 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:43:37 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306060755.35076.jochen.georges@...22...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306060004.37694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306060755.35076.jochen.georges@...22...>
Message-ID: <200306061243.37534.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Friday 06 June 2003 01:55, Jochen Georges wrote:
> in my opinion that wiki should become the central information-complex of
> gambas.

Thanks, that's heavy praise coming from someone who put together what's been 
the most useful Gambas documentation page so far ;)

> i would apreciate that only subscribed members can edit the wiki.
> so one can see who changed which content.

Not a bad idea, I added an account for myself as a test.  You can do the same 
but I haven't figured out how to automatically add accounts to the web 
server's .htpasswd file yet.  Maybe I need to make an "add password" CGI.

> rob, will you do the admin work for this wiki?

I already am actually ;)  Binara is the company I work for and own half of.  I 
put the wiki there rather than on kudla.org because kudla.org is running off 
of my cable modem and binara.com is on a T1 which should be more than enough 
for wiki work as long as I don't get slashdotted ;)

Rob




From Gambasfr at ...11...  Fri Jun  6 20:41:33 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:41:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Yep, a little change on FEditor.class
In-Reply-To: <200306042134.47212.gambas@...2...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306042124.59448.Gambasfr@...11...> <200306042134.47212.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306062041.33521.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 21:34, Benoit Minisini a ?crit :
> Le Mercredi 4 Juin 2003 21:24, Fabien a ?crit :
> > Salut
> >
> > if you have a middle button on your mouse :
> >
> > IF Button AND Mouse.Middle THEN
> >     CreateMenu
> >     mnuGoto.Popup
> > ENDIF
> >
> > at the line : 192, in fact in the edtEditor_MouseUp event of FEditor
> >
> > It's more practicle to go rapidly to a sub....
> >
> > Fabien
>
> For popup menus, you should use the Menu event instead of the MousePress
> event. This Menu event is raised when you hit the Windows keyboard menu
> key, not the MousePress event.
>
> It's better than VB :-)

Maybe but, i've don't see this event key anywhere... It's new for me..., hum I 
must to see better in the component explorer.!
yes, now gambas have lot of better thing than vb.
(it's not really difficult ;-) )
But gambas is not a vb !, (visual basic) but a gb!!! (Graphical basic), i 
prefer this terme, to stop all compare !


Fabien



From kschrock at ...149...  Sat Jun  7 00:52:26 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:52:26 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Exec
References: <3EE0E552.5020404@...137...> <200306061236.23474.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EE11B2A.6050200@...149...>

Ok, there is a whole section of docs I am missing
Where exactly do you find doc on .Kill ?

Benoit also talked about .Raise and .Watch
Which I also have no reference for

Rob wrote:

>On Friday 06 June 2003 15:02, Ken Schrock wrote:
>  
>
>>I need
>>pid = Exec "whatever"
>>Somewhere else
>>kill(pid)
>>Envisioned?
>>    
>>
>
>Well, if you kill(pid) it'll try to delete a file named (the number of the 
>pid).  It's still BASIC, remember ;)
>
>Tried something like
>
>dim px as Process
>SHELL "whatever" AS px
>(and then later)
>px.Kill
>
>maybe?
>
>(In answering this mail I discovered a few missing things in the wiki, like, 
>oh, all of the properties/methods for each class under the component section, 
>there are a bunch of orphaned * and _ in most of the converted pages (they're 
>equivalent to the <b> and <i> html tags) and EXEC is missing from the 
>statements by category list.... well, guess there's more work to be done ;) )
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
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>thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features
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From kschrock at ...149...  Sat Jun  7 00:52:46 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:52:46 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306060004.37694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306060059.08138.schrockk@...137...> <200306061239.14964.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EE11B3E.7030605@...149...>

Rob wrote:

>On Friday 06 June 2003 00:59, Ken Schrock wrote:
>  
>
>>Impressive from every angle, particularly speed completed
>>What other chunks do you currenly envision, if any?
>>    
>>
>The "How do I...." is a big missing part, and a lot of that can be filled in 
>short term by linking to theeasygambasdoku (which I'll start working on today 
>or over the weekend.)  I think maybe making tutorials out of one of the 
>example apps might be a good thing too.  
>
>But anything that anyone wants to add is as simple as hitting the edit link, 
>adding a link to a page that doesn't exist and then clicking on that link 
>when you're done editing.... don't be too afraid of messing up because all 
>the revisions are tracked in RCS (as with most wikis.)
>
I don't know if you noticed
But there is considerable sentiment here
To "limit" who can contribute to these things
(kind of runs counter to the idea of wiki, but oh well : -)

>
>Rob
>
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>This SF.net email is sponsored by:  Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best
>thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features
>you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com.
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From kschrock at ...149...  Sat Jun  7 01:12:20 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:12:20 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Exec
References: <3EE0E552.5020404@...137...> <200306061236.23474.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EE11FD4.5040206@...149...>

Rob wrote:

[snip]

>... equivalent to the <b> and <i> html tags) and EXEC is missing from the 
>statements by category list.... well, guess there's more work to be done ;) )
>
No, you have it, Exec is under Keywords -> Conditional/Flow

>
>Rob
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>This SF.net email is sponsored by:  Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best
>thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features
>you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com.
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From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 22:09:38 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 16:09:38 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Exec
In-Reply-To: <3EE11B2A.6050200@...149...>
References: <3EE0E552.5020404@...137...> <200306061236.23474.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE11B2A.6050200@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306061609.38224.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Friday 06 June 2003 18:52, Ken Schrock wrote:
> Ok, there is a whole section of docs I am missing
> Where exactly do you find doc on .Kill ?
> Benoit also talked about .Raise and .Watch
> Which I also have no reference for

Prior to this afternoon, the only place to find out about any component 
classes' member subs and functions was to look in Component Explorer, in this 
case under the "gb" component.  Now I've got them up on the wiki:

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasIndexByCategory#gb_Core_Classes

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasComponentGbProcess

That's what this is all about, getting all the documentation together in one 
searchable place.

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 22:12:59 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 16:12:59 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
Message-ID: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

I spent a little time making some imagemaps and I think I've put together the 
beginnings of a nice "what are all these windows and stuff" page.  Haven't 
gotten started describing all the elements of the main window yet, just the 
Gambas startup dialog.  See what you think:

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/VisualIntroductionToGambas

Rob




From kschrock at ...149...  Sat Jun  7 01:37:52 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:37:52 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Exec
References: <3EE0E552.5020404@...137...> <200306061236.23474.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE11B2A.6050200@...149...> <200306061609.38224.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EE125D0.5000304@...149...>

Whew, you had me worried there for a minute
It wasn't there when I looked earlier, before I wrote the note
Then just a few minutes ago I looked and at least .Kill was there
I thought I was having a rainbow flashback : -)

Rob wrote:

>On Friday 06 June 2003 18:52, Ken Schrock wrote:
>  
>
>>Ok, there is a whole section of docs I am missing
>>Where exactly do you find doc on .Kill ?
>>Benoit also talked about .Raise and .Watch
>>Which I also have no reference for
>>    
>>
>Prior to this afternoon, the only place to find out about any component 
>classes' member subs and functions was to look in Component Explorer, in this 
>case under the "gb" component.  Now I've got them up on the wiki:
>
>http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasIndexByCategory#gb_Core_Classes
>
>http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasComponentGbProcess
>
>That's what this is all about, getting all the documentation together in one 
>searchable place.
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>This SF.net email is sponsored by:  Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best
>thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features
>you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com.
>_______________________________________________
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From kschrock at ...149...  Sat Jun  7 01:42:37 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:42:37 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
References: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EE126ED.1060602@...149...>

My, if you're always this productive
I want to buy some stock in your company

Rob wrote:

>I spent a little time making some imagemaps and I think I've put together the 
>beginnings of a nice "what are all these windows and stuff" page.  Haven't 
>gotten started describing all the elements of the main window yet, just the 
>Gambas startup dialog.  See what you think:
>
>http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/VisualIntroductionToGambas
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>This SF.net email is sponsored by:  Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best
>thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features
>you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com.
>_______________________________________________
>Gambas-user mailing list
>Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>
>  
>





From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun  6 22:40:51 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 16:40:51 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
In-Reply-To: <3EE126ED.1060602@...149...>
References: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE126ED.1060602@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306061640.51394.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Friday 06 June 2003 19:42, Ken Schrock wrote:
> My, if you're always this productive
> I want to buy some stock in your company

I'm actually sick today, but when I get feverish I get compulsive ;)

Rob




From karl.reinl at ...9...  Sat Jun  7 00:16:39 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:16:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
References: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE126ED.1060602@...149...>
Message-ID: <3EE112C7.4050903@...9...>

Ken Schrock schrieb:

> My, if you're always this productive
> I want to buy some stock in your company
>
> Rob wrote:
>
>> I spent a little time making some imagemaps and I think I've put 
>> together the beginnings of a nice "what are all these windows and 
>> stuff" page.  Haven't gotten started describing all the elements of 
>> the main window yet, just the Gambas startup dialog.  See what you 
>> think:
>>
>> http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/VisualIntroductionToGambas 
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
Best demonstration what man and maschine can fit up in short time.
Concratulation Rob, that is a real good done job, using all tools 
possible to get it out quickly.

And thanks

Charlie

PS: uff, i'm impressed




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun  7 01:13:51 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 19:13:51 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306060003.56446.gambas@...2...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306050022.56645.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306060003.56446.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306061913.51694.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

Oh yeah, I missed this one...

On Thursday 05 June 2003 18:03, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > I can't figure out how to subclass TextLabel and add my own events, not
> > that I think it'd be possible in the first place to find out what word
> > you just clicked on, so I'm rolling my own using a Scrollview and lots of
> You will have a TextBrowser widget in the next version. It is like a
> TextLabel with scrollbars, link management, and browsing capabilities.

Yep, I've used Qt's TextBrowser in perl and c++.  Thank you very much!  Guess 
I'll put off the help browser for a version ;)

Rob




From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun  7 11:23:25 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 11:23:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <3EE11B3E.7030605@...149...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <200306061239.14964.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE11B3E.7030605@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306071123.25887.gambas@...2...>

Le Samedi 7 Juin 2003 00:52, Ken Schrock a ?crit :
> Rob wrote:
> >On Friday 06 June 2003 00:59, Ken Schrock wrote:
> >>Impressive from every angle, particularly speed completed
> >>What other chunks do you currenly envision, if any?
> >
> >The "How do I...." is a big missing part, and a lot of that can be filled
> > in short term by linking to theeasygambasdoku (which I'll start working
> > on today or over the weekend.)  I think maybe making tutorials out of one
> > of the example apps might be a good thing too.
> >
> >But anything that anyone wants to add is as simple as hitting the edit
> > link, adding a link to a page that doesn't exist and then clicking on
> > that link when you're done editing.... don't be too afraid of messing up
> > because all the revisions are tracked in RCS (as with most wikis.)
>
> I don't know if you noticed
> But there is considerable sentiment here
> To "limit" who can contribute to these things
> (kind of runs counter to the idea of wiki, but oh well : -)
>

I think we should not limit access to the gambas wiki, but we must know who 
has written what.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun  7 11:28:17 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 11:28:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] another reason I love Gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306061335.16415.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306061335.16415.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306071128.17258.gambas@...2...>

Le Vendredi 6 Juin 2003 19:35, Rob a ?crit :
> I just added all the documentation for all of the component class members
> to the wiki in about 10 minutes by hacking the Gambas IDE source to do most
> of the work for me ;)
>
> In the FExplorer class I added
>
> PUBLIC avc AS File
>
> to the beginning and
>
> TRY KILL "/tmp/gambasdoc/" & aKey[1] & "." & akey[2] & ".txt"
> TRY OPEN "/tmp/gambasdoc/" & aKey[1] & "." & akey[2] & ".txt" FOR CREATE AS
> #avc
> TRY PRINT #avc, "<TABLE CELLPADDING=4 CELLSPACING=0 BORDER=0
> BGCOLOR=#C0C0C0 WIDTH=100%><TR><TD>" & sTitle & "</TD></TR></TABLE><BR>" &
> sDesc
> TRY CLOSE #avc
>
> to the end of the RefreshInfo sub in that class.  Then I hit F5, loaded a
> random project I had laying around, hit F2, and cursored through the entire
> list of component classes while it dumped HTML files for each class member
> to a directory in /tmp.  I paused after each component to move them into a
> subdirectory and when I was done, ran the following Perl script to
> integrate them with the class documentation I'd already extracted and
> wikify the lot (I would have used Gambas again but I don't know how to do
> regular expressions in Gambas ;) ):

Why not making a gambas perl regular expression component ? :-)

>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> for $f (`find`) {
>     next if $f =~ m|/children/|;
>     next if $f =~ m|/classes/|;
>     next unless $f =~ /\.txt$/;
>     chomp $f;
>     $g = `cat $f`;
>     $basename = $f;
>     $basename =~ s/.txt$//;
>
>     # convert filenames to wiki words
>     $f =~ s/\//-/g;
>     $f =~ s/^\.-//;
>     $f =~ s/\[\]/Array/;
>     $f =~ s/^gb-/GambasComponentGb/;
>     $f =~ s/^gb.eval-/GambasComponentEval/;
>     $f =~ s/^gb.db-/GambasComponentDb/;
>     $f =~ s/^gb.qt-/GambasComponentQt/;
>     $f =~ s/^gb.qt.ext-/GambasComponentQtExt/;
>     $f =~ s/^gb.qt.kde-/GambasComponentQtKde/;
>     $f =~ s/^gb.qt.editor-/GambasComponentQtEditor/;
>     $f =~ s/\.//g;
>     $f =~ s/txt$/.txt/;
>
>     # convert HTML content to wiki text
>     $g .= `cat children/$basename* 2>/dev/null`;
>     $g =~ s/<i>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/i>/ _$1\_ /gi;
>     $g =~ s/<b>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/b>/ \*$1\* /gi;
>     $g =~ s/<h1>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/h1>/\n---+$1/is;
>     $g =~ s/<h1>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/h1>/\n---++<nop>$1/gis;
>     $g =~ s/<h2>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/h2>/\n---++<nop>$1/gsi;
>     $g =~ s/<br>/\n/gsi;
>     $g =~ s|/usr/lib/control|/gambas-wiki/images|gis;
>     $g =~ s|<IMG SRC="img/16/finger.png">|\n   * |gis;
>     $g =~ s/<\/?table.*?>/\n/gis;
>     $g =~ s/<\/?font.*?>//gis;
>     $g =~ s/<\/?tr.*?>/\n/gis;
>     $g =~ s/<\/?td.*?>/\n/gis;
>     $g =~ s/<p.*?>/\n\n/gis;
>     $g =~ s/<h3>\n/\n/gis;
>     $g =~ s/<h3>\s*(.+?)\s*<\/h3>/\n---+++<nop>$1/gi;
>     $g =~ s/\n\n+/\n\n/gis;
>     $g =~ s/^\n+//gis;
>     $g =~ s/<\/h3>//gis;
>
>     open OUT, ">fixed/$f";
>     print OUT $g;
>     close OUT;
>     print "$f\n";
> }
>
> And finally I scp'ed the whole thing up to the wiki.  So now we have a
> searchable, easily updated reference to all the component class members in
> the same format as the rest of the language.
>
> Try doing that in VB!
>
> Rob
>

Now I understand why I didn't see the symbol help in the wiki...

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun  7 11:47:39 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 11:47:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306071147.39119.gambas@...2...>

Le Vendredi 6 Juin 2003 22:12, Rob a ?crit :
> I spent a little time making some imagemaps and I think I've put together
> the beginnings of a nice "what are all these windows and stuff" page. 
> Haven't gotten started describing all the elements of the main window yet,
> just the Gambas startup dialog.  See what you think:
>
> http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/VisualIntroductionToGamba
>s
>
> Rob
>

Your job made me very impressed and happy :-)

Is it possible to change the page header and footer ? (this yellow background 
is...hum)

Is is possible to modify your filter so that:
- Symbols descriptions are their own pages 
- OR all symbols of a class are on one page, but there is an index on the top 
of the page.

Is it possible to mark all pages generated by your filter, so that everybody 
knows that this page should not be modified ?
OR to change your filter, so that it keeps modifications made by other users ? 
Maybe it is impossible...

I will add a link on the web site as soon as possible.

Thanks, it is a great job :-)

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun  7 11:50:19 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 11:50:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306071150.19765.gambas@...2...>

Le Vendredi 6 Juin 2003 22:12, Rob a ?crit :
> I spent a little time making some imagemaps and I think I've put together
> the beginnings of a nice "what are all these windows and stuff" page. 
> Haven't gotten started describing all the elements of the main window yet,
> just the Gambas startup dialog.  See what you think:
>
> http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/VisualIntroductionToGamba
>s
>
> Rob
>
>

Another remark, Rob,

You shoud not remove the point from the virtual class names in the index, like 
".ComboBoxItem", because this point shows that this class is not a real 
class. Maybe you could add a symbol too, so that these virtual classes are 
more visible.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun  7 14:40:58 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:40:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
Message-ID: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>

Hello Suse 8.2, RedHat and Gentoo users,

I have made a new pre-version of gambas here:

http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre2.tar.gz

Could you download it and compile it ?

It should compile, the IDE should run, and should crash if you try to create a 
project using the KDE component.

Tell me if I'm right or wrong,

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From schrockk at ...137...  Sat Jun  7 16:19:32 2003
From: schrockk at ...137... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 10:19:32 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
Message-ID: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...>

Rob

I think you are right about not being able to retrofit version change info now
It would probably be impossible to do NEW for VER .xx or VER .xx CHNG now

However, I think these docs need to be marked version 0.57
And some method is needed to track version changes in the future
Because 0.53 -> 0.57 seems pretty major and breaks things
(my 0.53 can't run many of your 0.57 example things)
And packages, particularly binary ones, live forever

Have you done a browser check on this?
Some of the fonts on some of the pages 
Are really HUGE in some browsers

I see a lot of things like _Example_ that seem odd
Were the underscores intentional or conversion errors?

How about the VB DIFF icon at the top of the page idea?

Would you like me to do anything, and if so what?

-- 
Using Lindows



From Gambasfr at ...11...  Sat Jun  7 17:34:42 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Gamby)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:34:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071150.19765.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306071150.19765.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306071734.42374.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Samedi 7 Juin 2003 11:50, Benoit Minisini a ?crit :
> Le Vendredi 6 Juin 2003 22:12, Rob a ?crit :
> > I spent a little time making some imagemaps and I think I've put together
> > the beginnings of a nice "what are all these windows and stuff" page.
> > Haven't gotten started describing all the elements of the main window
> > yet, just the Gambas startup dialog.  See what you think:
> >
> > http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/VisualIntroductionToGam
> >ba s
> >
> > Rob
>
> Another remark, Rob,
>
> You shoud not remove the point from the virtual class names in the index,
> like ".ComboBoxItem", because this point shows that this class is not a
> real class. Maybe you could add a symbol too, so that these virtual classes
> are more visible.


Congratuation....
You've made a good job Rob !
but look a this erro ;)
http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasNEW
hButton = NEW Button AS "MyButton"<BR>...

<BR>PUBLIC PROCEDURE MyButton_Click()<BR><BR>  PRINT "My button was clicked 
!"<BR><BR>END

 Don't use the <br> tag under <pre> one !

<pre> display the text as it is !

Fabien

For the color, maybe see at http://abidoo.too.free.fr or 
http://gambas.family.free.fr in two hours



 

 



From bernard.pre at ...62...  Sat Jun  7 18:31:58 2003
From: bernard.pre at ...62... (Bernard PRE)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 18:31:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPEEHLCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>

hi,
this vesion dont't compile on redhat 9

qptrlist.h no such file or directory

==> identifier undeclared

Bernard

-----Message d'origine-----
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Minisini
Envoye : samedi 7 juin 2003 14:41
A : gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Objet : [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas


Hello Suse 8.2, RedHat and Gentoo users,

I have made a new pre-version of gambas here:

http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre2.tar.gz

Could you download it and compile it ?

It should compile, the IDE should run, and should crash if you try to create
a
project using the KDE component.

Tell me if I'm right or wrong,

Regards,

--
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...


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From cmcpero at ...142...  Sat Jun  7 20:38:12 2003
From: cmcpero at ...142... (Jean-Francois Perreault)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:38:12 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EE23114.4010606@...142...>

Hi,

It does compile and finish "make install" with no error
but the IDE doesn't start , I get segfault at startup

I included the output of strace

Benoit Minisini wrote:

>Hello Suse 8.2, RedHat and Gentoo users,
>
>I have made a new pre-version of gambas here:
>
>http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre2.tar.gz
>
>Could you download it and compile it ?
>
>It should compile, the IDE should run, and should crash if you try to create a 
>project using the KDE component.
>
>Tell me if I'm right or wrong,
>
>Regards,
>
>  
>


-- 
--------------------
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NanoTech Informatique

UIN 783056
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From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun  7 20:41:43 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:41:43 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] another reason I love Gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071128.17258.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306061335.16415.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306071128.17258.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306071441.43654.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:28, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Why not making a gambas perl regular expression component ? :-)

Unfortunately, I don't know how to do regular expressions in C either ;)

I've done them in Javascript and Tcl (and obviously perl) but that's about it.

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun  7 20:53:31 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:53:31 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071147.39119.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306071147.39119.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306071453.31395.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:47, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Is it possible to change the page header and footer ? (this yellow
> background is...hum)

Yeah, everything is tweakable via "skins" which are a mix of perl and html.  I 
tend to surf using Galeon's "use my own colors" setting so I never noticed 
before ;)  There are other TWiki defaults that I could do without, like the 
list of webs (my company might add other webs eventually but I would rather 
Gambas had a wiki all to itself to avoid confusing Gambas users) and the 
"Offices" link, but I'd love to hear feedback from other people as to what 
other stylistic changes to make.  I'll start by simply making that yellow 
stuff white.

You can also view any page in printer friendly format by adding ?skin=plain to 
the end (the "printable" link at the bottom doesn't completely get rid of the 
headers and footers.)  I plan to make a set of HTML files for use with the 
help browser I mean to contribute, by navigating the entire web using a Perl 
script and appending ?skin=plain to each URL.  The links between all the 
pages should all still be maintained.

> Is is possible to modify your filter so that:
> - Symbols descriptions are their own pages
> - OR all symbols of a class are on one page, but there is an index on the
> top of the page.

The latter would require one line of changed code.  I'll do that this 
afternoon.  Maybe I should list all the symbols within each class on the 
index by category page as well, though that may not be quite so automated.  
Ultimately I may need to break the index by category page into pages for each 
category but maintain the whole index by means of the Wiki %INCLUDE tag.  
That'll be better for keeping stuff categorized (currently every single 
language related page is linked to by the index by name and index by 
category) but for now I guess I'm still figuring out the structure.

> Is it possible to mark all pages generated by your filter, so that
> everybody knows that this page should not be modified ?
> OR to change your filter, so that it keeps modifications made by other
> users ? Maybe it is impossible...

I can mark those pages such that they're only editable by the administrator 
group (currently that's just me) but I don't know if I can do that without 
having some Set Variablename = Somegroupname thing on every such page.

> I will add a link on the web site as soon as possible.
> Thanks, it is a great job :-)

Glad you like it, hoping it can form the base for a great Gambas doc system ;)

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun  7 20:54:12 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:54:12 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071150.19765.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306071150.19765.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306071454.12574.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:50, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> You shoud not remove the point from the virtual class names in the index,
> like ".ComboBoxItem", because this point shows that this class is not a
> real class. Maybe you could add a symbol too, so that these virtual classes
> are more visible.

Oops, that must have been a typo in one of my scripts.  I'll find the relevant 
classes and fix them.

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun  7 21:01:47 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:01:47 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
In-Reply-To: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...>
References: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...>
Message-ID: <200306071501.47865.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 10:19, Ken Schrock wrote:
> Have you done a browser check on this?
> Some of the fonts on some of the pages
> Are really HUGE in some browsers

Yes, that's a problem with how the wiki handles table tags from the code.  I 
started going through and converting them to Wiki tables last night, made it 
through all of the "Language concepts" pages but I'm sure there are lots more 
where that came from.

Apart from that, to use automatic table of contents generation (on the pages 
with more than one item on them) you need to use the H1/H2/H3 etc. tags and 
it wouldn't surprise me if H1 used quite a large font on some people's 
browsers.  On mine it's like a 20 point font but I'll try to check them out 
on some other browsers.  (I don't really have access to IE here for example 
though.  I guess I could try to run it through Crossover.)

> I see a lot of things like _Example_ that seem odd
> Were the underscores intentional or conversion errors?

Conversion errors.... I didn't realize it at the time, but in the wiki to make 
something italic you need (space)_something_(space) and there were a lot of 
errant HTML tags in there which screwed that up.  I deleted all those with 
some more regular expressions last night but again I'm sure there are more 
examples of that and I'll have to find them manually.  Or anyone who finds 
them can correct them ;)  Though probably not with the component class 
symbols since it seems I'll be generating them from Benoit's documentation 
for the foreseeable future.

> How about the VB DIFF icon at the top of the page idea?
> Would you like me to do anything, and if so what?

Well, that VB DIFF thing will be entirely manual and requires someone with 
expertise in both VB and Gambas, so you're welcome to start doing that.  I'll 
try adding a (name of page)VBDiff link to all the pages at some point (I'll 
post and email you when I have) and you can start clicking on them and 
creating pages for those differences.  Eventually maybe I can turn those 
links to %INCLUDE statements with entries in the table of contents for each 
page.

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun  7 21:03:47 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:03:47 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual intro to gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071734.42374.Gambasfr@...11...>
References: <200306061612.59154.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306071150.19765.gambas@...2...> <200306071734.42374.Gambasfr@...11...>
Message-ID: <200306071503.47314.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 11:34, Gamby wrote:
> <BR>PUBLIC PROCEDURE MyButton_Click()<BR><BR>  PRINT "My button was clicked
> !"<BR><BR>END
>  Don't use the <br> tag under <pre> one !
> <pre> display the text as it is !

I'm actually using the wiki <verbatim> tag for code examples, and I should 
have converted all <BR>'s between <verbatim> tags to linefeeds.  I'll try and 
put something together to do that today.

> For the color, maybe see at http://abidoo.too.free.fr or
> http://gambas.family.free.fr in two hours

Thanks, I'll take a look :)  I have errands to do this afternoon so I may not 
get to all these changes, but I mean to at least get started.  

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun  7 21:08:04 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:08:04 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPEEHLCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>
References: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPEEHLCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>
Message-ID: <200306071508.04224.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 12:31, Bernard PRE wrote:
> this vesion dont't compile on redhat 9
> qptrlist.h no such file or directory
> ==> identifier undeclared

Do you have the qt3-devel (or equivalent) package installed?

I think rpm -q --whatprovides qt3-devel should tell you.  (Unless Redhat has 
just named it qt-devel in which case remove the 3.)

Rob




From girardhenri at ...67...  Sat Jun  7 22:04:00 2003
From: girardhenri at ...67... (HG)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:04:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
References: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPEEHLCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...> <200306071508.04224.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <BAY8-DAV597wwU2kPhZ00011f84@...67...>

I got the same problem on RH 9
I test if qt3 and I got qt 3.1.1...
In fact there is a in moc_qeditor.cpp:16:
qeditor.h:318: syntax error before '*' token
HG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...>
To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas


On Saturday 07 June 2003 12:31, Bernard PRE wrote:
> this vesion dont't compile on redhat 9
> qptrlist.h no such file or directory
> ==> identifier undeclared

Do you have the qt3-devel (or equivalent) package installed?

I think rpm -q --whatprovides qt3-devel should tell you.  (Unless Redhat has
just named it qt-devel in which case remove the 3.)

Rob



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From Gambasfr at ...11...  Sat Jun  7 22:10:51 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Gamby)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:10:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] another reason I love Gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071441.43654.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306061335.16415.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306071128.17258.gambas@...2...> <200306071441.43654.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306072210.51674.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Samedi 7 Juin 2003 20:41, Rob a ?crit :
> On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:28, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > Why not making a gambas perl regular expression component ? :-)
>
> Unfortunately, I don't know how to do regular expressions in C either ;)
>
> I've done them in Javascript and Tcl (and obviously perl) but that's about
> it.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
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	 think it's possible to implement the qt one, ... in the qt.ext, but it will 
be better if the component is free of qt or gtk.

Fabien

Maybe we can found some exemple in php source no?



From kschrock at ...149...  Sun Jun  8 03:38:21 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 18:38:21 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
References: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...> <200306071501.47865.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EE2938D.4080506@...149...>

Rob wrote:

[snip]

>Well, that VB DIFF thing will be entirely manual and requires someone with 
>expertise in both VB and Gambas, so you're welcome to start doing that.  I'll 
>try adding a (name of page)VBDiff link to all the pages at some point (I'll 
>post and email you when I have) and you can start clicking on them and 
>creating pages for those differences.  Eventually maybe I can turn those 
>links to %INCLUDE statements with entries in the table of contents for each 
>page.
>
I haven't used VB for years (VB 4 was the last I had) so not much help there
But no reason I couldn't add flags and explanations as others suggest them
Is a graphic\icon\flag possible on wiki and allowed\acceptable\liked or not?

Candidates:
 !vb1 !vb2 ivb3 ivb4

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>
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From Gambasfr at ...11...  Sun Jun  8 01:45:13 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Gamby)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:45:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
In-Reply-To: <3EE2938D.4080506@...149...>
References: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...> <200306071501.47865.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE2938D.4080506@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306080145.13317.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Dimanche 8 Juin 2003 03:38, Ken Schrock a ?crit :
> Rob wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >Well, that VB DIFF thing will be entirely manual and requires someone with
> >expertise in both VB and Gambas, so you're welcome to start doing that. 
> > I'll try adding a (name of page)VBDiff link to all the pages at some
> > point (I'll post and email you when I have) and you can start clicking on
> > them and creating pages for those differences.  Eventually maybe I can
> > turn those links to %INCLUDE statements with entries in the table of
> > contents for each page.
>
> I haven't used VB for years (VB 4 was the last I had) so not much help
> there But no reason I couldn't add flags and explanations as others suggest
> them Is a graphic\icon\flag possible on wiki and allowed\acceptable\liked
> or not?
>
> Candidates:
>  !vb1 !vb2 ivb3 ivb4
>
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >
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> >you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com.
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Hi
And now there is vb6 an vb.net
vb.net is really diff?rent than vb6. Gambas like a vb6 but have a synthaxe who 
look like the vb.net one for the class d?claration.
In fact there is not lot actually lot of people who really know vb.net.
I'm an ex vb4 an vb6 programmer, there is not great diff?rence betwin this too 
linguages.

Fabien



From kschrock at ...149...  Sun Jun  8 06:17:12 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:17:12 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
References: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...> <200306071501.47865.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE2938D.4080506@...149...> <200306080145.13317.Gambasfr@...11...>
Message-ID: <3EE2B8C8.3020604@...149...>

Is there a simple function, method, etc. doc still?
(There use to be a text file with it)

Gamby wrote:

>Le Dimanche 8 Juin 2003 03:38, Ken Schrock a ?crit :
>  
>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>Well, that VB DIFF thing will be entirely manual and requires someone with
>>>expertise in both VB and Gambas, so you're welcome to start doing that. 
>>>I'll try adding a (name of page)VBDiff link to all the pages at some
>>>point (I'll post and email you when I have) and you can start clicking on
>>>them and creating pages for those differences.  Eventually maybe I can
>>>turn those links to %INCLUDE statements with entries in the table of
>>>contents for each page.
>>>      
>>>
>>I haven't used VB for years (VB 4 was the last I had) so not much help
>>there But no reason I couldn't add flags and explanations as others suggest
>>them Is a graphic\icon\flag possible on wiki and allowed\acceptable\liked
>>or not?
>>
>>Candidates:
>> !vb1 !vb2 ivb3 ivb4
>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>      
>>>
>
>Hi
>And now there is vb6 an vb.net
>vb.net is really diff?rent than vb6. Gambas like a vb6 but have a synthaxe who 
>look like the vb.net one for the class d?claration.
>In fact there is not lot actually lot of people who really know vb.net.
>I'm an ex vb4 an vb6 programmer, there is not great diff?rence betwin this too 
>linguages.
>
>Fabien
>
>
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From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sun Jun  8 04:59:47 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:59:47 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
In-Reply-To: <3EE2B8C8.3020604@...149...>
References: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...> <200306080145.13317.Gambasfr@...11...> <3EE2B8C8.3020604@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306072259.47004.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Sunday 08 June 2003 00:17, Ken Schrock wrote:
> Is there a simple function, method, etc. doc still?
> (There use to be a text file with it)

Last time I used VB6, you had to pretty much install MSDN to get the VB docs 
and access them a page at a time through the MSDN browser.  Then it always 
seemed that some random piece of documentation (for the database components, 
for example) would have never been installed and it'd be a huge pain in the 
butt to add it without reinstalling VB and/or MSDN.  I kinda hated it and 
wanted to make something a little less retarded.  

Ultimately, I'd like to see a localized, automatically cleaned up snapshot of 
the wiki with full text and comcept/keyword search capabilities to be the 
underlying data for whatever help browser program we come up with.  Something 
similar to but far more flexible and less annoying than the win98/NT4 help 
browser, maybe.  (You know, the one with the three tabs.... display all 
concepts alphabetically, search for keywords, and full text search.)

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sun Jun  8 04:53:05 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:53:05 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
In-Reply-To: <3EE2938D.4080506@...149...>
References: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...> <200306071501.47865.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE2938D.4080506@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306072253.05014.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 21:38, Ken Schrock wrote:
> I haven't used VB for years (VB 4 was the last I had) so not much help
> there But no reason I couldn't add flags and explanations as others suggest
> them Is a graphic\icon\flag possible on wiki and allowed\acceptable\liked
> or not?
> Candidates:
>  !vb1 !vb2 ivb3 ivb4

Well, there's no reason you can't upload a "differences from VB" icon (I'd 
suggest creating a "Gambas for VB users" page and the first time you view it, 
hit the "Attach" link at the bottom and upload a simple graphic) but I'd be 
careful about codifying too much VB version-specific stuff.  I think rather 
than being an exhaustive "every possible difference from every VB version" we 
would just want something like what I did here:

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasSHELL

Instead of ( VB Diff ) at the end of the first line we'd want whatever icon we 
come up with.

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sun Jun  8 07:19:15 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:19:15 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
In-Reply-To: <200306072253.05014.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...> <3EE2938D.4080506@...149...> <200306072253.05014.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306080119.15684.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 22:53, Rob wrote:
> On Saturday 07 June 2003 21:38, Ken Schrock wrote:
> >  !vb1 !vb2 ivb3 ivb4
> Instead of ( VB Diff ) at the end of the first line we'd want whatever icon
> we come up with.

And then I found the images you'd attached to your email, and picked one.  
It's out there now (and I created a "VB Differences" page which will 
automagically list all of these migration notes as we create them.)

Rob




From kschrock at ...149...  Sun Jun  8 13:32:47 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 04:32:47 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
References: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...> <200306071501.47865.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE2938D.4080506@...149...> <200306072253.05014.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EE31EDF.1070804@...149...>

I think that is exactly perfect as it is there
As far as the "every possible difference" thing goes
I think we could rely on the list to give the major places
Where VB users trip, and then ask questions or complain
To doc the important things, exhaustive isn't necessary

Rob wrote:

>On Saturday 07 June 2003 21:38, Ken Schrock wrote:
>  
>
>>I haven't used VB for years (VB 4 was the last I had) so not much help
>>there But no reason I couldn't add flags and explanations as others suggest
>>them Is a graphic\icon\flag possible on wiki and allowed\acceptable\liked
>>or not?
>>Candidates:
>> !vb1 !vb2 ivb3 ivb4
>>    
>>
>
>Well, there's no reason you can't upload a "differences from VB" icon (I'd 
>suggest creating a "Gambas for VB users" page and the first time you view it, 
>hit the "Attach" link at the bottom and upload a simple graphic) but I'd be 
>careful about codifying too much VB version-specific stuff.  I think rather 
>than being an exhaustive "every possible difference from every VB version" we 
>would just want something like what I did here:
>
>http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasSHELL
>
>Instead of ( VB Diff ) at the end of the first line we'd want whatever icon we 
>come up with.
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
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>thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features
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From kschrock at ...149...  Sun Jun  8 13:44:36 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 04:44:36 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] docs
References: <200306071019.32227.schrockk@...137...> <200306080145.13317.Gambasfr@...11...> <3EE2B8C8.3020604@...149...> <200306072259.47004.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EE321A4.10405@...149...>

I still use the NT 3.1 beta SDK and Win95 beta SDK docs
(when absolutely necessary, not often anymore)
As all the later ones were so very ugly

But VB, at one time (1.0 to ???)
Had two text files, one with Win API declares
And one with declares of all the VB functions and methods
Would be nice to have something like that here for this
But again, I don't  know how much VB's changed


Rob wrote:

>On Sunday 08 June 2003 00:17, Ken Schrock wrote:
>  
>
>>Is there a simple function, method, etc. doc still?
>>(There use to be a text file with it)
>>    
>>
>Last time I used VB6, you had to pretty much install MSDN to get the VB docs 
>and access them a page at a time through the MSDN browser.  Then it always 
>seemed that some random piece of documentation (for the database components, 
>for example) would have never been installed and it'd be a huge pain in the 
>butt to add it without reinstalling VB and/or MSDN.  I kinda hated it and 
>wanted to make something a little less retarded.  
>
>Ultimately, I'd like to see a localized, automatically cleaned up snapshot of 
>the wiki with full text and comcept/keyword search capabilities to be the 
>underlying data for whatever help browser program we come up with.  Something 
>similar to but far more flexible and less annoying than the win98/NT4 help 
>browser, maybe.  (You know, the one with the three tabs.... display all 
>concepts alphabetically, search for keywords, and full text search.)
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>This SF.net email is sponsored by:  Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best
>thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features
>you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com.
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From gambas at ...2...  Sun Jun  8 11:20:30 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:20:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <3EE23114.4010606@...142...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...> <3EE23114.4010606@...142...>
Message-ID: <200306081120.30190.gambas@...2...>

Le Samedi 7 Juin 2003 20:38, Jean-Francois Perreault a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> It does compile and finish "make install" with no error
> but the IDE doesn't start , I get segfault at startup
>
> I included the output of strace
>

Argh ! :-(

I prefer the output of gdb, and the stack backtrace, to know where it crashes.

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun  7 21:55:24 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:55:24 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas help files
In-Reply-To: <200306071123.25887.gambas@...2...>
References: <3EDD148A.7000802@...137...> <3EE11B3E.7030605@...149...> <200306071123.25887.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306071555.24494.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 05:23, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> I think we should not limit access to the gambas wiki, but we must know who
> has written what.

I agree.  To that end I've set up the wiki so that it can manage users and 
passwords directly.  I put a link to register for a username/password on the 
front page, and from that page you can change or reset your password as well.  
Please let me know if anyone has troubles with it.

Benoit and Jochen, since so much of the wiki depends upon your existing 
documentation please let me know if you'd like me to add you to the admin 
group after you've set yourself up accounts.

Rob




From karl.reinl at ...9...  Sun Jun  8 12:57:17 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 12:57:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How about Mandrake 9, x86 or PPC, SuSe 7.3, Yellow Dog (3.x I think)
References: <3EE23A88.6000207@...137...> <200306071506.53244.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE28E44.3050602@...137...>
Message-ID: <3EE3168D.8040501@...9...>

Ken Schrock schrieb:

> Rob wrote:
>
>>On Saturday 07 June 2003 15:18, Ken Schrock wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>I also have Mandrake version 8.2 on this machine
>>>Will the 0.57 source compile ok there?
>>>    
>>>
>>I think Gambas might require Qt 3 and I think 8.2 was still back on Qt 2.1.
>>
> How about Mandrake 9, x86 or PPC, SuSe 7.3, Yellow Dog (3.x I think)
> I also have a new version of Lycoris but couldn't get it installed on 
> anything
>
Salut Ken,

for SuSe 7.3 it should work,
I ran a full updated ( at 01/30/2003) SuSE 7.2 with KDE 2.2.2  and 
qt-3.0.5 (downloaded from trolltech and installed like they say )

And gambas-0.57 comp. without KDE (need 3 or > ) and without pgsql (is 
not installed)

I had a try with qt-3.1.2 but gambas compilation failed, I think that 
failer commes from the 2.95.3  gcc.
With qt-3.1.2  on a SuSE 8.0 I had the same failer , using also 2.95.3 
of  gcc.

I din't find a gcc > 3.0.2 for SuSE 7.2 but if I remember well I saw it 
for 7.3 at gcc site.

amicalement
Charlie











From kschrock at ...149...  Sun Jun  8 20:18:58 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 11:18:58 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] How about Mandrake 9, x86 or PPC, SuSe 7.3, Yellow
 Dog (3.x I think)
References: <3EE23A88.6000207@...137...> <200306071506.53244.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <3EE28E44.3050602@...137...> <3EE3168D.8040501@...9...>
Message-ID: <3EE37E12.20900@...149...>

Charlie wrote:

> Salut Ken,
>
> for SuSe 7.3 it should work,
> I ran a full updated ( at 01/30/2003) SuSE 7.2 with KDE 2.2.2  and 
> qt-3.0.5 (downloaded from trolltech and installed like they say )
>
> And gambas-0.57 comp. without KDE (need 3 or > ) and without pgsql (is 
> not installed)
>
> I had a try with qt-3.1.2 but gambas compilation failed, I think that 
> failer commes from the 2.95.3  gcc.
> With qt-3.1.2  on a SuSE 8.0 I had the same failer , using also 2.95.3 
> of  gcc.
>
> I din't find a gcc > 3.0.2 for SuSE 7.2 but if I remember well I saw 
> it for 7.3 at gcc site. 

SuSe 7.3 wouldn't boot on here as both hda2 and hdb2 are above the 8 gig 
line
I will install it on the notebook and try things out there
Thanks

> amicalement
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features
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From karl.reinl at ...9...  Sun Jun  8 21:35:38 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 21:35:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the IDE
Message-ID: <3EE3900A.1080604@...9...>

Salut Benoit,

1.
I work with  2 Screens
and allways if I hade worked last with second screen.
Start next time working on the first the debug window is on his right 
place, but closing this
The Pos for FDebug in .gambas  =-4,-20

 From now on I have still access to the buttons , but moving it I have 
to use right-click/move.

But for easier work I think it will be nice not to store Window Pos less 
then 0.

2.
The IDE crash without any Message, if you copy componente to second 
Project, where the lib is not used.

3.
If accedently you have deleted the NAME of an component, the project, 
will not run with F5, but don'T say anything about that.

4.
Sometimes the IDE crash after choosing a project ( in open a ..)

5.
a attached you a File in which I close all open windows from the IDE, I 
find this very usefull after a long debuging or search .
I close all windows, let the AktiveForm open would be better.


amicalement
Charlie



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From bsnipes at ...21...  Mon Jun  9 00:05:50 2003
From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes)
Date: 08 Jun 2003 17:05:50 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <1055109950.3392.2.camel@...73...>

Installs and runs perfectly on Gentoo (with current QT, KDE, MySQL and
PostgreSQL).
Any chance of getting the Gentoo paths for KDE libraries and includes
added to the configure script?  My paths are:
/usr/kde/3.1/lib
/usr/kde/3.1/include

Brian

On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 07:40, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Hello Suse 8.2, RedHat and Gentoo users,
> 
> I have made a new pre-version of gambas here:
> 
> http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre2.tar.gz
> 
> Could you download it and compile it ?
> 
> It should compile, the IDE should run, and should crash if you try to create a 
> project using the KDE component.
> 
> Tell me if I'm right or wrong,
> 
> Regards,




From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 09:59:23 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:59:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <1055109950.3392.2.camel@...73...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...> <1055109950.3392.2.camel@...73...>
Message-ID: <200306090959.23976.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 00:05, Brian Snipes a ?crit :
> Installs and runs perfectly on Gentoo (with current QT, KDE, MySQL and
> PostgreSQL).

Wow ! Great news :-)
But why does it not work for Jean-Fran?ois ??

> Any chance of getting the Gentoo paths for KDE libraries and includes
> added to the configure script?  My paths are:
> /usr/kde/3.1/lib
> /usr/kde/3.1/include

I think I will use kde-config to deal with KDE paths, because there are too 
many differences between distributions.

>
> Brian
>

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 10:05:53 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:05:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the IDE
In-Reply-To: <3EE3900A.1080604@...9...>
References: <3EE3900A.1080604@...9...>
Message-ID: <200306091005.53173.gambas@...2...>

Le Dimanche 8 Juin 2003 21:35, Charlie a ?crit :
> Salut Benoit,
>
> 1.
> I work with  2 Screens
> and allways if I hade worked last with second screen.
> Start next time working on the first the debug window is on his right
> place, but closing this
> The Pos for FDebug in .gambas  =-4,-20
>
>  From now on I have still access to the buttons , but moving it I have
> to use right-click/move.
>
> But for easier work I think it will be nice not to store Window Pos less
> then 0.

Sorry Charlie, I don't really understand what you mean exactly ?
But I'm not surprised if they are problems with windows positions, as QT 
manages them in a very strange manner, if not buggy :-). I had to workaround 
this management when the window is hidden in gambas sources.

>
> 2.
> The IDE crash without any Message, if you copy componente to second
> Project, where the lib is not used.

The component management in the IDE is badly designed, and I must redo it.

>
> 3.
> If accedently you have deleted the NAME of an component, the project,
> will not run with F5, but don'T say anything about that.

What do you mean by that ?

>
> 4.
> Sometimes the IDE crash after choosing a project ( in open a ..)
>

Is it reproduceable ?

> 5.
> a attached you a File in which I close all open windows from the IDE, I
> find this very usefull after a long debuging or search .

You are right, I should do the same thing than VB.

> I close all windows, let the AktiveForm open would be better.
>
>
> amicalement
> Charlie
>
>
>
> Charlie

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116...  Mon Jun  9 11:11:39 2003
From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 11:11:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306091111.39546.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>

On Saturday 07 June 2003 02:40 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote:

> It should compile, the IDE should run, and should crash if you try to
> create a project using the KDE component.

SuSE 8.2 compiles and installs just fine, but when I try to run it, it gives 
me out an segmentation error...

-- 
Radoslav Dejanovi?
Operacijski sustavi d.o.o.     http://www.opsus.hr



From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 12:39:30 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 12:39:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306091111.39546.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...> <200306091111.39546.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>
Message-ID: <200306091239.31067.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 11:11, Radoslav Dejanovic a ?crit :
> On Saturday 07 June 2003 02:40 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > It should compile, the IDE should run, and should crash if you try to
> > create a project using the KDE component.
>
> SuSE 8.2 compiles and installs just fine, but when I try to run it, it
> gives me out an segmentation error...

Could you tell me where it segfaults ?

If you don't know how to do that, see:
http://gambas.sourceforge.net/tr-report.html

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116...  Mon Jun  9 13:16:01 2003
From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 13:16:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306091239.31067.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...> <200306091111.39546.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> <200306091239.31067.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306091316.01928.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>

On Monday 09 June 2003 12:39 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Could you tell me where it segfaults ?

funny thing, when I go trough gdb, it gives me this error:

ERROR: #45: File or directory does not exist: /opt/gambas/.project

If i touch the file, it crashes.

-- 
Radoslav Dejanovi?
Operacijski sustavi d.o.o.     http://www.opsus.hr



From bsnipes at ...21...  Mon Jun  9 13:46:13 2003
From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes)
Date: 09 Jun 2003 06:46:13 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306090959.23976.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>
	 <1055109950.3392.2.camel@...73...>
	 <200306090959.23976.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <1055159173.23640.1.camel@...73...>

Any chance that it is the NVidia issue?  Doing an 'opengl-update xfree'
on Gentoo swaps over to the XFree86 OpenGL libraries.  I have to use
those still with Gentoo as opposed to the NVidia ones.

Brian

On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 02:59, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 00:05, Brian Snipes a ?crit :
> > Installs and runs perfectly on Gentoo (with current QT, KDE, MySQL and
> > PostgreSQL).
> 
> Wow ! Great news :-)
> But why does it not work for Jean-Fran?ois ??
> 
> > Any chance of getting the Gentoo paths for KDE libraries and includes
> > added to the configure script?  My paths are:
> > /usr/kde/3.1/lib
> > /usr/kde/3.1/include
> 
> I think I will use kde-config to deal with KDE paths, because there are too 
> many differences between distributions.
> 
> >
> > Brian
> >




From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 15:23:23 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:23:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306091316.01928.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...> <200306091239.31067.gambas@...2...> <200306091316.01928.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>
Message-ID: <200306091523.23581.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 13:16, Radoslav Dejanovic a ?crit :
> On Monday 09 June 2003 12:39 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > Could you tell me where it segfaults ?
>
> funny thing, when I go trough gdb, it gives me this error:
>
> ERROR: #45: File or directory does not exist: /opt/gambas/.project
>
> If i touch the file, it crashes.

You should have read the link I sent !
You must go to the directory containing the source of the IDE.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From cmcpero at ...142...  Mon Jun  9 16:17:29 2003
From: cmcpero at ...142... (Jean-Francois Perreault)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 10:17:29 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <1055109950.3392.2.camel@...73...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...> <1055109950.3392.2.camel@...73...>
Message-ID: <3EE496F9.2060601@...142...>

Hi,

So I've been the one with a problem all along argg
maybe I have some crud in my system I built it 27-4-2003 can you check 
when you built yours ?

I'll try to produce a gdb log but I never used that before (the little 
C/C++ I know never left books)

first I got a gambas is not en executable error
so I opened the file , first line refers to gbx -i , I assume this is 
some kind BASIC interpretor ?

so according to the 12 years old gdb man page I run this
gdb gbx
run -i /opt/gambas/bin/gambas

first time it says
no file or directory called /root/.project

if I just run it says "gbx :too many project files"

I created a /root/.project directory
not it says /root/.project is not a file

rm -r /root/.project
gdb gbx
run -i /opt/gambas/bin/gambas

(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx
Syntax error in project file.
Cannot preload libraries: Success

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0805b1c2 in project_analyze (addr=0x807dee8 "$3\027@$3\027@\020", 
len=0) at project.c:205
205       if (PROJECT_name[0] == 0)
(gdb)
(I just love how you can paste UNIX text files into mozilla and it just 
understands , no lost formatting , sweet...)
strange thing though , the strace log looked like more stuff was happening

I though of other factors
maybe it's because I'm using a 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel , what are you 
using Brian ?

Brian Snipes wrote:

>Installs and runs perfectly on Gentoo (with current QT, KDE, MySQL and
>PostgreSQL).
>Any chance of getting the Gentoo paths for KDE libraries and includes
>added to the configure script?  My paths are:
>/usr/kde/3.1/lib
>/usr/kde/3.1/include
>
>Brian
>
>On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 07:40, Benoit Minisini wrote:
>  
>
>>Hello Suse 8.2, RedHat and Gentoo users,
>>
>>I have made a new pre-version of gambas here:
>>
>>http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre2.tar.gz
>>
>>Could you download it and compile it ?
>>
>>It should compile, the IDE should run, and should crash if you try to create a 
>>project using the KDE component.
>>
>>Tell me if I'm right or wrong,
>>
>>Regards,
>>    
>>


-- 
--------------------
Jean-Francois Perreault
NanoTech Informatique

UIN 783056
cmcpero at ...142...





From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 16:41:21 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:41:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
Message-ID: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...>

This post concerns:
- Gentoo users
- SuSE users
- RedHat users
- Every users using NVidia driver

I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre3.tar.gz

This version may solve:
- The crash on compilation (everywhere)
- The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
- The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
- The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo

I'm waiting for your returns now :-)

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...





From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 16:46:11 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:46:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <3EE496F9.2060601@...142...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...> <1055109950.3392.2.camel@...73...> <3EE496F9.2060601@...142...>
Message-ID: <200306091646.11358.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 16:17, Jean-Francois Perreault a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> So I've been the one with a problem all along argg
> maybe I have some crud in my system I built it 27-4-2003 can you check
> when you built yours ?
>
> I'll try to produce a gdb log but I never used that before (the little
> C/C++ I know never left books)

To know how to produce a backtrace, follow what is written on the website:
http://gambas.sourceforge.net/tr-report.html

>
> first I got a gambas is not en executable error
> so I opened the file , first line refers to gbx -i , I assume this is
> some kind BASIC interpretor ?

Yes, gbx is the gambas interpretor.

Regards,
-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From cmcpero at ...142...  Mon Jun  9 17:20:54 2003
From: cmcpero at ...142... (Jean-Francois Perreault)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:20:54 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EE4A5D6.2030704@...142...>

Hi,

(from gambas-58pre2 I ran make uninstall then rm -r /opt/gambas)

then for gambas-0.58pre3


./configure --disable-pgsql-driver
... (no obvious errors) and it found kde libs and kde include during the 
configure step
make
... (no obvious errors)
make install
... (no obvious errors)
Installing the library help files...

Installing the control icons...
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/gambas-0.58pre3'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/gambas-0.58pre3'
DJHaCK-3 gambas-0.58pre3 # gambas
Segmentation fault
DJHaCK-3 gambas-0.58pre3 # gdb gbx
GNU gdb 5.3
Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain 
conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu"...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx
ERROR: #45: File or directory does not exist: /root/gambas-0.58pre3/.project

Program exited with code 01.
(gdb) quit
DJHaCK-3 gambas-0.58pre3 # cd ..
DJHaCK-3 root # gdb gbx
GNU gdb 5.3
Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain 
conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu"...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx
Syntax error in project file.
Cannot preload libraries: Success

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0805b1c2 in project_analyze (addr=0x807df68 "", len=0) at project.c:205
205       if (PROJECT_name[0] == 0)
(gdb)

now from ~/gambas-0.58pre3/app/gambas/

DJHaCK-3 gambas #gdb gbx
GNU gdb 5.3
Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain 
conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu"...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx

Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
0x40000b40 in _start () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) bt
#0  0x40000b40 in _start () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb)

do you want ssh access ? you know more what you're doing then me

I'm starting to believe it's my systems that are screwed up !
or I am doing something fundamentaly wrong (what is that .project file 
anyway ?)

Benoit Minisini wrote:

>This post concerns:
>- Gentoo users
>- SuSE users
>- RedHat users
>- Every users using NVidia driver
>
>I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
>http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre3.tar.gz
>
>This version may solve:
>- The crash on compilation (everywhere)
>- The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
>- The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
>- The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo
>
>I'm waiting for your returns now :-)
>
>Regards,
>
>  
>


-- 
--------------------
Jean-Francois Perreault
NanoTech Informatique

UIN 783056
cmcpero at ...142...





From bernard.pre at ...62...  Mon Jun  9 17:37:04 2003
From: bernard.pre at ...62... (Bernard PRE)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:37:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPCEJACCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>

hi Benoit 

I have a pb when compiling this version on redhat 9 :

dcopref.h : No such file or directory

Bernard



-----Message d'origine-----
De : gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]De la part de Benoit
Minisini
Envoye : lundi 9 juin 2003 16:41
A : gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Objet : [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)


This post concerns:
- Gentoo users
- SuSE users
- RedHat users
- Every users using NVidia driver

I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre3.tar.gz

This version may solve:
- The crash on compilation (everywhere)
- The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
- The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
- The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo

I'm waiting for your returns now :-)

Regards,

-- 
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mailto:gambas at ...1...




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From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 19:25:07 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:25:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPCEJACCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>
References: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPCEJACCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>
Message-ID: <200306091925.07990.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 17:37, Bernard PRE a ?crit :
> hi Benoit
>
> I have a pb when compiling this version on redhat 9 :
>
> dcopref.h : No such file or directory
>
> Bernard
>

This is a KDE include file. Could you check that ./configure finds the correct 
location of KDE includes.

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 19:28:41 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:28:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <3EE4A5D6.2030704@...142...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...> <3EE4A5D6.2030704@...142...>
Message-ID: <200306091928.41700.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 17:20, Jean-Francois Perreault a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> (from gambas-58pre2 I ran make uninstall then rm -r /opt/gambas)
>
> then for gambas-0.58pre3
>
>
> ./configure --disable-pgsql-driver
> ... (no obvious errors) and it found kde libs and kde include during the
> configure step
> make
> ... (no obvious errors)
> make install
> ... (no obvious errors)
> Installing the library help files...
>
> Installing the control icons...
> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/gambas-0.58pre3'
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/gambas-0.58pre3'
> DJHaCK-3 gambas-0.58pre3 # gambas
> Segmentation fault
> DJHaCK-3 gambas-0.58pre3 # gdb gbx
> GNU gdb 5.3
> Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you
> are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
> conditions.
> Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
> This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu"...
> (gdb) run
> Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx
> ERROR: #45: File or directory does not exist:
> /root/gambas-0.58pre3/.project
>
> Program exited with code 01.
> (gdb) quit
> DJHaCK-3 gambas-0.58pre3 # cd ..
> DJHaCK-3 root # gdb gbx
> GNU gdb 5.3
> Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you
> are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
> conditions.
> Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
> This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu"...
> (gdb) run
> Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx
> Syntax error in project file.
> Cannot preload libraries: Success
>
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 0x0805b1c2 in project_analyze (addr=0x807df68 "", len=0) at project.c:205
> 205       if (PROJECT_name[0] == 0)
> (gdb)
>
> now from ~/gambas-0.58pre3/app/gambas/
>
> DJHaCK-3 gambas #gdb gbx
> GNU gdb 5.3
> Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you
> are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
> conditions.
> Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
> This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu"...
> (gdb) run
> Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx
>
> Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
> 0x40000b40 in _start () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x40000b40 in _start () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
> (gdb)
>
> do you want ssh access ? you know more what you're doing then me

You can simply give me a telnet access by sending me your IP address, a 
non-root account and a password, and by telling me where you store gambas 
sources.

If you can do it now, I will reread my e-mail in one hour.

>
> I'm starting to believe it's my systems that are screwed up !
> or I am doing something fundamentaly wrong (what is that .project file
> anyway ?)

.project is a text file describing a gambas project. When you launch gbx 
without any parameter, it assumes that the current directory is the directory 
of the gambas project you want to run.

-- 
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mailto:gambas at ...1...



From bernard.pre at ...62...  Mon Jun  9 21:03:20 2003
From: bernard.pre at ...62... (Bernard PRE)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:03:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <200306091925.07990.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPKEJBCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>

hi

I do :
./configure --with-kde-includes /usr/include/kde

ans i have the same error

This include files(dcopref.h) is located in this directorie


Bernard


-----Message d'origine-----
De : gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]De la part de Benoit
Minisini
Envoy? : lundi 9 juin 2003 19:25
? : gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Objet : Re: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)


Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 17:37, Bernard PRE a ?crit :
> hi Benoit
>
> I have a pb when compiling this version on redhat 9 :
>
> dcopref.h : No such file or directory
>
> Bernard
>

This is a KDE include file. Could you check that ./configure finds the
correct
location of KDE includes.

Regards,

--
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...


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From cmcpero at ...142...  Mon Jun  9 21:24:34 2003
From: cmcpero at ...142... (Jean-Francois Perreault)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:24:34 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPKEJBCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>
References: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPKEJBCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>
Message-ID: <3EE4DEF2.8040305@...142...>

Hi,

try

./configure --with-kde-includes=/usr/include/kde

also try 

find / | grep dcopref.h

to see if you have multiple copies of that file

Bernard PRE wrote:

>hi
>
>I do :
>./configure --with-kde-includes /usr/include/kde
>
>ans i have the same error
>
>This include files(dcopref.h) is located in this directorie
>
>
>Bernard
>
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
>[mailto:gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]De la part de Benoit
>Minisini
>Envoy? : lundi 9 juin 2003 19:25
>? : gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>Objet : Re: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
>
>
>Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 17:37, Bernard PRE a ?crit :
>  
>
>>hi Benoit
>>
>>I have a pb when compiling this version on redhat 9 :
>>
>>dcopref.h : No such file or directory
>>
>>Bernard
>>
>>    
>>
>
>This is a KDE include file. Could you check that ./configure finds the
>correct
>location of KDE includes.
>
>Regards,
>
>--
>Benoit Minisini
>mailto:gambas at ...1...
>
>
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From bernard.pre at ...62...  Mon Jun  9 21:29:22 2003
From: bernard.pre at ...62... (Bernard PRE)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:29:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <3EE4DEF2.8040305@...142...>
Message-ID: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPCEJCCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>

hi !
I do that .. i have only one copy of this file

Bernard


-----Message d'origine-----
De : gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]De la part de
Jean-Francois Perreault
Envoy? : lundi 9 juin 2003 21:25
? : gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Objet : Re: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)


Hi,

try

../configure --with-kde-includes=/usr/include/kde

also try

find / | grep dcopref.h

to see if you have multiple copies of that file

Bernard PRE wrote:

>hi
>
>I do :
>./configure --with-kde-includes /usr/include/kde
>
>ans i have the same error
>
>This include files(dcopref.h) is located in this directorie
>
>
>Bernard
>
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
>[mailto:gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]De la part de Benoit
>Minisini
>Envoy? : lundi 9 juin 2003 19:25
>? : gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>Objet : Re: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
>
>
>Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 17:37, Bernard PRE a ?crit :
>
>
>>hi Benoit
>>
>>I have a pb when compiling this version on redhat 9 :
>>
>>dcopref.h : No such file or directory
>>
>>Bernard
>>
>>
>>
>
>This is a KDE include file. Could you check that ./configure finds the
>correct
>location of KDE includes.
>
>Regards,
>
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>
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From nikosdion at ...146...  Mon Jun  9 21:59:36 2003
From: nikosdion at ...146... (Nikolaos Dionysopoulos)
Date: 09 Jun 2003 22:59:36 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...>

> This post concerns:
> - Gentoo users
> - SuSE users
> - RedHat users
> - Every users using NVidia driver
> 
> I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
> http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre3.tar.gz
> 
> This version may solve:
> - The crash on compilation (everywhere)
> - The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
> - The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
> - The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo
> 
> I'm waiting for your returns now :-)

I am using Mandrake 9.1RC1 with newest NVidia drivers. The compilation
works fine (it segfaulted on previous versions), but when I try to
launch the IDE or any project, it crashes with a "Segmentation Fault"
error.

Hope you can fix that NVidia problem in the future :)

Regards,
-- 
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Student of Mechanical Engineering

nikosdion-AT-in.gr -- http://www.sledge81.cjb.net




From jsrlepage at ...67...  Mon Jun  9 22:02:10 2003
From: jsrlepage at ...67... (Renaud Lepage)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:02:10 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
Message-ID: <Sea2-F68APDVXLuSbh200000724@...67...>

'think i know the problem...

you have to call up your form at the boot of the application. presently, the 
closing of any app i make is a segmentation fault. dunno if i wrote it 
correctly - pourrais-tu reformuler ?a, beno?t?


>From: Nikolaos Dionysopoulos <nikosdion at ...146...>
>Reply-To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
>Date: 09 Jun 2003 22:59:36 +0300
>
> > This post concerns:
> > - Gentoo users
> > - SuSE users
> > - RedHat users
> > - Every users using NVidia driver
> >
> > I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
> > http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre3.tar.gz
> >
> > This version may solve:
> > - The crash on compilation (everywhere)
> > - The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
> > - The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
> > - The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo
> >
> > I'm waiting for your returns now :-)
>
>I am using Mandrake 9.1RC1 with newest NVidia drivers. The compilation
>works fine (it segfaulted on previous versions), but when I try to
>launch the IDE or any project, it crashes with a "Segmentation Fault"
>error.
>
>Hope you can fix that NVidia problem in the future :)
>
>Regards,
>--
>Nick Dionysopoulos
>Student of Mechanical Engineering
>
>nikosdion-AT-in.gr -- http://www.sledge81.cjb.net
>
>
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From cmcpero at ...142...  Mon Jun  9 22:05:25 2003
From: cmcpero at ...142... (Jean-Francois Perreault)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:05:25 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...> <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...>
Message-ID: <3EE4E885.9070201@...142...>

try this

mkdir ~/.font
gbx

Nikolaos Dionysopoulos wrote:

>>This post concerns:
>>- Gentoo users
>>- SuSE users
>>- RedHat users
>>- Every users using NVidia driver
>>
>>I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
>>http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre3.tar.gz
>>
>>This version may solve:
>>- The crash on compilation (everywhere)
>>- The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
>>- The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
>>- The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo
>>
>>I'm waiting for your returns now :-)
>>    
>>
>
>I am using Mandrake 9.1RC1 with newest NVidia drivers. The compilation
>works fine (it segfaulted on previous versions), but when I try to
>launch the IDE or any project, it crashes with a "Segmentation Fault"
>error.
>
>Hope you can fix that NVidia problem in the future :)
>
>Regards,
>  
>


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From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 22:22:09 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:22:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPKEJBCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>
References: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPKEJBCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>
Message-ID: <200306092222.09380.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 21:03, Bernard PRE a ?crit :
> hi
>
> I do :
> ./configure --with-kde-includes /usr/include/kde
>
> ans i have the same error
>

You must do ./configure --with-kde-includes=/usr/include/kde, with '=' ?
Tell me if I'm wrong !

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From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 22:29:02 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:29:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...> <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...>
Message-ID: <200306092229.02833.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 21:59, Nikolaos Dionysopoulos a ?crit :
> > This post concerns:
> > - Gentoo users
> > - SuSE users
> > - RedHat users
> > - Every users using NVidia driver
> >
> > I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
> > http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre3.tar.gz
> >
> > This version may solve:
> > - The crash on compilation (everywhere)
> > - The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
> > - The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
> > - The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo
> >
> > I'm waiting for your returns now :-)
>
> I am using Mandrake 9.1RC1 with newest NVidia drivers. The compilation
> works fine (it segfaulted on previous versions), but when I try to
> launch the IDE or any project, it crashes with a "Segmentation Fault"
> error.
>
> Hope you can fix that NVidia problem in the future :)
>
> Regards,

Could you (or another NVidia user) let me accessing your Linux box by telnet 
or ssh ?

Regards,

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From bernard.pre at ...62...  Mon Jun  9 22:27:27 2003
From: bernard.pre at ...62... (Bernard PRE)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:27:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <200306092222.09380.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPGEJDCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>

hi,

Yes i use the syntaxe with "=" ... i don't undestand ....

Bernard


-----Message d'origine-----
De : gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]De la part de Benoit
Minisini
Envoy? : lundi 9 juin 2003 22:22
? : gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Objet : Re: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)


Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 21:03, Bernard PRE a ?crit :
> hi
>
> I do :
> ./configure --with-kde-includes /usr/include/kde
>
> ans i have the same error
>

You must do ./configure --with-kde-includes=/usr/include/kde, with '=' ?
Tell me if I'm wrong !

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From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 22:33:42 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:33:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <3EE4E885.9070201@...142...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...> <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...> <3EE4E885.9070201@...142...>
Message-ID: <200306092233.42486.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 22:05, Jean-Francois Perreault a ?crit :
> try this
>
> mkdir ~/.font
> gbx
>

No, it is mkdir ~/.fonts, with an 's' and it seems that only your box has this 
problem ! :-)

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From karl.reinl at ...9...  Mon Jun  9 22:58:11 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 22:58:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the IDE
References: <3EE3900A.1080604@...9...> <200306091005.53173.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EE4F4E3.1030404@...9...>

Benoit Minisini schrieb:

>Le Dimanche 8 Juin 2003 21:35, Charlie a ?crit :
>  
>
>>Salut Benoit,
>>
>>1.
>>I work with  2 Screens
>>and allways if I hade worked last with second screen.
>>Start next time working on the first the debug window is on his right
>>place, but closing this
>>The Pos for FDebug in .gambas  =-4,-20
>>
>> From now on I have still access to the buttons , but moving it I have
>>to use right-click/move.
>>
>>But for easier work I think it will be nice not to store Window Pos less
>>then 0.
>>    
>>
>
>Sorry Charlie, I don't really understand what you mean exactly ?
>But I'm not surprised if they are problems with windows positions, as QT 
>manages them in a very strange manner, if not buggy :-). I had to workaround 
>this management when the window is hidden in gambas sources.
>  
>
Acctualy  gambas can store Windows  (in Config.class / SaveWindosPos) 
with negativ Values in  the file .gambas .
Just change to the code in Config.class / SaveWindosPos
    from
    sPos = CStr(hWindows.X) & "," & CStr(hWindows.Y)

    into something like :

    if  hWindows.X <  0 then
        sPos = "0"
    else
        sPos = CStr(hWindows.X)
    endif
    if  hWindows.Y < 0 then
        sPos = sPos  & "0"
    else
        sPos = sPos  & CStr(hWindows.Y)
    endif
so windows alway visible .

Ma by the same at SaveWindowsSize but there not = may be you give 40
 
Charlie




From cmcpero at ...142...  Mon Jun  9 23:04:01 2003
From: cmcpero at ...142... (Jean-Francois Perreault)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:04:01 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] #gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306092233.42486.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...> <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...> <3EE4E885.9070201@...142...> <200306092233.42486.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EE4F641.5090603@...142...>

I propose we make a #gambas IRC channel on the freenode network
this would speed up communication and lower mailing list traffic

else there will be over 1000 msg per month by the end of summer

once irc traffic is too high we could split into

#gambas
#gambas-fr
#gambas-de
#gambas-dev
#gambas-newbies
#gambas-advanced

anyone thinks this makes sense ?


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From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun  9 23:18:03 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 23:18:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] #gambas
In-Reply-To: <3EE4F641.5090603@...142...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...> <200306092233.42486.gambas@...2...> <3EE4F641.5090603@...142...>
Message-ID: <200306092318.03514.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 23:04, Jean-Francois Perreault a ?crit :
> I propose we make a #gambas IRC channel on the freenode network
> this would speed up communication and lower mailing list traffic
>
> else there will be over 1000 msg per month by the end of summer
>
> once irc traffic is too high we could split into
>
> #gambas
> #gambas-fr
> #gambas-de
> #gambas-dev
> #gambas-newbies
> #gambas-advanced
>
> anyone thinks this makes sense ?

The advantage of the mailing-list is that everything is archived.

-- 
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mailto:gambas at ...1...



From cmcpero at ...142...  Mon Jun  9 23:23:25 2003
From: cmcpero at ...142... (Jean-Francois Perreault)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:23:25 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] #gambas
In-Reply-To: <200306092318.03514.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...> <200306092233.42486.gambas@...2...> <3EE4F641.5090603@...142...> <200306092318.03514.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EE4FACD.8010806@...142...>

Benoit Minisini wrote:

>Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 23:04, Jean-Francois Perreault a ?crit :
>  
>
>>I propose we make a #gambas IRC channel on the freenode network
>>this would speed up communication and lower mailing list traffic
>>
>>else there will be over 1000 msg per month by the end of summer
>>
>>once irc traffic is too high we could split into
>>
>>#gambas
>>#gambas-fr
>>#gambas-de
>>#gambas-dev
>>#gambas-newbies
>>#gambas-advanced
>>
>>anyone thinks this makes sense ?
>>    
>>
>
>The advantage of the mailing-list is that everything is archived.
>
>  
>
we could keep daily searchable logs but this would be good at
keeping the harder questions in the mailing list and the quickly
solved problem in the daily on irc , though the wiki pages will also
do a good job at solving that kind of small problems too

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From carlo.m at ...122...  Tue Jun 10 00:37:28 2003
From: carlo.m at ...122... (Carlo Malfatti)
Date: 10 Jun 2003 00:37:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...>
	 <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...>
Message-ID: <1055198248.3512.9.camel@...56...>

Sorry, I'lost the original post of this message so my reply can be out
of correct thread, however I've compiled, installed and used the pre3
version on my Redhat 9 by disabling kde components.
If kde components are enabled (default) './configure' give no warnings
but 'make' return errors while compiling.

My box is updated with the latest release of kde (via up2date).

Should I be more specific on error messages or this is a known issue
(pre2 post reported: ...and should crash if you try to create a project
using the KDE component...)?

Regards, Carlo


> > This post concerns:
> > - Gentoo users
> > - SuSE users
> > - RedHat users
> > - Every users using NVidia driver
> > 
> > I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
> > http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre3.tar.gz
> > 
> > This version may solve:
> > - The crash on compilation (everywhere)
> > - The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
> > - The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
> > - The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo
> > 
> > I'm waiting for your returns now :-)





From bsnipes at ...21...  Tue Jun 10 04:46:51 2003
From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes)
Date: 09 Jun 2003 21:46:51 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] new pre-version of gambas
In-Reply-To: <3EE496F9.2060601@...142...>
References: <200306071440.58765.gambas@...2...>
	 <1055109950.3392.2.camel@...73...> <3EE496F9.2060601@...142...>
Message-ID: <1055213210.23767.10.camel@...73...>

This workstation is based Gentoo 1.4rc2 I believe.

I just 'emerge world' 2 weeks ago so my programs are current:
qt = qt-3.1.2-r3
kde = kde-3.1.2

NVidia OpenGL libraries are still a problem with 0.58pre3

Brian

On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:17, Jean-Francois Perreault wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> So I've been the one with a problem all along argg
> maybe I have some crud in my system I built it 27-4-2003 can you check 
> when you built yours ?
> 
> I'll try to produce a gdb log but I never used that before (the little 
> C/C++ I know never left books)
> 
> first I got a gambas is not en executable error
> so I opened the file , first line refers to gbx -i , I assume this is 
> some kind BASIC interpretor ?
> 
> so according to the 12 years old gdb man page I run this
> gdb gbx
> run -i /opt/gambas/bin/gambas
> 
> first time it says
> no file or directory called /root/.project
> 
> if I just run it says "gbx :too many project files"
> 
> I created a /root/.project directory
> not it says /root/.project is not a file
> 
> rm -r /root/.project
> gdb gbx
> run -i /opt/gambas/bin/gambas
> 
> (gdb) run
> Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx
> Syntax error in project file.
> Cannot preload libraries: Success
> 
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 0x0805b1c2 in project_analyze (addr=0x807dee8 "$3\027@$3\027@\020", 
> len=0) at project.c:205
> 205       if (PROJECT_name[0] == 0)
> (gdb)
> (I just love how you can paste UNIX text files into mozilla and it just 
> understands , no lost formatting , sweet...)
> strange thing though , the strace log looked like more stuff was happening
> 
> I though of other factors
> maybe it's because I'm using a 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel , what are you 
> using Brian ?
> 
> Brian Snipes wrote:
> 
> >Installs and runs perfectly on Gentoo (with current QT, KDE, MySQL and
> >PostgreSQL).
> >Any chance of getting the Gentoo paths for KDE libraries and includes
> >added to the configure script?  My paths are:
> >/usr/kde/3.1/lib
> >/usr/kde/3.1/include
> >
> >Brian
> >
> >On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 07:40, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Hello Suse 8.2, RedHat and Gentoo users,
> >>
> >>I have made a new pre-version of gambas here:
> >>
> >>http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre2.tar.gz
> >>
> >>Could you download it and compile it ?
> >>
> >>It should compile, the IDE should run, and should crash if you try to create a 
> >>project using the KDE component.
> >>
> >>Tell me if I'm right or wrong,
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>    
> >>




From schumacher-k at ...20...  Tue Jun 10 18:07:58 2003
From: schumacher-k at ...20... (Klaus Schumacher)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:07:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] character code ??
In-Reply-To: <200305272202.06335.gambas@...2...>
References: <200305190052.40576.schrockk@...137...> <200305212017.50477.schrockk@...137...> <3ED24DEE.4090504@...20...> <200305272202.06335.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EE6025E.2010204@...20...>

Hi Benoit,
thanks for your help, it works with Conv$

Klaus



Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Le Lundi 26 Mai 2003 19:25, Klaus Schumacher a ?crit :
> 
>>Hello everybody,
>>I've done a small program in gambas 0.44 which reads a file with data
>>form my palm, converted with the tool pdb2csv. Now I've updated gambas
>>and the german characters (?,?, ?) in the file are not longer readable.
>>I suppose it's because of the UTF-8 charset changing since 0.50 ?!
>>But what can I do ?
>>
>>Klaus
>>
> 
> 
> Hi Klaus,
> 
> You canuse the Conv$() function that can convert from any charset to any other 
> charset.
> 
> Now in Gambas, all qt controls use UTF-8. Every string coming from and sent to 
> the interface are in UTF-8.
> 
> Every string sent to a terminal, or into a database are sent as is, so you 
> must be careful with the charset of the data destination.
> 
> For example, for putting a file downloaded from a palm into a textbox, you may 
> have to do the following :
> 
> MyTextBox.Text = Conv$(MyPalmData, "ISO-8859-1", "UTF-8")
> 
> Tell me if it works,
> 
> Regards,
> 





From dimitribellini at ...69...  Wed Jun 11 20:18:48 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:18:48 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
Message-ID: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...>

Hi all
	i need help to create a basic input/output program i see every mail in the 
list but nothing to do... 
Yes i can read a data ... but i must collect the incoming data in real time 
and show it in a form with some modification so i dont use a external tool. 
When i use the Open file Direct and grab a line with INPUT LINE the program 
stop until a new data is arrived... azz... I dont understand how can i solve 
this problem....
Please help me... I'm not a C programer :-) There is some one that have made a 
module Like MSComm for Gambas.
Thanks in Advance
Dimitri




From gambas at ...2...  Wed Jun 11 19:02:09 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:02:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
In-Reply-To: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...>
References: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...>
Message-ID: <200306111902.09859.gambas@...2...>

Le Mercredi 11 Juin 2003 20:18, Dimitri Bellini a ?crit :
> Hi all
> 	i need help to create a basic input/output program i see every mail in the
> list but nothing to do...
> Yes i can read a data ... but i must collect the incoming data in real time
> and show it in a form with some modification so i dont use a external tool.
> When i use the Open file Direct and grab a line with INPUT LINE the program
> stop until a new data is arrived... azz... I dont understand how can i
> solve this problem....
> Please help me... I'm not a C programer :-) There is some one that have
> made a module Like MSComm for Gambas.
> Thanks in Advance
> Dimitri
>

Hi, Dimitri.

There is all what you need inside the interpreter, but I haven't created the 
corresponding instruction yet.

I think this instruction will have the following syntax:

  WATCH "/dev/ttyS0" FOR READ WRITE AS #hFile

And you will get events, like the EXEC instruction.

I must write an event loop into the interpreter first - There is a post 
somewhere about that.

Be patient :-)

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From kschrock at ...149...  Wed Jun 11 14:21:26 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (kschrock)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:21:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
References: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...>
Message-ID: <3EE71EC6.90703@...149...>

Level 1. Use
READ #File,Variable [ ,Length ] with a length of 1
Then at least you only wait a single character instead of a line

Level 2. Make a script that does the same thing
EXEC or SHELL it from Gambas and user FOR READ option
So that you app can go about its business until it returns
The shell will call a callback when data is ready

Level 3. Write a gambas component or have someone do that for you (in C)

Dimitri Bellini wrote:

>Hi all
>	i need help to create a basic input/output program i see every mail in the 
>list but nothing to do... 
>Yes i can read a data ... but i must collect the incoming data in real time 
>and show it in a form with some modification so i dont use a external tool. 
>When i use the Open file Direct and grab a line with INPUT LINE the program 
>stop until a new data is arrived... azz... I dont understand how can i solve 
>this problem....
>Please help me... I'm not a C programer :-) There is some one that have made a 
>module Like MSComm for Gambas.
>Thanks in Advance
>Dimitri
>





From nikosdion at ...146...  Thu Jun 12 03:17:00 2003
From: nikosdion at ...146... (Nikolaos Dionysopoulos)
Date: 12 Jun 2003 04:17:00 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (third edition)
In-Reply-To: <200306092229.02833.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306091641.21967.gambas@...2...>
	 <1055188776.5730.6.camel@...150...>
	 <200306092229.02833.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <1055333043.3236.10.camel@...150...>

???? 09/????/2003, ????? ??????? ??? ??? 23:29, ?/? Benoit Minisini
??????:

[snip]
> >
> > I am using Mandrake 9.1RC1 with newest NVidia drivers. The compilation
> > works fine (it segfaulted on previous versions), but when I try to
> > launch the IDE or any project, it crashes with a "Segmentation Fault"
> > error.
> >
> > Hope you can fix that NVidia problem in the future :)
> >
> > Regards,
> 
> Could you (or another NVidia user) let me accessing your Linux box by telnet 
> or ssh ?

Unfortunately I am connected on a dial-up line, so my box is usually off
the net :( Is there possibly anything else I could do to help you fix
this bug?

-- 
Nick Dionysopoulos
Student of Mechanical Engineering

nikosdion-AT-in.gr -- http://www.sledge81.cjb.net




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Thu Jun 12 04:08:04 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:08:04 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rol/Ror vs. Shl/Shr
Message-ID: <200306112206.27886.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

I was trying to come up with some examples for Rol/Ror tonight (bit rotate 
left/bit rotate right) and an explanation for the differences from Shl/Shr, 
so I made a simple console only project and put this in sub main:

  DIM oldvar AS Byte
  DIM newvar AS Byte

  oldvar = 129
  newvar = Shl(oldvar,1)
  PRINT newvar

  newvar = Rol(oldvar,1)
  PRINT newvar

and built and ran it, and got this:

2
2

meaning Shl and Rol both treat carried bits the same (discard them).  Are they 
meant to just be aliases of each other or is this a gambas bug?

For what it's worth, changing them to Shr and Ror returned
64
64
which is consistent, but when I made newvar an Integer, it returned
64
-2147483584
which is more what I'd expect (the latter being the output of Ror.)  I noticed 
there were no examples for Rol/Ror in the encyclopaedia and figured maybe it 
was something Benoit meant to fix a long time ago and got distracted by more 
interesting things ;)

Rob





From dimitribellini at ...69...  Thu Jun 12 13:24:42 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:24:42 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
In-Reply-To: <200306111902.09859.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...> <200306111902.09859.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306121124.42647.dimitribellini@...69...>

> There is all what you need inside the interpreter, but I haven't created
> the corresponding instruction yet.
>
> I think this instruction will have the following syntax:

>
>   WATCH "/dev/ttyS0" FOR READ WRITE AS #hFile
>
> And you will get events, like the EXEC instruction.
>
> I must write an event loop into the interpreter first - There is a post
> somewhere about that.
>
> Be patient :-)
>
> Regards,

Thanks Benoit
	for your answer, you have plan to create this new istruction in few month?
I dont see in Properties a INDEX option is possible to have it? (i think is 
possible to use index without this option but if is possible.. :-) ) 
Thanks for Your Great work.

Dimitri


PS:is possible to add a italian language in Wiki (i translate the english 
version)




From dimitribellini at ...69...  Thu Jun 12 13:58:03 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:58:03 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
In-Reply-To: <3EE71EC6.90703@...149...>
References: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...> <3EE71EC6.90703@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306121158.03357.dimitribellini@...69...>

On Wednesday 11 June 2003 12:21, kschrock wrote:
> Level 1. Use
> READ #File,Variable [ ,Length ] with a length of 1
> Then at least you only wait a single character instead of a line
>
> Level 2. Make a script that does the same thing
> EXEC or SHELL it from Gambas and user FOR READ option
> So that you app can go about its business until it returns
> The shell will call a callback when data is ready
>
> Level 3. Write a gambas component or have someone do that for you (in C)
>

Hi
	I try to use your "READ #File,Variable [ ,Length ]" but if i use Step by Step 
"F8" work well if i Run with "F5" my App dont work well it seems that some 
charatter still stay in buffer.
Thanks for possible solution.
Dimitri




From kschrock at ...149...  Thu Jun 12 15:05:48 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:05:48 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
References: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...> <3EE71EC6.90703@...149...> <200306121158.03357.dimitribellini@...69...>
Message-ID: <3EE87AAC.2010308@...149...>

Dimitri Bellini wrote:

>Hi
>	I try to use your "READ #File,Variable [ ,Length ]" but if i use Step by Step 
>"F8" work well if i Run with "F5" my App dont work well it seems that some 
>charatter still stay in buffer.
>Thanks for possible solution.
>
Both the exec and shell statements allow async operation
If you made a simple perl script that read tty input and output it to stdout
You could use the EXEC function to get the data without locking the app
(see the sample code in the exec section of the manual)

I also made a component for gambas that can read or write any port
But to use this for serial io you would have to know all about the various
Control and status registers involved in serial io and do handshaking 
yourself
Which, if you've never done it before, is not a simple task

>Dimitri
>
>
>
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From henryi at ...160...  Thu Jun 12 15:04:38 2003
From: henryi at ...160... (Henry Ismaili)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 23:04:38 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab Order
Message-ID: <200306122304.38243.henryi@...160...>

Is there anyway to set the tab order on buttons/combos/textboxes on the form ?

there's no place in the properties to set it ...
when i bring a form up, and press tab to move from textbox to textbox, it 
flies all over the place ?
maybe i haven't looked hard enough.

regards,

Henry.




From gambas at ...2...  Thu Jun 12 19:06:54 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:06:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
In-Reply-To: <200306121124.42647.dimitribellini@...69...>
References: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...> <200306111902.09859.gambas@...2...> <200306121124.42647.dimitribellini@...69...>
Message-ID: <200306121906.54344.gambas@...2...>

Le Jeudi 12 Juin 2003 13:24, Dimitri Bellini a ?crit :
> Thanks Benoit
> 	for your answer, you have plan to create this new istruction in few month?
> I dont see in Properties a INDEX option is possible to have it? (i think is
> possible to use index without this option but if is possible.. :-) )

What do you mean ???

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Thu Jun 12 19:06:50 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:06:50 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Wiki Translations
Message-ID: <200306121306.50889.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

Okay, now I have had offers of help in translating the Gambas Encyclopaedia 
Wiki into French, German and Italian.  Thanks to all of you!

I have looked at other people's wikis and it appears that the way it is done 
is to make new root webs which are copies of the original (in this case 
English) version, called for example GambasFran?ais, GambasDeutsch or 
GambasItaliano, and then have the translators move through them translating.  
It doesn't seem that there's any automated way to propagate additions from 
the original version to the translated versions. Obviously, over time, some 
things will end up being written in each language that don't end up getting 
translated to other languages, and I think we're going to have to live with 
that.

As recently as last night, I have run perl scripts on the wiki to remove 
leftover formatting problems (stray * and _ marks, mostly) and add a table of 
contents to each of the component class pages, and while the wiki in general 
is pretty clean now, it's certainly possible that someone would find 
something that needs to be cleaned up across a large number of pages.  

I should be able to do these things to the translated versions of the wiki as 
well, but when the next version of Gambas appears, I'm also going to be 
rebuilding my script to import Benoit's class documentation into the wiki, so 
that it can be added automatically but users' additions (example code, 
documentation of undocumented classes) will remain intact.  That will require 
changes to all the component class pages, and possibly some debugging.

So, here's what I have done.  I have set up the following webs but have not 
linked them from the main web (since they're all in English:)

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasDeutsch/WebHome

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasFrancais/WebHome
(sorry, it seems TWiki can't handle webs named with the french "?" in them)

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasItaliano/WebHome

On each of the above wiki home pages, in the blue strip at the top next to the 
Gambas logo is a link to the name of the wiki.  If you click it, it will give 
you a list of pages in your language's wiki that are still in English.  I did 
this by added a "StillInEnglish" link to the bottom of every page; as you 
translate each page you should remove it, and eventually get down to zero 
pages left to be translated ;)

I've also created a GambasTest wiki in which I'm going to start experimenting 
with the automated class documentation to wiki filter (I'll need to write my 
own Gambas program to do this since the way I did it initially was very 
clumsy and not very automated.)  If I perfect it before you guys touch the 
affected pages, I'll update them in your language's wiki as well.

There, I know that's a lot to put out there at once, but hopefully it'll be a 
help to you guys who would like a Wiki in your native language ;)

Rob




From pchapman at ...129...  Thu Jun 12 20:00:14 2003
From: pchapman at ...129... (Philip A. Chapman)
Date: 12 Jun 2003 13:00:14 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
In-Reply-To: <200306121906.54344.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...>
	 <200306111902.09859.gambas@...2...>
	 <200306121124.42647.dimitribellini@...69...>
	 <200306121906.54344.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <1055440813.24290.28.camel@...130...>

On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 12:06, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Le Jeudi 12 Juin 2003 13:24, Dimitri Bellini a ?crit :
> > Thanks Benoit
> > 	for your answer, you have plan to create this new istruction in few month?
> > I dont see in Properties a INDEX option is possible to have it? (i think is
> > possible to use index without this option but if is possible.. :-) )
> 
> What do you mean ???

I believe he ment the index property for a control, like VB has for it's
control array construct.  Le Jeudi, please refer to Bambas tip of the
day number 10.  It speaks of the group property which every Gambas
control has and how it may be used.  Using Gambas' group property is
more powerful than the VB control array because the group property does
not require the controls to be of the same type.

Hope this helps,
-- 
Philip A. Chapman

Application Development:
Java, Visual Basic (MCP), PostgreSQL, MySQL, MSSQL
Linux, Windows 9x, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP
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From gambas at ...2...  Thu Jun 12 20:25:07 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:25:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (episode 4)
Message-ID: <200306122025.07233.gambas@...2...>

This post concerns the same as before.

I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre4.tar.gz

This version may solve the same problems:
- The crash on compilation (everywhere)
- The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
- The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
- The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo

I hope this will solve the NVidia, the SuSE and gentoo problem. Elsewhere, I 
have not idea left !

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Thu Jun 12 20:27:55 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:27:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rol/Ror vs. Shl/Shr
In-Reply-To: <200306112206.27886.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306112206.27886.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306122027.55382.gambas@...2...>

Le Jeudi 12 Juin 2003 04:08, Rob a ?crit :
> I was trying to come up with some examples for Rol/Ror tonight (bit rotate
> left/bit rotate right) and an explanation for the differences from Shl/Shr,
> so I made a simple console only project and put this in sub main:
>
>   DIM oldvar AS Byte
>   DIM newvar AS Byte
>
>   oldvar = 129
>   newvar = Shl(oldvar,1)
>   PRINT newvar
>
>   newvar = Rol(oldvar,1)
>   PRINT newvar
>
> and built and ran it, and got this:
>
> 2
> 2
>
> meaning Shl and Rol both treat carried bits the same (discard them).  Are
> they meant to just be aliases of each other or is this a gambas bug?
>
> For what it's worth, changing them to Shr and Ror returned
> 64
> 64
> which is consistent, but when I made newvar an Integer, it returned
> 64
> -2147483584
> which is more what I'd expect (the latter being the output of Ror.)  I
> noticed there were no examples for Rol/Ror in the encyclopaedia and figured
> maybe it was something Benoit meant to fix a long time ago and got
> distracted by more interesting things ;)
>
> Rob
>

Hum... In fact these functions work only with full integers, because they 
don't manage the case where their arguments are less than 4 bytes integers.
Call this a bug !

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Thu Jun 12 20:30:01 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:30:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab Order
In-Reply-To: <200306122304.38243.henryi@...160...>
References: <200306122304.38243.henryi@...160...>
Message-ID: <200306122030.01177.gambas@...2...>

Le Jeudi 12 Juin 2003 15:04, Henry Ismaili a ?crit :
> Is there anyway to set the tab order on buttons/combos/textboxes on the
> form ?
>
> there's no place in the properties to set it ...
> when i bring a form up, and press tab to move from textbox to textbox, it
> flies all over the place ?
> maybe i haven't looked hard enough.
>
> regards,
>
> Henry.
>
>

A workaround for that problem is to use "bring to foreground" and "send to 
background" in the form editor pop-up menu. The tab order will follow the Z 
order of the controls !

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From carlo.m at ...122...  Thu Jun 12 20:44:58 2003
From: carlo.m at ...122... (Carlo Malfatti)
Date: 12 Jun 2003 20:44:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (episode 4)
In-Reply-To: <200306122025.07233.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306122025.07233.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <1055443498.3529.8.camel@...56...>

Ok, everything worked for me on redhat 9.

Thanks, Carlo

Il gio, 2003-06-12 alle 20:25, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
> This post concerns the same as before.
> 
> I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
> http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre4.tar.gz
> 
> This version may solve the same problems:
> - The crash on compilation (everywhere)
> - The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
> - The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
> - The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo
> 
> I hope this will solve the NVidia, the SuSE and gentoo problem. Elsewhere, I 
> have not idea left !
> 
> Regards,




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun 13 07:34:50 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 01:34:50 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] automated class docs export
Message-ID: <200306130134.50530.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

OK, tonight I wrote a Gambas project that goes through all the components 
installed in your Gambas and creates Wiki pages in /tmp/gambas-export of each 
of their classes, and also each symbol from each class.  Each class 
documentation page has a bunch of wiki %INCLUDE statements to include the 
documentation of each symbol, so it'll be harder for people to accidentally 
make changes to pages that will be wiped out with each new Gambas version.

I attached the project (excuse the ugly code, it was pretty trial and error 
and largely borrowed from the IDE's FExplorer class) and you can see the 
results at

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasTest/GambasIndexByCategory#Components

Let me know if there are any problems with it.  If I don't hear any complaints 
by sometime this weekend I'm gonna go ahead and put the automated output into 
the real wiki.

Rob
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From inigo at ...161...  Fri Jun 13 07:59:33 2003
From: inigo at ...161... (Inigo Zuluaga)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:59:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Wiki Translations
In-Reply-To: <200306121306.50889.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <EBEKLENODEEFLDLIEBFIIELJCAAA.inigo@...161...>

It is possible?
*****************************************************************
http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasEspanol/WebHome
*****************************************************************
(In Spanish)

Thanks


-----Mensaje original-----
De: gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]En nombre de Rob
Enviado el: jueves, 12 de junio de 2003 19:07
Para: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
CC: Stephan Gans
Asunto: [Gambas-user] Gambas Wiki Translations


Okay, now I have had offers of help in translating the Gambas Encyclopaedia
Wiki into French, German and Italian.  Thanks to all of you!

I have looked at other people's wikis and it appears that the way it is done
is to make new root webs which are copies of the original (in this case
English) version, called for example GambasFran?ais, GambasDeutsch or
GambasItaliano, and then have the translators move through them translating.
It doesn't seem that there's any automated way to propagate additions from
the original version to the translated versions. Obviously, over time, some
things will end up being written in each language that don't end up getting
translated to other languages, and I think we're going to have to live with
that.

As recently as last night, I have run perl scripts on the wiki to remove
leftover formatting problems (stray * and _ marks, mostly) and add a table
of
contents to each of the component class pages, and while the wiki in general
is pretty clean now, it's certainly possible that someone would find
something that needs to be cleaned up across a large number of pages.

I should be able to do these things to the translated versions of the wiki
as
well, but when the next version of Gambas appears, I'm also going to be
rebuilding my script to import Benoit's class documentation into the wiki,
so
that it can be added automatically but users' additions (example code,
documentation of undocumented classes) will remain intact.  That will
require
changes to all the component class pages, and possibly some debugging.

So, here's what I have done.  I have set up the following webs but have not
linked them from the main web (since they're all in English:)

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasDeutsch/WebHome

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasFrancais/WebHome
(sorry, it seems TWiki can't handle webs named with the french "?" in them)

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasItaliano/WebHome

On each of the above wiki home pages, in the blue strip at the top next to
the
Gambas logo is a link to the name of the wiki.  If you click it, it will
give
you a list of pages in your language's wiki that are still in English.  I
did
this by added a "StillInEnglish" link to the bottom of every page; as you
translate each page you should remove it, and eventually get down to zero
pages left to be translated ;)

I've also created a GambasTest wiki in which I'm going to start
experimenting
with the automated class documentation to wiki filter (I'll need to write my
own Gambas program to do this since the way I did it initially was very
clumsy and not very automated.)  If I perfect it before you guys touch the
affected pages, I'll update them in your language's wiki as well.

There, I know that's a lot to put out there at once, but hopefully it'll be
a
help to you guys who would like a Wiki in your native language ;)

Rob



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From dimitribellini at ...69...  Fri Jun 13 17:45:39 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:45:39 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
In-Reply-To: <1055440813.24290.28.camel@...130...>
References: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...> <200306121906.54344.gambas@...2...> <1055440813.24290.28.camel@...130...>
Message-ID: <200306131545.39310.dimitribellini@...69...>

On Thursday 12 June 2003 18:00, Philip A. Chapman wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 12:06, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > Le Jeudi 12 Juin 2003 13:24, Dimitri Bellini a ?crit :
> > > Thanks Benoit
> > > 	for your answer, you have plan to create this new istruction in few
> > > month? I dont see in Properties a INDEX option is possible to have it?
> > > (i think is possible to use index without this option but if is
> > > possible.. :-) )
> >
> > What do you mean ???
>
> I believe he ment the index property for a control, like VB has for it's
> control array construct.  Le Jeudi, please refer to Bambas tip of the
> day number 10.  It speaks of the group property which every Gambas
> control has and how it may be used.  Using Gambas' group property is
> more powerful than the VB control array because the group property does
> not require the controls to be of the same type.

Thanks Philip 
	Yes is right... So i use Group function for create Index like Visual Basic.
Thanks in advance
Dimitri




From dimitribellini at ...69...  Fri Jun 13 17:42:22 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:42:22 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Wiki Translations
In-Reply-To: <200306121306.50889.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306121306.50889.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306131542.22928.dimitribellini@...69...>

On Thursday 12 June 2003 17:06, Rob wrote:
> http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasItaliano/WebHome

Hi Rob 
	how can i translate the italian version?
Thanks
Dimitri




From dimitribellini at ...69...  Fri Jun 13 17:48:25 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:48:25 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help me!! I need to use Serial IN/OUT!!! :-(
In-Reply-To: <3EE87AAC.2010308@...149...>
References: <200306111818.49084.dimitribellini@...69...> <200306121158.03357.dimitribellini@...69...> <3EE87AAC.2010308@...149...>
Message-ID: <200306131548.25811.dimitribellini@...69...>

On Thursday 12 June 2003 13:05, Ken Schrock wrote:
> Dimitri Bellini wrote:
> >Hi
> >	I try to use your "READ #File,Variable [ ,Length ]" but if i use Step by
> > Step "F8" work well if i Run with "F5" my App dont work well it seems
> > that some charatter still stay in buffer.
> >Thanks for possible solution.
>
> Both the exec and shell statements allow async operation
> If you made a simple perl script that read tty input and output it to
> stdout You could use the EXEC function to get the data without locking the
> app (see the sample code in the exec section of the manual)
>
> I also made a component for gambas that can read or write any port
> But to use this for serial io you would have to know all about the various
> Control and status registers involved in serial io and do handshaking
> yourself
> Which, if you've never done it before, is not a simple task
>
> >Dimitri

Thanks Ken for this example I try this.
Bye
Dimitri




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun 13 16:17:29 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:17:29 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Wiki Translations
In-Reply-To: <200306131542.22928.dimitribellini@...69...>
References: <200306121306.50889.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306131542.22928.dimitribellini@...69...>
Message-ID: <200306131017.29224.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Friday 13 June 2003 11:42, Dimitri Bellini wrote:
> On Thursday 12 June 2003 17:06, Rob wrote:
> > http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasItaliano/WebHome
> 	how can i translate the italian version?

Just hit edit at the bottom of any page you'd like to start translating, and 
translate it, make sure to delete the "StillInEnglish" mark at the bottom of 
the page, and save your changes.

If you guys find that it's too much work converting all this documentation 
manually, maybe I can come up with an abusive script that uses Google or 
Altavista to make a very poor translation that you can then clean up ;)

That program I wrote to extract all the component class/symbol information 
should also be able to generate the information in other languages into which 
Gambas has been translated (I didn't hard code it into English or anything) 
so someone with Gambas translated into their language should run it and send 
me the output.  However, Benoit found a few bugs in the output so I'd ask you 
to hold off till I get another revision out.

Rob




From dimitribellini at ...69...  Fri Jun 13 19:06:35 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:06:35 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Wiki Translations
In-Reply-To: <200306131017.29224.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306121306.50889.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306131542.22928.dimitribellini@...69...> <200306131017.29224.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306131706.35523.dimitribellini@...69...>

On Friday 13 June 2003 14:17, Rob wrote:
> On Friday 13 June 2003 11:42, Dimitri Bellini wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 June 2003 17:06, Rob wrote:
> > > http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasItaliano/WebHome
> >
> > 	how can i translate the italian version?
>
> Just hit edit at the bottom of any page you'd like to start translating,
> and translate it, make sure to delete the "StillInEnglish" mark at the
> bottom of the page, and save your changes.
>
> If you guys find that it's too much work converting all this documentation
> manually, maybe I can come up with an abusive script that uses Google or
> Altavista to make a very poor translation that you can then clean up ;)
>
> That program I wrote to extract all the component class/symbol information
> should also be able to generate the information in other languages into
> which Gambas has been translated (I didn't hard code it into English or
> anything) so someone with Gambas translated into their language should run
> it and send me the output.  However, Benoit found a few bugs in the output
> so I'd ask you to hold off till I get another revision out.
>
> Rob

Hi Rob I try to translate manualy i think is the right way... :-)
bye
Dimitri




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun 13 19:25:48 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:25:48 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Wiki Translations
In-Reply-To: <EBEKLENODEEFLDLIEBFIIELJCAAA.inigo@...161...>
References: <EBEKLENODEEFLDLIEBFIIELJCAAA.inigo@...161...>
Message-ID: <200306131325.48113.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Friday 13 June 2003 01:59, Inigo Zuluaga wrote:
> It is possible?
> *****************************************************************
> http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/GambasEspanol/WebHome
> *****************************************************************
> (In Spanish)

OK, I've created the GambasEspanol web (at the above url) but I hope you're 
volunteering to do the translation.  As poor as my German and French are, my 
Spanish is far worse ;)

Rob




From gambas at ...162...  Sat Jun 14 01:23:56 2003
From: gambas at ...162... (Wojtek)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 01:23:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: pre-version of gambas (episode 4)
Message-ID: <200306132056.39764.gambas@...162...>

Suse 8.1, KDE 3.1, Qt 3.1.1

configure, make and install -> OK
size of gambas file = 645682
run gambas -> memory protection violation
run /opt/gambas/bin/gbx in ~/0.58pre4/app/gambas -> OK
open project ~/0.58pre4/app/gambas -> OK
run from IDE -> OK
Make executable -> OK
size of gambas file = 512277
copy gambas to /opt/gambas/bin and run -> memory protection violation

similarly gambas-database-manager

-- 
Wojciech Saltarski





From bsnipes at ...21...  Sat Jun 14 05:30:22 2003
From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes)
Date: 13 Jun 2003 22:30:22 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] pre-version of gambas (episode 4)
In-Reply-To: <200306122025.07233.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306122025.07233.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <1055561422.23369.1.camel@...73...>

Compiles and runs fine on my Gentoo box with the exception of the NVidia
OpenGL issue.  I did not have to specify the path to KDE libs and
includes.

Brian

On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 13:25, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> This post concerns the same as before.
> 
> I have uploaded a pre-version of gambas here:
> http://gambas.sourceforge.net/gambas-0.58pre4.tar.gz
> 
> This version may solve the same problems:
> - The crash on compilation (everywhere)
> - The crash on SuSE when running the IDE (maybe)
> - The crash when using NVidia driver (not sure)
> - The problem to find KDE paths on Gentoo
> 
> I hope this will solve the NVidia, the SuSE and gentoo problem. Elsewhere, I 
> have not idea left !
> 
> Regards,




From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun 14 13:20:55 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:20:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: pre-version of gambas (episode 4)
In-Reply-To: <200306132056.39764.gambas@...162...>
References: <200306132056.39764.gambas@...162...>
Message-ID: <200306141320.55167.gambas@...2...>

Le Samedi 14 Juin 2003 01:23, Wojtek a ?crit :
> Suse 8.1, KDE 3.1, Qt 3.1.1
>
> configure, make and install -> OK
> size of gambas file = 645682
> run gambas -> memory protection violation
> run /opt/gambas/bin/gbx in ~/0.58pre4/app/gambas -> OK
> open project ~/0.58pre4/app/gambas -> OK
> run from IDE -> OK
> Make executable -> OK
> size of gambas file = 512277
> copy gambas to /opt/gambas/bin and run -> memory protection violation
>
> similarly gambas-database-manager

Is it possible for you to give me an access to your system ?

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun 14 21:38:37 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:38:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.58
Message-ID: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>

Hi people,

Gambas 0.58 is out.

This version should work on: SuSE, Gentoo, RedHat, and on systems using 
drivers from NVidia !!

I must admit that I tested only on a Gentoo with a NVidia driver. But you will 
tell me :-)

Youu will find also a new TextView control to display rich text (i.e. almost 
HTML) and a more usable Printer class. Many bug fixes too (for example, the 
annoying delayed popup menu)

Enjoy it, and don't forget to give me feedback so that I fill the distribution 
notes on the web site.

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From Gambasfr at ...11...  Sat Jun 14 22:36:36 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 22:36:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.58
In-Reply-To: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306142236.36322.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Samedi 14 Juin 2003 21:38, Benoit Minisini a ?crit :
> Many bug fixes too (for example, the
> annoying delayed popup menu)

Thank you... i may finish my work soon now.

Fabien



From bsnipes at ...21...  Sun Jun 15 05:08:40 2003
From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes)
Date: 14 Jun 2003 22:08:40 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.58
In-Reply-To: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <1055646520.3365.2.camel@...73...>

I use Gentoo and still have the NVidia issue with this version. 
Everything else works fine.  I tried it on v4349 and on v4363 with same
results - a segfault starting Gambus unless I use 'opengl-update xfree'
before running Gambas.

Brian

On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 14:38, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Hi people,
> 
> Gambas 0.58 is out.
> 
> This version should work on: SuSE, Gentoo, RedHat, and on systems using 
> drivers from NVidia !!
> 
> I must admit that I tested only on a Gentoo with a NVidia driver. But you will 
> tell me :-)
> 
> Youu will find also a new TextView control to display rich text (i.e. almost 
> HTML) and a more usable Printer class. Many bug fixes too (for example, the 
> annoying delayed popup menu)
> 
> Enjoy it, and don't forget to give me feedback so that I fill the distribution 
> notes on the web site.
> 
> Regards,




From gambas at ...2...  Sun Jun 15 08:05:02 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 08:05:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.58
In-Reply-To: <1055646520.3365.2.camel@...73...>
References: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...> <1055646520.3365.2.camel@...73...>
Message-ID: <200306150805.02552.gambas@...2...>

Le Dimanche 15 Juin 2003 05:08, Brian Snipes a ?crit :
> I use Gentoo and still have the NVidia issue with this version.
> Everything else works fine.  I tried it on v4349 and on v4363 with same
> results - a segfault starting Gambus unless I use 'opengl-update xfree'
> before running Gambas.
>
> Brian
>

Hi Brian,

Could you grant me an access on your machine (ssh or telnet) ?

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From karl.reinl at ...9...  Sun Jun 15 20:22:40 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:22:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gentoo  and gambas
Message-ID: <3EECB970.9010100@...9...>

Salut,

I will have finished installation  Gentoo (1.4) soon ( compiling since 2 
h KDE on a 466 Mhz box).
This will be my first steps on it.

To all gentoo experienced user:
For gambas (0.58) my question is, how to install gambas on this distro. 
Haven't had a look, but I think thers now ebuilde.


I'm to unpationed :
Had made a ./configure (without DB )   --- said OK
and a make   --- said also OK

Any hints ?  Or just make the last of the three and it works ?

amicalement

Charlie








From karl.reinl at ...9...  Sun Jun 15 22:09:43 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 22:09:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 7.2 and gambas-0.58
Message-ID: <3EECD287.6010800@...9...>

Salut Beno?t,

still on my SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x

I'v got this when running make. ( wihtout KDE and pgsql)

Any help ? Thanks!

amicalement

Charlie 
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From cmcpero at ...142...  Sun Jun 15 23:51:03 2003
From: cmcpero at ...142... (Jean-Francois Perreault)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:51:03 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.58
In-Reply-To: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EECEA47.2070903@...142...>

Hi,

IT IS FULLY WORKING !

I made made first working hello world program
press F5 .. run
then alt+f7
then close gambas
then cd /root/helloworld
then gbx
my first gambas program running outside the IDE sweeet

Benoit Minisini wrote:

>Hi people,
>
>Gambas 0.58 is out.
>
>This version should work on: SuSE, Gentoo, RedHat, and on systems using 
>drivers from NVidia !!
>
>I must admit that I tested only on a Gentoo with a NVidia driver. But you will 
>tell me :-)
>
>Youu will find also a new TextView control to display rich text (i.e. almost 
>HTML) and a more usable Printer class. Many bug fixes too (for example, the 
>annoying delayed popup menu)
>
>Enjoy it, and don't forget to give me feedback so that I fill the distribution 
>notes on the web site.
>
>Regards,
>
>  
>


-- 
--------------------
Jean-Francois Perreault
NanoTech Informatique

UIN 783056
cmcpero at ...142...





From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Mon Jun 16 06:07:34 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:07:34 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.58
In-Reply-To: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306160002.50500.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 14 June 2003 15:38, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Enjoy it, and don't forget to give me feedback so that I fill the
> distribution notes on the web site.

I haven't really gotten too far into it, but for the first time gambas doesn't 
build on Mandrake 9.0 and it doesn't seem to be a one line fix like last 
time.  The problem seems to be in CPicture.cpp and I wonder if it's related 
to there being a moc file for it this time (I don't seem to have one from 
last time, and this one is empty).  The offending symbol seems to be 
QPaintDevice::x11AppRootWindow 
as follows:

c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I/usr/lib/qt3/include 
-I../../../src/share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -g -O0 -c CDialog.cpp    
-fPIC -DPIC -o CDialog.lo
/usr/lib/qt3/include/../bin/moc CPicture.h -o moc_CPicture.cpp
CPicture.h:0: Warning: No relevant classes found. No output generated.
/bin/sh ../../../libtool --mode=compile c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. 
-I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I../../../src/share    -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -g 
-O0 -c moc_CPicture.cpp
c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I/usr/lib/qt3/include 
-I../../../src/share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -g -O0 -c moc_CPicture.cpp    
-fPIC -DPIC -o moc_CPicture.lo
/bin/sh ../../../libtool --mode=compile c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. 
-I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I../../../src/share    -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -g 
-O0 -c CPicture.cpp
c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I/usr/lib/qt3/include 
-I../../../src/share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -g -O0 -c CPicture.cpp    
-fPIC -DPIC -o CPicture.lo
CPicture.cpp: In function `CPICTURE* CPICTURE_grab(int)':
CPicture.cpp:337: no method `QPaintDevice::x11AppRootWindow'
make[5]: *** [CPicture.lo] Error 1

I know, M 9.1 has been out for over 2 months, I should be more current ;)

Rob




From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116...  Mon Jun 16 11:08:08 2003
From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:08:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.58
In-Reply-To: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306161108.08596.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>

On Saturday 14 June 2003 09:38 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Hi people,
>
> Gambas 0.58 is out.
>
> This version should work on: SuSE, Gentoo, RedHat, and on systems using
> drivers from NVidia !!

It compiles fine on SuSE 8.2, but there's a little problem in install: it 
can't find the libqt-mt.so because the library is named differently.
This can be easily fixed with this command: 

ln -s     /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3      /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so

After that, the install procedure goes just fine. 
I've tried to fire up IDE and it opens just nicely, and it seem to work. 
However, when I tried to select different font for a text frame,  IDE bailed 
out with this message: 

FProperty.SaveProperty.256: #13: Null object

I've tried it several times, sometimes it changes the font to the desired 
value, sometimes it bails out... it seems that I can't reproduce it in 
consistent manner. I've tried to change fonts over and over, and sometimes 
it crashes, sometimes not. I presume it might happen in this case: since I 
have "focus follows mouse" and many windows open, it might be that I 
accidentaly switch focus to some other window, at which time properties 
window changes to reflect the other window, and when I try to apply new font, 
it crashes. I've tested this on source window, and it crashes every time:

1. I open a form, button, whatever
2. I click on font property of a regular object to get font chooser
3. I move my mouse over the source window, to give it a focus; properties 
window in fact does change to something (!)
4. I try to apply new font selection and voila - boom, crash, bang! :)

Now that would explain that "Null object". Is it possible to force Gambas to 
stick properties window to selected object, to avoid switching between 
objects and components just by moving the mouse over them?

-- 
Radoslav Dejanovi?
Operacijski sustavi d.o.o.     http://www.opsus.hr



From bernard.pre at ...62...  Tue Jun 17 13:35:12 2003
From: bernard.pre at ...62... (Bernard PRE)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:35:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas .58
Message-ID: <BPEGKIJLBGABMLEDGLHPEENGCCAA.bernard.pre@...62...>

Hi !

On redhat 9 i have no pb to compil but i have a bad issuue when i try to
execute gambas :
"/usr/bin.gbx: relocation error : /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined
symbol: _ZNSs4_Rep11_S_terminalE"

Bernard




From gambas at ...2...  Wed Jun 18 00:03:55 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:03:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] compilation error with qt 3.0
Message-ID: <200306180003.55867.gambas@...2...>

I have used a method in CPicture.cpp that exists only in qt 3.1 and not in qt 
3.0. So gambas 0.58 does not compile on systems based on qt 3.0.

As a temporary workaround, puts the line 336 and 337 in comments. But be 
careful, the gambas method Desktop.Grab will not work anymore.

Sorry for this inconvenience, but it is almost impossible to know exactly what 
TrollTech changes between two QT versions :-(

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From karl.reinl at ...9...  Wed Jun 18 00:01:27 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:01:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gentoo and gambas-0.58 work together
Message-ID: <3EEF8FB7.9050800@...9...>

Just for good news,

after setting up my old box with gentoo 1.4 (that took me some time with 
a 56 k modem) , had a 2 day fight with ppp and wvdial, but the problem 
were at the provider who made troubles at this time.
Now my gentoo 1.4 kde 3.1.2 qt-3.1.2 gcc 3.2.2 ran.
And gambas 0.58 too.

looks very easy to setup a gentoo, for who can read, thats all.

Charlie




From bsnipes at ...21...  Wed Jun 18 02:51:13 2003
From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes)
Date: 17 Jun 2003 19:51:13 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] gentoo and gambas-0.58 work together
In-Reply-To: <3EEF8FB7.9050800@...9...>
References: <3EEF8FB7.9050800@...9...>
Message-ID: <1055897473.4238.1.camel@...73...>

My problem is with the NVidia driver and Gambas.  By doing
'opengl-update xfree' I can run Gambas with no issues.  If I am using
the NVidia OpenGL modules, Gambas segfaults.

Brian

On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 17:01, Charlie wrote:
> Just for good news,
> 
> after setting up my old box with gentoo 1.4 (that took me some time with 
> a 56 k modem) , had a 2 day fight with ppp and wvdial, but the problem 
> were at the provider who made troubles at this time.
> Now my gentoo 1.4 kde 3.1.2 qt-3.1.2 gcc 3.2.2 ran.
> And gambas 0.58 too.
> 
> looks very easy to setup a gentoo, for who can read, thats all.
> 
> Charlie
> 
> 
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From bsnipes at ...21...  Wed Jun 18 03:49:15 2003
From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes)
Date: 17 Jun 2003 20:49:15 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] ListView
Message-ID: <1055900955.4406.2.camel@...73...>

Prepare for a bunch of simple questions from me since I am starting a
Gambas project that does more than exec-ing a binary.

Question #1:
How do I get the Key of a selected ListView item in order to delete it?

Brian





From bsnipes at ...21...  Wed Jun 18 04:02:54 2003
From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes)
Date: 17 Jun 2003 21:02:54 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] ListView
In-Reply-To: <1055900955.4406.2.camel@...73...>
References: <1055900955.4406.2.camel@...73...>
Message-ID: <1055901774.4401.4.camel@...73...>

Figured it out...   ListView.current.key

Brian

On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 20:49, Brian Snipes wrote:
> Prepare for a bunch of simple questions from me since I am starting a
> Gambas project that does more than exec-ing a binary.
> 
> Question #1:
> How do I get the Key of a selected ListView item in order to delete it?
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bsnipes at ...21...  Wed Jun 18 05:08:34 2003
From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes)
Date: 17 Jun 2003 22:08:34 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] ListView and Exec
Message-ID: <1055905714.4401.9.camel@...73...>

I am writing a program in which you input an ip or hostname, click the
Insert button and the host is pinged with the constant output inserted
into a ListView item line.

I have 2 questions:
1.  How can I spawn random Exec processes and keep track of the output?

2.  When I exec the 'ping hostname' command, the item line in the
ListView scrolls up by about 1/2 of the line.  Is this a ListView bug or
something that I might be doing wrong?

Thanks,
Brian




From gambas at ...2...  Wed Jun 18 18:06:55 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:06:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] News about me
Message-ID: <200306181806.55750.gambas@...2...>

I just wanted to tell everybody that I was fired this morning. 

I don't know what I'm going to do, i.e. if I will be able to find another 
half-time job. Because I want to continue learning acting, and developing 
Gambas of course !

So, maybe it is a bad news, or maybe it is a good news. It depends on what 
will happen to me...

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From vilainm at ...43...  Wed Jun 18 20:03:44 2003
From: vilainm at ...43... (michel vilain)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:03:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Running at last!!!
Message-ID: <20030618180344.6199.qmail@...163...>

Yup, on my NVidia based Mdk9.1 box, I can finally
compile and start Gambas! I even succeeded in making a
standalone "Hello World" program. This will be fun.
I did a ./configure, make and (as root) make install.
Now, root can run Gambas just fine, but as user, I
got:
sh: line 1: /tmp/gambas/2485.1.tmp: Permission denied
Project.InitVersion.152: #43: Access forbidden
Now, after changing permisions on /temp/gambas, all is
well....

Benoit, I'm really sorry to hear about your job
misfortune. I hope (and I'm sure we all do) that you
find a replacement job pretty quick. 

__________________________________
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From girardhenri at ...67...  Wed Jun 18 23:24:43 2003
From: girardhenri at ...67... (HG)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:24:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Running at last!!!
References: <20030618180344.6199.qmail@...163...>
Message-ID: <BAY8-DAV26yg35sQtgT00026e34@...67...>

good... on my redhat 9 compilation ok... doesn't start : relocation error
/usr/bin/gbx ?
/usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so : undefined symbol: _ZNSs4_Rep11_S_terminalE
help needed
HG
----- Original Message -----
From: "michel vilain" <vilainm at ...43...>
To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:03 PM
Subject: [Gambas-user] Running at last!!!


> Yup, on my NVidia based Mdk9.1 box, I can finally
> compile and start Gambas! I even succeeded in making a
> standalone "Hello World" program. This will be fun.
> I did a ./configure, make and (as root) make install.
> Now, root can run Gambas just fine, but as user, I
> got:
> sh: line 1: /tmp/gambas/2485.1.tmp: Permission denied
> Project.InitVersion.152: #43: Access forbidden
> Now, after changing permisions on /temp/gambas, all is
> well....
>
> Benoit, I'm really sorry to hear about your job
> misfortune. I hope (and I'm sure we all do) that you
> find a replacement job pretty quick.
>
> __________________________________
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> SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
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From carlo.m at ...122...  Wed Jun 18 23:45:13 2003
From: carlo.m at ...122... (Carlo Malfatti)
Date: 18 Jun 2003 23:45:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Running at last!!!
In-Reply-To: <BAY8-DAV26yg35sQtgT00026e34@...67...>
References: <20030618180344.6199.qmail@...163...>
	 <BAY8-DAV26yg35sQtgT00026e34@...67...>
Message-ID: <1055972712.3528.3.camel@...56...>

I've solved this problem (undefined symbol) on rh9 by upgrading qt
library, using those in redhat rawhide
(http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/redhat/rawhide/)

Regards,
Carlo

Il mer, 2003-06-18 alle 23:24, HG ha scritto:
> good... on my redhat 9 compilation ok... doesn't start : relocation error
> /usr/bin/gbx ?
> /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so : undefined symbol: _ZNSs4_Rep11_S_terminalE
> help needed
> HG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "michel vilain" <vilainm at ...43...>
> To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:03 PM
> Subject: [Gambas-user] Running at last!!!
> 
> 
> > Yup, on my NVidia based Mdk9.1 box, I can finally
> > compile and start Gambas! I even succeeded in making a
> > standalone "Hello World" program. This will be fun.
> > I did a ./configure, make and (as root) make install.
> > Now, root can run Gambas just fine, but as user, I
> > got:
> > sh: line 1: /tmp/gambas/2485.1.tmp: Permission denied
> > Project.InitVersion.152: #43: Access forbidden
> > Now, after changing permisions on /temp/gambas, all is
> > well....
> >
> > Benoit, I'm really sorry to hear about your job
> > misfortune. I hope (and I'm sure we all do) that you
> > find a replacement job pretty quick.
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
> > http://sbc.yahoo.com
> >
> >
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From jochen.georges at ...22...  Thu Jun 19 00:37:54 2003
From: jochen.georges at ...22... (Jochen Georges)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:37:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] News about me
In-Reply-To: <200306181806.55750.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306181806.55750.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306190037.54038.jochen.georges@...22...>

On Wednesday 18 June 2003 18:06, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> I just wanted to tell everybody that I was fired this morning.

oh shit

> I don't know what I'm going to do, i.e. if I will be able to find another
> half-time job. Because I want to continue learning acting, and developing
> Gambas of course !

i wish you tons and tons of luck!!!

beste gruesse
jochen




From inigo at ...161...  Thu Jun 19 10:52:47 2003
From: inigo at ...161... (Inigo Zuluaga)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:52:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] compilation error with qt 3.0
In-Reply-To: <200306180003.55867.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <EBEKLENODEEFLDLIEBFIOELPCAAA.inigo@...161...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]En nombre de Benoit
Minisini
Enviado el: miercoles, 18 de junio de 2003 0:04
Para: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Asunto: [Gambas-user] compilation error with qt 3.0

I have used a method in CPicture.cpp that exists only in qt 3.1 and not in
qt
3.0. So gambas 0.58 does not compile on systems based on qt 3.0.

As a temporary workaround, puts the line 336 and 337 in comments. But be
careful, the gambas method Desktop.Grab will not work anymore.

************************
That file?
Which it is the content of the lines to comment?
**************************

Thanks




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Thu Jun 19 14:03:24 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:03:24 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] compilation error with qt 3.0
In-Reply-To: <EBEKLENODEEFLDLIEBFIOELPCAAA.inigo@...161...>
References: <EBEKLENODEEFLDLIEBFIOELPCAAA.inigo@...161...>
Message-ID: <200306190803.24111.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Thursday 19 June 2003 04:52, Inigo Zuluaga wrote:
> That file?
> Which it is the content of the lines to comment?

  if (wid == 0)
        wid = QPaintDevice::x11AppRootWindow();

but I only commented out the wid = QPaintDevice.... line and added after it,

    { pict = NULL; return pict; }

thinking that the subsequent lines might barf on wid == 0.

I don't know whether mine will cause coredumps or not (haven't made it into a 
patch so I could build an RPM yet, been working under deadline) but it did 
compile ;)

Rob





From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun 21 11:57:05 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:57:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.58
In-Reply-To: <200306161108.08596.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>
References: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...> <200306161108.08596.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>
Message-ID: <200306211157.05981.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 16 Juin 2003 11:08, Radoslav Dejanovic a ?crit :
> On Saturday 14 June 2003 09:38 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > Hi people,
> >
> > Gambas 0.58 is out.
> >
> > This version should work on: SuSE, Gentoo, RedHat, and on systems using
> > drivers from NVidia !!
>
> It compiles fine on SuSE 8.2, but there's a little problem in install: it
> can't find the libqt-mt.so because the library is named differently.
> This can be easily fixed with this command:
>
> ln -s     /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3      /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so
>
> After that, the install procedure goes just fine.
> I've tried to fire up IDE and it opens just nicely, and it seem to work.
> However, when I tried to select different font for a text frame,  IDE
> bailed out with this message:
>
> FProperty.SaveProperty.256: #13: Null object
>
> I've tried it several times, sometimes it changes the font to the desired
> value, sometimes it bails out... it seems that I can't reproduce it in
> consistent manner. I've tried to change fonts over and over, and sometimes
> it crashes, sometimes not. I presume it might happen in this case: since I
> have "focus follows mouse" and many windows open, it might be that I
> accidentaly switch focus to some other window, at which time properties
> window changes to reflect the other window, and when I try to apply new
> font, it crashes. I've tested this on source window, and it crashes every
> time:
>
> 1. I open a form, button, whatever
> 2. I click on font property of a regular object to get font chooser
> 3. I move my mouse over the source window, to give it a focus; properties
> window in fact does change to something (!)
> 4. I try to apply new font selection and voila - boom, crash, bang! :)
>
> Now that would explain that "Null object". Is it possible to force Gambas
> to stick properties window to selected object, to avoid switching between
> objects and components just by moving the mouse over them?

Thanks. I fixed it !

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From lmorselli at ...86...  Sat Jun 21 19:09:56 2003
From: lmorselli at ...86... (Lorenzo Morselli)
Date: 21 Jun 2003 19:09:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.58
In-Reply-To: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306142138.37019.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <1055786441.22122.2.camel@...40...>

On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 21:38, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Hi people,
> 
> Gambas 0.58 is out.
> 
> This version should work on: SuSE, Gentoo, RedHat, and on systems using 
> drivers from NVidia !!
> 
> I must admit that I tested only on a Gentoo with a NVidia driver. But you will 
> tell me :-)

On Mandrake 9.1 and NVidia it works.
I' can't compile it on Red Hat 8.0, I'll try again tomorrow.

Bye.
-- 
Lorenzo Morselli
http://spazioinwind.libero.it/lmorselli/





From gambas at ...2...  Sun Jun 22 12:39:18 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:39:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: gambas 0.58 install error
In-Reply-To: <200306211905.47391.vozkev@...159...>
References: <200306211905.47391.vozkev@...159...>
Message-ID: <200306221239.18918.gambas@...2...>

Le Dimanche 22 Juin 2003 04:05, vous avez ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to compile/install v 0.58 of gambas on a SuSE 8.1 system 
> running KDE 3.1.1 and qt3.1.2.
>
> I downloaded the tarball and get to the point of doing a make install and
> everything comes to a screeching halt.  It all appears to compile with the
> switches, but has a problem in the install.
>
> Included is the directory listing where the library is referenced (as a
> link).
>
> When compiled, I tried a ./reconf and make clean before actually generating
> the output.txt file using switches shown (below), but the error is always
> occurring at the same point during install.
>
> Other details:
>
> hardware: intel p4; 2.2Ghz, 1GB ram,
>
> glibc v.2.2.5-184
>
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 # gcc --version
> gcc (GCC) 3.2
> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 #
>
>
>
> Here's the command I used to produce output.txt and an excerpt around where
> I get the error:
>
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 # (./configure --with-kde-libraries=/opt/kde3/lib/
> --with-kde-includes=/opt/kde3/include/ --disable-pgsql-driver
> --disable-mysql-driver ; make ; make install ) > output.txt 2>&1
>
>
> .
> .
> .
>
> Making symbolic links in /usr/bin...
>
> Compiling and installing the development environment...
> Compiling gambas...
> OK
> Compiling gambas-database-manager...
> OK
>
> Creating the library info files...
> /opt/gambas/bin/gbi: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so:
> cannot open shared obje
> ct file: No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [install-exec-local] Error 127
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gambas-0.58'
> make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gambas-0.58'
> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 #
>
>
> Lsting of the directory with ref to library that is complained about:
>
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 # ll /usr/lib/qt3/lib
> total 19614
> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root          736 2003-04-16 15:48 .
> drwxr-xr-x   12 root     root          312 2003-04-16 15:48 ..
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      6073940 2003-03-26 17:33 libdesigner.a
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          976 2003-03-26 17:32 libdesigner.prl
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       378218 2003-03-26 17:33 libeditor.a
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          836 2003-03-26 17:32 libeditor.prl
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        18362 2003-03-26 17:33
> libqassistantclient.a
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          847 2003-03-26 17:32
> libqassistantclient.prl
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          696 2003-03-26 16:21 libqt-mt.prl
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 2003-04-16 15:31 libqt-mt.so ->
> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 2003-04-16 15:28 libqt-mt.so.3
> -> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 2003-04-16 15:28 libqt-mt.so.3.1
> -> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root      6693968 2003-03-26 16:21
> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2 -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          668 2003-03-26
> 15:33 libqt.prl lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 2003-04-16 15:33
> libqt.so -> libqt.so.3.1.2
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 2003-04-16 15:33 libqt.so.3 ->
> libqt.so.3.1.2
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 2003-04-16 15:33 libqt.so.3.1 ->
> libqt.so.3.1.2
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root      6661088 2003-03-26 15:33 libqt.so.3.1.2
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          609 2003-03-26 16:22 libqui.prl
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           15 2003-04-16 15:31 libqui.so ->
> libqui.so.1.0.0
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           15 2003-04-16 15:28 libqui.so.1 ->
> libqui.so.1.0.0
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           15 2003-04-16 15:28 libqui.so.1.0
> -> libqui.so.1.0.0
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       201776 2003-03-26 16:22 libqui.so.1.0.0
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 #
>
>
> attached is output.txt file
>
>
> any suggestions appreciated. TIA,
> Kevin

Hi, Kevin.

I think the problem comes from the fact that that the qt libary are preloaded 
by gbi and gbx, to avoid a crash, and that the qt library is not in the 
library path under SuSE 8.1

Could you try to lauch gbi by hand this way to confirm my supposition ?

$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/qt3/lib gbi

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From henrigirard at ...11...  Sun Jun 22 17:25:01 2003
From: henrigirard at ...11... (HG)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:25:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] unsubscribe
References: <200306211905.47391.vozkev@...159...> <200306221239.18918.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <003401c338d2$72f0fef0$0100a8c0@...164...>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benoit Minisini" <gambas at ...2...>
To: "K. Vosburgh" <vozkev at ...159...>;
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 12:39 PM
Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: gambas 0.58 install error


Le Dimanche 22 Juin 2003 04:05, vous avez ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to compile/install v 0.58 of gambas on a SuSE 8.1 system
> running KDE 3.1.1 and qt3.1.2.
>
> I downloaded the tarball and get to the point of doing a make install and
> everything comes to a screeching halt.  It all appears to compile with the
> switches, but has a problem in the install.
>
> Included is the directory listing where the library is referenced (as a
> link).
>
> When compiled, I tried a ./reconf and make clean before actually
generating
> the output.txt file using switches shown (below), but the error is always
> occurring at the same point during install.
>
> Other details:
>
> hardware: intel p4; 2.2Ghz, 1GB ram,
>
> glibc v.2.2.5-184
>
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 # gcc --version
> gcc (GCC) 3.2
> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE.
>
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 #
>
>
>
> Here's the command I used to produce output.txt and an excerpt around
where
> I get the error:
>
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 #
(./configure --with-kde-libraries=/opt/kde3/lib/
> --with-kde-includes=/opt/kde3/include/ --disable-pgsql-driver
> --disable-mysql-driver ; make ; make install ) > output.txt 2>&1
>
>
> .
> .
> .
>
> Making symbolic links in /usr/bin...
>
> Compiling and installing the development environment...
> Compiling gambas...
> OK
> Compiling gambas-database-manager...
> OK
>
> Creating the library info files...
> /opt/gambas/bin/gbi: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so:
> cannot open shared obje
> ct file: No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [install-exec-local] Error 127
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gambas-0.58'
> make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gambas-0.58'
> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 #
>
>
> Lsting of the directory with ref to library that is complained about:
>
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 # ll /usr/lib/qt3/lib
> total 19614
> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root          736 2003-04-16 15:48 .
> drwxr-xr-x   12 root     root          312 2003-04-16 15:48 ..
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root      6073940 2003-03-26 17:33 libdesigner.a
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          976 2003-03-26 17:32
libdesigner.prl
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       378218 2003-03-26 17:33 libeditor.a
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          836 2003-03-26 17:32 libeditor.prl
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        18362 2003-03-26 17:33
> libqassistantclient.a
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          847 2003-03-26 17:32
> libqassistantclient.prl
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          696 2003-03-26 16:21 libqt-mt.prl
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 2003-04-16 15:31 libqt-mt.so ->
> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 2003-04-16 15:28 libqt-mt.so.3
> -> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 2003-04-16 15:28
libqt-mt.so.3.1
> -> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root      6693968 2003-03-26 16:21
> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2 -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          668 2003-03-26
> 15:33 libqt.prl lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 2003-04-16
15:33
> libqt.so -> libqt.so.3.1.2
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 2003-04-16 15:33 libqt.so.3 ->
> libqt.so.3.1.2
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 2003-04-16 15:33
libqt.so.3.1 ->
> libqt.so.3.1.2
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root      6661088 2003-03-26 15:33 libqt.so.3.1.2
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          609 2003-03-26 16:22 libqui.prl
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           15 2003-04-16 15:31 libqui.so ->
> libqui.so.1.0.0
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           15 2003-04-16 15:28 libqui.so.1 ->
> libqui.so.1.0.0
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           15 2003-04-16 15:28 libqui.so.1.0
> -> libqui.so.1.0.0
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       201776 2003-03-26 16:22
libqui.so.1.0.0
> ratbert:/tmp/gambas-0.58 #
>
>
> attached is output.txt file
>
>
> any suggestions appreciated. TIA,
> Kevin

Hi, Kevin.

I think the problem comes from the fact that that the qt libary are
preloaded
by gbi and gbx, to avoid a crash, and that the qt library is not in the
library path under SuSE 8.1

Could you try to lauch gbi by hand this way to confirm my supposition ?

$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/qt3/lib gbi

Regards,

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From kannan62k at ...43...  Sun Jun 22 20:06:45 2003
From: kannan62k at ...43... (Kannan Ramasamy)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 11:06:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] make error with missing qt-mt file
Message-ID: <20030622180645.30475.qmail@...165...>

Hi,


I jus installed qt-3.1.1 and to dismay, install exited
with not finding a libqt-mt library.


What hav i missed?



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From kannan62k at ...43...  Sun Jun 22 20:10:34 2003
From: kannan62k at ...43... (Kannan Ramasamy)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 11:10:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20030622181034.15106.qmail@...167...>

Following is the error while using lib-qt-mt of
bundled with qt3-3.0.5


[root at ...166... lib]# gbi -V
gbi-0.58
[root at ...166... lib]# gambas
ERROR: #27: Cannot load library
'/opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.la':
/opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.so.0: undefined symbol:
_ZN6QFrame11styleChangeER6QStyle


This is for ur info.



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From sirtim at ...168...  Mon Jun 23 09:25:22 2003
From: sirtim at ...168... (Tim Broddin)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:25:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Startup issue
Message-ID: <3EF6AB62.4090203@...168...>

Hi,

I'm relatively new to Linux and when I since a worked a lot with VB in 
the past I really wanted to start developing with Gambas. Compilation 
went fine but when I start gambas I get this error:

/usr/bin/gbx: relocation error: /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so: 
undefined symbol: _ZNSs4_Rep11_S_terminalE

I'm using Gambas 0.58 on a Red Hat 9 box.

Anyone knows how to resolve this?

Kind regards

Tim




From girardhenri at ...67...  Mon Jun 23 09:45:47 2003
From: girardhenri at ...67... (HG)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:45:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Startup issue
References: <3EF6AB62.4090203@...168...>
Message-ID: <BAY8-DAV38NMOGGORm10002b3ce@...67...>

i have the same problem... in gambas archives someone answered few days ago
saying to get the rpm from another location ... look in archives 3 days
ago.. I hadn't time to do it yet (i think it's in fresh meat rpm.. not
sure...)
good luck
HG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Broddin" <sirtim at ...168...>
To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:25 AM
Subject: [Gambas-user] Startup issue


> Hi,
>
> I'm relatively new to Linux and when I since a worked a lot with VB in
> the past I really wanted to start developing with Gambas. Compilation
> went fine but when I start gambas I get this error:
>
> /usr/bin/gbx: relocation error: /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so:
> undefined symbol: _ZNSs4_Rep11_S_terminalE
>
> I'm using Gambas 0.58 on a Red Hat 9 box.
>
> Anyone knows how to resolve this?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun 23 11:32:42 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:32:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Startup issue
In-Reply-To: <3EF6AB62.4090203@...168...>
References: <3EF6AB62.4090203@...168...>
Message-ID: <200306231132.43055.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 23 Juin 2003 09:25, Tim Broddin a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> I'm relatively new to Linux and when I since a worked a lot with VB in
> the past I really wanted to start developing with Gambas. Compilation
> went fine but when I start gambas I get this error:
>
> /usr/bin/gbx: relocation error: /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so:
> undefined symbol: _ZNSs4_Rep11_S_terminalE
>
> I'm using Gambas 0.58 on a Red Hat 9 box.
>
> Anyone knows how to resolve this?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Tim
>

I put the solution on the "important notes" page on the website.
Regards,

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From secmon at ...169...  Mon Jun 23 12:42:09 2003
From: secmon at ...169... (Henry Ismaili)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:42:09 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
Message-ID: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...>

i know there is a Message box in Gambas, but is there such a thing as an INPUT 
box?

regards,

Henry.




From Gambasfr at ...11...  Mon Jun 23 21:27:01 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:27:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
In-Reply-To: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...>
References: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...>
Message-ID: <200306232127.01704.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Lundi 23 Juin 2003 12:42, Henry Ismaili a ?crit :
> i know there is a Message box in Gambas, but is there such a thing as an
> INPUT box?
>
> regards,
>
> Henry.
>
>
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Can't you make it yourself ?

No, input box doesn't exist in gambas !

There isn't really hard work to make a little reusable input box !

Look the ide for it !

Fabien




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Mon Jun 23 21:50:48 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:50:48 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
In-Reply-To: <200306232127.01704.Gambasfr@...11...>
References: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...> <200306232127.01704.Gambasfr@...11...>
Message-ID: <200306231550.48398.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Monday 23 June 2003 15:27, Fabien wrote:
> Can't you make it yourself ?
> No, input box doesn't exist in gambas !
> There isn't really hard work to make a little reusable input box !
> Look the ide for it !

Just the same, I'll add that to the "Differences from VB" page since there 
it's a pretty commonly used 1 line of code and here it's a minimum of 3 lines 
of code plus an extra form and class in each project that uses it.

What would be cool would be if it were possible to actually write components 
in Gambas (the way you can write VB controls in VB) so your projects don't 
have to get cluttered up with extra classes that implement pretty basic 
functionality like this but you also don't have to learn C (or in this case 
C++ since it's Qt) just to write reusable Gambas components.  There's 
precedent in other high level Unix languages as well - Perl, Tcl, etc.  I 
don't know if Gambas' architecture makes that possible, though.

Maybe the concept of "Gambas libraries" - code files that act more or less 
like components (add available classes to your projects) but aren't located 
in the same directory as your Gambas project and are written in Gambas (but 
invisible to the user in the IDE, so they can't accidentally be messed up) -  
would be a nice compromise.  That would require changes to the language as 
well, of course.

Rob




From dimitribellini at ...69...  Tue Jun 24 02:24:23 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:24:23 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
In-Reply-To: <200306231550.48398.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...> <200306232127.01704.Gambasfr@...11...> <200306231550.48398.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306240027.32669.dimitribellini@...69...>

On Monday 23 June 2003 19:50, Rob wrote:
> On Monday 23 June 2003 15:27, Fabien wrote:
> > Can't you make it yourself ?
> > No, input box doesn't exist in gambas !
> > There isn't really hard work to make a little reusable input box !
> > Look the ide for it !
>
> Just the same, I'll add that to the "Differences from VB" page since there
> it's a pretty commonly used 1 line of code and here it's a minimum of 3
> lines of code plus an extra form and class in each project that uses it.
>
> What would be cool would be if it were possible to actually write
> components in Gambas (the way you can write VB controls in VB) so your
> projects don't have to get cluttered up with extra classes that implement
> pretty basic functionality like this but you also don't have to learn C (or
> in this case C++ since it's Qt) just to write reusable Gambas components. 
> There's precedent in other high level Unix languages as well - Perl, Tcl,
> etc.  I don't know if Gambas' architecture makes that possible, though.
>
> Maybe the concept of "Gambas libraries" - code files that act more or less
> like components (add available classes to your projects) but aren't located
> in the same directory as your Gambas project and are written in Gambas (but
> invisible to the user in the IDE, so they can't accidentally be messed up)
> - would be a nice compromise.  That would require changes to the language
> as well, of course.
>
> Rob
>
Nice idea Rob!!
Thanks Benoit
Dimitri





From gambas at ...2...  Tue Jun 24 10:15:35 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:15:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
In-Reply-To: <200306231550.48398.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...> <200306232127.01704.Gambasfr@...11...> <200306231550.48398.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306241015.35481.gambas@...2...>

Le Lundi 23 Juin 2003 21:50, Rob a ?crit :
> On Monday 23 June 2003 15:27, Fabien wrote:
> > Can't you make it yourself ?
> > No, input box doesn't exist in gambas !
> > There isn't really hard work to make a little reusable input box !
> > Look the ide for it !
>
> Just the same, I'll add that to the "Differences from VB" page since there
> it's a pretty commonly used 1 line of code and here it's a minimum of 3
> lines of code plus an extra form and class in each project that uses it.
>
> What would be cool would be if it were possible to actually write
> components in Gambas (the way you can write VB controls in VB) so your
> projects don't have to get cluttered up with extra classes that implement
> pretty basic functionality like this but you also don't have to learn C (or
> in this case C++ since it's Qt) just to write reusable Gambas components. 
> There's precedent in other high level Unix languages as well - Perl, Tcl,
> etc.  I don't know if Gambas' architecture makes that possible, though.
>
> Maybe the concept of "Gambas libraries" - code files that act more or less
> like components (add available classes to your projects) but aren't located
> in the same directory as your Gambas project and are written in Gambas (but
> invisible to the user in the IDE, so they can't accidentally be messed up)
> - would be a nice compromise.  That would require changes to the language
> as well, of course.
>
> Rob
>

This is planned :-)

-- 
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From secmon at ...169...  Tue Jun 24 13:51:54 2003
From: secmon at ...169... (Henry Ismaili)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:51:54 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
In-Reply-To: <200306241015.35481.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...> <200306231550.48398.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306241015.35481.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306242151.54153.secmon@...169...>

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:15, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Le Lundi 23 Juin 2003 21:50, Rob a ?crit :
> > On Monday 23 June 2003 15:27, Fabien wrote:
> > > Can't you make it yourself ?
> > > No, input box doesn't exist in gambas !
> > > There isn't really hard work to make a little reusable input box !
> > > Look the ide for it !
> >
> > Just the same, I'll add that to the "Differences from VB" page since
> > there it's a pretty commonly used 1 line of code and here it's a minimum
> > of 3 lines of code plus an extra form and class in each project that uses
> > it.
> >
> > What would be cool would be if it were possible to actually write
> > components in Gambas (the way you can write VB controls in VB) so your
> > projects don't have to get cluttered up with extra classes that implement
> > pretty basic functionality like this but you also don't have to learn C
> > (or in this case C++ since it's Qt) just to write reusable Gambas
> > components. There's precedent in other high level Unix languages as well
> > - Perl, Tcl, etc.  I don't know if Gambas' architecture makes that
> > possible, though.
> >
> > Maybe the concept of "Gambas libraries" - code files that act more or
> > less like components (add available classes to your projects) but aren't
> > located in the same directory as your Gambas project and are written in
> > Gambas (but invisible to the user in the IDE, so they can't accidentally
> > be messed up) - would be a nice compromise.  That would require changes
> > to the language as well, of course.
> >
> > Rob
>
> This is planned :-)

I used to use a program called VB Sourcebook, when i used to use VB. All it 
was, was a collection of Functions and Procedures that u can import into your 
project. I've created a few functions and procedures in a module, that i use 
for projects in Gambas. ie a combobox function where u pass just the 
variables and the function does the rest. (query db, fill combolist etc)

maybe this is kind of another option ...




From secmon at ...169...  Tue Jun 24 15:42:23 2003
From: secmon at ...169... (Henry Ismaili)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:42:23 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Leavng a SUB
Message-ID: <200306242342.23572.secmon@...169...>

Is this the way it's supposed to be done ...

PUBLIC SUB Button2_Click()
  
  IF textbox1.text = "" THEN
    Message.Question("You must enter a number", "OK")
    GOTO B2_END
  END IF  
  
  PRINT textbox1.text

B2_END:

END

I know in VB, instead of the GOTO, u place an 'EXIT SUB".

Regards,

Henry




From Gambasfr at ...11...  Tue Jun 24 20:45:27 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:45:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Leavng a SUB
In-Reply-To: <200306242342.23572.secmon@...169...>
References: <200306242342.23572.secmon@...169...>
Message-ID: <200306242045.27628.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Mardi 24 Juin 2003 15:42, Henry Ismaili a ?crit :
> Is this the way it's supposed to be done ...
>
> PUBLIC SUB Button2_Click()
>
>   IF textbox1.text = "" THEN
>     Message.Question("You must enter a number", "OK")
>     GOTO B2_END
>   END IF
>
>   PRINT textbox1.text
>
> B2_END:
>
> END
>
> I know in VB, instead of the GOTO, u place an 'EXIT SUB".
>
> Regards,
>
> Henry
>
>
>
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 Salut

You can use the RETURN keyword !

Return have two act in gambas :
 - simply RETURN to leave the sub
- RETURN $result       to return a function result


Exemple for function :

in vb 

Public Function Weather (Value as Integer) as String

  if Value = 1 then 
    Weather = Sunny
    Exit Function
  End if  

    Weather = Cloudy
End select

End Function


The same in Gambas : 

PUBLIC FUNCTION Weather (Value as Integer) as String

  IF Value = 1 THEN  RETURN Sunny  
  RETURN Cloudy

End select

END

Gambas is great !

Fabien



From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Tue Jun 24 23:13:29 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:13:29 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] the "differences from VB" page
Message-ID: <200306241713.29706.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

I updated that page for users coming from VB environments today a little bit 
based on the recent discussions here (RETURN vs. EXIT SUB, InputBox etc.) If 
anyone would like to add anything to it (even if it's a question for the rest 
of us to answer), please do.  It's been too long since I used VB myself to 
notice some of these differences that trip longtime VB users up.

I also just had a pretty hardcore VB user ask me to package up Gambas, my MDI 
hack of it, and the source and documentation on a CD for his Linux laptop so 
I imagine in the next week or so I'll have lots more to add ;)

Rob




From kannan62k at ...43...  Wed Jun 25 04:50:29 2003
From: kannan62k at ...43... (Kannan Ramasamy)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Diff. with VB
Message-ID: <20030625025029.49348.qmail@...170...>

Hi,


The differences, i think, are minimal when it comes to
overall deliverance and the direct link with QT and a
C compiler is the best mix anyone can desire.


At this outset, I would like to see these controls:

1. Datepicker

2. Database/Table link

3. Reporting Tool



Packaging was something I conveyed Beniot sometime
back and Im the in the process of building/selling 
Linux Boxes here, I live in Chennai(Madras)/Tamil
Nadu/India. Im planning to package some of the famous
Freeware/Sourceforge projects with the system.

Regards 



R S Kannan


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From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Wed Jun 25 05:33:48 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:33:48 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Diff. with VB
In-Reply-To: <20030625025029.49348.qmail@...170...>
References: <20030625025029.49348.qmail@...170...>
Message-ID: <200306242333.48475.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Tuesday 24 June 2003 22:50, Kannan Ramasamy wrote:
> At this outset, I would like to see these controls:
> 1. Datepicker
> 2. Database/Table link
> 3. Reporting Tool

I think that all of these things would be better implemented in Gambas (using 
whatever mechanism Benoit comes up with - see his brief note on the InputBox 
thread) rather than writing new components for them in C++ and Qt (which 
would then have to be reimplemented when Gambas gets a 
Gtk/Win32/Cocoa/whatever component.)  

I've done a lot with the Printer object in VB for report generation because 
the included Crystal Reports (and indeed, the expensive retail one) sucks ass 
and crashes a lot, so I expect to be experimenting with the Gambas 
equivalent, and the other two items on your list would best be implemented as 
compound widgets, to use a Tcl term.

That said, I don't want to dissuade anyone (including you!) from tackling any 
of these ideas if you would rather not wait for someone else to do so.

> Packaging was something I conveyed Beniot sometime
> back and Im the in the process of building/selling
> Linux Boxes here, I live in Chennai(Madras)/Tamil
> Nadu/India. Im planning to package some of the famous
> Freeware/Sourceforge projects with the system.

You mean packaging of Gambas itself, or packaging of Gambas projects?  If you 
meant the former, I think campaigning for distributions to include Gambas 
(and failing that, getting people like you and me to build them for our 
favorite distribution) makes more sense than trying to convince Benoit to 
install every distribution on the face of the earth to tediously build 
packages ;)

If you meant the latter, I could certainly see Gambas setup tools for RPM- and 
apt-based distributions that start with the tarball created by the "make 
package" menu option and end up with your package format of choice.  I'll 
probably write one for RPM when I have time (read: down my priority list a 
ways, behind getting the wiki docs all straightened out and making my first 
attempt at a VB->Gambas form translator.)

Rob




From nigel at ...38...  Wed Jun 25 13:59:09 2003
From: nigel at ...38... (Nigel Gerrard)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:59:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
References: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...> <200306232127.01704.Gambasfr@...11...> <200306231550.48398.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306241015.35481.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <008401c33b11$52c438e0$000a0a0a@...171...>

Back in January I submitted the following component for inclusion in
gambas. At the time Benoit thought the InputBox of VB a bad idea, so
it didn't get included.  Perhaps we'll try again :-)

Nigel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benoit Minisini" <gambas at ...2...>
To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] input box


Le Lundi 23 Juin 2003 21:50, Rob a ?crit :
> On Monday 23 June 2003 15:27, Fabien wrote:
> > Can't you make it yourself ?
> > No, input box doesn't exist in gambas !
> > There isn't really hard work to make a little reusable input box !
> > Look the ide for it !
>
> Just the same, I'll add that to the "Differences from VB" page since there
> it's a pretty commonly used 1 line of code and here it's a minimum of 3
> lines of code plus an extra form and class in each project that uses it.
>
> What would be cool would be if it were possible to actually write
> components in Gambas (the way you can write VB controls in VB) so your
> projects don't have to get cluttered up with extra classes that implement
> pretty basic functionality like this but you also don't have to learn C
(or
> in this case C++ since it's Qt) just to write reusable Gambas components.
> There's precedent in other high level Unix languages as well - Perl, Tcl,
> etc.  I don't know if Gambas' architecture makes that possible, though.
>
> Maybe the concept of "Gambas libraries" - code files that act more or less
> like components (add available classes to your projects) but aren't
located
> in the same directory as your Gambas project and are written in Gambas
(but
> invisible to the user in the IDE, so they can't accidentally be messed up)
> - would be a nice compromise.  That would require changes to the language
> as well, of course.
>
> Rob
>

This is planned :-)

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From gambas at ...2...  Wed Jun 25 14:27:44 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:27:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
In-Reply-To: <008401c33b11$52c438e0$000a0a0a@...171...>
References: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...> <200306241015.35481.gambas@...2...> <008401c33b11$52c438e0$000a0a0a@...171...>
Message-ID: <200306251427.44428.gambas@...2...>

Le Mercredi 25 Juin 2003 13:59, Nigel Gerrard a ?crit :
> Back in January I submitted the following component for inclusion in
> gambas. At the time Benoit thought the InputBox of VB a bad idea, so
> it didn't get included.  Perhaps we'll try again :-)
>
> Nigel
>

I think it is better to do such a thing in Gambas, and to let a Gambas project 
use another Gambas project as a library.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Wed Jun 25 14:31:05 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:31:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Diff. with VB
In-Reply-To: <20030625025029.49348.qmail@...170...>
References: <20030625025029.49348.qmail@...170...>
Message-ID: <200306251431.05141.gambas@...2...>

Le Mercredi 25 Juin 2003 04:50, Kannan Ramasamy a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
>
> The differences, i think, are minimal when it comes to
> overall deliverance and the direct link with QT and a
> C compiler is the best mix anyone can desire.
>
>
> At this outset, I would like to see these controls:
>
> 1. Datepicker

I just tried to integrate the DatePicker widget of KDE, but it strangely 
crashes sometimes... So I dropped.

>
> 2. Database/Table link

What do you mean ? Look in the gambas database manager sources, you can use 
the TableView widget to view database contents.

>
> 3. Reporting Tool
>

It is planned.

>
>
> Packaging was something I conveyed Beniot sometime
> back and Im the in the process of building/selling
> Linux Boxes here, I live in Chennai(Madras)/Tamil
> Nadu/India. Im planning to package some of the famous
> Freeware/Sourceforge projects with the system.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> R S Kannan

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Wed Jun 25 14:35:19 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:35:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Diff. with VB
In-Reply-To: <200306242333.48475.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <20030625025029.49348.qmail@...170...> <200306242333.48475.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306251435.19904.gambas@...2...>

Le Mercredi 25 Juin 2003 05:33, Rob a ?crit :
> On Tuesday 24 June 2003 22:50, Kannan Ramasamy wrote:
> > At this outset, I would like to see these controls:
> > 1. Datepicker
> > 2. Database/Table link
> > 3. Reporting Tool
>
> I think that all of these things would be better implemented in Gambas
> (using whatever mechanism Benoit comes up with - see his brief note on the
> InputBox thread) rather than writing new components for them in C++ and Qt
> (which would then have to be reimplemented when Gambas gets a
> Gtk/Win32/Cocoa/whatever component.)

I agree.

>
> I've done a lot with the Printer object in VB for report generation because
> the included Crystal Reports (and indeed, the expensive retail one) sucks
> ass and crashes a lot, so I expect to be experimenting with the Gambas
> equivalent, and the other two items on your list would best be implemented
> as compound widgets, to use a Tcl term.

Having integrated Report manager into Gambas needs a lot of IDE rework first. 
This work is currently in progress.

>
> That said, I don't want to dissuade anyone (including you!) from tackling
> any of these ideas if you would rather not wait for someone else to do so.
>
> > Packaging was something I conveyed Beniot sometime
> > back and Im the in the process of building/selling
> > Linux Boxes here, I live in Chennai(Madras)/Tamil
> > Nadu/India. Im planning to package some of the famous
> > Freeware/Sourceforge projects with the system.
>
> You mean packaging of Gambas itself, or packaging of Gambas projects?  If
> you meant the former, I think campaigning for distributions to include
> Gambas (and failing that, getting people like you and me to build them for
> our favorite distribution) makes more sense than trying to convince Benoit
> to install every distribution on the face of the earth to tediously build
> packages ;)

Of course ! I think Gambas is next to work on all distributions. The problem 
is that the major distributions currently change a lot of things between each 
version: glibc, qt, etc. I hope all that will stabilize in the near future.

>
> If you meant the latter, I could certainly see Gambas setup tools for RPM-
> and apt-based distributions that start with the tarball created by the
> "make package" menu option and end up with your package format of choice. 
> I'll probably write one for RPM when I have time (read: down my priority
> list a ways, behind getting the wiki docs all straightened out and making
> my first attempt at a VB->Gambas form translator.)

Such a tool will be great for VB newbies.

>
> Rob
>

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From Gambasfr at ...11...  Wed Jun 25 21:26:20 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:26:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
In-Reply-To: <200306251427.44428.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306232042.09406.secmon@...169...> <008401c33b11$52c438e0$000a0a0a@...171...> <200306251427.44428.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306252126.20643.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Mercredi 25 Juin 2003 14:27, Benoit Minisini a ?crit :
> Le Mercredi 25 Juin 2003 13:59, Nigel Gerrard a ?crit :
> > Back in January I submitted the following component for inclusion in
> > gambas. At the time Benoit thought the InputBox of VB a bad idea, so
> > it didn't get included.  Perhaps we'll try again :-)
> >
> > Nigel
>
> I think it is better to do such a thing in Gambas, and to let a Gambas
> project use another Gambas project as a library.

Yep i agree !
And with this, idea i see lot of different application, and scripting tool !

Fabien



From gambas at ...2...  Thu Jun 26 00:06:30 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:06:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.60
Message-ID: <200306260006.30636.gambas@...2...>

Hi people,

gambas 0.60 is out. You can download it on the web site.

Here are the changes :

- The IDE component explorer has been replaced by an help browser based on
  the Gambas Wiki made by Rob.

- The internal component management has been rewritten. Every component
  information is stored into a text file named 'components' located
  by default in /opt/gambas/lib. This text file contains component
  names that can be translated.

- Logically, SuSE 8.2 users are not obliged to create a symbolic link
  on libqt-mt.so.3 anymore. They just have to pass "--with-qt-libraries=
  /usr/lib" to the ./configure script. Tell me if it works.

- Files can be watched like Processes. Be careful, this implies a p-code
  incompatibility : older projects that use the OPEN keyword must be
  recompiled.

Here is an example of how to watch a serial port :

'-------------------------
' Gambas module

PRIVATE hPort AS File

PUBLIC SUB Main()

  OPEN "/dev/ttyS0" FOR READ WRITE WATCH AS #hPort

END

PUBLIC SUB File_Read()

  DIM iByte AS Byte

  PRINT "I can read at least one byte on the port"
  READ #hPort, iByte
  PRINT iByte

END

PUBLIC SUB File_Write()

  PRINT "I can write on the port"
  WRITE #hPort, 42

END

'-------------------------

Enjoy it.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From jsrlepage at ...67...  Thu Jun 26 03:43:07 2003
From: jsrlepage at ...67... (Renaud Lepage)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:43:07 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.60
Message-ID: <Sea2-F3PMYOL0mb2Ovm00027a10@...67...>

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From gambas at ...2...  Thu Jun 26 09:55:35 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:55:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.60
In-Reply-To: <Sea2-F3PMYOL0mb2Ovm00027a10@...67...>
References: <Sea2-F3PMYOL0mb2Ovm00027a10@...67...>
Message-ID: <200306260955.35992.gambas@...2...>

Le Jeudi 26 Juin 2003 03:43, Renaud Lepage a ?crit :
> <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>changelog : petit d?tail...</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>A watched file <STRONG>call </STRONG>the "File_Read" and "File_Write"
> event handlers as needed.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Le <STRONG>call </STRONG>devrait plut?t ?tre
> <STRONG>calls</STRONG>&nbsp;si la signification de la phrase est "Un
> fichier (watched) appelle "File_Read" [...].</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>; - )</DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN Messenger : discutez en direct
> avec vos amis !  <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAFRCA/2728??PS=">Cliquez-ici
> </a> </html>
>

Fixed :-) I suggest you not yo use HTML mails to post on the mailing-list.

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From dimitribellini at ...69...  Thu Jun 26 13:37:58 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:37:58 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.60
In-Reply-To: <200306260006.30636.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306260006.30636.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306261137.59066.dimitribellini@...69...>

Thanks Benoit
	for your great and fast work. 
Dimitri

On Wednesday 25 June 2003 22:06, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Hi people,
>
> gambas 0.60 is out. You can download it on the web site.
>
> Here are the changes :
>
> - The IDE component explorer has been replaced by an help browser based on
>   the Gambas Wiki made by Rob.
>
> - The internal component management has been rewritten. Every component
>   information is stored into a text file named 'components' located
>   by default in /opt/gambas/lib. This text file contains component
>   names that can be translated.
>
> - Logically, SuSE 8.2 users are not obliged to create a symbolic link
>   on libqt-mt.so.3 anymore. They just have to pass "--with-qt-libraries=
>   /usr/lib" to the ./configure script. Tell me if it works.
>
> - Files can be watched like Processes. Be careful, this implies a p-code
>   incompatibility : older projects that use the OPEN keyword must be
>   recompiled.
>
> Here is an example of how to watch a serial port :
>
> '-------------------------
> ' Gambas module
>
> PRIVATE hPort AS File
>
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
>
>   OPEN "/dev/ttyS0" FOR READ WRITE WATCH AS #hPort
>
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB File_Read()
>
>   DIM iByte AS Byte
>
>   PRINT "I can read at least one byte on the port"
>   READ #hPort, iByte
>   PRINT iByte
>
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB File_Write()
>
>   PRINT "I can write on the port"
>   WRITE #hPort, 42
>
> END
>
> '-------------------------
>
> Enjoy it.




From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116...  Thu Jun 26 15:27:00 2003
From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:27:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.60
In-Reply-To: <200306260006.30636.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306260006.30636.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306261527.02013.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...>

On Thursday 26 June 2003 12:06 am, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> - Logically, SuSE 8.2 users are not obliged to create a symbolic link
>   on libqt-mt.so.3 anymore. They just have to pass "--with-qt-libraries=
>   /usr/lib" to the ./configure script. Tell me if it works.

Nope, I still have to have symlink in order to get it installed. Everything 
else is Ok, it seems that properties crash is fixed, the properties window 
now requires me to click on an object in order to change values.

-- 
Radoslav Dejanovi?
Operacijski sustavi d.o.o.     http://www.opsus.hr



From dimitribellini at ...69...  Thu Jun 26 18:11:54 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 16:11:54 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.60
In-Reply-To: <200306260006.30636.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306260006.30636.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306261611.54412.dimitribellini@...69...>

HI Benoit
	i have try this new function with new project i only cut and paste your post 
but gambas return a syntax error on "OPEN "/dev/ttyS0" FOR READ WRITE WATCH 
AS #hPort" i cant understand the problem.
Thanks for help
Dimitri

> - Files can be watched like Processes. Be careful, this implies a p-code
>   incompatibility : older projects that use the OPEN keyword must be
>   recompiled.
>
> Here is an example of how to watch a serial port :
>
> '-------------------------
> ' Gambas module
>
> PRIVATE hPort AS File
>
> PUBLIC SUB Main()
>
>   OPEN "/dev/ttyS0" FOR READ WRITE WATCH AS #hPort
>
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB File_Read()
>
>   DIM iByte AS Byte
>
>   PRINT "I can read at least one byte on the port"
>   READ #hPort, iByte
>   PRINT iByte
>
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB File_Write()
>
>   PRINT "I can write on the port"
>   WRITE #hPort, 42
>
> END
>
> '-------------------------
>
> Enjoy it.




From nigel at ...38...  Wed Jun 25 13:53:07 2003
From: nigel at ...38... (Nigel GERRARD)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:53:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] input box
Message-ID: <000201c33bf9$34a48ac0$020a0a0a@...55...>

Back in January I submitted a version of the InputBox, but.......

:-)

Nigel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beno?t Minisini" <gambas at ...1...>
To: <gambas-devel at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-devel] Simple InputBox


Le Vendredi 24 Janvier 2003 19:59, Nigel GERRARD a ?crit :
> Beno?t
>
> Attached is a simple control for inputting a single value.  It is based
> loosely on the Message control and I have tested it in the gb.qt library.
> Is it useful?
>
> Nigel

I have never found the InputBox of VB a good idea. Hey ! It is for lazy guys
that want to make bad user interfaces...

But if you insist, I will add it to the gb.qt.ext component.

A good idea would be to add the InputBox to the Dialog class with the same
interface.

Dialog.InputBox() AS BOOLEAN
Dialog.Value
Dialog.Title
...etc.

--
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From karl.reinl at ...9...  Fri Jun 27 00:32:44 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:32:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] the 0.60
Message-ID: <3EFB748C.1030507@...9...>

Salut,

the attached error happend on my SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 
2.95.x

Any help ?

On the new Test-gentoo it works fine.
Very nice the new Help-Browser,
 but if you are offline (still using a modem)it hangs when you are going 
on a URL outside.

Amicalement
Charlie

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From conselvan2 at ...172...  Fri Jun 27 04:52:52 2003
From: conselvan2 at ...172... (Ander Conselvan de Oliveira)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:52:52 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Linker problem?
Message-ID: <001c01c33c57$356ec8e0$0100a8c0@...173...>

I tried to compile gambas-0.60. It compiled but make install failed with the following error:

ERROR: #27: Cannot load library '/opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.la': /opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.so.0: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject5eventEP6QEvent

What could it be?


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From gambas at ...2...  Thu Jun 26 23:01:17 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:01:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.60
In-Reply-To: <200306261611.54412.dimitribellini@...69...>
References: <200306260006.30636.gambas@...2...> <200306261611.54412.dimitribellini@...69...>
Message-ID: <200306262301.17660.gambas@...2...>

Le Jeudi 26 Juin 2003 18:11, Dimitri Bellini a ?crit :
> HI Benoit
> 	i have try this new function with new project i only cut and paste your
> post but gambas return a syntax error on "OPEN "/dev/ttyS0" FOR READ WRITE
> WATCH AS #hPort" i cant understand the problem.
> Thanks for help
> Dimitri
>

Hmmm... Maybe it is a compiler bug. I really tested with only READ WATCH, not 
READ WRITE WATCH. Sorry for this inconvenience !

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Fri Jun 27 10:14:12 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:14:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] the 0.60
In-Reply-To: <3EFB748C.1030507@...9...>
References: <3EFB748C.1030507@...9...>
Message-ID: <200306271014.12401.gambas@...2...>

Le Vendredi 27 Juin 2003 00:32, Charlie a ?crit :
> Salut,
>
> the attached error happend on my SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc
> 2.95.x
>
> Any help ?
>

It is a qt-3.0 incompatibility yet. Remove the line #include <qeventloop.h>, 
and everything should work fine.

> On the new Test-gentoo it works fine.
> Very nice the new Help-Browser,
>  but if you are offline (still using a modem)it hangs when you are going
> on a URL outside.

???? The Qt browser widget don't access internet ! It just displays a white 
page if the url is bad.

>
> Amicalement
> Charlie

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Fri Jun 27 10:15:05 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:15:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Linker problem?
In-Reply-To: <001c01c33c57$356ec8e0$0100a8c0@...173...>
References: <001c01c33c57$356ec8e0$0100a8c0@...173...>
Message-ID: <200306271015.05144.gambas@...2...>

Le Vendredi 27 Juin 2003 04:52, Ander Conselvan de Oliveira a ?crit :
> I tried to compile gambas-0.60. It compiled but make install failed with
> the following error:
>
> ERROR: #27: Cannot load library '/opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.la':
> /opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.so.0: undefined symbol:
> _ZN7QObject5eventEP6QEvent
>
> What could it be?

You must give your distribution and the version of your distribution if you 
want an answer.

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From conselvan2 at ...172...  Fri Jun 27 13:01:38 2003
From: conselvan2 at ...172... (Ander Conselvan de Oliveira)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:01:38 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Linker problem?
References: <001c01c33c57$356ec8e0$0100a8c0@...173...> <200306271015.05144.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <000d01c33c9b$7d6a45e0$39cb9ac8@...173...>

Sorry,
I'm using Mandrake 8.1 with gcc 3.2.2, qt 3.1.2

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benoit Minisini" <gambas at ...2...>
To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Linker problem?


Le Vendredi 27 Juin 2003 04:52, Ander Conselvan de Oliveira a ?crit :
> I tried to compile gambas-0.60. It compiled but make install failed with
> the following error:
>
> ERROR: #27: Cannot load library '/opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.la':
> /opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.so.0: undefined symbol:
> _ZN7QObject5eventEP6QEvent
>
> What could it be?

You must give your distribution and the version of your distribution if you
want an answer.

--
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...






From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun 27 15:30:07 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:30:07 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] the 0.60
In-Reply-To: <200306271014.12401.gambas@...2...>
References: <3EFB748C.1030507@...9...> <200306271014.12401.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306270930.07908.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Friday 27 June 2003 04:14, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > Very nice the new Help-Browser,
> >  but if you are offline (still using a modem)it hangs when you are going
> > on a URL outside.
> ???? The Qt browser widget don't access internet ! It just displays a white
> page if the url is bad.

I bet he got to the "How do I..." page, which I haven't yet pulled down off of 
Jochen's site.

Rob




From girardhenri at ...67...  Fri Jun 27 18:22:04 2003
From: girardhenri at ...67... (HG)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:22:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Linker problem?
References: <001c01c33c57$356ec8e0$0100a8c0@...173...> <200306271015.05144.gambas@...2...> <000d01c33c9b$7d6a45e0$39cb9ac8@...173...>
Message-ID: <BAY8-DAV42dhK8CzyhB0003579a@...67...>

I got the same problem with redhat 9...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ander Conselvan de Oliveira" <conselvan2 at ...172...>
To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Linker problem?


> Sorry,
> I'm using Mandrake 8.1 with gcc 3.2.2, qt 3.1.2
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Benoit Minisini" <gambas at ...2...>
> To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Linker problem?
>
>
> Le Vendredi 27 Juin 2003 04:52, Ander Conselvan de Oliveira a ?crit :
> > I tried to compile gambas-0.60. It compiled but make install failed with
> > the following error:
> >
> > ERROR: #27: Cannot load library '/opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.la':
> > /opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.so.0: undefined symbol:
> > _ZN7QObject5eventEP6QEvent
> >
> > What could it be?
>
> You must give your distribution and the version of your distribution if
you
> want an answer.
>
> --
> Benoit Minisini
> mailto:gambas at ...1...
>
>
>
>
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From dimitribellini at ...69...  Fri Jun 27 20:35:23 2003
From: dimitribellini at ...69... (Dimitri Bellini)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:35:23 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.60
In-Reply-To: <200306262301.17660.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306260006.30636.gambas@...2...> <200306261611.54412.dimitribellini@...69...> <200306262301.17660.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306271835.23927.dimitribellini@...69...>

On Thursday 26 June 2003 21:01, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Le Jeudi 26 Juin 2003 18:11, Dimitri Bellini a ?crit :
> > HI Benoit
> > 	i have try this new function with new project i only cut and paste your
> > post but gambas return a syntax error on "OPEN "/dev/ttyS0" FOR READ
> > WRITE WATCH AS #hPort" i cant understand the problem.
> > Thanks for help
> > Dimitri
>
> Hmmm... Maybe it is a compiler bug. I really tested with only READ WATCH,
> not READ WRITE WATCH. Sorry for this inconvenience !

Ehehee...Dont worry thanks... 
Dimitri




From karl.reinl at ...9...  Fri Jun 27 20:31:55 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:31:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] the 0.60
References: <3EFB748C.1030507@...9...> <200306271014.12401.gambas@...2...> <200306270930.07908.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <3EFC8D9B.6090302@...9...>

Rob schrieb:

>On Friday 27 June 2003 04:14, Benoit Minisini wrote:
>  
>
>>>Very nice the new Help-Browser,
>>> but if you are offline (still using a modem)it hangs when you are going
>>>on a URL outside.
>>>      
>>>
>>???? The Qt browser widget don't access internet ! It just displays a white
>>page if the url is bad.
>>    
>>
>
>I bet he got to the "How do I..." page, which I haven't yet pulled down off of 
>Jochen's site.
>
>Rob
>  
>
Bingo, I dit

Charlie




From karl.reinl at ...9...  Fri Jun 27 20:58:00 2003
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:58:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] the 0.60
References: <3EFB748C.1030507@...9...> <200306271014.12401.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <3EFC93B8.3000708@...9...>

Benoit Minisini schrieb:

>Le Vendredi 27 Juin 2003 00:32, Charlie a ?crit :
>  
>
>>Salut,
>>
>>the attached error happend on my SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc
>>2.95.x
>>
>>Any help ?
>>
>>    
>>
>
>It is a qt-3.0 incompatibility yet. Remove the line #include <qeventloop.h>, 
>and everything should work fine.
>  
>
I dit it in main.cpp and CWindow.cpp
and I had to comment  out in CWindow.cpp line 1380 1381 189 and 1390 ,a 
little bit rough , but could work If you don't use embedded.

but I'v got a new in CPicture.cpp (see Attachment)

So I think gambas-0.58 was the last version who run with a

qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x

And now I have to setup my testsystem to a productive State.

>  
>
>>On the new Test-gentoo it works fine.
>>Very nice the new Help-Browser,
>> but if you are offline (still using a modem)it hangs when you are going
>>on a URL outside.
>>    
>>
>
>???? The Qt browser widget don't access internet ! It just displays a white 
>page if the url is bad.
>
>  
>
>>Amicalement
>>Charlie
>>    
>>
>
>Regards,
>
>  
>


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From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Fri Jun 27 22:57:12 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:57:12 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.60 Mandrake RPM's etc.
Message-ID: <200306271657.12729.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

I finally posted at http://www.kudla.org some RPM's for Gambas 0.60.  This 
time rather than being for Mandrake 9.0 they are for 9.1 instead, since I 
haven't had time to patch Gambas 0.60 for Qt 3.0.

One thing I had to do in my spec file (which I'd probably include in my patch 
for Mandrake 9.0 but for one line it seemed silly to make a patch) was fix 
the FExplorer class of the IDE to look in the directory RPM creates for doc 
files (/usr/share/doc/gambas-0.60 in this case) rather than /usr for the help 
HTML files.  I dunno if this is the optimal way to do things; maybe the help 
directory ought to be specified in some make file or configuration file or 
the configure script or something.  But it works.

I also noticed there were some issues I hadn't seen before with the wiki 
extract.  In particular, it seems the entire gb.gb class isn't accessible 
from the explorer thingy, and somehow a few of the array-related components 
(String[], etc) had symbol documentation created with right square brackets 
in it, screwing up wiki links and therefore the documentation too.  I'll try 
to fix that as I find it.  I'll also be working on copying theeasygambasdoku 
into wiki format so all the "How do i...." pages can be included in the help 
browser in the next version (the VB user I gave Gambas to thought the docs 
could use a lot more examples and mentioned Jochen's site as a good source of 
examples.)  And our conversations on the wiki pages (on the How do I page and 
the new Wishlist created by Nelson, but probably others) should probably go 
between nopublish.../nopublish tags, which I've already started doing with 
other stuff like "download the static version here."  Of course, with 
>90F/30C temperatures and no A/C in my office, this is all heat permitting ;)

The way the search thingy returns HTML filenames (especially with the 
byzantine way I named the Wiki pages) is kinda unfriendly.  I will probably 
submit a patch to make it look a little nicer (maybe the same way I did with 
the "referenced by" links in the component pages ofthe wiki.)  Have to say 
that I've abandoned my plans for a cached full text search though - the brute 
force search out there now is amazingly fast.  Great work, Benoit and Fabien.  
Instead, I will probably make a cached "searchable list of pages by title" 
like the second tab in the old VB help browser and submit that.

Rob




From kannan62k at ...43...  Sat Jun 28 11:40:01 2003
From: kannan62k at ...43... (Kannan Ramasamy)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 02:40:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: the 0.60
Message-ID: <20030628094001.43672.qmail@...175...>

Hello there,


Thanx for ur pointing out the changes to made in v0.58
source with respect to CWindow.cpp, main.cpp and
CPicture.cpp(earlier by Benoit himself).


These patches hav got me beyond and into 0.60 and it
installs great now except that the properties window
doesnt show up anything about controls.  $hConn.exec
now terminates the application without any error even
if the next line does a 'Catch'.

The same for Tableview in 0.58, the app. doesnt even
load the form where with 0.57 I could see the contents
except that a mouse click closes the entire
application.


Mysql.devel is working fine for me now in my RH8.0
with qt3-gcc3.2 installation and i could do a hConn
effortlessly.


These problems as above should be minimal compared to
the phenomenal work that has been completed so far and
which is so very good as well.


Regards to all,


R S Kannan
kannan62k at ...43...

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From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun 28 11:53:49 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:53:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using projects as libraries
Message-ID: <200306281153.50022.gambas@...2...>

Hello everybody,

I have just added the possibility of using projects as libraries on my own 
box, and I wanted to have your opinion.

How does it work ?

I have added a new keyword, USE, to tell the interpreter to take classes into 
another Gambas archive.

For example, let's suppose you have two gambas projects in the same directory.

-+--- MyProjects
   |
   +---Test
   |
   +---MyClasses

I want to use the classes of the MyClasses project in the Test project. To do 
that, I just to add the following add in the Main() function of Test:

STATIC PUBLIC SUB Main()

  USE "MyClasses"
  ...

END

Then, the Gambas intepreter will search a gambas archive with the name passed 
to USE in the following directories:

1) In the same directory than where Test is stored.

2) If a directory with the good name is found in the same directory, then this 
directory is search for a gambas archive (it is supposed to be a gambas 
project).

3) In the component directory (/opt/gambas/lib by default). This way, we can 
add global classes (such as an InputBox :-)) to every gambas project.

What do you think of that ?

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun 28 12:08:42 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:08:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using projects as libraries
In-Reply-To: <200306281153.50022.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306281153.50022.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306281208.42419.gambas@...2...>

Le Samedi 28 Juin 2003 11:53, Benoit Minisini a ?crit :

> do that, I just to add the following add in the Main() function of Test:

should be replaced with :

... I just have to add the following in the Main() function of Test:

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From nicola.bisetto at ...69...  Sat Jun 28 17:53:34 2003
From: nicola.bisetto at ...69... (Nicola Bisetto)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:53:34 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] closing a form
Message-ID: <200306281553.34708.nicola.bisetto@...69...>

I started use Gambas yesterday and in a few hours 
I was able to convert some little VB projects under linux. 

Someone can teach me:
1) how can I close a form that hasn't the focus ?
2) how can I change the value of a control placed in a form that hasn't the 
focus?

Thank you for your help

Nicola B. 



From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun 28 18:47:40 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:47:40 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using projects as libraries
In-Reply-To: <200306281153.50022.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306281153.50022.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306281247.40185.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 28 June 2003 05:53, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> I have added a new keyword, USE, to tell the interpreter to take classes
> into another Gambas archive.

Gambas archive meaning a compiled Gambas executable, some new compiled Gambas 
library object, or just a directory full of Gambas source files?  I'd be okay 
with that in any of those cases, btw.

> 3) In the component directory (/opt/gambas/lib by default). This way, we
> can add global classes (such as an InputBox :-)) to every gambas project.

This part sounds especially good, because then "libraries" written in Gambas 
would have nearly the same ease of use as those written in C/C++.

But I'm assuming that if you made a form in such a project that you wished to 
use as a control in other projects, it still wouldn't appear in the Gambas 
IDE's toolbox - you'd have to instantiate it and place the control 
programmatically at runtime.  Is that accurate?

Rob





From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun 28 19:23:26 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 13:23:26 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] closing a form
In-Reply-To: <200306281553.34708.nicola.bisetto@...69...>
References: <200306281553.34708.nicola.bisetto@...69...>
Message-ID: <200306281323.26254.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 28 June 2003 11:53, Nicola Bisetto wrote:
> 1) how can I close a form that hasn't the focus ?

Supposing that you are trying to close it from the class where you opened it, 
and supposing you named it "ThatOtherForm" and made it public, you just go

   ThatOtherForm.Delete

This assumes that you did

   Public ThatOtherForm As Form

at the top of the class, and not

   Dim ThatOtherForm As Form

in the procedure where you opened it.

If you're trying to close it from a different class, instead of 
ThatOtherForm.Delete it would be

   MyFirstClass.ThatOtherForm.Delete

where MyFirstClass is the name of the class where you opened the form.

> 2) how can I change the value of a control placed in a form that hasn't the
> focus?

You need to check the "Form controls are public" checkbox in the Project 
Properties dialog.  Again you need to make sure you have a reference to the 
form you're trying to access (see above), and you would go (for example)

ThatOtherForm.MyTextbox.Clear
ThatOtherForm.MyTextbox.Insert("Whatever you wanted to say")

(Maybe it'd be better if there were a SetText method for textboxes that did 
both of those lines, since it's much more common to want to erase what was 
already there than to insert text....)

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sat Jun 28 21:46:16 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:46:16 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Nelson's Gambas wish list
Message-ID: <200306281546.16096.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

Nelson Ferraz has set up a wish list for Gambas language features at

http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/WishList

Some of his suggestions are better suited to Perl (which is where he got them 
from) and some are already present in Gambas, but a couple might be nice to 
have.

One of the things Nelson is asking for is post-conditional notation, which I 
think would be overly confusing for BASIC programmers but I can see the value 
in being able to do the following in one line:

  PRINT i FOR i = 1 TO 10

Instead, maybe Gambas should have a syntax element like other BASIC languages 
have always had, the colon to separate statements on a line:

  FOR i = 1 TO 10 : PRINT i : NEXT

He also suggested Perl-style string interpolation by prefixing variables with 
a dollar sign, e.g.

  MyStr = "world"
  PRINT "Hello $MyStr!"

I can see where that might be difficult to do, but it would sure save a lot of 
typing.

Thoughts?  Nelson, did you ever sign up for the list?

Rob




From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun 28 23:38:05 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:38:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using projects as libraries
In-Reply-To: <200306281247.40185.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306281153.50022.gambas@...2...> <200306281247.40185.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306282338.05514.gambas@...2...>

Le Samedi 28 Juin 2003 18:47, Rob a ?crit :
> On Saturday 28 June 2003 05:53, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > I have added a new keyword, USE, to tell the interpreter to take classes
> > into another Gambas archive.
>
> Gambas archive meaning a compiled Gambas executable, some new compiled
> Gambas library object, or just a directory full of Gambas source files? 
> I'd be okay with that in any of those cases, btw.

It is a "compiled Gambas executable". I name it "archive", because it IS an 
archive, like a *.tar file.

>
> > 3) In the component directory (/opt/gambas/lib by default). This way, we
> > can add global classes (such as an InputBox :-)) to every gambas project.
>
> This part sounds especially good, because then "libraries" written in
> Gambas would have nearly the same ease of use as those written in C/C++.
>
> But I'm assuming that if you made a form in such a project that you wished
> to use as a control in other projects, it still wouldn't appear in the
> Gambas IDE's toolbox - you'd have to instantiate it and place the control
> programmatically at runtime.  Is that accurate?

Yes. Gambas form cannot be a real control. At the moment :-)

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Sat Jun 28 23:39:46 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:39:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] closing a form
In-Reply-To: <200306281323.26254.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306281553.34708.nicola.bisetto@...69...> <200306281323.26254.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306282339.46671.gambas@...2...>

Le Samedi 28 Juin 2003 19:23, Rob a ?crit :
> On Saturday 28 June 2003 11:53, Nicola Bisetto wrote:
> > 1) how can I close a form that hasn't the focus ?
>
> Supposing that you are trying to close it from the class where you opened
> it, and supposing you named it "ThatOtherForm" and made it public, you just
> go
>
>    ThatOtherForm.Delete

You should better do ThatOtherForm.Close

>
> This assumes that you did
>
>    Public ThatOtherForm As Form
>
> at the top of the class, and not
>
>    Dim ThatOtherForm As Form
>
> in the procedure where you opened it.
>
> If you're trying to close it from a different class, instead of
> ThatOtherForm.Delete it would be
>
>    MyFirstClass.ThatOtherForm.Delete
>
> where MyFirstClass is the name of the class where you opened the form.
>
> > 2) how can I change the value of a control placed in a form that hasn't
> > the focus?
>
> You need to check the "Form controls are public" checkbox in the Project
> Properties dialog.  Again you need to make sure you have a reference to the
> form you're trying to access (see above), and you would go (for example)
>
> ThatOtherForm.MyTextbox.Clear
> ThatOtherForm.MyTextbox.Insert("Whatever you wanted to say")

Faster is :

  ThatOtherForm.MyTextbox.Text = "Whatever you wanted to say"

>
> (Maybe it'd be better if there were a SetText method for textboxes that did
> both of those lines, since it's much more common to want to erase what was
> already there than to insert text....)
>
> Rob
>

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Sun Jun 29 00:12:15 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 00:12:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Nelson's Gambas wish list
In-Reply-To: <200306281546.16096.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200306281546.16096.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <200306290012.15837.gambas@...2...>

Le Samedi 28 Juin 2003 21:46, Rob a ?crit :
> Nelson Ferraz has set up a wish list for Gambas language features at
>
> http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/WishList
>
> Some of his suggestions are better suited to Perl (which is where he got
> them from) and some are already present in Gambas, but a couple might be
> nice to have.
>
> One of the things Nelson is asking for is post-conditional notation, which
> I think would be overly confusing for BASIC programmers but I can see the
> value in being able to do the following in one line:
>
>   PRINT i FOR i = 1 TO 10

I don't like this because it is very confusing for BASIC programmers.

>
> Instead, maybe Gambas should have a syntax element like other BASIC
> languages have always had, the colon to separate statements on a line:
>
>   FOR i = 1 TO 10 : PRINT i : NEXT

This could be possible, but this syntax tends to produce code that is very 
hard to read. Like in Perl... ;-)

>
> He also suggested Perl-style string interpolation by prefixing variables
> with a dollar sign, e.g.
>
>   MyStr = "world"
>   PRINT "Hello $MyStr!"
>
> I can see where that might be difficult to do, but it would sure save a lot
> of typing.

I don't like that, because it breaks the BASIC syntax, it would need an 
interpreter overhead, and because it prevents these strings to be 
translatable.

You have the Subst() function, that is adapted to translation.

>
> Thoughts?  Nelson, did you ever sign up for the list?
>
> Rob
>

We should discuss that on the mailing-list rather than on the Wiki !

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From pako67 at ...176...  Sun Jun 29 00:32:31 2003
From: pako67 at ...176... (F.J. Cruz)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 00:32:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with class 'Connectio'
Message-ID: <200306290032.33086.pako67@...176...>

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Hi everybody,

I'm working with Gambas 0.60 (installed via rpm) in my Mandrake 9.0.

When I try to make a connection to a database, I get this error message:

"Cannot load Class 'Connection', unabe to load class file".

I've got this problem with de 0.58 version. However, I can run an example 
program that use this class without any problems.

This is part of my code:

 PRIVATE Conn AS NEW Connection

STATIC PUBLIC SUB Main()

  DIM hForm AS Form
  
  hForm = NEW Fprincipal
  hForm.Show

END (...)

Any idea?

Thanks.

- -- 

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From nicola.bisetto at ...69...  Sun Jun 29 11:15:59 2003
From: nicola.bisetto at ...69... (Nicola Bisetto)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:15:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ending an application
Message-ID: <200306290915.59710.nicola.bisetto@...69...>

Thank you for precedent suggest!
I have a new question:

1) there is in Gambas something like Apllication.quit for ending an 
application?

Tank you.

Nicola B.



From Gambasfr at ...11...  Sun Jun 29 12:56:06 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 12:56:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Nelson's Gambas wish list
In-Reply-To: <200306290012.15837.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306281546.16096.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306290012.15837.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306291255.29547.Gambasfr@...11...>

Le Dimanche 29 Juin 2003 00:12, Benoit Minisini a ?crit :
> Le Samedi 28 Juin 2003 21:46, Rob a ?crit :
> > Nelson Ferraz has set up a wish list for Gambas language features at
> >
> > http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/WishList
> >
> > Some of his suggestions are better suited to Perl (which is where he got
> > them from) and some are already present in Gambas, but a couple might be
> > nice to have.
> >
> > One of the things Nelson is asking for is post-conditional notation,
> > which I think would be overly confusing for BASIC programmers but I can
> > see the value in being able to do the following in one line:
> >
> >   PRINT i FOR i = 1 TO 10
>
> I don't like this because it is very confusing for BASIC programmers.
>
> > Instead, maybe Gambas should have a syntax element like other BASIC
> > languages have always had, the colon to separate statements on a line:
> >
> >   FOR i = 1 TO 10 : PRINT i : NEXT
>
> This could be possible, but this syntax tends to produce code that is very
> hard to read. Like in Perl... ;-)
>
> > He also suggested Perl-style string interpolation by prefixing variables
> > with a dollar sign, e.g.
> >
> >   MyStr = "world"
> >   PRINT "Hello $MyStr!"
> >
> > I can see where that might be difficult to do, but it would sure save a
> > lot of typing.
>
> I don't like that, because it breaks the BASIC syntax, it would need an
> interpreter overhead, and because it prevents these strings to be
> translatable.
>
> You have the Subst() function, that is adapted to translation.
>
> > Thoughts?  Nelson, did you ever sign up for the list?
> >
> > Rob
>
> We should discuss that on the mailing-list rather than on the Wiki !

i think the gambas wiki is not a discuss place but an help one. in the first 
time, i've think that new keywords appear in gambas synthaxe !

i'ts really confusing !

Fabien



From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sun Jun 29 01:18:09 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:18:09 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] closing a form
In-Reply-To: <200306282339.46671.gambas@...2...>
References: <200306281553.34708.nicola.bisetto@...69...> <200306281323.26254.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306282339.46671.gambas@...2...>
Message-ID: <200306281918.09654.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Saturday 28 June 2003 17:39, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > ThatOtherForm.MyTextbox.Clear
> > ThatOtherForm.MyTextbox.Insert("Whatever you wanted to say")
> Faster is :
>   ThatOtherForm.MyTextbox.Text = "Whatever you wanted to say"

Oh geez, I have no idea why it never occurred to me that the Text property 
wouldn't be writable.

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sun Jun 29 17:17:54 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:17:54 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Nelson's Gambas wish list
In-Reply-To: <200306291255.29547.Gambasfr@...11...>
References: <200306281546.16096.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200306290012.15837.gambas@...2...> <200306291255.29547.Gambasfr@...11...>
Message-ID: <200306291117.54443.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

On Sunday 29 June 2003 06:56, Fabien wrote:
> > We should discuss that on the mailing-list rather than on the Wiki !
> i think the gambas wiki is not a discuss place but an help one. in the

I agree.  I can forgive Nelson for starting a discussion on the wiki because 
if you go to his website, his entire company site is on a wiki.  But I did 
leave a note suggesting we continue the discussion on the list, which is why 
I sent that mail yesterday.

What I certainly do not want to see is the documentation for the next version 
of Gambas having people's discussions included in it.  I'll probably exclude 
the wish list from inclusion in the static version of the wiki by using the 
"nopublish" tag.

Rob




From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94...  Sun Jun 29 17:53:18 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:53:18 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] visual introduction to Gambas
Message-ID: <200306291153.18249.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>

I finished filling in the text for the "Visual Introduction to Gambas" page on 
the wiki, btw, but of course now the screenshots are all out of date (they're 
from 0.57.)  And they are imagemaps, which means they will be a huge pain in 
the ass to regenerate, so it may take me some time (maybe I'll just do the 
splash screen which mentions the version first, since it hasn't changed 
much.)  

If anyone would like to embellish the text I put in there, which is pretty 
much just one or two lines per element, please feel free.  Next up is 
wikifying the Easy Gambas Doku pages one by one.

Rob




From kschrock at ...149...  Sun Jun 29 22:45:29 2003
From: kschrock at ...149... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:45:29 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ending an application
References: <200306290915.59710.nicola.bisetto@...69...>
Message-ID: <3EFF4FE9.90106@...149...>

Do a close on the startup form
i.e. Form1.close if Form1 is the startup form
If you are doing this from inside that form all you need is
ME.close

Nicola Bisetto wrote:

>Thank you for precedent suggest!
>I have a new question:
>
>1) there is in Gambas something like Apllication.quit for ending an 
>application?
>
>Tank you.
>
>Nicola B.
>
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From nigel at ...38...  Mon Jun 30 19:10:41 2003
From: nigel at ...38... (Nigel Gerrard)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:10:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Copying an Instance of an Object
Message-ID: <000001c33f2a$a7259420$000a0a0a@...171...>

I maybe missing something here but I am trying make a copy of an Object for holding in a collection
whilst keeping the original object for manipulation.

e.g.

PUBLIC MyClass AS Something
PUBLIC MyCollection AS Collection
PUBLIC MyOther AS Something


PUBLIC SUB MAIN()
     DIM i AS Integer
     MyOther = NEW Something
     MyCollection = NEW Collection

     FOR i = 1 TO 7
         MyClass = NEW Something
         MyOther.ID = i
         MyOther.Stuff = "Stuff - " & CStr(i)
         MyClass = MyOther             ' This is where I would like to have MyOther Copied into MyClass...but I don't want to work through all
                                                   '  the other elements.  Something like = NEW Something(MyOther) would have been nice :-)
         MyCollection.Add(MyClass, CStr(MyClass.ID))
     NEXT

     FOR EACH MyClass IN MyCollection
         PRINT "ID                 = "; MyClass.ID
         PRINT "Stuff             = "; MyClass.Stuff 
     NEXT

END


.....And of course, the output comes out...
ID = 7
Stuff = Stuff-7
ID = 7
Stuff = Stuff-7
.etc.


Am I missing something obvious for creating a copy of the object? I'm trying to think back to C++ and operator overloading :-)


Nigel
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From pchapman at ...129...  Mon Jun 30 20:04:24 2003
From: pchapman at ...129... (Philip A. Chapman)
Date: 30 Jun 2003 13:04:24 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Copying an Instance of an Object
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References: <000001c33f2a$a7259420$000a0a0a@...171...>
Message-ID: <1056996264.9854.43.camel@...130...>

Nigel,

The code you have, the line:

MyClass = MyOther

simply assigns a reference to MyOther class to the MyClass variable. 
All you have done is copied the pointer reference, not the class that it
points too.  I do not think you can copy the object without instinating
a new object reference and manipulating it.  This is not what you
wanted, but perhaps you can make it a little cleaner and reusable by
putting it in the class itself:


In Something class module:

  PUBLIC FUNCTION Clone() AS Something
  
    DIM oNewSomething AS Something
  
    oNewSomething = NEW oNewSomething
    oNewSomething.ID = ME.ID
    oNewSomething.Stuff = ME.Stuff
  
    RETURN oNewSomething
  END

With the above function added to the Something class, you can do the
following in the Main method:

  MyCollection = NEW Collection
  
  FOR i = 1 TO 7
    MyOther = NEW Something  ' Not quite what you had before
    MyOther.ID = i
    MyOther.Stuff = "Stuff - " & CStr(i)
    MyClass = MyOther.Clone()
    MyCollection.Add(MyClass, CStr(MyClass.ID))
  NEXT

  FOR EACH MyClass IN MyCollection
    PRINT "ID                 = "; MyClass.ID
    PRINT "Stuff             = "; MyClass.Stuff
  NEXT


On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 12:10, Nigel Gerrard wrote:
> I maybe missing something here but I am trying make a copy of an
> Object for holding in a collection
> whilst keeping the original object for manipulation.
>  
> e.g.
>  
> PUBLIC MyClass AS Something
> PUBLIC MyCollection AS Collection
> PUBLIC MyOther AS Something
>  
>  
> PUBLIC SUB MAIN()
>      DIM i AS Integer
>      MyOther = NEW Something
>      MyCollection = NEW Collection
>  
>      FOR i = 1 TO 7
>          MyClass = NEW Something
>          MyOther.ID = i
>          MyOther.Stuff = "Stuff - " & CStr(i)
>          MyClass = MyOther             ' This is where I would like to
> have MyOther Copied into MyClass...but I don't want to work through
> all
>                                                    '  the other
> elements.  Something like = NEW Something(MyOther) would have been
> nice :-)
>          MyCollection.Add(MyClass, CStr(MyClass.ID))
>      NEXT
>  
>      FOR EACH MyClass IN MyCollection
>          PRINT "ID                 = "; MyClass.ID
>          PRINT "Stuff             = "; MyClass.Stuff 
>      NEXT
>  
> END
>  
>  
> .....And of course, the output comes out...
> ID = 7
> Stuff = Stuff-7
> ID = 7
> Stuff = Stuff-7
> .etc.
>  
>  
> Am I missing something obvious for creating a copy of the object? I'm
> trying to think back to C++ and operator overloading :-)
>  
>  
> Nigel
-- 
Philip A. Chapman

Application Development:
Java, Visual Basic (MCP), PostgreSQL, MySQL, MSSQL
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From kschrock at ...137...  Mon Jun 30 20:35:26 2003
From: kschrock at ...137... (Ken Schrock)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:35:26 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] excluding components
Message-ID: <3F0082EE.1050208@...137...>

I continue to have problems compiling Gambas on Debian
The problem is in the qt extensions part
How do I exclude just this piece?




From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun 30 23:55:57 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:55:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ending an application
In-Reply-To: <200306290915.59710.nicola.bisetto@...69...>
References: <200306290915.59710.nicola.bisetto@...69...>
Message-ID: <200306302355.57315.gambas@...2...>

Le Dimanche 29 Juin 2003 11:15, Nicola Bisetto a ?crit :
> Thank you for precedent suggest!
> I have a new question:
>
> 1) there is in Gambas something like Apllication.quit for ending an
> application?
>
> Tank you.
>
> Nicola B.
>
>

The QUIT keyword is not yet implemented, because I don't know how to do that 
cleanly at the moment.

To quit a program, you must close all visible windows, and close all watched 
files.

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...2...  Mon Jun 30 23:54:22 2003
From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:54:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with class 'Connectio'
In-Reply-To: <200306290032.33086.pako67@...176...>
References: <200306290032.33086.pako67@...176...>
Message-ID: <200306302354.22728.gambas@...2...>

Le Dimanche 29 Juin 2003 00:32, F.J. Cruz a ?crit :
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>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm working with Gambas 0.60 (installed via rpm) in my Mandrake 9.0.
>
> When I try to make a connection to a database, I get this error message:
>
> "Cannot load Class 'Connection', unabe to load class file".
>
> I've got this problem with de 0.58 version. However, I can run an example
> program that use this class without any problems.
>
> This is part of my code:
>
>  PRIVATE Conn AS NEW Connection
>
> STATIC PUBLIC SUB Main()
>
>   DIM hForm AS Form
>
>   hForm = NEW Fprincipal
>   hForm.Show
>
> END (...)
>
> Any idea?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - --
>
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Could you try with a gambas compiled from the source package ?

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...