From vschmid at ...210... Fri Aug 1 08:10:57 2003 From: vschmid at ...210... (Volker Schmid) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 08:10:57 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Crashes with pictures In-Reply-To: <200307311156.36532.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200307311156.36532.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: Here you can download the original png-file that crashes my Gambas-Installation. http://www.inspirant.de/Rennstrecke.png I place it into the folder of a complete new project with only one form. After a restart of Gambas you can see the picture unter the Data-Part of the Project-Tree. Now you can draw an Image-Control onto the form. If you now press the [...]-Button in the Picture-Property of the Image-Control Gambas closes without any message. Crash and exit. Gr?sse, Volker From gambas at ...2... Fri Aug 1 09:05:45 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:05:45 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Wish List and RFEs In-Reply-To: <1059679557.660.74.camel@...57...> References: <1059679557.660.74.camel@...57...> Message-ID: <200308010905.45057.gambas@...2...> Le Jeudi 31 Juillet 2003 21:25, Nelson Ferraz a ?crit : > Benoit and Rob, > > Since Sourceforge has a RFE ("Requests For Enhancements") list, I moved > the wish list from the wiki to there: > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=5417&atid=355417 > > BTW, I wonder if we shouldn't be using Sourceforge to manage bug > reports? > > []s > > Nelson > > I don't know how to do that ! I'm not feeling at ease with it, I prefer the mailing-list. But if you tell me what to do, I may do that. But why didn't you keep the wishlist on Rob wiki ? I may move from Sourceforge in the future... Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From nferraz at ...184... Fri Aug 1 09:37:09 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 01 Aug 2003 04:37:09 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Wish List and RFEs In-Reply-To: <200308010905.45057.gambas@...2...> References: <1059679557.660.74.camel@...57...> <200308010905.45057.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <1059723428.8257.23.camel@...57...> > I don't know how to do that ! I'm not feeling at ease with it, I prefer the > mailing-list. But if you tell me what to do, I may do that. Just log in as admin and create as many trackers as you wish: bugs, RFEs (Requests For Enhancements), etc. For instance, you could create a tracker for bugs in the compiler; another one for the IDE; etc. The good thing is that the requests stay visible for a long time, and can be priorized, categorized, assigned to someone, etc: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=355417&group_id=5417&func=browse > But why didn't you keep the wishlist on Rob wiki ? I may move from Sourceforge > in the future... Oh, I thought it wasn't the right place... Besides, Sourceforge is a nice place for collaborative software development! (And I think Gambas will become one of the most visible projects there, really soon!) []s Nelson From nferraz at ...184... Fri Aug 1 09:42:26 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 01 Aug 2003 04:42:26 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Wish List and RFEs In-Reply-To: <200308010905.45057.gambas@...2...> References: <1059679557.660.74.camel@...57...> <200308010905.45057.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <1059723746.8260.29.camel@...57...> I've just created the #gambas channel at irc.freenode.net Please, join the channel if you're online! []s Nelson From gambas at ...2... Fri Aug 1 11:34:58 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 11:34:58 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Crashes with pictures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200308011134.59019.gambas@...2...> Le Jeudi 31 Juillet 2003 17:32, Volker Schmid a ?crit : > Hi, > > I have a lot of strange problems using Gambas 0.62 (Madrake 9.1 with > Kudla-RPM's). > > If I place a picture (PNG-Format with 800x800 pixels) in the project-folder > and draw a simple Image-Control onto the form it is everything ok. But if I > want to set the Picture-Property (pressing the [...] button) the whole IDE > crashes. I think the picture is to great to handle for the file-requester? It works hear with the new picture selector. Maybe this a bug that was fixed by Fabien, I don't know. > > There are also many errors when I try to load this picture into a > picture-control. I found no way to do this. The builtin Icon-Editor can > open and display this picture with no problems (Right-Click and Edit). > > Then I try this: > > PicRennstrecke.Picture = Picture["Rennstrecke.png"] > > And after every error ("The program has returned the value: 1" followed by > "Unknown Symbol 'Picture' in class 'DrawingArea'"), I have to restart the > Gambas-IDE, because the program won't compile a second time to test > something. > > If I set a Code like this: > > DIM KoordX[200] AS Integer > KoordX[200]=10 > > The whole program says "The program has returned the value: 1" followed by > "Out of bounds". This is ok, but after this error I can't compile anymore. > I have to close and restart Gambas. > > How can I help to identify those problems? This is a bug in the interpreter debugger that makes the IDE mad. I found another bug too (try to enter into a 'USEd' project while debugging). I have just fixed them for the next version. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Fri Aug 1 11:44:50 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 11:44:50 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] About gambas 0.62 on SuSE 8.2 Message-ID: <200308011144.50645.gambas@...2...> Hi, I'm looking for a kind SuSE 8.2 user that downloaded gambas 0.62 and could grant me a temporary telnet or ssh root access on his machine. I want to find why it does not compile without passing options to ./configure, and why then it crashes claiming that it does not found the qt library. Thanks in advance, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambasfr at ...11... Fri Aug 1 15:36:59 2003 From: gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 15:36:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Gambas-user] Crashes with pictures Message-ID: <20285131.1059745019450.JavaMail.www@...214...> Message du 01/08/03 16:32 De : Fabien A : Benoit Minisini Copie ? : Objet : Re: Re: [Gambas-user] Crashes with pictures Message du 01/08/03 11:34 De : Benoit Minisini A : gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net Copie ? : Objet : Re: [Gambas-user] Crashes with pictures Le Jeudi 31 Juillet 2003 17:32, Volker Schmid a ?crit : > Hi, > > I have a lot of strange problems using Gambas 0.62 (Madrake 9.1 with > Kudla-RPM's). > > If I place a picture (PNG-Format with 800x800 pixels) in the project-folder > and draw a simple Image-Control onto the form it is everything ok. But if I > want to set the Picture-Property (pressing the [...] button) the whole IDE > crashes. I think the picture is to great to handle for the file-requester? >It works hear with the new picture selector. Maybe this a bug that was fixed >by Fabien, I don't know. Yes it's right. But i've re-writed all my selector so, some bug have been corrected, and other appear. I'm sorry but you must to wait some week for the new gambas package. I'm trying to do this for the 0.63 version. Fabien > > There are also many errors when I try to load this picture into a > picture-control. I found no way to do this. The builtin Icon-Editor can > open and display this picture with no problems (Right-Click and Edit). > > Then I try this: >PicRennstrecke.Picture = Picture["Rennstrecke.png"] >> >> And after every error ("The program has returned the value: 1" followed by >> "Unknown Symbol 'Picture' in class 'DrawingArea'"), I have to restart the >> Gambas-IDE, because the program won't compile a second time to test >> something. >> >> If I set a Code like this: >> >> DIM KoordX[200] AS Integer >> KoordX[200]=10 >> > The whole program says "The program has returned the value: 1" followed by >> "Out of bounds". This is ok, but after this error I can't compile anymore. >> I have to close and restart Gambas. >> >> How can I help to identify those problems? >This is a bug in the interpreter debugger that makes the IDE mad. I found >another bug too (try to enter into a 'USEd' project while debugging). I have >just fixed them for the next version. -- >Benoit Minisini >mailto:gambas at ...1... ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gambas at ...2... Fri Aug 1 23:28:29 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:28:29 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 Message-ID: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> Hi universe, gambas 0.63 is out. What's new ? - A new keyword, PROPERTY, to make...properties. - Bug fixes in the Printer class. - Five new translations. - A new file selector in the IDE, in beta version. - Other bug fixes. The problem with SuSE 8.2 as long as I can't access a SuSE 8.2 system. I add then a list of the pending tasks before the first Gambas 1.0 Release Candidate : - A new instruction to raise event. Just syntactic sugar to make events more visible in the source code. - Codepage management in the database manager and drivers. - Watching processes get data by 256 bytes packets. Must find a better behaviour. - Tells the compiler which symbols are classes so that the use of the CLASS keyword will be not necessary anymore. - Finish the component architecture documentation. - A QUIT instruction (needs a new interpreter hook) - A function to close all windows in the IDE - Make gambas work on as many systems as possible Tell me if you think I forgot something... Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From nferraz at ...184... Sat Aug 2 12:42:30 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 02 Aug 2003 07:42:30 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] LIKE function Message-ID: <1059820950.634.20.camel@...57...> I'm writing a small text-processing program with Gambas 0.63, and have come with the following: IF "zero" LIKE "*one*" THEN PRINT "true!" This expression returns true, i.e., "zero" is like "*one*". It seems that "zero" matches "***o" in the beginning of "one", which is not the intended behavior. (Perhaps it _is_ the intended behavior, but it's violating the DWIM principle! :)) Regexps, anyone? :) []s Nelson From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 2 15:27:10 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:27:10 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] LIKE function In-Reply-To: <1059820950.634.20.camel@...57...> References: <1059820950.634.20.camel@...57...> Message-ID: <200308021527.10865.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 2 Ao?t 2003 12:42, Nelson Ferraz a ?crit : > I'm writing a small text-processing program with Gambas 0.63, and have > come with the following: > > IF "zero" LIKE "*one*" THEN PRINT "true!" > > This expression returns true, i.e., "zero" is like "*one*". > > It seems that "zero" matches "***o" in the beginning of "one", which is > not the intended behavior. > > (Perhaps it _is_ the intended behavior, but it's violating the DWIM > principle! :)) > No, this is a bug ! :-) I think I have fixed it. 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(Wojtek) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:36:59 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] remove bookmark error Message-ID: <200308021736.59358.gambas@...162...> FSupSelector.class in 1239 line: Replace CASE 6 Message.Question(("Do you really want to remove this bookmark ?"), ("Remove"), ("Cancel")) IF value = 0 THEN CoolTabs.Remove(CoolTabs.Current.Tag) ENDIF with CASE 6 Value = Message.Question(("Do you really want to remove this bookmark ?"), ("Remove"), ("Cancel")) IF Value = 1 THEN CoolTabs.Remove(CoolTabs.Current.Tag) ENDIF Otherwise Cancel = Remove -- Wojciech Saltarski From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 2 19:12:28 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:12:28 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] remove bookmark error In-Reply-To: <200308021736.59358.gambas@...162...> References: <200308021736.59358.gambas@...162...> Message-ID: <200308021912.28423.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 2 Ao?t 2003 17:36, Wojtek a ?crit : > FSupSelector.class in 1239 line: > > Replace > > CASE 6 > Message.Question(("Do you really want to remove this bookmark ?"), > ("Remove"), ("Cancel")) > > IF value = 0 THEN > CoolTabs.Remove(CoolTabs.Current.Tag) > ENDIF > > with > > CASE 6 > Value = Message.Question(("Do you really want to remove this bookmark > ?"), ("Remove"), ("Cancel")) > > IF Value = 1 THEN > CoolTabs.Remove(CoolTabs.Current.Tag) > ENDIF > > Otherwise Cancel = Remove Fabien is a cognac producer. We can imagine a round of drinks for each bug ? :-))) P.S. Except for the Muslim of course. P.S #2 ...And for me as I don't drink alcoohol ! -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From nferraz at ...184... Sat Aug 2 23:07:30 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 02 Aug 2003 18:07:30 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] LIKE function In-Reply-To: <200308021527.10865.gambas@...2...> References: <1059820950.634.20.camel@...57...> <200308021527.10865.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <1059858450.644.61.camel@...57...> > No, this is a bug ! :-) I think I have fixed it. I join this mail a patch so > that you can continue your work without waiting for the next version. Okay, it works now! :) []s Nelson From antero.salminen at ...216... Sun Aug 3 18:04:52 2003 From: antero.salminen at ...216... (Antero Salminen) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:04:52 -0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Suse needs fix In-Reply-To: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> References: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308030904.52381.antero.salminen@...216...> Hi, Suse problems is in Suse, not in Gambas. And simple. The story a little later. :) Mission imposible in Gambas. Shared objects problem. -- Antero Salminen SuSE Linux 8.2/KDE/Kmail From Gambasfr at ...11... Sun Aug 3 12:25:38 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:25:38 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] remove bookmark error In-Reply-To: <200308021912.28423.gambas@...2...> References: <200308021736.59358.gambas@...162...> <200308021912.28423.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308031225.38657.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Samedi 2 Ao?t 2003 19:12, Benoit Minisini a ?crit : > Le Samedi 2 Ao?t 2003 17:36, Wojtek a ?crit : > > FSupSelector.class in 1239 line: > > > > Replace > > > > CASE 6 > > Message.Question(("Do you really want to remove this bookmark ?"), > > ("Remove"), ("Cancel")) > > > > IF value = 0 THEN > > CoolTabs.Remove(CoolTabs.Current.Tag) > > ENDIF > > > > with > > > > CASE 6 > > Value = Message.Question(("Do you really want to remove this > > bookmark ?"), ("Remove"), ("Cancel")) > > > > IF Value = 1 THEN > > CoolTabs.Remove(CoolTabs.Current.Tag) > > ENDIF > > > > Otherwise Cancel = Remove > > Fabien is a cognac producer. We can imagine a round of drinks for each bug > ? > > :-))) > > P.S. Except for the Muslim of course. > > P.S #2 ...And for me as I don't drink alcoohol ! => Why ? I think you don't know really good alcoohol or maybe are you sick ? hi Thank for this bug report ! Tel me if you have some other idea for this dialog. Fabien Bodard (Cognac Producer , hips) From msanchez at ...217... Sun Aug 3 14:03:21 2003 From: msanchez at ...217... (Marcos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E1nchez?= Provencio) Date: 03 Aug 2003 14:03:21 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Debian In-Reply-To: <3F1C6597.9040507@...137...> References: <3F1C6597.9040507@...137...> Message-ID: <1059912200.5358.5.camel@...218...> I used ver 0.61 for a while in a Debian Sid I have at work. 0.62 did not start, but that seems to be solved, I believe. I return to work on monday, so I'll try the new version. Cheers at 40?C El mar, 22-07-2003 a las 00:13, Ken Schrock escribi?: > Has anyone ever gotten Gambas to compile and run properly > On Debian or any variant thereof (Lycoris, Lindows, Xandros)? > -- Marcos S?nchez Provencio www.burke.es From mfirmansyah at ...219... Mon Aug 4 14:02:56 2003 From: mfirmansyah at ...219... (mfirmansyah at ...219...) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:02:56 +0700 (WIT) Subject: [Gambas-user] Plz help me Message-ID: <35196.202.159.50.56.1059998576.squirrel@...220...> I'm a very, very new user in Linux and I want to try to install gambas. I'm using RedHat 9 and I'm already check the opt to install mysql and postgreesql. But i'm still get some error while running ./configure, the message i receive : "cannot find PostgreeSQL library." Plz someone tell me what should I do so I can run ./configure without any parameters (ex. --disable-db-component) Where I can download the PostgreeSQL library (and all requirement to install gambas) and how to install it Thx before. From pchapman at ...129... Mon Aug 4 15:19:51 2003 From: pchapman at ...129... (Philip A. Chapman) Date: 04 Aug 2003 08:19:51 -0500 Subject: [Gambas-user] Plz help me In-Reply-To: <35196.202.159.50.56.1059998576.squirrel@...220...> References: <35196.202.159.50.56.1059998576.squirrel@...220...> Message-ID: <1060003190.16366.8.camel@...148...> You will need the postgresql-devel rpm. It is available on the RH 9 CDs, though I don't know which of the three. If you have any more issues let me know and I'll try to help. On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 07:02, mfirmansyah at ...219... wrote: > I'm a very, very new user in Linux and I want to try to install gambas. > > I'm using RedHat 9 and I'm already check the opt to install mysql and > postgreesql. > > But i'm still get some error while running ./configure, the message i > receive : > > "cannot find PostgreeSQL library." > > Plz someone tell me what should I do so I can run ./configure without any > parameters (ex. --disable-db-component) > > Where I can download the PostgreeSQL library (and all requirement to > install gambas) and how to install it > > Thx before. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Philip A. 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In-Reply-To: <1060020004.2969.0.camel@...222...> References: <1060020004.2969.0.camel@...222...> Message-ID: <200308042104.10052.gambas@...2...> Le Lundi 4 Ao?t 2003 20:00, vous avez ?crit : > I'm using SuSE Linux 8.2 and Gambas 0.63. > I have to execute a command as root, so I tried EXEC["sudo", "....."]. > When I try my command in the shell it runs perfectly but as far as I try > to EXEC sudo with Gambas it tells me: > sudo: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory > Though a libqt-mt.so.3 and a libqt-mt.so exist and are right in place. > Anyway I don't uderstand what executing a command in the shell should > have to do with the libqt. > It seems to me that EXEC does not accept the sudo command. > Or is there something I have missed ? > > Thanks in advance Hi, Thanks for your report. It is a bug due to the internal use of LD_PRELOAD by the interpreter. I will fix it in the next version... Hey ! Wait a minute ! Gambas works on SuSE 8.2 !!!! Why didn't you tell me that before ? :-p I have another user (Antero Salminen ) that cannot succeed in compiling nor running gambas (same message than you, but just when lauching the 'gbi' program). I wonder if you could help him better than I did. He doesn't know how to grant me a ssh or telnet access to his machine. If you could run gambas, maybe there is a configuration problem on its own machine, but I don't know. I have only a SuSE 8.1 at home, and it seems there are a lot of differences between SuSE 8.2 and SuSE 8.1. Gambas needs a SuSE expert, and I'm not ! :-/ Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 4 21:12:17 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 21:12:17 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] I need help about telnet/ssh access Message-ID: <200308042112.17887.gambas@...2...> Hi, Some gambas users have problems, and I need accessing their system to understand what happens... How can they grant me a telnet or ssh root access on their system (Mandrake, RedHAT, SuSE, ...) ? I must admit that I don't know how to do that, so I can't explain them ! I will search, but if somebody has the knowledge, I will save time... :-) Thanks for any help. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 4 22:00:26 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 22:00:26 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? Message-ID: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> Hi, Gambas community, I have a important news ! Suspense... I want to create a sort of Gambas fundation to collect gifts. == WHY ? == Some people, (two, or three) wanted to give me money. Many people help Gambas by providing code, translations, Wiki server, help, etc... Giving money (a little) could be a way for people without technical skills to help the project. Here the two proposals I received: One, a Croatian people, wants some functionnalities in Gambas, and want to give me money for that. A second, a Indian people, wants to sell Linux boxes with gambas, and wanted to give money to the people who develop Gambas. The two cases are different : the first is paying me for a (not really) specific functionnality, and the second is helping the community in general. Of course, as the creator and main developer of Gambas, helping me implies helping the project ! On the other hand, helping the community by giving me money implies a responsability : I cannot do what I want with money given for "every gambas developer". I'm not the sole developer ! == WHAT FOR ? == For example, I could use the gifts to do the following : - Buying VMWare. - Buying an ADSL access, so that I can download the last version of any distributions. (I have a 56K modem) - Buying SuSE 8.2, or other distributions I can't download. - Debugging Gambas on all these systems. - ... Note: The Croatian people would like a tool that install gambas automatically on a system, so that he could distribute gambas project easily. So the need to have VmWare and every Linux system possible. == HOW ? == I will publish my own bank account international coordinates : they are just two codes, the IBAN code and the SWIFT code. With these two codes, everybody in the world can transfer money on my bank account. I want this "fundation" to be transparent, so every gift will be public and published on the web site, with the name of the giver (unless he wants to be anonymous). And every money spent will be published to on the web site, with the date, the object, and the amount of the expense. There will be only one account (at the beginning), but the money of the fundation will be completetly separated. == AND ? == I want the opinion of everyone on this mailing-list : what you think about that, if you have other ideas, if you plan to give money, and so on... I hope you will find this idea useful ! :-) Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 4 22:12:37 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 22:12:37 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308042212.37434.gambas@...2...> Le Lundi 4 Ao?t 2003 22:00, Benoit Minisini a ?crit : > Hi, Gambas community, > > I have a important news ! > > Suspense... > > I want to create a sort of Gambas fundation to collect gifts. > > == WHY ? == > > Some people, (two, or three) wanted to give me money. > > Many people help Gambas by providing code, translations, Wiki server, help, > etc... Giving money (a little) could be a way for people without technical > skills to help the project. > > Here the two proposals I received: > > One, a Croatian people, wants some functionnalities in Gambas, and want to > give me money for that. > > A second, a Indian people, wants to sell Linux boxes with gambas, and > wanted to give money to the people who develop Gambas. > > The two cases are different : the first is paying me for a (not really) > specific functionnality, and the second is helping the community in > general. > > Of course, as the creator and main developer of Gambas, helping me implies > helping the project ! > > On the other hand, helping the community by giving me money implies a > responsability : I cannot do what I want with money given for "every gambas > developer". I'm not the sole developer ! > > == WHAT FOR ? == > > For example, I could use the gifts to do the following : > > - Buying VMWare. > - Buying an ADSL access, so that I can download the last version of any > distributions. (I have a 56K modem) > - Buying SuSE 8.2, or other distributions I can't download. > - Debugging Gambas on all these systems. > - ... > > Note: The Croatian people would like a tool that install gambas > automatically on a system, so that he could distribute gambas project > easily. So the need to have VmWare and every Linux system possible. > > == HOW ? == > > I will publish my own bank account international coordinates : they are > just two codes, the IBAN code and the SWIFT code. > > With these two codes, everybody in the world can transfer money on my bank > account. > > I want this "fundation" to be transparent, so every gift will be public and > published on the web site, with the name of the giver (unless he wants to > be anonymous). And every money spent will be published to on the web site, > with the date, the object, and the amount of the expense. > > There will be only one account (at the beginning), but the money of the > fundation will be completetly separated. > > == AND ? == > > I want the opinion of everyone on this mailing-list : what you think about > that, if you have other ideas, if you plan to give money, and so on... > > I hope you will find this idea useful ! :-) > > Regards, And sorry for the english mistakes ! -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Mon Aug 4 21:56:09 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:56:09 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] I need help about telnet/ssh access In-Reply-To: <200308042112.17887.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042112.17887.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308041556.09624.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Monday 04 August 2003 15:12, Benoit Minisini wrote: > How can they grant me a telnet or ssh root access on their system > (Mandrake, RedHAT, SuSE, ...) ? well, if they're okay with the command line, here it is for mandrake :) 1. get a root shell 2. urpmi openssh-server 3. useradd benoit 4. passwd benoit (and have them set your password to something useful) 5. service sshd start 6. ifconfig (and have them tell you what their IP address is ;) ) if they later want to remove ssh server, "urpme openssh-server" I expect the procedure wouldn't be too much longer under Debian, not sure about Redhat or Suse.... Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Mon Aug 4 22:06:44 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:06:44 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308041606.44303.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Monday 04 August 2003 16:00, Benoit Minisini wrote: > I want the opinion of everyone on this mailing-list : what you think about > that, if you have other ideas, if you plan to give money, and so on... I think this is a great idea, if you can do it without screwing up your taxes or breaking any weird accounting laws France may have. I'd definitely ask my accountant first or use something like Paypal or the Amazon Honor System, but if you've seen other people do it the way you mentioned, I guess it ought to be safe. Still, I sure hope to see Gambas on a retail shelf someday raising money for this fund ;) Rob From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 4 22:59:11 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 22:59:11 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308042259.11746.gambas@...2...> Le Lundi 4 Ao?t 2003 22:00, Benoit Minisini a ?crit : > == HOW ? == > > I will publish my own bank account international coordinates : they are > just two codes, the IBAN code and the SWIFT code. > > With these two codes, everybody in the world can transfer money on my bank > account. > Of course, our so lovely banks will take their commission, but I don't know how much it is. I think giving 5? will disappear in the bank hyperspace ! A system like PayPal may cost less, but a gift to PayPal is not directly transformed into money. If somebody knowing PayPal system better than me could tell me if it is more interesting than a direct account transfer... -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From nferraz at ...184... Mon Aug 4 23:31:24 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 04 Aug 2003 18:31:24 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <1060032685.550.88.camel@...185...> > I want to create a sort of Gambas fundation to collect gifts. Will it be a real non-profit organization or an informal one? > Many people help Gambas by providing code, translations, Wiki server, help, > etc... Giving money (a little) could be a way for people without technical > skills to help the project. Some companies could donate significant amounts if they could deduce that from their taxes; other companies could donate equipament and services. > For example, I could use the gifts to do the following : > > - Buying VMWare. > - Buying an ADSL access, so that I can download the last version of any > distributions. (I have a 56K modem) > - Buying SuSE 8.2, or other distributions I can't download. > - Debugging Gambas on all these systems. > - ... The most important: working full time on Gambas. :) > I will publish my own bank account international coordinates : they are just > two codes, the IBAN code and the SWIFT code. > > With these two codes, everybody in the world can transfer money on my bank > account. I think PayPal & Amazon are better solutions. []s Nelson From nferraz at ...184... Tue Aug 5 00:12:04 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 04 Aug 2003 19:12:04 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] I need help about telnet/ssh access In-Reply-To: <200308041556.09624.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308042112.17887.gambas@...2...> <200308041556.09624.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <1060035125.550.155.camel@...185...> > 1. get a root shell > 2. urpmi openssh-server > 3. useradd benoit > 4. passwd benoit (and have them set your password to something useful) > 5. service sshd start > 6. ifconfig (and have them tell you what their IP address is ;) ) > > if they later want to remove ssh server, "urpme openssh-server" > > I expect the procedure wouldn't be too much longer under Debian, not sure > about Redhat or Suse.... SSH is often installed by default on Debian. To enable/disable it, use: /etc/init.d/ssh start /etc/init.d/ssh stop []s Nelson From elentirmo at ...20... Tue Aug 5 09:37:39 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 09:37:39 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 In-Reply-To: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> References: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308050937.39860.elentirmo@...20...> Hi, after a long absence from the list I have recently tried out the new gambas 0.63 on my SuSE 8.2 and it worked without any problems from the start (compiled with ./configure --disable-db-component). Just wanted to tell you that. Gru? Marco Bauer SuSE 8.2/Kernel 2.4.20-4GB-athlon/KDE 3.1.1/Qt 3.1.1 From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 5 10:23:17 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:23:17 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <1060032685.550.88.camel@...185...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <1060032685.550.88.camel@...185...> Message-ID: <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> Le Lundi 4 Ao?t 2003 23:31, Nelson Ferraz a ?crit : > > I want to create a sort of Gambas fundation to collect gifts. > > Will it be a real non-profit organization or an informal one? It will be a non-profit organization. If I want to make profit, I make my own company without disturbing people. :-) It will be informal at the beginning, because creating a non-profit association in France takes three months, needs a president and a treasurer, needs a board of directors, and I don't know how non-French people can subscribe to the association. If the gifts become important, I think I will be obliged to create a formal structure, but at the moment, I think simpler is better. > > > Many people help Gambas by providing code, translations, Wiki server, > > help, etc... Giving money (a little) could be a way for people without > > technical skills to help the project. > > Some companies could donate significant amounts if they could deduce > that from their taxes; other companies could donate equipament and > services. In France, I need to create a non-profit association (1901 law) that must be officially recognized by the government. Elsewhere, the gifts cannot be deduced from the taxes. And to be recognized, such an association must exist from at least 5 years (I think), and must have an important budget and number of members ! > > > For example, I could use the gifts to do the following : > > > > - Buying VMWare. > > - Buying an ADSL access, so that I can download the last version of any > > distributions. (I have a 56K modem) > > - Buying SuSE 8.2, or other distributions I can't download. > > - Debugging Gambas on all these systems. > > - ... > > The most important: working full time on Gambas. :) This is another problem ! > > > I will publish my own bank account international coordinates : they are > > just two codes, the IBAN code and the SWIFT code. > > > > With these two codes, everybody in the world can transfer money on my > > bank account. > > I think PayPal & Amazon are better solutions. I know PayPal. But what is Amazon ? -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From nferraz at ...184... Tue Aug 5 16:58:02 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 05 Aug 2003 11:58:02 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <1060032685.550.88.camel@...185...> <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <1060095482.674.99.camel@...57...> > > > For example, I could use the gifts to do the following : > > > > > > - Buying VMWare. > > > - Buying an ADSL access, so that I can download the last version of any > > > distributions. (I have a 56K modem) > > > - Buying SuSE 8.2, or other distributions I can't download. > > > - Debugging Gambas on all these systems. > > > - ... > > > > The most important: working full time on Gambas. :) > > This is another problem ! Perhaps we should start conversations with the Free Software Foundation, with distributions like Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSE, and companies that support Linux (IBM, HP, Dell, Oracle, etc.) > > > I will publish my own bank account international coordinates : they are > > > just two codes, the IBAN code and the SWIFT code. > > > > > > With these two codes, everybody in the world can transfer money on my > > > bank account. > > > > I think PayPal & Amazon are better solutions. > > I know PayPal. But what is Amazon ? It's a PayPal-like service, created by Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/honor/ []s Nelson From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Tue Aug 5 17:02:59 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:02:59 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <1060095482.674.99.camel@...57...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> <1060095482.674.99.camel@...57...> Message-ID: <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Tuesday 05 August 2003 10:58, Nelson Ferraz wrote: > > > The most important: working full time on Gambas. :) > > This is another problem ! > Perhaps we should start conversations with the Free Software Foundation, > with distributions like Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSE, and companies that > support Linux (IBM, HP, Dell, Oracle, etc.) The FSF will want you to get everyone in the project to sign over their copyright to the FSF. While I think this is a good thing when the FSF is involved, I have no idea how Gambas developers feel. I also wonder if the FSF guys will be biased against something as user friendly as Gambas ;) Approaching one of the Linux vendors seems appealing too. Lindows already seems to be pushing (and using) Gambas quite a bit, though I don't know if I'd want to hitch my wagon to Lindows' star. Mandrake seems like the best choice since two of the main Gambas developers are in France and Mandrake favors ease of use, but they're in the middle of their own problems.... Anyway, the thought of a Linux VB killer has got to be exciting to some of those companies you mention, though of course each of them has their own aims that may or may not be compatible with Benoit's. I'd say IBM would be the best bet except they have their own currently unusable RAD tools based on Mozilla, Java and what have you. Dell's never been much for software in the first place. Oracle will be afraid of it because it already supports Mysql/Postgres but not Oracle. Still, there are a number of ways this could be done.... Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Tue Aug 5 17:08:03 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:08:03 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] stand-alone Gambas Message-ID: <200308051108.03793.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> We can already make stand-alone executable files of our Gambas projects. Would it be possible to build a "static" version of Gambas that includes all the lib.gb.* linked into it statically somehow? Then, in turn, we could work on packaging that executable into Gambas archives and before you know it we'd have an answer to the "how to easily distribute Gambas apps" problem posed by the Croatians in Benoit's initial email about the foundation. I don't know how much the internals of Gambas would be affected by this kind of thing or I'd post it to Gambas-devel. Rob From nferraz at ...184... Tue Aug 5 17:39:03 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 05 Aug 2003 12:39:03 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> <1060095482.674.99.camel@...57...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <1060097943.714.173.camel@...57...> > > Perhaps we should start conversations with the Free Software Foundation, > > with distributions like Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSE, and companies that > > support Linux (IBM, HP, Dell, Oracle, etc.) > > The FSF will want you to get everyone in the project to sign over their > copyright to the FSF. While I think this is a good thing when the FSF is > involved, I have no idea how Gambas developers feel. I also wonder if the > FSF guys will be biased against something as user friendly as Gambas ;) > > Approaching one of the Linux vendors seems appealing too. Lindows already > seems to be pushing (and using) Gambas quite a bit, though I don't know if > I'd want to hitch my wagon to Lindows' star. Mandrake seems like the best > choice since two of the main Gambas developers are in France and Mandrake > favors ease of use, but they're in the middle of their own problems.... Well, The first thing to do, in my opinion, is to develop a project plan. We could start by answering these questions: What is Gambas? How far is the project development? What still have to be done? What/How much do you need, and how these resources will be applied? If you have a good project and can answer these questions, I'm sure you can get the involvement of a few companies. []s Nelson From girardhenri at ...67... Tue Aug 5 17:47:19 2003 From: girardhenri at ...67... (Henri Girard) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:47:19 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> <1060095482.674.99.camel@...57...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: I give my opinion as we are in a country of liberty !!!! (that's not so sure nowadays ...) If gambas deal with money I stop being interested ! I am anti-capitalist and in france, fundation is the right way of deturning... laws !!! Well somebody said :" if I would like to make money I wouldn't create a fundation but a firm... well not sure that's works ???? " I mean in France ! Enjoy HG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? On Tuesday 05 August 2003 10:58, Nelson Ferraz wrote: > > > The most important: working full time on Gambas. :) > > This is another problem ! > Perhaps we should start conversations with the Free Software Foundation, > with distributions like Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSE, and companies that > support Linux (IBM, HP, Dell, Oracle, etc.) The FSF will want you to get everyone in the project to sign over their copyright to the FSF. While I think this is a good thing when the FSF is involved, I have no idea how Gambas developers feel. I also wonder if the FSF guys will be biased against something as user friendly as Gambas ;) Approaching one of the Linux vendors seems appealing too. Lindows already seems to be pushing (and using) Gambas quite a bit, though I don't know if I'd want to hitch my wagon to Lindows' star. Mandrake seems like the best choice since two of the main Gambas developers are in France and Mandrake favors ease of use, but they're in the middle of their own problems.... Anyway, the thought of a Linux VB killer has got to be exciting to some of those companies you mention, though of course each of them has their own aims that may or may not be compatible with Benoit's. I'd say IBM would be the best bet except they have their own currently unusable RAD tools based on Mozilla, Java and what have you. Dell's never been much for software in the first place. Oracle will be afraid of it because it already supports Mysql/Postgres but not Oracle. Still, there are a number of ways this could be done.... Rob ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From nferraz at ...184... Tue Aug 5 18:52:15 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 05 Aug 2003 13:52:15 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> <1060095482.674.99.camel@...57...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <1060102338.534.17.camel@...185...> > If gambas deal with money I stop being interested ! I don't understand why. Gambas is a great project, and it will bring many people from Windows to GNU/Linux. It will be dealing with money, directly or not. It would be great if Benoit could get paid for working on Gambas. It would be great for all of us who work with GNU/Linux, as more people would be able to contribute with free software. Heck, it would be great for VB programmers, since they would have a free alternative and Microsoft would be forced to lower its prices and improve the quality of its tools! Now, if the payment would come from a Foundation or from a private company, that's another discussion. []s Nelson From karl.reinl at ...9... Tue Aug 5 21:45:49 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:45:49 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <1060032685.550.88.camel@...185...> <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <3F30096D.4050303@...9...> Benoit Minisini schrieb: >Le Lundi 4 Ao?t 2003 23:31, Nelson Ferraz a ?crit : > > >>>I want to create a sort of Gambas fundation to collect gifts. >>> >>> >>Will it be a real non-profit organization or an informal one? >> >> > >It will be a non-profit organization. If I want to make profit, I make my own >company without disturbing people. :-) > >It will be informal at the beginning, because creating a non-profit >association in France takes three months, needs a president and a treasurer, >needs a board of directors, and I don't know how non-French people can >subscribe to the association. > >If the gifts become important, I think I will be obliged to create a formal >structure, but at the moment, I think simpler is better. > > > >>>Many people help Gambas by providing code, translations, Wiki server, >>>help, etc... Giving money (a little) could be a way for people without >>>technical skills to help the project. >>> >>> >>Some companies could donate significant amounts if they could deduce >>that from their taxes; other companies could donate equipament and >>services. >> >> > >In France, I need to create a non-profit association (1901 law) that must be >officially recognized by the government. Elsewhere, the gifts cannot be >deduced from the taxes. And to be recognized, such an association must exist >from at least 5 years (I think), and must have an important budget and number >of members ! > > If it is this old 'Loi 1901'. Everybody, even NON-French and none living in France, can be member, by getting a member-card. ( this was so till 1991 (till this time I ran one with friends in Ari?ge)). How to get a member-card, depents of the association. But I'm not shure that a project like gambas will have a chance, to become 'public interests' whats the base of 'loi 1901'. But times changes and why shouldn't do that 'public interests'. After if you have a association, with a minimum off three administrative members (it is possible with two) . For administration, the same statue as for members, NON-French and none living in France is possible. But you must have once a year a administative- meeting and a meeting with all members of the association (must be inventied and not all there). At this time, the administrative-election is usual. But you also can aske for help at http://www.gnuhh.org/ President of the Free Software Foundation Europe > > >>>For example, I could use the gifts to do the following : >>> >>>- Buying VMWare. >>>- Buying an ADSL access, so that I can download the last version of any >>>distributions. (I have a 56K modem) >>>- Buying SuSE 8.2, or other distributions I can't download. >>> Not that I'm still a fan off SuSE, but you can download at : http://www.suse.de/en/private/download/index.html >>>- Debugging Gambas on all these systems. >>>- ... >>> >>> >>The most important: working full time on Gambas. :) >> >> > >This is another problem ! > > > >>>I will publish my own bank account international coordinates : they are >>>just two codes, the IBAN code and the SWIFT code. >>> >>>With these two codes, everybody in the world can transfer money on my >>>bank account. >>> >>> >>I think PayPal & Amazon are better solutions. >> >> > >I know PayPal. But what is Amazon ? > > > From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 5 21:56:35 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 21:56:35 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 5 Ao?t 2003 17:47, Henri Girard a ?crit : > I give my opinion as we are in a country of liberty !!!! (that's not so > sure nowadays ...) > If gambas deal with money I stop being interested ! > I am anti-capitalist and in france, fundation is the right way of > deturning... laws !!! > Well somebody said :" if I would like to make money I wouldn't create a > fundation but a firm... > well not sure that's works ???? " I mean in France ! > Enjoy > HG > If I want to earn my life with Gambas (this would be a great thing), I have several possibilities, like creating my own company to sell services for example. But my idea of a "fundation" (I didn't find a better name) is simply a way to collect little gifts without the weight of creating and managing a real structure that have the "moral personality" (it is the juridic term in France, I think - correct me if I'm wrong). At the moment, I prefer spending more time on coding than on public relations. If gifts become important, I think the tax collectors will yell :-) But if the amount of gifts is not important (I don't think somebody will give me thousands of dollars), there will be no problem. This money is not for letting me live ! It is just to allow me to buy useful software or hardware for Gambas without ruining me :-). And it is a way for non technical Gambas users to symbolically help the project. And as for the anti-capitalist thing... I don't want to begin a political debate, even if I love them :-) I just want to give a few remarks about that... - Capitalism needs money, but we can use money without using capitalism. - Capitalism is money + interest, i.e. a system that allows people having money to earn more money without doing anything - This is the power of capital ! - Money existed at the time of egyptian pharaohs. But you can't say that they were capitalists ! - Usury (i.e. interest) is forbidden in many religions : for example, in the Coran, in "the cow", verse #275, #276, #278... Why ? - Money give more money just because of the bank system. - I don't think I'm a evil capitalist just because I want to let people give money to the project ;-) - Microsoft had had a project to replace the international bank system by its own (for its profit of course), but it didn't succeed - maybe they have found stronger than them ! So, if you are anti-capitalist, write a free program - in Gambas :-) - that allows anybody making secure transactions via a network without the need of a centralized bank system. It could help :-) Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From nferraz at ...184... Tue Aug 5 22:02:45 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 05 Aug 2003 17:02:45 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <1060113768.534.85.camel@...185...> > - Capitalism is money + interest, i.e. a system that allows people having > money to earn more money without doing anything - This is the power of > capital ! Socialist countries don't have banks? Their banks don't have interest rates??? It must be an inneficient way of lending money, mustn't it? ;) []s Nelson From karl.reinl at ...9... Tue Aug 5 22:18:31 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:18:31 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> <1060095482.674.99.camel@...57...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <3F301117.5050509@...9...> Henri Girard schrieb: >I give my opinion as we are in a country of liberty !!!! (that's not so sure >nowadays ...) > I say it proud , i say it loud >If gambas deal with money I stop being interested ! > Don't anderstand me wrong, but you are using the captial of Benoit, if you are using gambas. Why wil you be no more interst in gambas if HE deals with money. (you use reiserfs ? kde ? short Linux ????????????????????????????????) Money makes the world go around >I am anti-capitalist and in france, fundation is the right way of >deturning... laws !!+ > Since when anti-capitalist shout against deturning... laws >Well somebody said :" if I would like to make money I wouldn't create a >fundation but a firm... > Those who sait this are right,. >well not sure that's works ???? " I mean in France ! > Surtout pas la. >Enjoy >HG > > Charlie From karl.reinl at ...9... Tue Aug 5 22:48:37 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:48:37 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> <1060113768.534.85.camel@...185...> Message-ID: <3F301825.3090602@...9...> Nelson Ferraz schrieb: >>- Capitalism is money + interest, i.e. a system that allows people having >>money to earn more money without doing anything - This is the power of >>capital ! >> >> > >Socialist countries don't have banks? >Their banks don't have interest rates??? > They have/had banks , no change from usual thinking. > >It must be an inneficient way of lending money, mustn't it? ;) > >[]s > >Nelson > > From vschmid at ...210... Wed Aug 6 08:19:54 2003 From: vschmid at ...210... (Volker Schmid) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 08:19:54 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: Hi Benoit, This discussion is useless. Simply give us your account data and receive everything what comes as a 'donation'. Regard it as a personal present to support the gambas development. If a company prefer to speed up the implementation of a function to gambas, then take the money as a donation and pay attention of their wishes. Simply, but why not? You also must live on what. Such donations don't influence the licence(!) of gambas. Gambas remains freely and for everyone available in the source code. Hope I helped! Keep on working this great job! Volker From gambas at ...2... Wed Aug 6 08:31:43 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:31:43 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <1060113768.534.85.camel@...185...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> <1060113768.534.85.camel@...185...> Message-ID: <200308060831.43187.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 5 Ao?t 2003 22:02, Nelson Ferraz a ?crit : > > - Capitalism is money + interest, i.e. a system that allows people having > > money to earn more money without doing anything - This is the power of > > capital ! > > Socialist countries don't have banks? > Their banks don't have interest rates??? Are^H^H^H Were "Socialist countries" really socialist then ? Many historians call them "state capitalism" ! -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... Wed Aug 6 09:46:03 2003 From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:46:03 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 In-Reply-To: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> References: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308060946.03003.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> On Friday 01 August 2003 11:28 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote: > - Make gambas work on as many systems as possible > Tell me if you think I forgot something... Make Gambas executable that doesn't need end user to install whole Gambas package in order to run it? (yes, I know I'm bitching on that one... ;) -- Radoslav Dejanovi?, founder and director Operacijski sustavi d.o.o. http://www.opsus.hr From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... Wed Aug 6 09:55:00 2003 From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:55:00 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308042259.11746.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308042259.11746.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308060955.00044.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> On Monday 04 August 2003 10:59 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote: > Of course, our so lovely banks will take their commission, but I don't know > how much it is. I think giving 5? will disappear in the bank hyperspace ! Nope, it is the sender who has to pay for the transfer, not the receiver. Though, from my experience (donated some money to Blender and FSF Europe), sending 5? or so would just make you mad at the banking system, because you'll have to pay more than that just for transaction. :) Your side is clear - you get the money, you spend the money. Your bank shouldn't charge you anything. -- Radoslav Dejanovi?, founder and director Operacijski sustavi d.o.o. http://www.opsus.hr From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... Wed Aug 6 10:32:40 2003 From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:32:40 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308061032.40301.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> On Monday 04 August 2003 10:00 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote: > One, a Croatian people, wants some functionnalities in Gambas, and want to > give me money for that. > A second, a Indian people, wants to sell Linux boxes with gambas, and > wanted to give money to the people who develop Gambas. > The two cases are different : the first is paying me for a (not really) > specific functionnality, and the second is helping the community in > general. The first would be me, I presume. :) I'd just like to clarify some things, and since you seem to be ready to make a fundation, to put it open to public opinion. What my company is doing, among other things (you can check english pages on the link below), is something called HRID.office. It is Mandrake based Linux distribution forged together with Croatian LUG, aimed at corporate desktop users. It is our attention to have something ready for a SOHO enviroment, but not limited to that, of course. :) It is important to office users to have something they can work on. They're not interested in playing games (yeah, sure!) or compiling software from the source, tweaking kernel parameters etc. They need working evnironment, and we're trying to give them just that. Therefore HRID.office lacks many aspects of "ordinary" Linux distributions, but it is very strong in office tools, including OpenOffice with Croatian spellcheck (a killer feature), and already set up connectivity to the PostgreSQL database with some addressbook table acting as an example of how easy is for OOo to talk to the database (once it is set up). With that and some other features (including nice wallpaper images, even if you laugh at me for thinking background images are one of important features for such a distribution) I belive we've made a complete SOHO alternative for Microsoft Windows+Office. We have strong office package, really strong database engine, and there's just that one piece of software to make it able to completely cover the needs. And that would be - VB replacement! :-) There are numbers of people writing in VB, and hundreds of thousands of lines written in VB code. There's much knowledge put into that. But, if one has to switch to Linux, (s)he would have to learn some other languages. PHP is just fine for server scripting, Perl is an excellent langugage if you don't have to deal with GUI (and still has something to offer in that area), C is everywhere but you have to learn it... With Gambas, they can much more easily switch from Windows to Linux. Not all of VB coders are professionals, many of them use it to solve their daily tasks and do not plan to switch to professional coders. They have no time for learning new language, but should be ready to switch from VB to something VB-like and start producing for Linux platform. To do that, they need Gambas 1.0 with finished, accurate documentation. It is of extreme importance to give them stable, mature and bug free Gambas, or they just won't switch. :) It is important to have good documents on the language as well, for that will help them switch to something that isn't 100% compatible. The other point, making Gambas executables working without the need for end user to install whole Gambas package, goes this line. It is important to make things as easy and trasparent as possible for the end-user. The ideal solution would be if the user shouldn't be aware of any dependencies, (s)he would just run the application. No mess with installing Gambas, no mess with libraries - download it, run it and enjoy it. There are three ways possible: 1. Gambas is mature and great language. Every distribution maker has it installed by default, so everyone has it on their machines, so noone is even aware that the application they downloaded use some programs they already have on their computers. Achievable, but full of potential issues (what if someone decides not to install Gambas?) 2. Like VB, there's just one component (aka VBRUN.DLL) user have to download and put to some special place in order to get applications running. That's quite ugly if you ask me, but years have proven that users are able to do such "compliated" routine. Ugly, but working. Issues are wheter the user wants to hassle with root password and navigate trough cryptic directories. Partial solution would be making the system that could automatically download and install required files from the Internet (that means lot of hard work for Benoit or someone else who would have to maintain that site). 3. Making standalone executables. The cleanest, and as it seems, the hardest to implement. But the advantages are enormous. Applications becomes self-supported, there's no need to compile and recompile things, there's no need to have whole Gambas installed in order to run the app, and penetration is much better - people just love the app they can download and run, not worrying about the dependencies and chances to break something on their systems. Conclusion: having VB-like killer application would make more attraction for existing Office/VB users. But it has to be as smooth transition as possible, or it just won't work out. Now, to clarify my position. It is certainly not my intention to take anything away from the community. It is just the fact that I'm ready to spend some money on specific issues, such as language maturity and stability, documentation and ability to produce standalone binaries. I find them useful, I think they're good for both me and you who read this, and everything will be given back to the community - I have no intention to lock or "embrace and extend" anything. The code will remain free, it is just that I'll get what I'd like to see in Gambas, developers will get some monetary revard for their efforts, and everyone else will be able to use these features for free, and as it pleases them, without any obligation. I belive it is a fair game. I would like to hear from you on these topics. Code maturity is in progress now, so no need to talk about that. Standalone executables, documentation? -- Radoslav Dejanovi?, founder and director Operacijski sustavi d.o.o. http://www.opsus.hr From elentirmo at ...20... Wed Aug 6 11:28:27 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 11:28:27 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 In-Reply-To: <200308050937.39860.elentirmo@...20...> References: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> <200308050937.39860.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <200308061128.27387.elentirmo@...20...> Hi, as I wrote yesterday I had no issues compiling and running gambas. But after running through all of the examples I encountered something weird. Running the OnScrenDisplay example I get the following error-message in line 32: 'Type mismatched: wanted Integer, got String instead'. As I understand it the third argument for Draw.Text is a String, which sText actually is, so why does this error occur? All of the other examples run perfectly well. To everyone involved: You really did a great job with gambas! Gru? Marco From eng_ak at ...200... Wed Aug 6 11:38:48 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:38:48 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 In-Reply-To: <200308061128.27387.elentirmo@...20...> References: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> <200308050937.39860.elentirmo@...20...> <200308061128.27387.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <3F30CCA8.8030407@...200...> Bec Draw.Text was changed in ver 0.63, probably the example wasn't updated. Marco Bauer wrote: >Hi, > >as I wrote yesterday I had no issues compiling and running gambas. But after >running through all of the examples I encountered something weird. Running >the OnScrenDisplay example I get the following error-message in line 32: >'Type mismatched: wanted Integer, got String instead'. >As I understand it the third argument for Draw.Text is a String, which sText >actually is, so why does this error occur? >All of the other examples run perfectly well. > >To everyone involved: You really did a great job with gambas! > >Gru? >Marco > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >_______________________________________________ >Gambas-user mailing list >Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > > > From girardhenri at ...67... Wed Aug 6 12:49:02 2003 From: girardhenri at ...67... (Henri Girard) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:49:02 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: Thanks Benoit for you answer :) I think you ought to open a debat... You said things which are quiete deep.... Naturally it would be better in French because we are french speaking people ... But as most capitalist people use "english" as the reference ... I will keep it this way... You culture about religion is very interesting... I even never thaught as a "coder" you could have had time to get it... But as you wrote in your website about you ideas... I am very involved too in philosophical/spiritual / maths/ physics matters... Well to come back to the point of gambas... Some people wrote things which are quite dangerous as ideology... If non coder... they can help with giving a gift !!! Coder is a gift in french (don) and I don't know why people who are newbies or not good coder should "pay" for the expert ? More the expert are paid by the plaisir they take to do it... By their passion !!! Before ending my professional life as an Analyst... I had many jobs... (in france a proverb says : 36 jobs 36 miseries !!!) In your case I think you should start it as "start up"... And every body would know the orientation you are having... Look : trolltech ? they don't even make qt 3xx open source for windows... If you remenber well when they started qt and kde a fundation was created and now one knows what the end !!! A linux distribution do the same... Capitalism hidden under open source !!! The egyptian civilisation felt !!! Why ? because riche and poor... master ans slave... Today I worked 45y... capitalism slavage... Human being mustn't be treated as a slave !!! BY NO ONE !!! You are a privileged class... Intellectual... People doing with pleasure, passioned people by the job they do... So you are already paid !!! with the pleasure you get out of it !! I am developping a theory which will have an impact in future... I won't ever get money from it !!! Because I don't deserve the "spirit" who made me able to do it... My destiny is not money !!! It has been giving by God like every human being on earth... So money is not from God but from evil... That's why there is so much cupidity in human being looking for money and power... To close... What you will decide will always be the right thing for you and the people who believe in it... But for me you will change of "spirit"... From good you become evil... (even if you don't feel it at the moment... Life is long and one has enaugh time to think back about what his works are...) But know I will forgive you what ever you do... That's the only way for me to give you a chance not being tempted... And if you are a spiritual ignorant (to a certain extend today) you have already done a certain way... Maybe that's the reason today of this "desir" of a fundation... You will always have enaugh devils to follow you in this way... God doesn't trust money... Even if US people believe it !!Those who are christians should know this : No one can have two masters, love and money, either he loves one and hate the other... LOve is God money is Mamon .. Devil.... So that's the way I know sincere spirits or people who have just "chat"... Speech hypnotise people... Sorry for being so long... God bless you :) HG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benoit Minisini" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? Le Mardi 5 Ao?t 2003 17:47, Henri Girard a ?crit : > I give my opinion as we are in a country of liberty !!!! (that's not so > sure nowadays ...) > If gambas deal with money I stop being interested ! > I am anti-capitalist and in france, fundation is the right way of > deturning... laws !!! > Well somebody said :" if I would like to make money I wouldn't create a > fundation but a firm... > well not sure that's works ???? " I mean in France ! > Enjoy > HG > If I want to earn my life with Gambas (this would be a great thing), I have several possibilities, like creating my own company to sell services for example. But my idea of a "fundation" (I didn't find a better name) is simply a way to collect little gifts without the weight of creating and managing a real structure that have the "moral personality" (it is the juridic term in France, I think - correct me if I'm wrong). At the moment, I prefer spending more time on coding than on public relations. If gifts become important, I think the tax collectors will yell :-) But if the amount of gifts is not important (I don't think somebody will give me thousands of dollars), there will be no problem. This money is not for letting me live ! It is just to allow me to buy useful software or hardware for Gambas without ruining me :-). And it is a way for non technical Gambas users to symbolically help the project. And as for the anti-capitalist thing... I don't want to begin a political debate, even if I love them :-) I just want to give a few remarks about that... - Capitalism needs money, but we can use money without using capitalism. - Capitalism is money + interest, i.e. a system that allows people having money to earn more money without doing anything - This is the power of capital ! - Usury (i.e. interest) is forbidden in many religions : for example, in the Coran, in "the cow", verse #275, #276, #278... Why ? - Money give more money just because of the bank system. - I don't think I'm a evil capitalist just because I want to let people give money to the project ;-) - Microsoft had had a project to replace the international bank system by its own (for its profit of course), but it didn't succeed - maybe they have found stronger than them ! So, if you are anti-capitalist, write a free program - in Gambas :-) - that allows anybody making secure transactions via a network without the need of a centralized bank system. It could help :-) Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From girardhenri at ...67... Wed Aug 6 12:54:29 2003 From: girardhenri at ...67... (Henri Girard) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:54:29 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> <1060113768.534.85.camel@...185...> <200308060831.43187.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: why oppose socialist to capitalism ? I am not socialist... neither am I capitalism... Last nazis war killed 80000000 people... in 5, 6 y Capitalism kills 250 000 000 each years... Without counting abortions who is one the two capitalism "tist" !!! Money is sticking (puant)... and people who love it are zombies... But everybody has the right to choose its own way.... Except when the majority influence by pression the minority... Liberty of majority is oppression of minority :) God bless you Henri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benoit Minisini" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? Le Mardi 5 Ao?t 2003 22:02, Nelson Ferraz a ?crit : > > - Capitalism is money + interest, i.e. a system that allows people having > > money to earn more money without doing anything - This is the power of > > capital ! > > Socialist countries don't have banks? > Their banks don't have interest rates??? Are^H^H^H Were "Socialist countries" really socialist then ? Many historians call them "state capitalism" ! -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From girardhenri at ...67... Wed Aug 6 12:58:11 2003 From: girardhenri at ...67... (Henri Girard) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:58:11 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <1060032685.550.88.camel@...185...> <200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> <3F30096D.4050303@...9...> Message-ID: Yes it's of public interest... This kind of law can hidde any maffia ideologie... Gambas is not a maffia interest ... so it's able to do it... this kind of association is very easy to mount... That's why it can be dangerous... Very often we hear of scandal... the last was with cancer !!!! a fundation of no-profit !!!! kind regards Henri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? Benoit Minisini schrieb: >Le Lundi 4 Ao?t 2003 23:31, Nelson Ferraz a ?crit : > > >>>I want to create a sort of Gambas fundation to collect gifts. >>> >>> >>Will it be a real non-profit organization or an informal one? >> >> > >It will be a non-profit organization. If I want to make profit, I make my own >company without disturbing people. :-) > >It will be informal at the beginning, because creating a non-profit >association in France takes three months, needs a president and a treasurer, >needs a board of directors, and I don't know how non-French people can >subscribe to the association. > >If the gifts become important, I think I will be obliged to create a formal >structure, but at the moment, I think simpler is better. > > > >>>Many people help Gambas by providing code, translations, Wiki server, >>>help, etc... Giving money (a little) could be a way for people without >>>technical skills to help the project. >>> >>> >>Some companies could donate significant amounts if they could deduce >>that from their taxes; other companies could donate equipament and >>services. >> >> > >In France, I need to create a non-profit association (1901 law) that must be >officially recognized by the government. Elsewhere, the gifts cannot be >deduced from the taxes. And to be recognized, such an association must exist >from at least 5 years (I think), and must have an important budget and number >of members ! > > If it is this old 'Loi 1901'. Everybody, even NON-French and none living in France, can be member, by getting a member-card. ( this was so till 1991 (till this time I ran one with friends in Ari?ge)). How to get a member-card, depents of the association. But I'm not shure that a project like gambas will have a chance, to become 'public interests' whats the base of 'loi 1901'. But times changes and why shouldn't do that 'public interests'. After if you have a association, with a minimum off three administrative members (it is possible with two) . For administration, the same statue as for members, NON-French and none living in France is possible. But you must have once a year a administative- meeting and a meeting with all members of the association (must be inventied and not all there). At this time, the administrative-election is usual. But you also can aske for help at http://www.gnuhh.org/ President of the Free Software Foundation Europe > > >>>For example, I could use the gifts to do the following : >>> >>>- Buying VMWare. >>>- Buying an ADSL access, so that I can download the last version of any >>>distributions. (I have a 56K modem) >>>- Buying SuSE 8.2, or other distributions I can't download. >>> Not that I'm still a fan off SuSE, but you can download at : http://www.suse.de/en/private/download/index.html >>>- Debugging Gambas on all these systems. >>>- ... >>> >>> >>The most important: working full time on Gambas. :) >> >> > >This is another problem ! > > > >>>I will publish my own bank account international coordinates : they are >>>just two codes, the IBAN code and the SWIFT code. >>> >>>With these two codes, everybody in the world can transfer money on my >>>bank account. >>> >>> >>I think PayPal & Amazon are better solutions. >> >> > >I know PayPal. But what is Amazon ? > > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From girardhenri at ...67... Wed Aug 6 13:04:39 2003 From: girardhenri at ...67... (Henri Girard) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 13:04:39 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308052156.35451.gambas@...2...> <1060113768.534.85.camel@...185...> <3F301825.3090602@...9...> Message-ID: well people you seem to be unaware of capitalism destruction... Money doesn't exist !!! Everybody knows how many fiscal paradises are around the world... asia.. swissland... (for those it's even worse... just look historically) I just have been laid off from a japan / french firm... French is only the site as long as they need it in Europe... but it won't last long... They are laying off 300 people in name of capitalism and french state benediction... Well at the end who will pay ? Don't be blind people... Today even making a fundation can be dangerous... as long as you are honest people.. That's why it needs this debat :) HG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? > Nelson Ferraz schrieb: > > >>- Capitalism is money + interest, i.e. a system that allows people having > >>money to earn more money without doing anything - This is the power of > >>capital ! > >> > >> > > > >Socialist countries don't have banks? > >Their banks don't have interest rates??? > > > They have/had banks , no change from usual thinking. > > > > >It must be an inneficient way of lending money, mustn't it? ;) > > > >[]s > > > >Nelson > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > From girardhenri at ...67... Wed Aug 6 13:08:20 2003 From: girardhenri at ...67... (Henri Girard) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 13:08:20 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...><200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> <1060095482.674.99.camel@...57...><200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <1060102338.534.17.camel@...185...> Message-ID: > Now, if the payment would come from a Foundation or from a private > company, that's another discussion. I think that's the answer... a fundation is not a proper way of making money.. Fundation had been for charicative purposes... Not for professional ones.. Then as a firm it would respect it's purpose... Henri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Ferraz" To: "Gambas Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? > > If gambas deal with money I stop being interested ! > > I don't understand why. > > Gambas is a great project, and it will bring many people from Windows to > GNU/Linux. It will be dealing with money, directly or not. > > It would be great if Benoit could get paid for working on Gambas. It > would be great for all of us who work with GNU/Linux, as more people > would be able to contribute with free software. > > Heck, it would be great for VB programmers, since they would have a free > alternative and Microsoft would be forced to lower its prices and > improve the quality of its tools! > > Now, if the payment would come from a Foundation or from a private > company, that's another discussion. > > []s > > Nelson > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > From girardhenri at ...67... Wed Aug 6 13:16:24 2003 From: girardhenri at ...67... (Henri Girard) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 13:16:24 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? sponsoring ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...><200308051023.17353.gambas@...2...> <1060095482.674.99.camel@...57...><200308051102.59390.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <1060102338.534.17.camel@...185...> Message-ID: Did you think about being sponsord ? I think that's more what you are looking for ? HG From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... Wed Aug 6 13:20:33 2003 From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 13:20:33 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <1060102338.534.17.camel@...185...> Message-ID: <200308061320.33146.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 01:08 pm, Henri Girard wrote: > I think that's the answer... a fundation is not a proper way of making > money.. > Fundation had been for charicative purposes... Not for professional ones.. > Then as a firm it would respect it's purpose... Companies can't be nonprofit. They have to pay taxes on whatever they do, as well. ;) -- Radoslav Dejanovi?, founder and director Operacijski sustavi d.o.o. http://www.opsus.hr From ozdilt at ...190... Wed Aug 6 13:58:46 2003 From: ozdilt at ...190... (=?windows-1254?B?1lpE3UwgVEFORVLd?=) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:58:46 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] PAYING FOR GAMBAS Message-ID: <001401c35c12$188d8380$0100a8c0@...191...> HI I WOULD PAY STH. FOR GAMBAS BUT IF IT WORKED ON MND 9.1 SYSTEM IT GIVES THE FOOL MISTAKE "CANNOT LOAD CONGIG.CLASS" SO I COULD NOT SEE WHAT IS GAMBAS LIKE I WOULD ALSO TRANSLATE IT INTO TURKISH BUT I COULD NOT BECAUSE IT DID NOT WORK I WILL BE WAITING 0.64-5-6-7-8 OR 0.7 OR MAY BE 1.xxx TO TRANSLATE YESTERDAY I DID COMPILE AND INSTALL HBASIC 0.98 BUT IT ALSO HAVE BUGS U CANNOT DELETE THINGS THAT U ATTACH TO A FORM I HOPE ONE R TWO OF THESE WORK I HAD A VISUAL STUDIO 6.0 PACK (IN FACT IT IS MY BROTHER'S HE IS A STUDENT AND HE BOUGHT IT ACADEMIC PRICED BUT HE DOES NOT INTEREST IN IT NOWADAYS SO I USE) BUT I WANT TO USE LINUX IT IS STRONGER SAFE AND HAVE NO BLUE SCREENS I DID INSTALL A XP PROFESSIONAL LAST WEEK IT LOOKS AS IF LINUX SHOWS MICROSOFT HOW A OS SHOULD BE BUT I DID NOT LIKE IT DELETED SAME DAY REPLACED IT MND 9.1 SO I AM INTERESTED IN LINUX + GAMBAS (HBASIC PHOENIX ETC) I CAN DONATE SOME FOR GAMBAS I AM A PHARMACIST MY PHARMACY TAKES A LOT OF TIME I SPEND 12 HOURS OR MORE IN MY PHARMACY AND I THINK AS FAR AS I KNOW I AM THE ONLY PHARMACIST WHO USES THE STOCK CONTROL PROGRAM AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT CODED BYSELF. IF I SOLVE MY PROBLEMS ABOUT LINUX I WILL LET PEOPLE USE MY PROGRAMS LIKE BENOIT DOES... A FREE PROGRAM THAT DOES THE 1000$ PROGRAMS DO... MOST OF THE PHARMACISTS USE PACKAGES SOLD FOR 750-1000$ BUT IN MY COUNTRY WE ARE FORCED TO USE MS WINDOWS BECAUSE OUR GOVERMENT USE MS WINDOWS +INTERNET EXPLORER BASED APPLICATION FOR PHARMACY SECTOR I MEAN SOCIAL AND HEALTH CARE SYSTEM THE PRESCRIPTION ARE PAID BY THEM (%80-%90) WE USE A SYSTEM OVER INTERNET EVERY PATIENT, EVERY PRESCRIPTION IS REGISTERED TO THEIR MAINFRAME IN ANKARA (CAPITOL OF TURKEY) UNFORTUNATELY ALTHOUGH THEY ARE WRITTEN JAVA (ONE IS IBM VISUAL AGE FOR JAVA I THINK) THEY DO NOT WORK ON LINUX SYSTEMS THE SITES GIVE ERROR IF I CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM I WILL SWITCH TO LINUX SO U MAY HELP ME RUNNING A JAVA VIRTUAL MACHINE ON LINUX ? THANX OZDIL FROM TURKEY --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 24.07.2003 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fj.cruz at ...179... Wed Aug 6 16:10:08 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:10:08 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] PAYING FOR GAMBAS In-Reply-To: <001401c35c12$188d8380$0100a8c0@...191...> References: <001401c35c12$188d8380$0100a8c0@...191...> Message-ID: <200308061610.08551.fj.cruz@...179...> El Mi?rcoles, 6 de Agosto de 2003 13:58, ?ZD?L TANER? escribi?: > HI > I WOULD PAY STH. FOR GAMBAS BUT IF IT WORKED > ON MND 9.1 SYSTEM > IT GIVES THE FOOL MISTAKE > "CANNOT LOAD CONGIG.CLASS" Hi, I'm a Mandrake 9.1 user too (in fact i'm a Mandrake user since version 7.0), and i have been working with gambas since the 0.58 version. The 0.60, 0.61 and 0.62 versions were installed via rpm packages for gambas anda gambas-gui provided by www.kudla.org (look at this page). At this time there isn't a rpm package for the 0.63 version, altough i have compilled and installed this one from de raw sources without problems. The only one different is that with the rpm packages, gambas appear in the Applications/Development/IDE menu. Bye. -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 6 16:01:53 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:01:53 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] PAYING FOR GAMBAS In-Reply-To: <001401c35c12$188d8380$0100a8c0@...191...> References: <001401c35c12$188d8380$0100a8c0@...191...> Message-ID: <200308061001.53031.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 07:58, ?ZD?L TANER? wrote: > I WOULD PAY STH. FOR GAMBAS BUT IF IT WORKED > ON MND 9.1 SYSTEM > IT GIVES THE FOOL MISTAKE > "CANNOT LOAD CONGIG.CLASS" Benoit currently develops Gambas on Mandrake 9.1, and I make packages for Mandrake 9.1 when each version comes out (a little slow this time, I know!) If you are running the RPM version of Gambas, could you do strace gambas >gambas.strace.txt and then email me (just me, because it'll be quite large!) the gambas.strace.txt file? Thanks Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 6 16:08:31 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:08:31 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 In-Reply-To: <200308060946.03003.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> References: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> <200308060946.03003.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> Message-ID: <200308061008.31083.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 03:46, Radoslav Dejanovic wrote: > Make Gambas executable that doesn't need end user to install > whole Gambas package in order to run it? (yes, I know I'm bitching > on that one... ;) This is a problem that requires two steps to a solution... 1. A statically linked optional version of the Gambas interpreter (maybe statically linked only with the lib.gb libraries, since I don't think you want your Gambas standalone executables to include all of Qt and mysql ;) ) 2. A packaging method that combines the existing Gambas archive format with the above statically linked interpreter. This has been done for Perl, Tcl and other languages so I imagine it can be done for Gambas.... but I don't know how, myself. As a side note, we have talked about embedded database functionality and there is an "embedded" version of Qt against which maybe Gambas could be linked.... Not for the mainstream executable, but for a special version of the Gambas interpreter for embedding. Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 6 16:15:10 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:15:10 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] PAYING FOR GAMBAS In-Reply-To: <200308061610.08551.fj.cruz@...179...> References: <001401c35c12$188d8380$0100a8c0@...191...> <200308061610.08551.fj.cruz@...179...> Message-ID: <200308061015.10199.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 10:10, F.J. Cruz wrote: > gambas-gui provided by www.kudla.org (look at this page). At this time > there isn't a rpm package for the 0.63 version, altough i have compilled > and installed this one from de raw sources without problems. The only one They're built for 0.63, and work fine, but I plan on building 0.63 packages for Mandrake 9.0 as well today so I can post them all at once. Rob From girardhenri at ...67... Wed Aug 6 17:00:34 2003 From: girardhenri at ...67... (Henri Girard) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:00:34 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <1060102338.534.17.camel@...185...> <200308061320.33146.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> Message-ID: yes... Normal... why a non-profit company... gambas is professional so call it this name and do as it is.. it's better to say directly the aim of a thing... that bringing confusion in "so called" non-profit firm... that risk one day becoming a company.. non-profit company doesn't "rime" with professional.. HG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Radoslav Dejanovic" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? On Wednesday 06 August 2003 01:08 pm, Henri Girard wrote: > I think that's the answer... a fundation is not a proper way of making > money.. > Fundation had been for charicative purposes... Not for professional ones.. > Then as a firm it would respect it's purpose... Companies can't be nonprofit. They have to pay taxes on whatever they do, as well. ;) -- Radoslav Dejanovi?, founder and director Operacijski sustavi d.o.o. http://www.opsus.hr ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From nferraz at ...184... Wed Aug 6 17:47:48 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 06 Aug 2003 12:47:48 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308061032.40301.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308061032.40301.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> Message-ID: <1060184868.686.14.camel@...57...> > The other point, making Gambas executables working without the need for end > user to install whole Gambas package, goes this line. It is important to make > things as easy and trasparent as possible for the end-user. The ideal > solution would be if the user shouldn't be aware of any dependencies, (s)he > would just run the application. No mess with installing Gambas, no mess with > libraries - download it, run it and enjoy it. There are three ways possible: There is a forth way: Make it easier to build packages, so users will be able to use standard tools like RPM and APT. > Now, to clarify my position. It is certainly not my intention to take anything > away from the community. There is no doubt regarding that! I'd like to thank you for your interest on promoting the advance of Free Software. It would be great if more companies did that. []s Nelson From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 6 18:05:54 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:05:54 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <1060184868.686.14.camel@...57...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308061032.40301.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> <1060184868.686.14.camel@...57...> Message-ID: <200308061205.54911.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:47, Nelson Ferraz wrote: > Make it easier to build packages, so users will be able to use standard > tools like RPM and APT. I've already packaged one Gambas app as an RPM (PVRec.) I could write some gambas code that generates a spec file for a given project so you could possibly generate RPM's directly from Gambas (on RPM-based distributions) but proper generation of RPM's requires (1) the user to be non-root (not a problem, I assume most of us run Gambas as a normal user), (2) the user to have his own RPM tree (and I could certainly create one if need be), and (3) the user to have his .rpmmacros file set up with appropriate values. Now, I could also make an "RPM wizard" in Gambas that would set up those files and directories automatically, but then the question is whether that's beyond the scope of a development environment. I'm guessing it's not, because Kdevelop has some similar options (which I never got to work, but hey, they tried.) Maybe I'll just do it, and submit a patch.... VB has "package and deployment wizard" after all.... of course then we may hear from the Debian users because I have no idea how to generate Debian packages, and then from the BSD users because I have no idea how to create something suitable for the ports system, etc.... One other cool thing I noticed (unrelated to packaging) is that OPIE 1.0 (stable release of a totally GPL'ed OS for Zaurus and other PDA's) has been released, and uses Qt 3 for its desktop. I haven't been brave enough to zap my Zaurus with it to try porting Gambas, but the idea of being able to target handhelds with Gambas gives me a little thrill ;) Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 6 22:43:41 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:43:41 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 rpms for mandrake Message-ID: <200308061643.41427.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Get your Mandrake 9.0 and 9.1 packages here.... http://www.kudla.org/index.php?wl_mode=more&wl_eid=27 Nice new file dialog btw, Fabien! Rob From karl.reinl at ...9... Wed Aug 6 23:12:50 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 23:12:50 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] last two days on gambas list Message-ID: <3F316F52.9050609@...9...> Salut All, after 3 houres writing, I erased all the text written, just to say to all you 'YES live is live' me From Gambasfr at ...11... Wed Aug 6 23:24:00 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:24:00 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 rpms for mandrake In-Reply-To: <200308061643.41427.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308061643.41427.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308062324.01010.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Mercredi 6 Ao?t 2003 22:43, Rob a ?crit : > Get your Mandrake 9.0 and 9.1 packages here.... > > http://www.kudla.org/index.php?wl_mode=more&wl_eid=27 > > Nice new file dialog btw, Fabien! > > Rob > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user Thank, but it's not the end ... :?( i've a lot of but to resolve... Don't use the copy paste process, you should lost some file. Sorry Who is this Henri Girard ? He have really... strange id?as about this world. But i think he must to leave his books, and see that some 'association' company who work very well and don't spend their money to buy private swimming pool or anything else. There are GNU other Company who work with a little bit of monnay like GIMP, Blender, and many else. Because the coding of big free project spend lot of time and freedom today is not really free(in monnay), we need if we wan't a more professionnal GNU tool, some server, and other, for give to users usefull side, to share there code fore exemple. ( like vbfrance.com) And good server are not free ! The gifts ares not for one person but for all the communauty who want to use Gambas. I think, Gambas can beleve a great GNU Tool. And, all help is welcome. If Henri don't like this type of Share philosophie, it's his right. But, i think, that not an usefull discution, because, he have, strong, opinion... And if i have work on Gambas since half past one year... that's i'm no a CAPITALIST ! Maybe my english is no really good, maybe my code too... But you must to re-read the TOB because i've never see somewhere a text where god say monnay is bad. Monnay is just to simplify the exchange, between to person. Imagin if i want to rent a server with potatoes or cognac ? lol, it will be funny! But to fix a value ... Humm that's all Fabien Bodard From Gambasfr at ...11... Wed Aug 6 23:36:54 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:36:54 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 rpms for mandrake In-Reply-To: <200308061643.41427.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308061643.41427.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308062336.54552.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Mercredi 6 Ao?t 2003 22:43, Rob a ?crit : > Get your Mandrake 9.0 and 9.1 packages here.... > > http://www.kudla.org/index.php?wl_mode=more&wl_eid=27 > > Nice new file dialog btw, Fabien! > > Rob > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user Thank, but it's not the end ... :?( i've a lot of but to resolve... Don't use the copy paste process, you should lost some file. Sorry Who is this Henri Girard ? He have really... strange id?as about this world. But i think he must to leave his books, and see that some 'association' company who work very well and don't spend their money to buy private swimming pool or anything else. There are GNU other Company who work with a little bit of monnay like GIMP, Blender, and many else. Because the coding of big free project spend lot of time and freedom today is not really free(in monnay), we need if we wan't a more professionnal GNU tool, some server, and other, for give to users usefull side, to share there code fore exemple. ( like vbfrance.com) And good server are not free ! The gifts ares not for one person but for all the communauty who want to use Gambas. I think, Gambas can beleve a great GNU Tool. And, all help is welcome. If Henri don't like this type of Share philosophie, it's his right. But, i think, that not an usefull discution, because, he have, strong, opinion... And if i have work on Gambas since half past one year... that's i'm no a CAPITALIST ! Maybe my english is no really good, maybe my code too... But you must to re-read the TOB because i've never see somewhere a text where god say monnay is bad. Monnay is just to simplify the exchange, between to person. Imagin if i want to rent a server with potatoes or cognac ? lol, it will be funny! But to fix a value ... Humm that's all Fabien Bodard From nferraz at ...184... Thu Aug 7 01:02:01 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 06 Aug 2003 20:02:01 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas fundation ? In-Reply-To: <200308061205.54911.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308042200.26159.gambas@...2...> <200308061032.40301.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> <1060184868.686.14.camel@...57...> <200308061205.54911.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <1060210922.752.19.camel@...185...> > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:47, Nelson Ferraz wrote: > > Make it easier to build packages, so users will be able to use standard > > tools like RPM and APT. > > I've already packaged one Gambas app as an RPM (PVRec.) I could write some > gambas code that generates a spec file for a given project so you could > possibly generate RPM's directly from Gambas (on RPM-based distributions) That would be really cool! I can help with the Debian packages (as soon as I learn how to build them). > One other cool thing I noticed (unrelated to packaging) is that OPIE 1.0 > (stable release of a totally GPL'ed OS for Zaurus and other PDA's) has been > released, and uses Qt 3 for its desktop. I haven't been brave enough to zap > my Zaurus with it to try porting Gambas, but the idea of being able to target > handhelds with Gambas gives me a little thrill ;) Wow!!! That would be a killer application!!! :) []s Nelson From elentirmo at ...20... Thu Aug 7 09:43:53 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:43:53 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 In-Reply-To: <3F30CCA8.8030407@...200...> References: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> <200308061128.27387.elentirmo@...20...> <3F30CCA8.8030407@...200...> Message-ID: <200308070943.53325.elentirmo@...20...> Am Mittwoch, 6. August 2003 11:38 schrieb Ahmad Kamal: > Bec Draw.Text was changed in ver 0.63, probably the example wasn't updated. But how am I supposed to draw a string into a DrawingArea, cause when I replace sText with "Text" the same error occures? Marco From gambas at ...2... Thu Aug 7 10:24:26 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:24:26 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 In-Reply-To: <200308070943.53325.elentirmo@...20...> References: <200308012328.29790.gambas@...2...> <3F30CCA8.8030407@...200...> <200308070943.53325.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <200308071024.27110.gambas@...2...> Le Jeudi 7 Ao?t 2003 09:43, Marco Bauer a ?crit : > Am Mittwoch, 6. August 2003 11:38 schrieb Ahmad Kamal: > > Bec Draw.Text was changed in ver 0.63, probably the example wasn't > > updated. > > But how am I supposed to draw a string into a DrawingArea, cause when I > replace sText with "Text" the same error occures? > > Marco > > Draw.Text(Text AS String , X AS Integer , Y AS Integer [ , W AS Integer , H AS Integer , Alignment AS Integer ) Example : Draw.Text("Gambas", 10, 10, 200, 150, Align.BottomRight) -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... Thu Aug 7 13:23:11 2003 From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:23:11 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.63 rpms for mandrake In-Reply-To: <200308062324.01010.Gambasfr@...11...> References: <200308061643.41427.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308062324.01010.Gambasfr@...11...> Message-ID: <200308071323.11118.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:24 pm, Fabien BODARD wrote: > Imagin if i want to rent a server with potatoes or cognac ? Well, if you ask me, I wouldn't argue much about exchanging some technology for some fine french wine... ;-) -- Radoslav Dejanovi?, founder and director Operacijski sustavi d.o.o. http://www.opsus.hr From dc at ...95... Thu Aug 7 19:03:54 2003 From: dc at ...95... (Campillo David) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:03:54 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you remove me from the list Message-ID: <55140-2200384717354300@...95...> Hi, Can you remove me from the list... Lot of message to read, and not enough time... But enough time to follow the evolution of Gambas.... Thanks David From gambas at ...2... Thu Aug 7 19:49:55 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:49:55 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you remove me from the list In-Reply-To: <55140-2200384717354300@...95...> References: <55140-2200384717354300@...95...> Message-ID: <200308071949.55326.gambas@...2...> Le Jeudi 7 Ao?t 2003 19:03, Campillo David a ?crit : > Hi, > > Can you remove me from the list... Lot of message to read, and not > enough time... > > But enough time to follow the evolution of Gambas.... > > Thanks > > David > > You can do it yourself from the mailing-list page, on the bottom ! -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From mephisto75 at ...20... Fri Aug 8 15:52:50 2003 From: mephisto75 at ...20... (mephisto75 at ...20...) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:52:50 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How do I.... Message-ID: <200308081352.h78DqoQ26309@...224...> Hello, I've got a few problems and wonder if anybody in this list can help me. 1st I need to implement a "Directory Treeview" which means a Treeview which contains the tree of a give directory. Has anybody already written a code for that and can tell me the best way to do it ? Cause after trying few ideas thelast days I'm kind of stuck. Anyway what about adding such a "Directory Treeview" and maybe a "Directory Listbox" as standartcomponent in the Toolbox ? Because it is commonly used and VB offers such a component. 2nd I want to use a form for opening a file. How do I pass the content of a component e.g. Textbox.text which is part of this form which I opened from the MainClass back to the Mainclass. In general how do I pass over values from one class to the other or the value of a component to another class or read it out from another class ? 3nd when will it be possible to create standalone executeables with Gambas ? Best regards __________________________________________________________________________ Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de From Gambasfr at ...11... Fri Aug 8 17:35:43 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:35:43 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How do I.... In-Reply-To: <200308081352.h78DqoQ26309@...224...> References: <200308081352.h78DqoQ26309@...224...> Message-ID: <200308081735.43427.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Vendredi 8 Ao?t 2003 15:52, mephisto75 at ...20... a ?crit : > Hello, > I've got a few problems and wonder if anybody in this list can help me. > > 1st I need to implement a "Directory Treeview" which means a Treeview which > contains the tree of a give directory. Has anybody already written a code > for that and can tell me the best way to do it ? Cause after trying few > ideas thelast days I'm kind of stuck. > Anyway what about adding such a "Directory Treeview" and maybe a "Directory > Listbox" as standartcomponent in the Toolbox ? Because it is commonly used > and VB offers such a component. in gambas or C++ ? In gambas you can see mine in the file SupSelector.Class in the gambas IDE Source at the SUB Fill_Tree > 2nd I want to use a form for opening a file. How do I pass the content of a > component e.g. Textbox.text which is part of this form which I opened from > the MainClass back to the Mainclass. In general how do I pass over values > from one class to the other or the value of a component to another class or > read it out from another class ? Choose the option in Menu Project>Properties... after... Choose Advenced Option bookmark AND select 'Form control are public' > 3nd when will it be possible to create standalone executeables with Gambas > ? No, to execute a compiled gambas project you need the runtime. Because the compiler just product a pcode. Like vb (not the 6) and vb.n > Best regards > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, > Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user Fabien BODARD From DHoll28158 at ...87... Sat Aug 9 12:22:40 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 06:22:40 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Can background color of editor be changed Message-ID: <188.1d706825.2c662570@...87...> Greetings to all The background color of my code editor is black. I see that some of the screenshots show white. How do I change mine. I am using MDK 9.1, Gambas .63. Regards Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From samuel.derous at ...27... Sat Aug 9 13:18:45 2003 From: samuel.derous at ...27... (Samuel Derous) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 13:18:45 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Can background color of editor be changed In-Reply-To: <188.1d706825.2c662570@...87...> References: <188.1d706825.2c662570@...87...> Message-ID: <200308091318.45790.samuel.derous@...27...> Op zaterdag 9 augustus 2003 12:22, schreef DHoll28158 at ...87...: > Greetings to all > > The background color of my code editor is black. I see that some of the > screenshots show white. How do I change mine. I am using MDK 9.1, Gambas > .63. > Go to < > Regards > Dan From mephisto75 at ...20... Sat Aug 9 18:19:38 2003 From: mephisto75 at ...20... (mephisto75 at ...20...) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 18:19:38 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with TreeView and ColumnView...... Message-ID: <200308091619.h79GJcQ22932@...224...> __________________________________________________________________________ Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de From mephisto75 at ...20... Sat Aug 9 18:31:28 2003 From: mephisto75 at ...20... (mephisto75 at ...20...) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 18:31:28 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with TreeView and ColumnView...... Message-ID: <200308091631.h79GVSQ02432@...224...> OK, If got a Problem with the TreeView maybe anyone can explain to me what's going on there. If you have the following Code: SUB TreeExpand(Objekt AS Object) PRINT Objekt.Current.Key Objekt.MoveBelow PRINT Objekt.Current.Key END Whereas Objekt is a Treeview Object. Both Print Commands Display the same. Seems as if the Interpreter does not even care about the Objekt.MoveBelow Even if I write Objekt.MoveTo("Foobar") NO action and NO complains even if the key "Foorbar" does not even exist in the TreeView Object and I bet this is the same with ColumnViews......... Is this the intended behaviour or did I miss something ? Greeting from Germany __________________________________________________________________________ Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de From karl.reinl at ...9... Sat Aug 9 19:23:18 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 19:23:18 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 7.2 and gambas 0.63 Message-ID: <3F352E06.7060908@...9...> Salut Beno?t, he with his old distro, SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x. ;-) But I have good news . After getting : Creating the library info files... /opt/gambas/bin/gbi: error while loading shared libraries: /opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so: undefined symbol: newItem__11QCollectionPv and I allways configure without KDE I changed in gbi.c else { // preload(argv, "libqt-mt.so libkdecore.so"); preload(argv, "libqt-mt.so"); dir = opendir(_lib_path); a make and a make install later I had a gambas-0.63. Remark , i think this is a disigne failer !? Gambas (now I can see it in all his pride) runs well, after testing and changing some old stuff (Lagnuage is no more in Application). Now I have the hope my tar Application will also run here. YES IT DO But in the Component Explorer i find a gb.qt.kde ( with a crash if I try to open it ). On gentoo I ditn't test yet but 0.62 ran ! Amicalement Charlie From karl.reinl at ...9... Sat Aug 9 21:51:37 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 21:51:37 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] BUG in gambas-0.63 Message-ID: <3F3550C9.3000507@...9...> Salut Beno?t, run the attachet project, and have a look to the local variable windows. If variables are not clearl difference in here names, the local variable window shows you the same Value. (SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x.) amicalement Charlie -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Optional.tar.gz Type: application/x-tar Size: 933 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 9 23:01:03 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 23:01:03 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with TreeView and ColumnView...... In-Reply-To: <200308091631.h79GVSQ02432@...224...> References: <200308091631.h79GVSQ02432@...224...> Message-ID: <200308092301.03791.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 9 Ao?t 2003 18:31, mephisto75 at ...20... a ?crit : > OK, If got a Problem with the TreeView maybe anyone can explain to me > what's going on there. > > If you have the following Code: > > SUB TreeExpand(Objekt AS Object) > PRINT Objekt.Current.Key > Objekt.MoveBelow > PRINT Objekt.Current.Key > END > > Whereas Objekt is a Treeview Object. > > Both Print Commands Display the same. > Seems as if the Interpreter does not even care about the Objekt.MoveBelow > Even if I write Objekt.MoveTo("Foobar") > NO action and NO complains even if the key "Foorbar" does not even exist > in the TreeView Object and I bet this is the same with ColumnViews......... > Is this the intended behaviour or did I miss something ? > > Greeting from Germany > > The Move* methods modify the Item property, not the Current property. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 9 23:19:36 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 23:19:36 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] BUG in gambas-0.63 In-Reply-To: <3F3550C9.3000507@...9...> References: <3F3550C9.3000507@...9...> Message-ID: <200308092319.36832.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 9 Ao?t 2003 21:51, Charlie a ?crit : > Salut Beno?t, > > run the attachet project, and have a look to the local variable windows. > If variables are not clearl difference in here names, the local > variable window shows you the same Value. > (SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x.) > > amicalement > Charlie Thanks Charlie, I will fix the problem for the next version. Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 9 23:27:10 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 23:27:10 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 7.2 and gambas 0.63 In-Reply-To: <3F352E06.7060908@...9...> References: <3F352E06.7060908@...9...> Message-ID: <200308092327.10320.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 9 Ao?t 2003 19:23, Charlie a ?crit : > Salut Beno?t, > > he with his old distro, SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x. > ;-) > > But I have good news . > > After getting : > > Creating the library info files... > /opt/gambas/bin/gbi: error while loading shared libraries: > /opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so: undefined symbol: newItem__11QCollectionPv > > and I allways configure without KDE > I changed in gbi.c > > else > { > // preload(argv, "libqt-mt.so libkdecore.so"); > preload(argv, "libqt-mt.so"); > > dir = opendir(_lib_path); > > a make and a make install later I had a gambas-0.63. > > Remark , i think this is a disigne failer !? Yes ! Even a bug :-o > > Gambas (now I can see it in all his pride) runs well, after testing and > changing some old stuff > (Lagnuage is no more in Application). > Now I have the hope my tar Application will also run here. > > YES IT DO > > But in the Component Explorer i find a gb.qt.kde ( with a crash if I try > to open it ). > > On gentoo I ditn't test yet but 0.62 ran ! > > Amicalement Charlie > > OK, Charlie, I will fix it for the next version. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sun Aug 10 08:05:53 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 02:05:53 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas implementation of robotfindskitten Message-ID: <200308100205.53073.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Tonight I implemented the "Zen simulation" robotfindskitten, which I think should replace "Hello world" as the standard test of any interactive language ;) http://www.kudla.org/index.php?wl_mode=more&wl_eid=28 Rob From DHoll28158 at ...87... Sun Aug 10 13:05:32 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 07:05:32 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas implementation of robotfindskitten Message-ID: <139.23a04d60.2c6780fc@...87...> I tried to download the "robotfindskitten" RPM several times and it kept taking me to a RealPlayer registration dialog box. Since I didn't want to register, I was never able to download it. Regards Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DHoll28158 at ...87... Sun Aug 10 13:43:09 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 07:43:09 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas RPM for MDK 9.1 Message-ID: Thanks to Robs rpm package, I have had Gambas installed for a couple of days now. I am really impressed with what I have seen so far. Thanks Benoit, for the vision and dedication to the project. Thanks Rob, for the RPM and your other contributions. Without the RPM, I probably wouldn't been able to get it installed properly. Thanks to all the other contributors. Some questions 1. What is "Alignment", horizontal and vertical. I haven't been able to figure out what they do. 2. Where is "LCD" and "Splitter". I have seen them mentioned but they do not show up in my Toolbox. 3. Is there a Scrollbar Control. I have used them a lot in my VB work and desperately need them if I am to convert any of my projects. Again, Thanks a lot. I wish I could be of help, instead of just asking dumb questions. I am just a novice VB programmer. Regards Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sun Aug 10 14:23:47 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 08:23:47 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas implementation of robotfindskitten In-Reply-To: <139.23a04d60.2c6780fc@...87...> References: <139.23a04d60.2c6780fc@...87...> Message-ID: <200308100823.47138.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Sunday 10 August 2003 07:05, DHoll28158 at ...87... wrote: > I tried to download the "robotfindskitten" RPM several times and it kept > taking me to a RealPlayer registration dialog box. Since I didn't want to > register, I was never able to download it. If you're using AOL, it's probably hardcoded to force .rpm URL's to get handled by realplayer. (Before it was a Linux packaging format, it was the extension for some realplayer playlist file format or something.) If you're on Windows you probably need to right click and "Save As", or "Download Link" or "Save Target As" or whatever they call it in IE nowadays. Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sun Aug 10 14:34:29 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 08:34:29 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas RPM for MDK 9.1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200308100834.29440.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Sunday 10 August 2003 07:43, DHoll28158 at ...87... wrote: > Thanks Rob, for the RPM and your other contributions. I'm glad to help people discover Gambas. > 1. What is "Alignment", horizontal and vertical. I haven't been able to > figure out what they do. Alignment works like it does in a spreadsheet cell. It refers to where the text will appear on the label/button/whatever.... left justified, centered, at the top, at the bottom, etc. You can see it more easily if you experiment with it using a pretty big control. I'm pretty sure VB has the same property though I don't remember, it might be called "align" or something instead. > 2. Where is "LCD" and "Splitter". I have seen them mentioned but they do > not show up in my Toolbox. They're part of the gb.qt.ext component. In Project Properties you can check it off and it'll appear in your toolbox (much like selecting a component in VB.) > 3. Is there a Scrollbar Control. I have used them a lot in my VB work and > desperately need them if I am to convert any of my projects. Like the two above controls, it's part of gb.qt.ext. > I wish I could be of help, instead of just asking dumb questions. I am just > a novice VB programmer. As our first novice VB programmer posting to the list, you're preparing us for what happens once Gambas gets to 1.0 and everyone hears about it. So don't hold back ;) This list isn't just me by the way, you just happened to catch me on a night when I went to bed late and then woke up early. Thanks Rob From DHoll28158 at ...87... Sun Aug 10 15:41:23 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 09:41:23 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Checking gb.qt.ext component doesn't change toolbox Message-ID: <1e9.e9b5e54.2c67a583@...87...> Rob I tried your suggestion "checking gb.qt.ext component". Nothing changed in the toolbox. Thanks Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DHoll28158 at ...87... Sun Aug 10 15:47:49 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 09:47:49 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Checking gb.qt.ext component doesn't change toolbox Message-ID: <15e.23be5d92.2c67a705@...87...> Sorry about that, I see that I have an "Extensions" button that I didn't notice before. When I click on that I see the other controls. Thanks Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fj.cruz at ...179... Sun Aug 10 21:55:52 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:55:52 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Using progressbar Message-ID: <200308102155.52145.fj.cruz@...179...> Hi all, Here comes my question: how can i use a progressbar with an application executed via EXEC[...]? Thanks. -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sun Aug 10 23:15:18 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 17:15:18 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Using progressbar In-Reply-To: <200308102155.52145.fj.cruz@...179...> References: <200308102155.52145.fj.cruz@...179...> Message-ID: <200308101715.18652.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Sunday 10 August 2003 15:55, F.J. Cruz wrote: > Here comes my question: how can i use a progressbar with an application > executed via EXEC[...]? Well, assuming the app reports current progress in some form from which you can deduce percent (e.g. a CD burn saying "354 MB of 655MB completed") in the Process_Write sub you'd need to extract the current amount, the total amount, and then set the progress bar to current/total. I don't have any example code on hand but I expect I'll have lots in a day or two. ;) Rob From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 11 00:12:43 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:12:43 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.64 Message-ID: <200308110012.43918.gambas@...2...> Hi, everybody, gambas 0.64 is out. Here is a short list of changes: - The keyword CLASS is now useless. - The database manager can deal with different database encodings. - The QUIT instruction has been implemented. - Bug fixes in the debugger. - A big bug fix in the install automake hooks of the source package about bad rights on gambas examples and app files. The pending tasks before the 1.0 is the following : For me: - Cleanup watching processes. - Let Process objects act like streams. - Splitter.Pos behaviour is a bit stupid and must be fixed. - Cleanup image routines. And for you ! ;-) - Make a rock solid new and powerful file selector (Fabien) - Make up to date component pages on the Wiki (Rob) - Update translations (translators) I'm leaving home from Aug 13 to Aug 24 : No computer and no Internet during about 12 days. Only music ! I'd like to rework the web site, and to add a "Gambas Fundation Section". And as for my job : my boss has changed its mind. Maybe it will not fire me. We will talk about that at the end of the month. So the return of holidays will be hot ! Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From rizky at ...225... Mon Aug 11 03:48:51 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:48:51 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200308110848.51085.rizky@...225...> hi, i'm new in gambas... and i wanna ask something about it: can you guys tell me how to use tableview ?? if there's some example code please attach... From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 11 09:09:37 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:09:37 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308110848.51085.rizky@...225...> References: <200308110848.51085.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308110909.37664.gambas@...2...> Le Lundi 11 Ao?t 2003 03:48, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > hi, i'm new in gambas... and i wanna ask something about it: > > can you guys tell me how to use tableview ?? > > if there's some example code please attach... > Hi, The Database example uses a TableView to display database contents. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From rizky at ...225... Mon Aug 11 09:29:53 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:29:53 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308110909.37664.gambas@...2...> References: <200308110848.51085.rizky@...225...> <200308110909.37664.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308111429.53943.rizky@...225...> On Monday 11 August 2003 14:09, Benoit Minisini wrote: > Le Lundi 11 Ao?t 2003 03:48, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > > hi, i'm new in gambas... and i wanna ask something about it: > > > > can you guys tell me how to use tableview ?? > > > > if there's some example code please attach... > > Hi, > > The Database example uses a TableView to display database contents. where is that example ? i install gambas using rpm for mandrake 9.1, but there isn't any database example... (because i also new in linux.. so i decided to install w/ the easy one) will you attach that example for me ? zip the files or may be you would prefer to give me a link that i can download it... please... From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 11 09:42:08 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:42:08 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308111429.53943.rizky@...225...> References: <200308110909.37664.gambas@...2...> <200308111429.53943.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308110942.08408.gambas@...2...> Le Lundi 11 Ao?t 2003 09:29, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > On Monday 11 August 2003 14:09, Benoit Minisini wrote: > > Le Lundi 11 Ao?t 2003 03:48, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > > > hi, i'm new in gambas... and i wanna ask something about it: > > > > > > can you guys tell me how to use tableview ?? > > > > > > if there's some example code please attach... > > > > Hi, > > > > The Database example uses a TableView to display database contents. > > where is that example ? > i install gambas using rpm for mandrake 9.1, but there isn't any database > example... > (because i also new in linux.. so i decided to install w/ the easy one) > > will you attach that example for me ? zip the files or may be you would > prefer to give me a link that i can download it... > > please... > You will find it in /opt/gambas/share/examples/Database (if gambas is installed in /opt/gambas of course). Copy this folder into your home directory, change the owner (root) to you. Then you will be able to open and run it. Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From mfirmansyah at ...219... Mon Aug 11 10:44:11 2003 From: mfirmansyah at ...219... (Iman) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:44:11 +0700 (SE Asia Standard Time) Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing Gambas Message-ID: <3F37575B.000003.01535@...226...> I'm installing gambas 0.63 on mandrake 9.1 and it's success... Can I run gambas from the KDE without typing gambas from terminal or shell command? matbe it's like a shortcut menu in windows? From rizky at ...225... Mon Aug 11 12:07:15 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:07:15 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308110942.08408.gambas@...2...> References: <200308111429.53943.rizky@...225...> <200308110942.08408.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308111707.15817.rizky@...225...> On Monday 11 August 2003 14:42, Benoit Minisini wrote: > Le Lundi 11 Ao?t 2003 09:29, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > > On Monday 11 August 2003 14:09, Benoit Minisini wrote: > > > Le Lundi 11 Ao?t 2003 03:48, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > > > > hi, i'm new in gambas... and i wanna ask something about it: > > > > > > > > can you guys tell me how to use tableview ?? > > > > > > > > if there's some example code please attach... > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > The Database example uses a TableView to display database contents. > > > > where is that example ? > > i install gambas using rpm for mandrake 9.1, but there isn't any database > > example... > > (because i also new in linux.. so i decided to install w/ the easy one) > > > > will you attach that example for me ? zip the files or may be you would > > prefer to give me a link that i can download it... > > > > please... > > You will find it in /opt/gambas/share/examples/Database (if gambas is > installed in /opt/gambas of course). > > Copy this folder into your home directory, change the owner (root) to you. > Then you will be able to open and run it. > > Regards, in the rpm that i've installed i just have that directory... but it's empty... btw, i download the source(not the rpm), i open it and i have the code... thank you... From rizky at ...225... Mon Aug 11 12:08:34 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:08:34 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing Gambas In-Reply-To: <3F37575B.000003.01535@...226...> References: <3F37575B.000003.01535@...226...> Message-ID: <200308111708.34586.rizky@...225...> On Monday 11 August 2003 15:44, Iman wrote: > I'm installing gambas 0.63 on mandrake 9.1 and it's success... > > Can I run gambas from the KDE without typing gambas from terminal or shell > command? matbe it's like a shortcut menu in windows? yes.. you can start it from the icon at: k>applications>development>Development environtments>Gambas > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From DHoll28158 at ...87... Mon Aug 11 12:34:17 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 06:34:17 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls Message-ID: <5a.2063e141.2c68cb29@...87...> 1. What format(s) is the Button picture property looking for. I tried to insert an icon and got a "bad properties" message. 2. Can a control ie: button , panel or frame. be made transparent. I read some info in the docs about setting pixels to transparent, but I am not experienced enough to do anything with that. I will need exact code that I can apply, sorry about that. 3. Is there a way to implement Hot Spots over an image. Thanks Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 11 14:10:05 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:10:05 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls In-Reply-To: <5a.2063e141.2c68cb29@...87...> References: <5a.2063e141.2c68cb29@...87...> Message-ID: <200308111410.05284.gambas@...2...> Le Lundi 11 Ao?t 2003 12:34, DHoll28158 at ...87... a ?crit : > 1. What format(s) is the Button picture property looking for. I tried to > insert an icon and got a "bad properties" message. JPEG, GIF and PNG. > > 2. Can a control ie: button , panel or frame. be made transparent. No. > I read > some info in the docs about setting pixels to transparent, but I am not > experienced enough to do anything with that. I will need exact code that I > can apply, sorry about that. > > 3. Is there a way to implement Hot Spots over an image. What is it ? > > Thanks > Dan -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Mon Aug 11 15:12:17 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:12:17 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308110942.08408.gambas@...2...> References: <200308111429.53943.rizky@...225...> <200308110942.08408.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308110912.17897.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Monday 11 August 2003 03:42, Benoit Minisini wrote: > You will find it in /opt/gambas/share/examples/Database (if gambas is > installed in /opt/gambas of course). > Copy this folder into your home directory, change the owner (root) to you. > Then you will be able to open and run it. For everyone's reference, the RPM puts the example code in /usr/share/doc/gambas-x.xx/examples. This is sort of the mandrake standard (since I'm hoping to get gambas into contrib and eventually the main distro.) Also, with fabien's new dialog I'm pretty sure you can open a project from wherever you like, which is great for the examples! Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Mon Aug 11 15:22:03 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:22:03 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing Gambas In-Reply-To: <3F37575B.000003.01535@...226...> References: <3F37575B.000003.01535@...226...> Message-ID: <200308110906.23847.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Monday 11 August 2003 04:44, Iman wrote: > I'm installing gambas 0.63 on mandrake 9.1 and it's success... > Can I run gambas from the KDE without typing gambas from terminal or shell > command? matbe it's like a shortcut menu in windows? Yeah, my RPM provides the necessary menu entries. If you have installed from source, grab the gambas-gui source RPM and one of the tarballs in it has what you need. You should find gambas under K/Applications/Development/Development Environments. (I think that should be streamlined a little but as I said, I'm following mandrake standards...) Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Mon Aug 11 15:32:25 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:32:25 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls In-Reply-To: <200308111410.05284.gambas@...2...> References: <5a.2063e141.2c68cb29@...87...> <200308111410.05284.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308110932.25508.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Monday 11 August 2003 08:10, Benoit Minisini wrote: > > 2. Can a control ie: button , panel or frame. be made transparent. > No. Any plans to support this? It seems to be the one glaring thing people notice when I show them converted vb forms (since vb labels etc. default to being transparent.) > > 3. Is there a way to implement Hot Spots over an image. > What is it ? I think he means like imagemaps on a website (e.g. the visual intro to gambas page.) You could probably do it with the X and Y parameters to the MouseDown etc. events, but that's only good when the user presses a button... no visual feedback is possible when they mouse over things. Rob From oppi at ...227... Mon Aug 11 20:09:44 2003 From: oppi at ...227... (Oppermann) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:09:44 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Signal #11 Message-ID: <200308112009.44473.oppi@...227...> Hi all, I used MDK 9.1 and Gambas 0.63 (tar.gz file) no problems. I just downloaded the new 0.64 and get the following error message when executing any example file: "The program stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11, send bug report....." I'm back to 0.63, all fine again. thanx Horst p.s. Keep on developing gambas, I'm a bloody beginner, but it's nice to the the progress of this program and I like it very much. From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 11 22:30:55 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:30:55 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308110912.17897.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308110942.08408.gambas@...2...> <200308110912.17897.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308112130.42239.gambas@...2...> Le Lundi 11 Ao?t 2003 15:12, Rob a ?crit : > On Monday 11 August 2003 03:42, Benoit Minisini wrote: > > You will find it in /opt/gambas/share/examples/Database (if gambas is > > installed in /opt/gambas of course). > > Copy this folder into your home directory, change the owner (root) to > > you. Then you will be able to open and run it. > > For everyone's reference, the RPM puts the example code in > /usr/share/doc/gambas-x.xx/examples. This is sort of the mandrake standard > (since I'm hoping to get gambas into contrib and eventually the main > distro.) > You should keep the examples in their place, so that the IDE can find them. Examples are nothing to do in a "doc" directory. "Mandrake standards" are nice, but sometimes stupid. Everything related to an application in one directory => the old way, the best way :-) Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Mon Aug 11 22:58:56 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:58:56 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308112130.42239.gambas@...2...> References: <200308110912.17897.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308112130.42239.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308111657.39370.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Monday 11 August 2003 16:30, Benoit Minisini wrote: > You should keep the examples in their place, so that the IDE can find them. > Examples are nothing to do in a "doc" directory. Actually, if you notice, I don't package any files in /opt at all. /opt itself is deprecated in Mandrake.... even KDE isn't placed there anymore. I've always been against the /opt thing, ever since they started doing it in Solarix years ago ;) > "Mandrake standards" are nice, but sometimes stupid. Everything related to > an application in one directory => the old way, the best way :-) see, there we disagree ;) I am a standards-nazi, when it comes to my own rpms, because eventually I would like to see all desktop Linuxes act essentially the same way and have RPM's from one work on the others. /opt is great for stuff that doesn't get installed with the OS and may break things, but the intent with contrib RPM's is that if they get used a lot, they get moved into the main distro.... Do "for f in /opt/*; do rpm -q --whatprovides $f; done" to see what I mean about things not getting packaged there... I bet everything there is something you have compiled from source. Rob From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 11 22:45:20 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:45:20 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 0.64a Message-ID: <200308112245.20785.gambas@...2...> Hi, I have just downloaded a patched version of gambas 0.64 that should solve some problems. Please forget the previous 0.64 and try this one. Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From karl.reinl at ...9... Mon Aug 11 23:44:24 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:44:24 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64 Message-ID: <3F380E38.5000003@...9...> SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x. reports first time since gambas-0.58: for making gambas-0.64 make the 3 and it works on gentoo the same. But see my attached Test projekt it runs well under SuSE 7.2 on gentoo the Buttons don't work. Since gambas-0.30 I test every Version also with this project. If you want you can take it to the examples. goog luck for your hot end of a hot europien summer. But remember: Tout ou rien , mais jamais la moitie amicalement Charlie -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Test.tar.gz Type: application/x-tar Size: 4872 bytes Desc: not available URL: From karl.reinl at ...9... Tue Aug 12 00:33:24 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:33:24 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a Message-ID: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x. reports : for making gambas-0.64a make the 3 and it works on gentoo the same. But see my attached Test projekt (last mail) it runs well under SuSE 7.2 on gentoo the Buttons don't work. Same with gambas-0.64a Since gambas-0.30 I test every Version also with this project. If you want you can take it to the examples. amicalement Charlie From rizky at ...225... Tue Aug 12 03:56:29 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:56:29 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Accessing control in different form In-Reply-To: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> References: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> Message-ID: <200308120856.29332.rizky@...225...> Hi, i'm trying gambas with 2 forms. the first form (say Fmain) showmodal the second form (say Fsecond). In Fmain there is a textbox and when a button in Fsecond pressed the Fsecond will close and the textbox.text in Fmain will have a words "hello world". how do i do like that in gambas ?? when in VB, the example like that above could be accessed by the following code: # here is the code in Fsecond: Private Sub Button1_Click() Fmain.textbox1.text="xx" Unload Me end sub yeah.. that example just works in VB... not in gambas... can anyone help ? From rizky at ...225... Tue Aug 12 05:21:43 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:21:43 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Resize In-Reply-To: <200308120856.29332.rizky@...225...> References: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> <200308120856.29332.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308121021.43091.rizky@...225...> When I open new project there is a dialog that asked where the project is... I wonder how to create the tree object in the left side can be resizeable with the file list object.. Yeah... the width of the tree object can be so wide by draging in the middle of those two objects... will you guys tell me how to do it ?? From rizky at ...225... Tue Aug 12 05:29:21 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:29:21 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308110912.17897.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308110942.08408.gambas@...2...> <200308110912.17897.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308121029.21443.rizky@...225...> On Monday 11 August 2003 20:12, Rob wrote: > On Monday 11 August 2003 03:42, Benoit Minisini wrote: > > You will find it in /opt/gambas/share/examples/Database (if gambas is > > installed in /opt/gambas of course). > > Copy this folder into your home directory, change the owner (root) to > > you. Then you will be able to open and run it. > > For everyone's reference, the RPM puts the example code in > /usr/share/doc/gambas-x.xx/examples. This is sort of the mandrake standard > (since I'm hoping to get gambas into contrib and eventually the main > distro.) > > Also, with fabien's new dialog I'm pretty sure you can open a project from > wherever you like, which is great for the examples! the example that i got for tableview can not edit the data cell in it.. how do i edit the data in that cell ?? > > Rob > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From DHoll28158 at ...87... Tue Aug 12 05:16:30 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:16:30 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls Message-ID: <1a8.181e61d1.2c69b60e@...87...> In a message dated 8/11/2003 7:45:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... writes: > On Monday 11 August 2003 08:10, Benoit Minisini wrote: > >>2. Can a control ie: button , panel or frame. be made transparent. > >No. > > Any plans to support this? It seems to be the one glaring thing people > notice > when I show them converted vb forms (since vb labels etc. default to being > transparent.) > > >>3. Is there a way to implement Hot Spots over an image. > >What is it ? > > I think he means like imagemaps on a website (e.g. the visual intro to > gambas > page.) You could probably do it with the X and Y parameters to the > MouseDown > etc. events, but that's only good when the user presses a button... no > visual > feedback is possible when they mouse over things. > > Rob > > A hot Spot is certain areas on a form or image that triggers the mouse-over event. This could be used to bring up info messages or other controls. Usually the cursor icon changes to indicate that a mouse click will trigger a function. I have used transparent labels to do this. It is a powerful tool for making an application easier to use. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Tue Aug 12 05:35:05 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:35:05 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Accessing control in different form In-Reply-To: <200308120856.29332.rizky@...225...> References: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> <200308120856.29332.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308112335.05348.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Oops, sorry to have led you astray, I just tried that and it doesn't work. It says "unknown symbol 'textbox1' in class 'fmain'" which makes sense because textbox1 isn't a symbol, it's a child. But going me.parent!textbox1.text = "xx" gets you "Not an array". me.parent.children!textbox1.text = "xx" gets "unknown symbol 'children' in class 'control'". dim x as object x = me.parent x.children!textbox1.text = "xx" gets you "Not an array" again. Changing that last line to x.children("textbox1").text = "xx" gives you "Expected .ContainerChildren, got String instead". And you can loop through x.children using for each, but there doesn't seem to be any way to find out each child's name! Benoit, how would you do this? Updating fields on one form from another is an everyday occurrence in VB. All of the above examples fail the same way whether "Form controls are public" is set or not.... Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Tue Aug 12 04:59:16 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:59:16 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Accessing control in different form In-Reply-To: <200308120856.29332.rizky@...225...> References: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> <200308120856.29332.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308112259.16989.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Monday 11 August 2003 21:56, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > when in VB, the example like that above could be accessed by the following > code: > Fmain.textbox1.text="xx" Yeah, while Benoit finally gave in to us recovering VB users and made a "public form controls" option, doing what you describe will still generate an error because "Fmain" refers to the class, not the instance. To make a control accessible with that syntax, you'd need to make it static. This is easy to do if you create the control in code, but I don't know how to make it happen using the form designer. However, you SHOULD be able to do the following, assuming you opened FSecond from FMain: ME.Parent.textbox1.text = "xx" See if that works... I had someone else ask me a similar question offline and I was stumped, but off the top of my head it seems like this should work.... Rob From rizky at ...225... Tue Aug 12 06:49:48 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:49:48 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308121029.21443.rizky@...225...> References: <200308110912.17897.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308121029.21443.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308121149.48465.rizky@...225...> > > For everyone's reference, the RPM puts the example code in > > /usr/share/doc/gambas-x.xx/examples. This is sort of the mandrake > > standard (since I'm hoping to get gambas into contrib and eventually the > > main distro.) yeah.. w/ the rpm the directory is correctly right there... but some of examples direktory are empty... so the example in the rpm package isn't complete... From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 10:21:10 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:21:10 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Accessing control in different form In-Reply-To: <200308112335.05348.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> <200308120856.29332.rizky@...225...> <200308112335.05348.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308121021.10555.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 05:35, Rob a ?crit : > Oops, sorry to have led you astray, I just tried that and it doesn't work. > > It says "unknown symbol 'textbox1' in class 'fmain'" which makes sense > because textbox1 isn't a symbol, it's a child. > > But going me.parent!textbox1.text = "xx" gets you "Not an array". > > me.parent.children!textbox1.text = "xx" gets "unknown symbol 'children' in > class 'control'". > > dim x as object > x = me.parent > x.children!textbox1.text = "xx" > > gets you "Not an array" again. > > Changing that last line to x.children("textbox1").text = "xx" gives you > "Expected .ContainerChildren, got String instead". > > And you can loop through x.children using for each, but there doesn't seem > to be any way to find out each child's name! > > Benoit, how would you do this? Updating fields on one form from another is > an everyday occurrence in VB. All of the above examples fail the same way > whether "Form controls are public" is set or not.... > > Rob > Contrary to VB, Gambas classes can not refer to an automatically instanciated object. There are many solutions to this problem: 1?) When you tell gambas that a form is the startup class, then it creates a instance of this form automatically and shows it. The problem is that I didn't make a property that allow to get a reference to this form. I may make this property in a next version. => something like that: FMain.Form.Textbox1.Text = "hello" 2?) You can let the FMain instance pass its reference to FSecond. in FMain: hSecond = NEW FSecond(ME) hSecond.ShowModal in FSecond: PRIVATE $hForm AS Form PUBLIC SUB _new(hForm AS Form) $hForm = hForm END PUBLIC SUB Button1_Click() $hForm.textbox1.text="xx" ME.Close END 3?) Let the dialog return its data to its caller by using static variables. in FMain: if FSecond.Dialog() THEN RETURN TextBox1.Text = FSecond.Result in FSecond: STATIC PUBLIC Result AS String PUBLIC SUB btnOK_Click() Result = "xx" ME.Close END PUBLIC SUB btnCancel_Click() ME.Close(TRUE) END Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 10:06:24 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:06:24 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a In-Reply-To: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> References: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> Message-ID: <200308121006.24296.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 00:33, Charlie a ?crit : > SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x. reports : > > for making gambas-0.64a > > make the 3 and it works > > on gentoo the same. > > But see my attached Test projekt (last mail) it runs well under SuSE 7.2 > on gentoo the Buttons don't work. > Same with gambas-0.64a > Since gambas-0.30 I test every Version also with this project. > If you want you can take it to the examples. > > amicalement > Charlie > You example will never work anymore, because the behaviour of WAIT has changed. Now, during a WAIT, only redraw events are processed. The keyboard and mouse events are not processed anymore. So your button never receveive the Click event. This behaviour avoids many possible infinite recursion, like it did in VB. Now, you must write any animation by using a Timer, and not WAIT anymore. P.S. Thanks for being a good tester :-) Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 10:00:57 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:00:57 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use TableView In-Reply-To: <200308111657.39370.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308112130.42239.gambas@...2...> <200308111657.39370.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308121000.57212.gambas@...2...> Le Lundi 11 Ao?t 2003 22:58, Rob a ?crit : > On Monday 11 August 2003 16:30, Benoit Minisini wrote: > > You should keep the examples in their place, so that the IDE can find > > them. Examples are nothing to do in a "doc" directory. > > Actually, if you notice, I don't package any files in /opt at all. /opt > itself is deprecated in Mandrake.... even KDE isn't placed there anymore. > > I've always been against the /opt thing, ever since they started doing it > in Solarix years ago ;) I admit choosing /opt/gambas as default is not a good idea. I should use /usr/local/gambas. But while gambas is in beta version, it is not dramatic. > > > "Mandrake standards" are nice, but sometimes stupid. Everything related > > to an application in one directory => the old way, the best way :-) > > see, there we disagree ;) I am a standards-nazi, when it comes to my own > rpms, because eventually I would like to see all desktop Linuxes act > essentially the same way and have RPM's from one work on the others. /opt > is great for stuff that doesn't get installed with the OS and may break > things, but the intent with contrib RPM's is that if they get used a lot, > they get moved into the main distro.... How could you use a RPM for system X on system Y at the moment, as dependencies are strings that always differ ? For example, Mandrake adds "mdk" everywhere, so I imagine that a RPM for Redhat will yell. So put everything is /usr/local/gambas, or /usr/gambas, or somewhere else, but please keep the same structure. Otherwise, some things will not work. > > Do "for f in /opt/*; do rpm -q --whatprovides $f; done" to see what I mean > about things not getting packaged there... I bet everything there is > something you have compiled from source. > > Rob > -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 10:09:14 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:09:14 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls In-Reply-To: <1a8.181e61d1.2c69b60e@...87...> References: <1a8.181e61d1.2c69b60e@...87...> Message-ID: <200308121009.14758.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 05:16, DHoll28158 at ...87... a ?crit : > In a message dated 8/11/2003 7:45:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... writes: > > On Monday 11 August 2003 08:10, Benoit Minisini wrote: > > >>2. Can a control ie: button , panel or frame. be made transparent. > > > > > >No. > > > > Any plans to support this? It seems to be the one glaring thing people > > notice > > when I show them converted vb forms (since vb labels etc. default to > > being transparent.) > > > > >>3. Is there a way to implement Hot Spots over an image. > > > > > >What is it ? > > > > I think he means like imagemaps on a website (e.g. the visual intro to > > gambas > > page.) You could probably do it with the X and Y parameters to the > > MouseDown > > etc. events, but that's only good when the user presses a button... no > > visual > > feedback is possible when they mouse over things. > > > > Rob > > A hot Spot is certain areas on a form or image that triggers the mouse-over > event. > This could be used to bring up info messages or other controls. Usually the > cursor icon changes to indicate that a mouse click will trigger a function. > I have used transparent labels to do this. It is a powerful tool for making > an application easier to use. > > Dan You can use the MouseMove event. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From DHoll28158 at ...87... Tue Aug 12 12:11:27 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 06:11:27 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls Message-ID: <140.170eead1.2c6a174f@...87...> In a message dated 8/12/2003 1:51:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gambas at ...2... writes: > Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 05:16, DHoll28158 at ...87... a ?crit : > >In a message dated 8/11/2003 7:45:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > >sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... writes: > >>On Monday 11 August 2003 08:10, Benoit Minisini wrote: > >>>>2. Can a control ie: button , panel or frame. be made transparent. > >>> > >>>No. > >> > >>Any plans to support this? It seems to be the one glaring thing people > >>notice > >>when I show them converted vb forms (since vb labels etc. default to > >>being transparent.) > >> > >>>>3. Is there a way to implement Hot Spots over an image. > >>> > >>>What is it ? > >> > >>I think he means like imagemaps on a website (e.g. the visual intro to > >>gambas > >>page.) You could probably do it with the X and Y parameters to the > >>MouseDown > >>etc. events, but that's only good when the user presses a button... no > >>visual > >>feedback is possible when they mouse over things. > >> > >>Rob > > > >A hot Spot is certain areas on a form or image that triggers the mouse-over > >event. > >This could be used to bring up info messages or other controls. Usually the > >cursor icon changes to indicate that a mouse click will trigger a function. > >I have used transparent labels to do this. It is a powerful tool for making > >an application easier to use. > > > >Dan > > You can use the MouseMove event. > > If I have an image that covers the entire display and I only want 5 very small rectangular areas, located at various places on the image to be Hot Spots. How would that be accomplished. I guess I could hard code all the co-ords into an CASE statement, but a transparent lable would be a lot easier to make adjustments later. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 12:51:07 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:51:07 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls In-Reply-To: <200308121009.14758.gambas@...2...> References: <1a8.181e61d1.2c69b60e@...87...> <200308121009.14758.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308121251.07953.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 10:09, Benoit Minisini a ?crit : > Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 05:16, DHoll28158 at ...87... a ?crit : > > In a message dated 8/11/2003 7:45:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... writes: > > > On Monday 11 August 2003 08:10, Benoit Minisini wrote: > > > >>2. Can a control ie: button , panel or frame. be made transparent. > > > > > > > >No. > > > > > > Any plans to support this? It seems to be the one glaring thing people > > > notice > > > when I show them converted vb forms (since vb labels etc. default to > > > being transparent.) > > > > > > >>3. Is there a way to implement Hot Spots over an image. > > > > > > > >What is it ? > > > > > > I think he means like imagemaps on a website (e.g. the visual intro to > > > gambas > > > page.) You could probably do it with the X and Y parameters to the > > > MouseDown > > > etc. events, but that's only good when the user presses a button... no > > > visual > > > feedback is possible when they mouse over things. > > > > > > Rob > > > > A hot Spot is certain areas on a form or image that triggers the > > mouse-over event. > > This could be used to bring up info messages or other controls. Usually > > the cursor icon changes to indicate that a mouse click will trigger a > > function. I have used transparent labels to do this. It is a powerful > > tool for making an application easier to use. > > > > Dan > > You can use the MouseMove event. ...in a DrawingArea with the Tracking property set to true. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 12:57:41 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:57:41 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls In-Reply-To: <140.170eead1.2c6a174f@...87...> References: <140.170eead1.2c6a174f@...87...> Message-ID: <200308121257.41239.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 12:11, DHoll28158 at ...87... a ?crit : > In a message dated 8/12/2003 1:51:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > gambas at ...2... writes: > > Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 05:16, DHoll28158 at ...87... a ?crit : > > >In a message dated 8/11/2003 7:45:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > >sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... writes: > > >>On Monday 11 August 2003 08:10, Benoit Minisini wrote: > > >>>>2. Can a control ie: button , panel or frame. be made transparent. > > >>> > > >>>No. > > >> > > >>Any plans to support this? It seems to be the one glaring thing people > > >>notice > > >>when I show them converted vb forms (since vb labels etc. default to > > >>being transparent.) > > >> > > >>>>3. Is there a way to implement Hot Spots over an image. > > >>> > > >>>What is it ? > > >> > > >>I think he means like imagemaps on a website (e.g. the visual intro to > > >>gambas > > >>page.) You could probably do it with the X and Y parameters to the > > >>MouseDown > > >>etc. events, but that's only good when the user presses a button... no > > >>visual > > >>feedback is possible when they mouse over things. > > >> > > >>Rob > > > > > >A hot Spot is certain areas on a form or image that triggers the > > > mouse-over event. > > >This could be used to bring up info messages or other controls. Usually > > > the cursor icon changes to indicate that a mouse click will trigger a > > > function. I have used transparent labels to do this. It is a powerful > > > tool for making an application easier to use. > > > > > >Dan > > > > You can use the MouseMove event. > > If I have an image that covers the entire display and I only want 5 very > small rectangular areas, located at various places on the image to be Hot > Spots. How would that be accomplished. > > I guess I could hard code all the co-ords into an CASE statement, but a > transparent lable would be a lot easier to make adjustments later. > > Dan Hmmm... QWidget cannot be transparent, so transparent labels is too much work. I could make a "virtual" widget that has just coordinates, and that raises events when the mouse moves over it. A lot of work too... Otherwise, controls have Enter and Leave events, which helps for displaying contextual help, but not in your case. I think you have to use elbow grease :-) Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From eng_ak at ...200... Tue Aug 12 14:15:28 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:15:28 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] file copy Message-ID: <3F38DA60.9060008@...200...> hi how can I copy a file to /tmp from within gambas? From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 14:43:03 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:43:03 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] file copy In-Reply-To: <3F38DA60.9060008@...200...> References: <3F38DA60.9060008@...200...> Message-ID: <200308121443.03196.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 14:15, Ahmad Kamal a ?crit : > hi > > how can I copy a file to /tmp from within gambas? > > Hi, Ahmad COPY src TO dst If you need a temporary file, use the Temp$() function. sTemp = Temp$() COPY src to sTemp ... KILL sTemp Temporary files are automatically removed at the end of the program. Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From eng_ak at ...200... Tue Aug 12 14:45:07 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:45:07 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] file copy In-Reply-To: <200308121443.03196.gambas@...2...> References: <3F38DA60.9060008@...200...> <200308121443.03196.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <3F38E153.1060901@...200...> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DHoll28158 at ...87... Tue Aug 12 14:08:24 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:08:24 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls Message-ID: <1dd.f2a595a.2c6a32b8@...87...> Thanks I will try that. How about putting the "transparent" property in the wish list. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Tue Aug 12 15:14:27 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:14:27 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie needs help with controls In-Reply-To: <200308121257.41239.gambas@...2...> References: <140.170eead1.2c6a174f@...87...> <200308121257.41239.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308120914.27094.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Tuesday 12 August 2003 06:57, Benoit Minisini wrote: > Hmmm... QWidget cannot be transparent, so transparent labels is too much > work. What about giving it a background that's just a completely transparent pixmap? ;) Rob From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 15:05:08 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:05:08 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] file copy In-Reply-To: <3F38E153.1060901@...200...> References: <3F38DA60.9060008@...200...> <200308121443.03196.gambas@...2...> <3F38E153.1060901@...200...> Message-ID: <200308121505.08588.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 14:45, Ahmad Kamal a ?crit : > > > > content="text/html;charset=windows-1256"> > > > > how will GB know which files are temp or not?!
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> > > Removed temporary files are /tmp/gambas./*.tmp. Temp$() returns a file name matching this pattern. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Tue Aug 12 16:29:54 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:29:54 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Accessing control in different form In-Reply-To: <200308121021.10555.gambas@...2...> References: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> <200308112335.05348.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308121021.10555.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308121029.54379.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:21, Benoit Minisini wrote: > Contrary to VB, Gambas classes can not refer to an automatically > instanciated object. They can, though. If you put this into FSecond: dim x as object dim y as object x = me.parent for each y in x.children y.hide next it will hide all the controls on FMain. It's just impossible to figure out which is which or refer to them directly as x.WidgetName. Adding a Name property to every widget would at least let us write things like function GetParentWidget(wid as String) as Object dim x as object dim y as object x = me.parent for each y in x.children if y.name = wid then return y next end Rob From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 16:25:37 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:25:37 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas Message-ID: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> Gambas 0.64a compiles on SuSE 8.2, but some users cannot execute any project as the interpreter crashes. It is very strange, because its seems that everything works on some other SuSE 8.2 users. Can SuSE 8.2 users attract attention on this mailing-list by telling : - Which gambas version they compiled. - The options they passed to ./configure. - If everything works, or if the interpter crashes. - If They have a freshly installed SuSE 8.2 or if they made an update, or if they have modified their system heavily. Best regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From columbo at ...228... Tue Aug 12 21:13:12 2003 From: columbo at ...228... (columbo) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:13:12 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas In-Reply-To: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> References: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308121513.12732.columbo@...228...> On Tuesday 12 August 2003 10:25 am, Benoit Minisini wrote: > Can SuSE 8.2 users attract attention on this mailing-list by telling : > - Which gambas version they compiled. gambas 0.64a compiled against distribution stock gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) > - The options they passed to ./configure. ./configure --disable-mysql-driver > - If everything works, or if the interpter crashes. The interpeter crashes with "The program stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11, send bug report....." message > - If They have a freshly installed SuSE 8.2 or if they made an update, or > if they have modified their system heavily. Version 2.4.20-96 kernel updated from the stock distribution kernel 2.4.20-39 I'm running on an 700 MHz Intel PIII Coppermine with 384 megs ram and an nVidia RIVA TNT2 Model 64 card using nVidia's driver 1.0-4363 with 3D enabled Let me know if you require more information and thanks! :) -- Lead me not into temptation, I can find it myself. ---------------------------------------------------------------- SuSE 8.2 - KDE 3.1.3 From kphelan at ...229... Tue Aug 12 21:16:17 2003 From: kphelan at ...229... (Ken Phelan) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:16:17 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas In-Reply-To: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> References: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308121516.17709.kphelan@...229...> On Tuesday 12 August 2003 10:25 am, Benoit Minisini wrote: > Can SuSE 8.2 users attract attention on this mailing-list by telling : > - Which gambas version they compiled. gambas 0.64a compiled against distribution stock gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) > - The options they passed to ./configure. ./configure --disable-mysql-driver > - If everything works, or if the interpter crashes. The interpeter crashes with "The program stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11, send bug report....." message > - If They have a freshly installed SuSE 8.2 or if they made an update, or > if they have modified their system heavily. Version 2.4.20-96 kernel updated from the stock distribution kernel 2.4.20-39 I'm running on an 700 MHz Intel PIII Coppermine with 384 megs ram and an nVidia RIVA TNT2 Model 64 card using nVidia's driver 1.0-4363 with 3D enabled Let me know if you require more information and thanks! :) -- Lead me not into temptation, I can find it myself. ---------------------------------------------------------------- SuSE 8.2 - KDE 3.1.3 From karl.reinl at ...9... Tue Aug 12 19:48:26 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:48:26 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a References: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> <200308121006.24296.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <3F39286A.7020809@...9...> Benoit Minisini schrieb: >You example will never work anymore, because the behaviour of WAIT has >changed. > >Now, during a WAIT, only redraw events are processed. The keyboard and mouse >events are not processed anymore. So your button never receveive the Click >event. > >This behaviour avoids many possible infinite recursion, like it did in VB. > >Now, you must write any animation by using a Timer, and not WAIT anymore. > >P.S. Thanks for being a good tester :-) > >Regards, > > > Salut Beno?t, Yes now I remember, read it at this time. now my question Why works it on my SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5, gcc 2.95.x and gambas-0.64a ????? The source-code came from this box. Charlie From eng_ak at ...200... Tue Aug 12 22:31:10 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:31:10 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] sig 11? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030812232918.00b9d508@...201...> Hi I just installed 0.64a on RedHat8, but when I open any example it gives "Program exited with signal 11"!!! Although, they all work if I launch them from a terminal! Everything worked with the previous 0.62! Snake development is delayed :( From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 23:32:29 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:32:29 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a In-Reply-To: <3F39286A.7020809@...9...> References: <3F3819B4.4090701@...9...> <200308121006.24296.gambas@...2...> <3F39286A.7020809@...9...> Message-ID: <200308122332.29426.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 19:48, Charlie a ?crit : > Benoit Minisini schrieb: > >You example will never work anymore, because the behaviour of WAIT has > >changed. > > > >Now, during a WAIT, only redraw events are processed. The keyboard and > > mouse events are not processed anymore. So your button never receveive > > the Click event. > > > >This behaviour avoids many possible infinite recursion, like it did in VB. > > > >Now, you must write any animation by using a Timer, and not WAIT anymore. > > > >P.S. Thanks for being a good tester :-) > > > >Regards, > > Salut Beno?t, > > Yes now I remember, read it at this time. > > now my question > Why works it on my SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5, gcc 2.95.x and > gambas-0.64a ????? > The source-code came from this box. > > Charlie > Ha Ha ! Because this behaviour depends on a QT feature that exists only on QT 3.1. The support of qt 3.0 is temporary. I think gambas 1.0 will need QT 3.1 at least ! Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 12 23:38:09 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:38:09 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] sig 11? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030812232918.00b9d508@...201...> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030812232918.00b9d508@...201...> Message-ID: <200308122338.09562.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 12 Ao?t 2003 22:31, Ahmad Kamal a ?crit : > Hi > I just installed 0.64a on RedHat8, but when I open any example it gives > "Program exited with signal 11"!!! Although, they all work if I launch them > from a terminal! > > Everything worked with the previous 0.62! Snake development is delayed :( Argh, it's a pity, I go on holidays tomorrow until Aug 25. How do you exactly launch examples from terminal ? Tell me where it crashes with gdb, it will help : $ cd ..../MyExample $ gdb gbx ... (gdb) set args -p (gdb) run ... segfault ? -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From secmon at ...169... Wed Aug 13 08:14:00 2003 From: secmon at ...169... (Henry Ismaili) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:14:00 +1000 Subject: [Gambas-user] Tableview Message-ID: <200308131614.00261.secmon@...169...> When does the EVENT _DATA get triggered ? does it happen whenever you make a change to the columns & rows of the tableview ? i'm trying to change the column headers after i have inserted data bound to a mysql db, but if i try to change the column headers it gives me "unkown field error" regards, Henry. From radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... Wed Aug 13 10:08:15 2003 From: radoslav.dejanovic at ...116... (Radoslav Dejanovic) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:08:15 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas In-Reply-To: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> References: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308131008.15933.radoslav.dejanovic@...116...> On Tuesday 12 August 2003 04:25 pm, Benoit Minisini wrote: > Can SuSE 8.2 users attract attention on this mailing-list by telling : > - Which gambas version they compiled. 0.64a > - The options they passed to ./configure. no options. If I add --disable-preloading, it won't make install > - If everything works, or if the interpter crashes. I can fire up Gambas, do everything, but as soon as I press F5 to run something, it raises signal 11 and dies. Looks like interpreter to me. > - If They have a freshly installed SuSE 8.2 or if they made an update, or > if they have modified their system heavily. Up to date patched SuSE, no modifications of my own. -- Radoslav Dejanovi?, founder and director Operacijski sustavi d.o.o. http://www.opsus.hr From amelgar at ...207... Tue Aug 12 14:34:25 2003 From: amelgar at ...207... (L Alberto Melgar Garcia) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:34:25 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: linux and ...the lack of Visual Basic...and the comunity of devX.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F38DED1.2070400@...207...> Russell Jones escribi?: > By the project author's own admission, Gambas is not code-compatible > with VB. Gambas is an interesting project; however, it's not going to > attract many VB programmers unless you can directly import most or all > of their existing code. You might be able to gain a few developers > switching to Linux though, and I'm perfectly willing to let you write an > article on Gambas if you like--introducing it to the DevX programming > community and probably to some open source proponents as well. Let me > know if you're interested in that. Anything you write should definitely > show code examples--and should definitely compare those examples to > equivalent Visual Basic code. > > Thanks for bringing this to my attention, > Russell Jones, > Executive Editor, > DevX.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Luis Alberto Melgar Garcia [mailto:amelgar at ...207...] > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:54 AM > To: Russell Jones > Subject: linux and ...the lack of Visual Basic > > > the lack of Visual Basic or any language like it. > > ... > > not anymore: > > gambas.sourceforge.net > > > > Sorry, but I am a gambas begeaner and my english is too bad to write an article, (even a mail like this one :) )...but maybe someone at the gambas list would like do it ;) From DHoll28158 at ...87... Wed Aug 13 12:21:42 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 06:21:42 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Picture property grammer error Message-ID: <122.2547d19d.2c6b6b36@...87...> When trying to insert a picture into the picture property of the icon control, if the picture is not found the message dialog says "Cannot found this file". That needs to be either "Cannot find this file" or "File not found" Regards Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kphelan at ...229... Wed Aug 13 14:18:33 2003 From: kphelan at ...229... (Ken Phelan) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:18:33 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas In-Reply-To: <200308121513.12732.columbo@...228...> References: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> <200308121513.12732.columbo@...228...> Message-ID: <200308130818.34023.kphelan@...229...> On Tuesday 12 August 2003 03:13 pm, columbo wrote: Ooopps. Sorry for this duplicate. I accidently sent it with the wrong identity. I'm surprised that it actually went through considering that this identity is not a member of the list. From eng_ak at ...200... Wed Aug 13 16:03:59 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:03:59 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] sig 11? In-Reply-To: <200308122338.09562.gambas@...2...> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030812232918.00b9d508@...201...> <200308122338.09562.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <3F3A454F.2070804@...200...> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 13 16:38:41 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:38:41 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] playing sounds: a stopgap measure Message-ID: <200308131038.41987.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> I haven't encapsulated this into a gambas library yet, but the following perl code, when run on a machine with perl-SDL installed (hint: if you have frozen bubble installed, and it's working, you have perl-SDL) allows you to load up to 8 samples and play them all near-simultaneously over a Gambas shell command. Latency isn't TOO bad, certainly much better than sparking "play" for each sample. Usage: load 1 /path/to/my/file.wav play 1 load 2 /path/to/another/file.wav play 2 play 1 etc.... (perl code follows) #!/usr/bin/perl use SDL; use SDL::Sound; use SDL::Mixer; my $mix = new SDL::Mixer; my @sound; while (my $cmd = <>) { if ($cmd =~ /^load\s+(\d)\s+(.+)/i) { my $slot = $1; my $file = $2; $sound[$slot] = new SDL::Sound($file) or die $@; print STDERR "loaded $file into $slot\n"; } elsif ($cmd =~ /^play\s+(\d)/) { my $slot = $1; $mix->play_channel($slot, $sound[$slot], 0); } } From newsletters at ...232... Wed Aug 13 17:21:48 2003 From: newsletters at ...232... (Willi Mann) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:21:48 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] No way to compile on mixed Debian system Message-ID: <3F3A578C.20409@...232...> Hi! My configuration is: Default GNU Compilers version: 2.95.4 Alternatives 3.2 and 3.3 (unstable) qt and kde libs (unstable) ./configure --disable-db-component 1) Standard version: 2.95.4 Compile fails in Phase make install: make[2]: Entering directory `/home/willi/software/gambas/gambas-0.64a' Making symbolic links in /usr/bin... Installing the development environment... Compiling gambas... OK Compiling gambas-database-manager... OK Compiling Util... OK Creating the library info files... /opt/gambas/lib/info/gb.info /opt/gambas/lib/info/gb.eval.info /opt/gambas/lib/info/gb.example.info /opt/gambas/lib/info/gb.db.info /opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.editor.la: /opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.editor.so.0: undefined symbol: setResolution__12QPaintDevicei make[2]: *** [install-exec-local] Fehler 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/willi/software/gambas/gambas-0.64a' 2) Alternative Compiler selected by environment vars: CC=gcc-3.2 CPP=gcc-3.2 CXX=g++-3.2 Compiling fails because the configure script doesn't detect important C header files (malloc.h, stdlib.h, stdio.h...) From config.log configure:1735: checking for ANSI C header files configure:1748: gcc-3.2 conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/3.2.3/../../../crt1.o(.text+0x18): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `main' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure: failed program was: #line 1740 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #include #include #include #include configure:1839: checking for sys/wait.h that is POSIX.1 compatible configure:1860: gcc-3.2 -c -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:1884: checking for fcntl.h configure:1894: gcc-3.2 conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/3.2.3/../../../crt1.o(.text+0x18): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `main' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure: failed program was: #line 1889 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #include configure:1884: checking for malloc.h configure:1894: gcc-3.2 conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/3.2.3/../../../crt1.o(.text+0x18): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `main' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure: failed program was: #line 1889 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #include Seems that gcc-3.2 insists on existing int main() in the conftest.cs. Don't have any idea how to fix that. I'm not familiar with auto(conf|make|header). 3) CC=gcc-3.3 CPP=gcc-3.3 CXX=g++-3.3 Is refused by configure script. (Compiler doesn't work) Any idea how to get gambas properly compiled? I hope someone makes an official Debian package, that would really simplifiy gambas installation for Debian users. Thanks in advance for all answers Willi Mann From kannangn at ...154... Wed Aug 13 17:54:34 2003 From: kannangn at ...154... (Kannan S) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:54:34 +0500 (IST) Subject: [Gambas-user] Congratulations Message-ID: <1060788274.3f3a5832e7b63@...158...> Hi all, Current issue of "Linux for you" magazine in India included Gambas in their list of applications. Congratulations to Benoit, Rob and the great team Regards R S Kannan ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 13 19:35:46 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:35:46 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] SoundHack gambas library - try it out Message-ID: <200308131335.46660.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> OK, I took that script I posted earlier and embedded it in a Gambas library. You can grab it at http://www.kudla.org/index.php?wl_mode=more&wl_eid=30 Running it will give you a demo form where you can load and trigger up to 4 different samples. (You can use 0 through 7 as your slots, I think. Sorry, I don't have error checking in there presently.) Once again, you need perl-SDL installed but as long as you have a working Frozen Bubble installation you should be good. If some of you guys who have expressed interest in game writing could try this out and let me know your problems, I'd appreciate it. Remember that this is just a hacky temporary measure for dealing with sound until after 1.0 when the concept of a proper SDL component can be revisited. Rob From neil at ...233... Wed Aug 13 23:11:15 2003 From: neil at ...233... (neil lewis) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:11:15 +0000 Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing on SuSE 8.1 - segmentation fault Message-ID: <3F3AA973.8030209@...233...> I'm trying to compile/install Gambas 0.64a on a SuSE 8.1 system. The system is fully patched with all SuSE updates. I have some other non-SuSE apps installed, but have made no changes to system libraries etc. Previously, I found tha last few versions would compile okay, but stop with an error when installing. I have now compiled with --disable-preloading as suggested and the compile/install seems fine, but Gambas won't start. When I try to run it from a Konsole, it reports simply "segmentation fault" and stops. Any thoughts? Neil Lewis. From mike_keehan at ...43... Wed Aug 13 23:09:39 2003 From: mike_keehan at ...43... (Mike Keehan) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: sig 11? Message-ID: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> I found that I had to install Gambas into a clean directory. Installing over a previous version left some old libraries in the lib directory that caused the Sig 11. Just renamed /opt/gambas and re-installed worked for me. Another problem I found was that the editor component in one of my existing projects was being reported as "Project.RefreshLibrary.1650: #12: Not an object". I had to remove the line "Library=gb.qt.editor" from the .project file and then change the field to a textarea. Not sure if this is a Gambas or a QT problem at the moment. Mike. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From rizky at ...225... Thu Aug 14 07:00:50 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:00:50 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> Message-ID: <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> hi, i create a program that create a menu.. i create this menu not from the designer.. but from the coding, so when the program runs it will have the same structure menu... i just wanna ask.. how do i accessed the event click on that menu ??? so when the menu that i create with coding works just like a menu that i designed in gui... From nigel at ...38... Thu Aug 14 13:16:47 2003 From: nigel at ...38... (Nigel Gerrard) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:16:47 +0100 Subject: [Gambas-user] Startup Class - Changing through the IDE Message-ID: <006d01c36255$8e582770$000a0a0a@...171...> Up until and including version 0.60 you could Open Project -> Properties -> General and check what Startup Class had been defined in the .project file. In 0.62 and 0.64 the Startup Class is not shown within the Project Properties. Is it available elsewhere within the IDE - other than at the start of a new project ? ( I know you could manually edit the .project file ) Nigel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eng_ak at ...200... Thu Aug 14 11:45:47 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:45:47 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] gbc Message-ID: <3F3B5A4B.1070003@...200...> Hi I have debugged the problem that gives sig 11 from within the IDE, to the following. The IDE never compiles the code and produce the binary executable. Also, if I cd to the dir & type $ gbc ./ I get "OK" on the screen and nothign is compiled. gba works OTOH. Is this the problem. what should happen with "gbc ./" and what's the diff bet gba & gbc thnx From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Thu Aug 14 16:22:29 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:22:29 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Startup Class - Changing through the IDE In-Reply-To: <006d01c36255$8e582770$000a0a0a@...171...> References: <006d01c36255$8e582770$000a0a0a@...171...> Message-ID: <200308141022.29656.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Thursday 14 August 2003 07:16, Nigel Gerrard wrote: > In 0.62 and 0.64 the Startup Class is not shown within the Project > Properties. Is it available elsewhere within the IDE - other than at the > start of a new project ? ( I know you could manually edit the .project file Try right clicking on the classes in the project view. Also, look at the icons representing them. I don't think this was documented, but it's handy. Rob From samuel.derous at ...27... Thu Aug 14 16:25:52 2003 From: samuel.derous at ...27... (Samuel Derous) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:25:52 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] little problemke ;-) Message-ID: <200308141625.52746.samuel.derous@...27...> Hey, Sad of course that humans only post when there's a problem... So, let I first tell you that I like the program and that it is a favourite basic implementation on Linux... But still a problem... I have a problem with the qt.ext library... Every time I try to use it in a program and try to run it it crashes with the info that it returned a 1... It seems it can't read the lib.gb.qt.la... but that file is there... older programs that work with the extensions and which are made with older versions of gambas work fine... The problem occurred with gambas 0.64a... Sam From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Thu Aug 14 16:36:26 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:36:26 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308141036.26724.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Thursday 14 August 2003 01:00, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > i just wanna ask.. how do i accessed the event click on that menu ??? > so when the menu that i create with coding works just like a menu that i > designed in gui... If you know in advance what all the menus will be named, just write the appropriately named event subs, e.g. PRIVATE SUB MyFileOpenMenu_Click(whatever params normally go in a menu click event) If you don't, put it in a control group, something like this: dim myMenuItem as Object myMenuItem = new Menu(myMainMenu) AS MenuItem myMenuItem.Text = "&Open" myMenuItem.Tag = "FileOpen" ... PRIVATE SUB MenuItem_Click(params...) if LAST.Tag = "FileOpen" Then ... Hope that makes some sense. Rob From Gambasfr at ...11... Thu Aug 14 17:46:37 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:46:37 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308141746.37902.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Jeudi 14 Ao?t 2003 07:00, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > hi, > > i create a program that create a menu.. i create this menu not from the > designer.. but from the coding, so when the program runs it will have the > same structure menu... > > i just wanna ask.. how do i accessed the event click on that menu ??? > so when the menu that i create with coding works just like a menu that i > designed in gui... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user Has we says in french.... OULALA So, When you created your menu you type : Private mnuQuit as Menu 'to store the menu.id's Public Sub MenuCreating() Dim hMenu as Menu Dim MnuParent as Object mnuParent = Me hMenu = NewMenu(mnuParent) as "MnuFileEvent" hMenu.Text = "File" mnuQuit = NewMenu(hMenu) as "MnuQuitEvent" ' it's the as ... who define the events label !! mnuQuit.Text = "Quit" end Public Sub MenuQuitEvent_Click() QUIT end That's all See the SupSelector.Class of the gambas IDE for more information about menu, and menu container. For exemple, i can define a menu in the embedded windows parent, and have the code event in the embedded window itself. As i can remember this is not possible on vb... Oh .. you can define more than one menu with the same event name... this made a groupe. For a group be carefull the better is to define a tag for each item. Private mnuTab as Object[] 'to store the menu.id's Private mnuFile as Menu Public Sub MenuCreating() Dim hMenu as Menu Dim MnuParent as Object mnuParent = Me mnuFile = NewMenu(mnuParent) as "MnuFileEvent" mnuFile.Text = "File" hMenu = NewMenu(hMenu) as "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Open" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) hMenu = NewMenu(hMenu) as "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Quit" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) end and in the event manager : Public sub mnuEvent_Click() Select Case LAST.Tag Case 0 Dialog.OpenFile mnuTab[Last.Tag].Enabled = False 'This switch the menu open to not enabled! Case 1 QUIT ... end Fabien Bodard From Gambasfr at ...11... Thu Aug 14 17:46:37 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:46:37 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308141746.37902.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Jeudi 14 Ao?t 2003 07:00, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > hi, > > i create a program that create a menu.. i create this menu not from the > designer.. but from the coding, so when the program runs it will have the > same structure menu... > > i just wanna ask.. how do i accessed the event click on that menu ??? > so when the menu that i create with coding works just like a menu that i > designed in gui... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user Has we says in french.... OULALA So, When you created your menu you type : Private mnuQuit as Menu 'to store the menu.id's Public Sub MenuCreating() Dim hMenu as Menu Dim MnuParent as Object mnuParent = Me hMenu = NewMenu(mnuParent) as "MnuFileEvent" hMenu.Text = "File" mnuQuit = NewMenu(hMenu) as "MnuQuitEvent" ' it's the as ... who define the events label !! mnuQuit.Text = "Quit" end Public Sub MenuQuitEvent_Click() QUIT end That's all See the SupSelector.Class of the gambas IDE for more information about menu, and menu container. For exemple, i can define a menu in the embedded windows parent, and have the code event in the embedded window itself. As i can remember this is not possible on vb... Oh .. you can define more than one menu with the same event name... this made a groupe. For a group be carefull the better is to define a tag for each item. Private mnuTab as Object[] 'to store the menu.id's Private mnuFile as Menu Public Sub MenuCreating() Dim hMenu as Menu Dim MnuParent as Object mnuParent = Me mnuFile = NewMenu(mnuParent) as "MnuFileEvent" mnuFile.Text = "File" hMenu = NewMenu(hMenu) as "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Open" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) hMenu = NewMenu(hMenu) as "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Quit" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) end and in the event manager : Public sub mnuEvent_Click() Select Case LAST.Tag Case 0 Dialog.OpenFile mnuTab[Last.Tag].Enabled = False 'This switch the menu open to not enabled! Case 1 QUIT ... end Fabien Bodard From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Thu Aug 14 16:27:16 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:27:16 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] gbc In-Reply-To: <3F3B5A4B.1070003@...200...> References: <3F3B5A4B.1070003@...200...> Message-ID: <200308141027.16169.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Thursday 14 August 2003 05:45, Ahmad Kamal wrote: > $ gbc ./ > I get "OK" on the screen and nothign is compiled. gba works OTOH. > Is this the problem. what should happen with "gbc ./" and what's the > diff bet gba & gbc gbc compiles the individual classes and puts them in the hidden .gambas directory inside the project. gba just takes all the resulting object files (plus any data files listed in the .project) and jams them together into an archive format that gbi (the interpreter) can understand. Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Thu Aug 14 17:11:50 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:11:50 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] little problemke ;-) In-Reply-To: <200308141625.52746.samuel.derous@...27...> References: <200308141625.52746.samuel.derous@...27...> Message-ID: <200308141111.50294.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Thursday 14 August 2003 10:25, Samuel Derous wrote: > It seems it can't read the lib.gb.qt.la... but that file is there... > older programs that work with the extensions and which are made with older > versions of gambas work fine... I wonder if that library somehow never got updated when you installed 0.64a. Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Thu Aug 14 18:36:33 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308141036.26724.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> <200308141036.26724.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308141236.33023.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Thursday 14 August 2003 10:36, Rob wrote: > myMenuItem = new Menu(myMainMenu) AS MenuItem Oops, I forgot the quotes. myMenuItem = new Menu(myMainMenu) AS "MenuItem" (thanks Fabien ;) ) Rob From seth at ...235... Thu Aug 14 14:57:02 2003 From: seth at ...235... (seth) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 08:57:02 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] (no subject) Message-ID: <3F3B871E.50005@...235...> I install gambas on mandrake 9.1 power pack ed. runing gnome from the two mandrake rpms and whem i try to lanch it i get error 24 "no start up method" From bsnipes at ...21... Thu Aug 14 15:26:50 2003 From: bsnipes at ...21... (Brian Snipes) Date: 14 Aug 2003 08:26:50 -0500 Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing on SuSE 8.1 - segmentation fault In-Reply-To: <3F3AA973.8030209@...233...> References: <3F3AA973.8030209@...233...> Message-ID: <1060867610.30196.2.camel@...73...> This may be off but it is work a try. I run Gentoo and have a library called libtrash.so preload (it works like a recycle bin on Windows). If it is enabled Gambas crashes on startup. If SuSE has a similiar global setting for LD_PRELOAD maybe it is interfering. Try running: unset LD_PRELOAD gambas Brian On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 16:11, neil lewis wrote: > I'm trying to compile/install Gambas 0.64a on a SuSE 8.1 system. > > The system is fully patched with all SuSE updates. I have some other > non-SuSE apps installed, but have made no changes to system libraries etc. > > Previously, I found tha last few versions would compile okay, but stop > with an error when installing. > > I have now compiled with --disable-preloading as suggested and the > compile/install seems fine, but Gambas won't start. When I try to run it > from a Konsole, it reports simply "segmentation fault" and stops. > > Any thoughts? > > Neil Lewis. > > From nferraz at ...184... Thu Aug 14 20:36:18 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 14 Aug 2003 15:36:18 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: linux and ...the lack of Visual Basic...and the comunity of devX.com In-Reply-To: <3F38DED1.2070400@...207...> References: <3F38DED1.2070400@...207...> Message-ID: <1060886180.558.20.camel@...185...> > > By the project author's own admission, Gambas is not code-compatible > > with VB. Gambas is an interesting project; however, it's not going to > > attract many VB programmers unless you can directly import most or all > > of their existing code. You might be able to gain a few developers > > switching to Linux though, and I'm perfectly willing to let you write an > > article on Gambas if you like--introducing it to the DevX programming > > community and probably to some open source proponents as well. Let me > > know if you're interested in that. Anything you write should definitely > > show code examples--and should definitely compare those examples to > > equivalent Visual Basic code. > > Sorry, but I am a gambas begeaner and my english is too bad to write an article, > (even a mail like this one :) )...but maybe someone at the gambas list would > like do it ;) Rob and I have worked on a small script to convert VB forms to Gambas. Perhaps we could go beyond that, and write a small article comparing Gambas to VB. What do you think, Rob? (Thanks for forwarding this message to the list, Luis Alberto!) -- []s Nelson ________________________________________________________________ Nelson Ferraz GNU BIS: http://www.gnubis.com.br PhPerl: http://www.phperl.com From rjones at ...230... Thu Aug 14 20:50:04 2003 From: rjones at ...230... (Russell Jones) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:50:04 -0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: linux and ...the lack of Visual Basic...andthe comunity of devX.com Message-ID: Nelson: As I said in my email to Luis, I'd be glad to publish information comparing and contrasting Gambas to VB. Let me know. Thanks, Russell Jones, Executive Editor, DevX.com -----Original Message----- From: Nelson Ferraz [mailto:nferraz at ...184...] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:36 PM To: Gambas Mailing List Cc: Russell Jones Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Re: linux and ...the lack of Visual Basic...andthe comunity of devX.com > > By the project author's own admission, Gambas is not code-compatible > > with VB. Gambas is an interesting project; however, it's not going > > to attract many VB programmers unless you can directly import most > > or all of their existing code. You might be able to gain a few > > developers switching to Linux though, and I'm perfectly willing to > > let you write an article on Gambas if you like--introducing it to > > the DevX programming community and probably to some open source > > proponents as well. Let me know if you're interested in that. > > Anything you write should definitely show code examples--and should > > definitely compare those examples to equivalent Visual Basic code. > > Sorry, but I am a gambas begeaner and my english is too bad to write > an article, > (even a mail like this one :) )...but maybe someone at the gambas list would > like do it ;) Rob and I have worked on a small script to convert VB forms to Gambas. Perhaps we could go beyond that, and write a small article comparing Gambas to VB. What do you think, Rob? (Thanks for forwarding this message to the list, Luis Alberto!) -- []s Nelson ________________________________________________________________ Nelson Ferraz GNU BIS: http://www.gnubis.com.br PhPerl: http://www.phperl.com From stibs at ...6... Thu Aug 14 23:24:23 2003 From: stibs at ...6... (stibs at ...6...) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:24:23 +0100 Subject: [Gambas-user] Welcome Russell ! Message-ID: <200308142124.WAA15500@...7...> Seems I made you curious :), welcome at the Gambas-user list! I'm still working at the article for devx.com, it will be ready on Monday. Gambas will be a part of it. That's why: Benoit (holidays?), Rob and all the other long time users and developers, I'm going to post a draft here that someone can chase the bugs out (and proofreading my very german english language). Would you be so kind to do that? --Kindest Regards/ Freundliche Gr??e-- STIBS (aka Michael Stibane) "Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." --Voltaire ... seems this guy already knew about Linux :o) ... ________________________________________________________ Training, Administration, Consulting, Development http://www.stibs.cc, stibs at ...6... -- Mandrakesoft Linux Campus Trainer http://mandrakesoft.com/training -- Escapade Server Sided Scripting Language Dev Team Pensacola, Dallas, Dresden, London http://escapade.org, stibs at ...135... -- Yoper OS German Maintainer http://yoper.com, stibs at ...136... ________________________________________________________ From neil at ...233... Fri Aug 15 00:29:30 2003 From: neil at ...233... (neil lewis) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:29:30 +0000 Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing on SuSE 8.1 - segmentation fault In-Reply-To: <1060867610.30196.2.camel@...73...> References: <3F3AA973.8030209@...233...> <1060867610.30196.2.camel@...73...> Message-ID: <3F3C0D4A.5020602@...233...> Hi Brian, Thanks for the suggestion, but that didn't work. SuSE accepted the instruction "unset ld_preload" , but gambas still caused a segfault when trying to start immediately afterwards. Regards, Neil Lewis. Brian Snipes wrote: >This may be off but it is work a try. I run Gentoo and have a library >called libtrash.so preload (it works like a recycle bin on Windows). If >it is enabled Gambas crashes on startup. If SuSE has a similiar global >setting for LD_PRELOAD maybe it is interfering. Try running: > >unset LD_PRELOAD >gambas > >Brian > >On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 16:11, neil lewis wrote: > > >>I'm trying to compile/install Gambas 0.64a on a SuSE 8.1 system. >> >>The system is fully patched with all SuSE updates. I have some other >>non-SuSE apps installed, but have made no changes to system libraries etc. >> >>Previously, I found tha last few versions would compile okay, but stop >>with an error when installing. >> >>I have now compiled with --disable-preloading as suggested and the >>compile/install seems fine, but Gambas won't start. When I try to run it >>from a Konsole, it reports simply "segmentation fault" and stops. >> >>Any thoughts? >> >>Neil Lewis. >> >> >> >> > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >_______________________________________________ >Gambas-user mailing list >Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > > > From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Fri Aug 15 04:05:25 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:05:25 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Welcome Russell ! In-Reply-To: <200308142124.WAA15500@...7...> References: <200308142124.WAA15500@...7...> Message-ID: <200308142205.25403.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Thursday 14 August 2003 17:24, stibs at ...6... wrote: > Gambas will be a part of it. That's why: Benoit (holidays?), Rob and all > the other long time users and developers, I'm going to post a draft here > that someone can chase the bugs out (and proofreading my very german > english language). Would you be so kind to do that? Benoit is off on holiday, but I know I'll be happy to help you out and others will too. Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Fri Aug 15 00:34:20 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:34:20 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: linux and ...the lack of Visual Basic...and the comunity of devX.com In-Reply-To: <1060886180.558.20.camel@...185...> References: <3F38DED1.2070400@...207...> <1060886180.558.20.camel@...185...> Message-ID: <200308141834.20577.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Thursday 14 August 2003 14:36, Nelson Ferraz wrote: > Rob and I have worked on a small script to convert VB forms to Gambas. > Perhaps we could go beyond that, and write a small article comparing > Gambas to VB. > What do you think, Rob? I may have time to work on such an article this weekend, assuming the damage from the northeast US's current power problems isn't too severe :) Rob From rizky at ...225... Fri Aug 15 06:00:34 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:00:34 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] the gambas RPM In-Reply-To: <200308141036.26724.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> <200308141036.26724.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308151100.34729.rizky@...225...> is there any one that already have the gambas 0.64a rpm ?? please tell me the link.. i don't have time to compile the source code, 'coz my computer is too slow to compile with ./configure or make and some thing like that... From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Fri Aug 15 06:59:14 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:59:14 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] the gambas RPM In-Reply-To: <200308151100.34729.rizky@...225...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141036.26724.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308151100.34729.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308150059.14054.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Friday 15 August 2003 00:00, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > is there any one that already have the gambas 0.64a rpm ?? > please tell me the link.. > i don't have time to compile the source code, 'coz my computer is too slow > to compile with ./configure or make and some thing like that... I seem to be the only one building RPM's of Gambas right now, and I haven't had time to update to 0.64a yet.... I'm hoping this'll be the one that finally gets into Mandrake contribs, so I'm gonna be extra careful ;) Rob From nigel at ...38... Fri Aug 15 13:43:44 2003 From: nigel at ...38... (Nigel Gerrard) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:43:44 +0100 Subject: [Gambas-user] Startup Class - Changing through the IDE References: <006d01c36255$8e582770$000a0a0a@...171...> <200308141022.29656.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <006801c36322$7c762020$000a0a0a@...171...> Thanks, I can now see that it is a tick box on the menu. Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" To: Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Startup Class - Changing through the IDE On Thursday 14 August 2003 07:16, Nigel Gerrard wrote: > In 0.62 and 0.64 the Startup Class is not shown within the Project > Properties. Is it available elsewhere within the IDE - other than at the > start of a new project ? ( I know you could manually edit the .project file Try right clicking on the classes in the project view. Also, look at the icons representing them. I don't think this was documented, but it's handy. 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(=?windows-1254?B?1lpE3UwgVEFORVLd?=) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:04:59 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] GAMBAS DOES NOT START Message-ID: <000a01c3632d$d61e6460$0100a8c0@...191...> HI it is me again ?zdil from turkey i would use translate gambas into turkish but i could not cos it does not start on mnd 9.1 i did a clean install and compile 0.64a it gives the same stupid error can not load config.class benoit says he could not reproduce the error on his system to solve is a nvidia graphic card problem for this? or i insatall mnd 9.1 in turkish? but i tried lang=en gambas nothing happens how can i have it start? i also tried rpm packages for mnd 9.1 they do not work i click on gambas from kde menu it wait a few seconds hdd light goes on then off and nothing happens how can i use gambas i am following many of you having problems in using the language not configuring please help me ?zdil from turkey --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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(Nelson Ferraz) Date: 15 Aug 2003 15:08:03 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: linux and ...the lack of Visual Basic...and the comunity of devX.com In-Reply-To: <200308141834.20577.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <3F38DED1.2070400@...207...> <1060886180.558.20.camel@...185...> <200308141834.20577.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <1060970884.583.9.camel@...185...> > > Rob and I have worked on a small script to convert VB forms to Gambas. > > Perhaps we could go beyond that, and write a small article comparing > > Gambas to VB. > > What do you think, Rob? > > I may have time to work on such an article this weekend, assuming the damage > from the northeast US's current power problems isn't too severe :) Okay, let's work on this article! -- []s Nelson ________________________________________________________________ Nelson Ferraz GNU BIS: http://www.gnubis.com.br PhPerl: http://www.phperl.com From Gambasfr at ...11... Fri Aug 15 21:51:17 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:51:17 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Hayhayhay the bug! Message-ID: <200308152151.17194.Gambasfr@...11...> Hi to all. I have a bug on Gambas-0.64a, i can't launch nor qt.ext neither qt.kde so i've already cleaned manually the directory opt/gambas and re-install it. but the problem persist. So actually i work on a 0.63 for my componant... An idea ? Fabien Bodard From Gambasfr at ...11... Fri Aug 15 21:46:42 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:46:42 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Welcome Russell ! In-Reply-To: <200308142205.25403.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308142124.WAA15500@...7...> <200308142205.25403.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308152146.42758.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Vendredi 15 Ao?t 2003 04:05, Rob a ?crit : > On Thursday 14 August 2003 17:24, stibs at ...6... wrote: > > Gambas will be a part of it. That's why: Benoit (holidays?), Rob and all > > the other long time users and developers, I'm going to post a draft here > > that someone can chase the bugs out (and proofreading my very german > > english language). Would you be so kind to do that? > > Benoit is off on holiday, but I know I'll be happy to help you out and > others will too. > > Rob Yes but for me ... i'm too bad in spelling check, and maybe i add new spelling fault. (My english is really poor) But if i can help for anything during the week... Call me. Actually i'm re-re-written the openbox entirely to be sure that the 1.0 version have no bug in my part... And to simplify the code too. I do it Now because during septembre i'm harvesting my vine, and have too lot of work in my winery to work on gambas during his month. But after, I continue this adventure of course. Like I do since March 2002 (happy birthday to me... lol) Fabien Bodard From karl.reinl at ...9... Fri Aug 15 22:36:05 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:36:05 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing on SuSE 8.1 - segmentation fault References: <3F3AA973.8030209@...233...> <1060867610.30196.2.camel@...73...> <3F3C0D4A.5020602@...233...> Message-ID: <3F3D4435.1050002@...9...> neil lewis schrieb: > Hi Brian, > > Thanks for the suggestion, but that didn't work. > > SuSE accepted the instruction "unset ld_preload" , but gambas still > caused a segfault when trying to start immediately afterwards. > > Regards, have a look at :http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/how2use_gdb/index.html and you will be able to give more informations amicalemant Charlie > > Neil Lewis. > > Brian Snipes wrote: > >> This may be off but it is work a try. I run Gentoo and have a library >> called libtrash.so preload (it works like a recycle bin on Windows). If >> it is enabled Gambas crashes on startup. If SuSE has a similiar global >> setting for LD_PRELOAD maybe it is interfering. Try running: >> >> unset LD_PRELOAD >> gambas >> >> Brian >> >> On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 16:11, neil lewis wrote: >> >> >>> I'm trying to compile/install Gambas 0.64a on a SuSE 8.1 system. >>> >>> The system is fully patched with all SuSE updates. I have some other >>> non-SuSE apps installed, but have made no changes to system >>> libraries etc. >>> >>> Previously, I found tha last few versions would compile okay, but >>> stop with an error when installing. >>> >>> I have now compiled with --disable-preloading as suggested and the >>> compile/install seems fine, but Gambas won't start. When I try to >>> run it from a Konsole, it reports simply "segmentation fault" and stops. >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> Neil Lewis. >> From gambas at ...162... Thu Aug 14 18:29:49 2003 From: gambas at ...162... (Wojtek) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:29:49 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Startup Class - Changing through the IDE In-Reply-To: <006d01c36255$8e582770$000a0a0a@...171...> References: <006d01c36255$8e582770$000a0a0a@...171...> Message-ID: <200308141829.49363.gambas@...162...> Dnia czw 14. sierpnia 2003 13:16, Nigel Gerrard napisa?: > Up until and including version 0.60 you could Open Project -> Properties -> > General and check what Startup Class had been defined in the .project file. > In 0.62 and 0.64 the Startup Class is not shown within the Project > Properties. Is it available elsewhere within the IDE - other than at the > start of a new project ? ( I know you could manually edit the .project file Popmenu class files. -- Wojciech Saltarski From neil at ...233... Sat Aug 16 01:06:35 2003 From: neil at ...233... (neil lewis) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:06:35 +0000 Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing on SuSE 8.1 - segmentation fault In-Reply-To: <3F3D4435.1050002@...9...> References: <3F3AA973.8030209@...233...> <1060867610.30196.2.camel@...73...> <3F3C0D4A.5020602@...233...> <3F3D4435.1050002@...9...> Message-ID: <3F3D677B.7000408@...233...> Hi Charlie, Thanks for the suggestion. I ran /opt/gambas/bin/gbx in DDD (which uses gdb) and it said " > gdb) run > ERROR: #45: File or directory does not exist: /home/neil/.project > > Program exited with code 01. > (gdb) Neil Lewis. Charlie wrote: > neil lewis schrieb: > >> Hi Brian, >> >> Thanks for the suggestion, but that didn't work. >> >> SuSE accepted the instruction "unset ld_preload" , but gambas still >> caused a segfault when trying to start immediately afterwards. >> >> Regards, > > > have a look at :http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/how2use_gdb/index.html > > and you will be able to give more informations > > amicalemant > Charlie > > >> >> Neil Lewis. >> >> Brian Snipes wrote: >> >>> This may be off but it is work a try. I run Gentoo and have a library >>> called libtrash.so preload (it works like a recycle bin on >>> Windows). If >>> it is enabled Gambas crashes on startup. If SuSE has a similiar global >>> setting for LD_PRELOAD maybe it is interfering. Try running: >>> >>> unset LD_PRELOAD >>> gambas >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 16:11, neil lewis wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm trying to compile/install Gambas 0.64a on a SuSE 8.1 system. >>>> >>>> The system is fully patched with all SuSE updates. I have some >>>> other non-SuSE apps installed, but have made no changes to system >>>> libraries etc. >>>> >>>> Previously, I found tha last few versions would compile okay, but >>>> stop with an error when installing. >>>> >>>> I have now compiled with --disable-preloading as suggested and the >>>> compile/install seems fine, but Gambas won't start. When I try to >>>> run it from a Konsole, it reports simply "segmentation fault" and >>>> stops. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> Neil Lewis. >>> >>> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > From rizky at ...225... Sat Aug 16 07:46:02 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:46:02 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] GAMBAS DOES NOT START In-Reply-To: <000a01c3632d$d61e6460$0100a8c0@...191...> References: <000a01c3632d$d61e6460$0100a8c0@...191...> Message-ID: <200308161246.03129.rizky@...225...> yeah... i've same problem when i install gambas 0.62 rpm in my home computer... the solution is make an executeable file like ngambas (rwxrwxrwx) in that file fill like the following: --BOF-- rm -Rdf .gambas gambas --EOF-- then to run gambas do the following command in konsole: ./ngambas you can make a shorcut in the kde menu to point to that file.. well, i don't know why if there is that hidden directory it will raise error and gambas will not run... so i decide to download gambas 0.63 rpm and it works with out any problem... On Friday 15 August 2003 20:04, ?ZD?L TANER? wrote: > HI > it is me again > ?zdil from turkey > i would use translate gambas into turkish > but i could not > cos it does not start on mnd 9.1 > i did a clean install and compile 0.64a > it gives the same stupid error > can not load config.class > benoit says he could not reproduce the error on his system to solve > is a nvidia graphic card problem for this? > or i insatall mnd 9.1 in turkish? > but i tried > lang=en gambas > nothing happens > how can i have it start? > i also tried rpm packages for mnd 9.1 > they do not work > i click on gambas from kde menu > it wait a few seconds hdd light goes on > then off and nothing happens > how can i use gambas > i am following many of you having problems in using the language not > configuring please help me > ?zdil > from turkey > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 24.07.2003 From Gambasfr at ...11... Sat Aug 16 14:30:13 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:30:13 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] GAMBAS DOES NOT START In-Reply-To: <200308161246.03129.rizky@...225...> References: <000a01c3632d$d61e6460$0100a8c0@...191...> <200308161246.03129.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308161430.13251.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Samedi 16 Ao?t 2003 07:46, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > yeah... i've same problem when i install gambas 0.62 rpm in my home > computer... > > the solution is make an executeable file like ngambas (rwxrwxrwx) > in that file fill like the following: > > --BOF-- > rm -Rdf .gambas > gambas > --EOF-- > > then to run gambas do the following command in konsole: > > ./ngambas > > you can make a shorcut in the kde menu to point to that file.. > > well, i don't know why if there is that hidden directory it will raise > error and gambas will not run... > > so i decide to download gambas 0.63 rpm and it works with out any > problem... > > On Friday 15 August 2003 20:04, ?ZD?L TANER? wrote: > > HI > > it is me again > > ?zdil from turkey > > i would use translate gambas into turkish > > but i could not > > cos it does not start on mnd 9.1 > > i did a clean install and compile 0.64a > > it gives the same stupid error > > can not load config.class > > benoit says he could not reproduce the error on his system to solve > > is a nvidia graphic card problem for this? > > or i insatall mnd 9.1 in turkish? > > but i tried > > lang=en gambas > > nothing happens > > how can i have it start? > > i also tried rpm packages for mnd 9.1 > > they do not work > > i click on gambas from kde menu > > it wait a few seconds hdd light goes on > > then off and nothing happens > > how can i use gambas > > i am following many of you having problems in using the language not > > configuring please help me > > ?zdil > > from turkey > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 24.07.2003 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user Hi It's more simple than that.. you have just to delete the hidden file ".gambas" in your home directory ! Because gambas use now a directory named ".gambas" and this made a conflict in the ide. The both can be in the same directory under linux ! Fabien Bodard From Gambasfr at ...11... Sat Aug 16 14:35:21 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:35:21 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing on SuSE 8.1 - segmentation fault In-Reply-To: <3F3D677B.7000408@...233...> References: <3F3AA973.8030209@...233...> <3F3D4435.1050002@...9...> <3F3D677B.7000408@...233...> Message-ID: <200308161435.21690.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Samedi 16 Ao?t 2003 01:06, neil lewis a ?crit : > Hi Charlie, > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > I ran /opt/gambas/bin/gbx in DDD (which uses gdb) and it said " > > > gdb) run > > ERROR: #45: File or directory does not exist: /home/neil/.project > > > > Program exited with code 01. > > (gdb) > > Neil Lewis. > > Charlie wrote: > > neil lewis schrieb: > >> Hi Brian, > >> > >> Thanks for the suggestion, but that didn't work. > >> > >> SuSE accepted the instruction "unset ld_preload" , but gambas still > >> caused a segfault when trying to start immediately afterwards. > >> > >> Regards, > > > > have a look at :http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/how2use_gdb/index.html > > > > and you will be able to give more informations > > > > amicalemant > > Charlie > > > >> Neil Lewis. > >> > >> Brian Snipes wrote: > >>> This may be off but it is work a try. I run Gentoo and have a library > >>> called libtrash.so preload (it works like a recycle bin on > >>> Windows). If > >>> it is enabled Gambas crashes on startup. If SuSE has a similiar global > >>> setting for LD_PRELOAD maybe it is interfering. Try running: > >>> > >>> unset LD_PRELOAD > >>> gambas > >>> > >>> Brian > >>> > >>> On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 16:11, neil lewis wrote: > >>>> I'm trying to compile/install Gambas 0.64a on a SuSE 8.1 system. > >>>> > >>>> The system is fully patched with all SuSE updates. I have some > >>>> other non-SuSE apps installed, but have made no changes to system > >>>> libraries etc. > >>>> > >>>> Previously, I found tha last few versions would compile okay, but > >>>> stop with an error when installing. > >>>> > >>>> I have now compiled with --disable-preloading as suggested and the > >>>> compile/install seems fine, but Gambas won't start. When I try to > >>>> run it from a Konsole, it reports simply "segmentation fault" and > >>>> stops. > >>>> > >>>> Any thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> Neil Lewis. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/ > >01 _______________________________________________ > > Gambas-user mailing list > > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user hi you must to be in a project directory like /home/neil/gambas-0.64a/app/gambas then run the gdb process. Becaus in your case gdb said it have not found any roject ! Amicalement, Fabien Bodard ;?) From mephisto75 at ...20... Sat Aug 16 15:50:58 2003 From: mephisto75 at ...20... (mephisto75 at ...20...) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 15:50:58 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] 2 Questions... Message-ID: <200308161350.h7GDowQ01290@...224...> I'm working on a projekt in gambas and during the development I ran into 2 problems and don't know how to solve them. 1st : I already managed to find out, if a file or directory is a symbolic link with: IF Stat ([Path]) = gb.Link THEN .... End If But how do I find out the target of a symbolic Link ? 2nd : How do I find out the username of the actual locked in user ? Thanx for any help. __________________________________________________________________________ Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de From DHoll28158 at ...87... Sat Aug 16 16:32:05 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:32:05 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Property "Group" programming ??? Message-ID: <5a.2098736a.2c6f9a65@...87...> Since Gambas doesn't have control index property , I am trying to use the "Group" property in its place. I have two buttons on a form (Button1 and Button2), and set the Group property to "testGroup" I now have a public sub "testGroup_Click()" I have not been able to determine how to differentiate which button has been clicked. I assume that inside the sub, a Select Case statement is used give the desired action. I have not been able to find any examples to illustrate this. Thanks for any help. Regards Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sat Aug 16 18:30:29 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:30:29 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Property "Group" programming ??? In-Reply-To: <5a.2098736a.2c6f9a65@...87...> References: <5a.2098736a.2c6f9a65@...87...> Message-ID: <200308161230.29496.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:32, DHoll28158 at ...87... wrote: > I now have a public sub "testGroup_Click()" > I have not been able to determine how to differentiate which button has > been clicked. Use the LAST keyword. It refers to the object that generated the most recent event. Now, since Gambas currently doesn't give you access to the name of a control, you need to put something in the Tag property and use that in your select case: select case LAST.Tag case "Button1" ... case "Button2" ... etc... I think the wiki page for LAST has some more information. Rob From DHoll28158 at ...87... Sat Aug 16 19:43:44 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:43:44 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] Property "Group" programming ??? Message-ID: <16a.22acec8b.2c6fc750@...87...> In a message dated 8/16/2003 9:56:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... writes: > > On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:32, DHoll28158 at ...87... wrote: > >I now have a public sub "testGroup_Click()" > >I have not been able to determine how to differentiate which button has > >been clicked. > > Use the LAST keyword. It refers to the object that generated the most > recent > event. > > Now, since Gambas currently doesn't give you access to the name of a > control, > you need to put something in the Tag property and use that in your select > case: > > select case LAST.Tag > case "Button1" > ... > case "Button2" > ... > etc... > > I think the wiki page for LAST has some more information. > > Rob > Thanks Rob That worked, I can see where it might have some advantages over VBs index. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sat Aug 16 20:28:11 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:28:11 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] hey, devx article writers Message-ID: <200308161428.11328.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> I was just about to start writing something up when somethng funny occurred to me: I don't actually have VB anymore. I haven't run Windows on my own machines in about 3 years and when I gave my old company's laptop back upon starting my own company, I got rid of my last copy of VB as well. Nelson? Stibs? You guys still have VB laying about for some code examples and screenshots? ;) Rob From fj.cruz at ...179... Sat Aug 16 21:27:04 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:27:04 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] signal #11 Message-ID: <200308162127.04993.fj.cruz@...179...> Hi all, I've installed the 0.64a version of Gambas, compilled from the raw sources, and when i try to execute any project from the ide i get the signal #11 error. With gdb i get this: [neke at ...236... GMBUnar]$ gdb gbx GNU gdb 5.3-22mdk (Mandrake Linux) Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i586-mandrake-linux-gnu"... (gdb) set args -p (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx -p [New Thread 16384 (LWP 3246)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 3246)] 0x4006c317 in uselocale () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (gdb) I'm working in Mandrake 9.1 with kernel 2.4.21 and kde 3.1.2. Thanks. -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From karl.reinl at ...9... Sat Aug 16 21:59:21 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:59:21 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] hey, devx article writers References: <200308161428.11328.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <3F3E8D19.20308@...9...> Rob schrieb: >I was just about to start writing something up when somethng funny occurred to >me: I don't actually have VB anymore. I haven't run Windows on my own >machines in about 3 years and when I gave my old company's laptop back upon >starting my own company, I got rid of my last copy of VB as well. > >Nelson? Stibs? You guys still have VB laying about for some code examples >and screenshots? ;) > >Rob > > > Salut Rob, what exactly do you need, what kind of code or screenshots ? You know that there is a free version of vb you can use, yes there is ( but you need Windows to run :-P ). Let me know about. amicalement Charlie From karl.reinl at ...9... Sat Aug 16 22:10:10 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 22:10:10 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing on SuSE 8.1 - segmentation fault References: <3F3AA973.8030209@...233...> <3F3D4435.1050002@...9...> <3F3D677B.7000408@...233...> <200308161435.21690.Gambasfr@...11...> Message-ID: <3F3E8FA2.8060706@...9...> Fabien BODARD schrieb: >Le Samedi 16 Ao?t 2003 01:06, neil lewis a ?crit : > > >>Hi Charlie, >> >>Thanks for the suggestion. >> >>I ran /opt/gambas/bin/gbx in DDD (which uses gdb) and it said " >> >> >> >>>gdb) run >>>ERROR: #45: File or directory does not exist: /home/neil/.project >>> >>>Program exited with code 01. >>>(gdb) >>> >>> >>Neil Lewis. >> >>Charlie wrote: >> >> >>>neil lewis schrieb: >>> >>> >>>>Hi Brian, >>>> >>>>Thanks for the suggestion, but that didn't work. >>>> >>>>SuSE accepted the instruction "unset ld_preload" , but gambas still >>>>caused a segfault when trying to start immediately afterwards. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>have a look at :http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/how2use_gdb/index.html >>> >>>and you will be able to give more informations >>> >>>amicalemant >>>Charlie >>> >>> >>> >>>>Neil Lewis. >>>> >>>>Brian Snipes wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>This may be off but it is work a try. I run Gentoo and have a library >>>>>called libtrash.so preload (it works like a recycle bin on >>>>>Windows). If >>>>>it is enabled Gambas crashes on startup. If SuSE has a similiar global >>>>>setting for LD_PRELOAD maybe it is interfering. Try running: >>>>> >>>>>unset LD_PRELOAD >>>>>gambas >>>>> >>>>>Brian >>>>> >>>>>On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 16:11, neil lewis wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I'm trying to compile/install Gambas 0.64a on a SuSE 8.1 system. >>>>>> >>>>>>The system is fully patched with all SuSE updates. I have some >>>>>>other non-SuSE apps installed, but have made no changes to system >>>>>>libraries etc. >>>>>> >>>>>>Previously, I found tha last few versions would compile okay, but >>>>>>stop with an error when installing. >>>>>> >>>>>>I have now compiled with --disable-preloading as suggested and the >>>>>>compile/install seems fine, but Gambas won't start. When I try to >>>>>>run it from a Konsole, it reports simply "segmentation fault" and >>>>>>stops. >>>>>> >>>>>>Any thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>>Neil Lewis. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >>>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >>>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >>>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/ >>>01 _______________________________________________ >>>Gambas-user mailing list >>>Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user >>> >>> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >>_______________________________________________ >>Gambas-user mailing list >>Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user >> >> > > >hi >you must to be in a project directory like /home/neil/gambas-0.64a/app/gambas > >then run the gdb process. Becaus in your case gdb said it have not found any >roject ! > >Amicalement, Fabien Bodard ;?) > > > Salut, like Fabien wrote, change into the directory where you start to install gambas-0.64a, something under /opt/gambas/????? , there you cd to app/gambas And once there you start gdb. Now you debug gambas and not 'only' a gambas project. Using gbx is one step later. amicalement Charlie Charlie From karl.reinl at ...9... Sat Aug 16 22:16:46 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 22:16:46 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] 2 Questions... References: <200308161350.h7GDowQ01290@...224...> Message-ID: <3F3E912E.1090005@...9...> mephisto75 at ...20... schrieb: >I'm working on a projekt in gambas and during the development I ran into 2 problems and don't know >how to solve them. > >1st : I already managed to find out, if a file or directory is a symbolic link with: >IF Stat ([Path]) = gb.Link THEN > let me know if you find out ?? >.... >End If >But how do I find out the target of a symbolic Link ? > >2nd : How do I find out the username of the actual locked in user ? > > > use Application.user >Thanx for any help. > > From stibs at ...6... Sun Aug 17 00:06:10 2003 From: stibs at ...6... (stibs at ...6...) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 23:06:10 +0100 Subject: [Gambas-user] article for devx.com Message-ID: <200308162206.XAA07479@...7...> So, here it is. Gambas is addressed lower down. I didn't write much about because I thought some real world user statements from the mailing list would describe it best. If you can provide me some words about experiences with Gambas I'd be happy to include it. I highly appreciate proofreading, removing bugs, changing my (german like) choice of words and cleaning the text as well as hints and suggestions about the content. Thank you very much in advance! The text: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most Wanted? ... maybe it's already there... Russell Jones quoted in his editorial Russell Pavlicek with his "Top 10: Most Wanted Applications for Linux". Since I do consulting work, administration/ migration and training for Open Source solutions here in Germany, I'm confronted daily with many questions regarding equivalents under Linux for commonly used applications on Windows. To answer these questions I had to search the software portals up and down for available programs for Linux that can replace their Windows counterparts which again provided me a good market overview. Some of these solutions run now in my own office/home network, some at my clients computers, some I didn't test because I had no such problem to solve yet. In the following text I will step through Russell Pavlicek's suggestions and show that there already exist solutions for many of the mentioned applications and tasks. Russell lists ten points in reverse order, so we start with the last one as well. [[10. Migration tools from Eudora/Outlook to Kmail/Evolution. Although some solutions exist, there's no enterprise level GUI-driven solution for moving Exchange email to an open source counterpart.]] Three examples: Mozilla The Mozilla project produces the successor of the old Netscape 4.7x browser suite. From it's open source all new Netscape versions as well as other browsers like Galeon (a well known Gnome application) are built. It is platform independent and available on Windows and different flavors of Unix including Linux and OSX. The built in mail client, Mozilla Messenger, was recently voted as the best Anti-Spam tool available by the german PC magazine c't, one of the leading german publications for computer professionals. It is a pure mail client and nothing else (no groupware or calendaring) but offers a comfortable wizard for importing Outlook and Outlook Express addressbooks and mail folder structures. In my opinion Mozilla offers the easiest transition from Windows to Linux in usability. KMail KMail is a mail client integrated in the K Desktop Environment (KDE). It is basically also a mail-only application but there exist different solutions, for example KOrganizer, where the mail features of KMail are plugged to extend the functionality. KOrganizer is a calendaring/ scheduling application with task management. KMail offers in the tools menu the import wizards for Outlook Express 4 and 5 mail folder structures and MS Exchange addressbooks. [KMAIL's import filter - Screenshot with anti-aliased fonts on Mandrake 9.2 Beta 2] Evolution Evolution from Ximian, recently acquired by Novell, is a software like Microsoft Outlook. It is the leader in its field on Linux comparing features and equipment. The easiest solution to get Outlook appointments, calendars or tasks transferred to Evolution is Outport (http://outport.sourceforge.net), a Windows software that exports the Outlook items into the native Evolution file format. Copy the files to the Linux machine and read them with Evolution and you're done. Evolution is able, like the other two programs, to import Outlook email structures directly with a wizard. [[9. Anti-virus scanning for all protocols. Although users don't have to be as concerned (presently) with email viruses on Linux, it's critical for Linux mail servers to protect Windows clients. Users also need solutions that guard against malevolent code delivered via HTTP and FTP.]] As stated, the virus scanning isn't that important for Linux itself yet. With Linux gaining marketshare on the desktop this situation will perhaps change. But if you today use Linux as a mailserver or gateway in your heterogenous network, it should protect your windows computers from malicious code. The solution for this problem is Open Antivirus (http://www.openantivirus.org). They provide a scanner demon which is able to monitor network traffic, Virus-Hammer, a standalone application for end-users, Squid- and Samba- VScan modules which monitor webproxy traffic (Squid) and Samba/ Windows share file traffic. The open architecture and the fact, it's written in Java, allow the protection system running at different operating systems and integrate with different, also commercial, virus scanners like FProt or Kaspersky AV. The software is already used in other projects, mostly for securing mailservers. Messagewall (http://messagewall.org) or AmAViS (http://amavis.org) are two exam! ples. If we speak about anti-virus it's not far to spam, the second biggest plague of our days. Linux got plenty of applications to avoid the unwanted mails. Server side this is SpamAssassin (http://spamassassin.org) or Blackhole (http://iland.net/~ckennedy/blackhole.shtml) which can filter the mails in direct cooperation with the MTA, Blackhole can also perform virus-scans. Before the mails get delivered to the user mailboxes a tool called Spastic (http://spastic.sourceforge.net) does a great job of sorting/filtering and at the client side the Mozilla Messenger has great features to get rid of the unwanted offers. [[8. Excel macro conversion. Although StarOffice, OpenOffice, and others can read and convert Excel files, they can't convert or run Excel VBA macros. As many companies have significant and often critical investments in such macros, they won't migrate until that work can run equivalently on Linux.]] That's a field that, to my knowledge, nobody really worked yet. Saying Star Office and OpenOffice can't convert VBA macros is not 100% correct. They can, if the macros are easy ones. But I guess most companies macros aren't easy. [[7. Photoshop. A robust open-source image editing program, GIMP, already has a powerful feature set, but it needs a cleaner, easier interface, with top-tier Photoshop functionality?a GIMP for professional-level users. (Note: Photoshop now runs on WINE.)]] There is one project in the KDE office suite, if it gets manpower sometimes in the future, that could push the Gimp from it's throne on Linux... http://www.koffice.org/krita. Familiar interface, familiar handling and menus chracterize the software but only two or three developers really work on it ... too bad. Krita doesn't really exist in a preview version. You only get KDE Head packages (latest CVS snapshots) as Debian packages from Orth's KDE Head website (http://opendoorsoftware.com/cgi/http.pl?p=kdecvs) and there is one Linux Live CD distro which is bold enough to include Krita in their additional second CD: http://www.mepis.org- Mepis Linux, a new distribution on the market but very stable and solidly based on Debian. [[6. AutoCAD. Pavlicek characterized AutoCAD as "the big dog of the midrange yard." Both high-end commercial CAD packages and lower-end open source CAD applications exist, but Linux needs a CAD package with a price-to-features ratio equivalent to AutoCAD. AutoCAD itself has so far declined to port its flagship product to Linux.]] I agree 100%. An AutoCAD like software Linux still needs. There are great programs for 2D and partially 3D CAD for the lower end. QCad (http://qcad.org) is the first to mention. It is a great tool for 2D CAD and imports/exports DXF files that can be used in other CAD systems. Qcad is considered as a first choice for mechanical construction. Varicad is the other system I know about. IT's also targeted to mechanical engineering. The developers are a czech company. Varicad sells for $399 while Qcad is Open Source software. Both are available for Linux and Windows while QCad also supports other Unix flavors and MacOSX. On the top of the scale you find software like PRO/ENGINEER Wildfire (http://ptc.com/appserver/it/icm/cda/icm01_list.jsp?group=201&num=1&show=y&keyword=403) from PTC, a CAD program used by companies like Harley Davidson, Mitsubishi or Lucent. Linux really lacks an application like AutoCAD. [[5. Better default fonts in X11 (Linux's X-windows implementation). The default fonts bother some people to the point that there's an Xfree86 Font Deuglification tutorial to help fix the problem.]] I'm really not sure if this is still true. I use Mandrake Linux 9.1 on most of my desktop computers. I think I remember that since version 8.2 Mandrake supports anti aliased fonts by default, since 9.1 also the installation screens have them. There are plenty of tools that can import truetype fonts if you really dislike what comes with the distribution, in Mandrake the tool is built into the Mandrake Control Center. Also Bitstream donated some months ago it's Vera font family to the Open Source. [[4. Mass deployment/enterprise admin tools. Although Linux ships with many administration tools, it needs enterprise-level tools for managing desktops and servers, pushing upgrades, lockdown and refresh, and performing backups.]] I haven't much experience with mass deployments and enterprise admin tools since my clients are small companies up to 20 PC's. One training center I look after runs 200 desktop machines on Windows in the classrooms but that's the exception. Though I know SuSE and RedHat offer in their Enterprise Server distribution tools for desktop management, administration, software distribution and all the addressed tasks. I'm sure a SuSE expert can tell more about this, here is at least the product description page of SuSE's Enterprise Server distribution- http://www.suse.com/us/business/products/server/sles/index.html. [[3. Easier connections to Windows shares and Netware file servers. Linux's connectivity software, SAMBA, is extremely powerful, but needs a better, easier interface. Linux needs a simple Windows domain login (Xandros is available as a commercial solution), and an equivalent to Windows' network neighborhood.]] In this part I'll describe the equivalents of Windows Network neighbourhood. I'm not too sure if a Linux desktop needs a Windows domain logon since Linux in most cases replaces the expensive Windows NT/2000/2003 servers, so it would make much more sense to have an easier Windows logon to a Linux based user authentification system. The first way to access a Windows share is direct access from Konqueror, the KDE filemanager and browser. It's built in. Instead typing an internet protocol like http:// or ftp:// simply type smb://computername/sharename into the address line and your Linux PC connects and asks for username and password. The only problem is, you have to know computername and sharename. Working around this fact are Komba (for KDE), Gnomba (for Gnome), LinNeighbourhood (not bound to a desktop environment) and smb4K (also for KDE). All programs are able to browse a Windows domain or workgroup, display the members and it's shares in a nice tree view and mount them directly into the Unix filesystem. If you have different logons to different shares you can manage them in the programs. [Screenshot smb4K browsing a win2k machine with a mounted share and showing info about the share] I don't have experience with Novell so I can't tell much about, but with Novells recent Linux activities I don't think we have to wait long if a solution for a special problem doesn't exist yet. [[2. Shared calendaring. Pavlicek calls shared calendaring the "opium of the enterprise," and says some organizations are simply addicted to Exchange's calendaring features. Linux needs a true, powerful, multi-platform calendaring server.]] OpenGroupware.org, an offshoot from the OpenOffice.org project, is a rocksolid server solution formerly known as Skyrix which held for years the groupware part in SuSE Linux Enterprise Server and Mail Server until they found a partner with better contract conditions. Kolab (http://www.kolab.org) is an equal solution. The development of Kolab was funded by the german government to have an Exchange like server for administrations. Both projects have german roots. A real business opportunity would be a user account conversion tool Exchange -> OpenGroupware.org. I also know of an OpenLDAP scheme that allows shared calendaring in ical format though I never tested it myself and the Mozilla calender module which uses the WEBDAV module on a webserver for sharing calendars. Not to mention the uncounted browser based groupware suites written in Perl and PHP where I prefer the integrated solution from http://phprojekt.com, an with project- and document- management coupled groupware. [[1. An MS Access-like small desktop database. There are many good databases available for Linux, but nothing that provides users with Access' ease-of-use. Linux needs a lightweight database with a simple GUI interface that database novices can use to design and populate databases.]] An MS Access like small desktop database frontend is Kexi (http://www.koffice.org/kexi), not ready yet for the upcoming KOffice 1.3 (the KDE office suite) but due late this year with a first stable standalone release. Later it will be back as an integrated part in KOffice. It includes the SQLite DB engine as an embedded database, it is scriptable with QSA (QT Script for Applications from Trolltech) and very usable (tested it with a self compiled beta). Kexi connects to database servers (MySQL, CQL) as well and planned is interfacing with ODBC. OpenOffice.org is also able to connect to database servers and provides an easy to use interface with form wizard. It reminds more to MS Access with it's easy to use interface. OpenOffice.org features no embedded database like Kexi but offers access to all OO.o native database drivers and all JDBC and ODBC compliant databases. Another frontend for databases is Knoda (http://knoda.sourceforge.net). It can be used to produce forms and reports and is scriptable in Python. [[Although it didn't make the top 10, Pavlicek says another oft-mentioned corporate roadblock to Linux adoption is the lack of Visual Basic or any language like it.]] There is number eleven. Probably very interesting for you. The good news: There exist VB like RAD tools for Linux, quite alot already. To start with the BASIC dialects there are two projects which can already considered stable. Gambas (http://gambas.sourceforge.net) and HBasic (http://hbasic.sourceforge.net). Benoit Mitsini, the developer of Gambas describes his software this way: " With Gambas, you can quickly design your program GUI, access MySQL or PostgreSQL databases, pilot KDE applications with DCOP, translate your program into many languages, and so on... [but] I want to clear up any misunderstanding immediately. Gambas does not try to be compatible with Visual Basic, and will never be. I'm convinced that its syntax and internals are far better than the one's of its proprietary cousin ;-). I took from Visual Basic what I found useful: the Basic language, the development environment, and the easiness to quickly make programs with user interfaces." ***Gambas user experiences go here. Also transition VB -> Gambas experiences...*** [Screenshot Gambas in action] HBasic plays in the same league with a not so active developer community and interesting features like a database form wizard, database-, query- and report- designer which take over alot of programming work. HBasic's editor is very comfortable with it's code completion. HBasic also can setup projects in C#, produce .NET compatible code and you can access class instances of .NET classes from HBasic code when you compile the .NET support from the DotGNU project into the HBasic binaries. [Screenshots HBasic] Both, Gambas and HBasic, need only some days of adoption for an experienced VB programmer. Real Software with their proprietary RealBasic, which is able to convert VB to RB code, announced a Linux version for autumn this year too (http://realsoftware.com/company/pressreleases/linuxAnnounce.html). For Delphi and C++ programmers exists a common development environment with Kylix. It is free as long as the resulting applications are distributed as Open Source. Java developers can use the platform independent Eclipse IDE from Sun. With references to the Macintosh world, Runtime Revolution Ltd. (http://runrev.com) from UK produces a software that allows programming in the style of Apples Hypercard. "Revolution is a multi-platform software development tool that enables developers to easily and quickly create powerful applications for OS X, classic Mac OS, Windows, Linux, and popular Unix systems with native look and feel on all platforms." they state on their homepage. A trial version, limited in the lines of code that can be written, is available for free. PythonCard (http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net) is a similar software but still far from the mature state of Revolution. If you look for an Open Source software it's a good choice. It uses the well known Python as the scripting language. There is still more. Mozilla is a software I mentioned often in this article. Mozilla isn't only a browser suite. The developers built a very complete and intelligent infrastructure to make the software as portable and customizable as possible. With this infrastructure an XML dialect came up that can describe GUI interfaces. It's called XUL. The Mozilla binaries render the XUL file and display instead of textual descriptions the matching GUI widgets, just like any webbrowser replaces the HTML tag with a submit button. It's right the same like with HTML, you can make XUL documents responding to any event with Java Script. To develop XUL applications you would need just a text editor but a RAD tool for developing the XUL interface is available. XULmaker (http://xulmaker.mozdev.org) is currently a visual and interactive creator and editor of only XUL files. It is intended to evolve XULMaker over time into a full blown IDE - covering all development aspects of an XUL application. This will include the integration of a JavaScript editor and a CSS stylesheet editor for example. Summary... I'll write sometime on Sunday :P -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Kindest Regards/ Freundliche Gr??e-- STIBS (aka Michael Stibane) "Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." --Voltaire ... seems this guy already knew about Linux :o) ... ________________________________________________________ Training, Administration, Consulting, Development http://www.stibs.cc, stibs at ...6... -- Mandrakesoft Linux Campus Trainer http://mandrakesoft.com/training -- Escapade Server Sided Scripting Language Dev Team Pensacola, Dallas, Dresden, London http://escapade.org, stibs at ...135... -- Yoper OS German Maintainer http://yoper.com, stibs at ...136... ________________________________________________________ From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sun Aug 17 00:26:50 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 18:26:50 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] article for devx.com In-Reply-To: <200308162206.XAA07479@...7...> References: <200308162206.XAA07479@...7...> Message-ID: <200308161826.50097.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Saturday 16 August 2003 18:06, stibs at ...6... wrote: > [[10. Migration tools from Eudora/Outlook to Kmail/Evolution. Although > some solutions exist, there's no enterprise level GUI-driven solution for > moving Exchange email to an open source counterpart.]] I'm on my way out to dinner, but just wanted to mention that I migrated my Eudora mail to kmail just by pointing kmail at my old Eudora folder. They use the same format to save their mail ("mbox"). On the other hand, my partner was using Outlook 97 to read his mail, and while I got his mail over to evolution, the contacts came across horribly messed up. Mozilla was able to import them fine but evolution also messes up contacts imported from Mozilla and he doesn't like Mozilla 1.1 mail. Maybe this will work better in more current versions. Sorry for the OT content, more relevant comments later. On another note, it sounds like Russell asked Stibs and Nelson/myself for two different articles, so maybe I'll track down that free VB edition Charlie mentioned and try to get it going under crossover. Rob From eprion at ...103... Sun Aug 17 05:55:05 2003 From: eprion at ...103... (Eko Priono) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 10:55:05 +0700 (JAVT) Subject: [Gambas-user] Wanted: Vector Drawing Software (Was: Re: article for devx.com) Message-ID: Hi, Since M$ bough Corel, they wiped-out everything that Linux-related, including the most wanted software for printing and graphical design industries: Corel Draw! The current native Linux vector drawing solutions are still in development and not yet have the full power like what Corel Draw can offer. In the meantime, full-fledged PC emulators (i.e. VMware) and windoze HAL emulators (i.e. CrossOver Office) could be used to run win versions of Corel Draw to some extent. But still, a more powerful vector drawing software is needed for Linux, preferable the ones that can import and export Corel's CDR file format, and runs natively under Linux. --Eko http://attshoes.com/ On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 23:06:10 +0100, Stibs wrote: > [[7. Photoshop. A robust open-source image editing program, GIMP, > already has a powerful feature set, but it needs a cleaner, easier > interface, with top-tier Photoshop functionality- GIMP for > professional-level users. (Note: Photoshop now runs on WINE.)]] --Eko http://attshoes.com/ From eng_ak at ...200... Sun Aug 17 09:29:31 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 10:29:31 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] sample component Message-ID: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> Hi all, I have started writing the SDL component, I already have functions working in C, but to wrap them up as a component is the difficult part. Can anyone please send me any sample components he has written so that I can learn from them? Also, is this CExample sample component used in any example in GB? Thnx From amelgar at ...207... Sun Aug 17 15:24:44 2003 From: amelgar at ...207... (Luis Alberto Melgar Garcia) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:24:44 +0100 Subject: [Gambas-user] signal #11 In-Reply-To: <200308162127.04993.fj.cruz@...179...> References: <200308162127.04993.fj.cruz@...179...> Message-ID: <3F3F821C.9000405@...207...> F.J. Cruz escribi?: > Hi all, > > I've installed the 0.64a version of Gambas, compilled from the raw sources, > and when i try to execute any project from the ide i get the signal #11 > error. With gdb i get this: > > [neke at ...236... GMBUnar]$ gdb gbx > GNU gdb 5.3-22mdk (Mandrake Linux) > Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "i586-mandrake-linux-gnu"... > (gdb) set args -p > (gdb) run > Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx -p > [New Thread 16384 (LWP 3246)] > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 3246)] > 0x4006c317 in uselocale () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 > (gdb) > > I'm working in Mandrake 9.1 with kernel 2.4.21 and kde 3.1.2. > > Thanks. I am having the same problem too, (signal #11) with 0.64a, my system have the same components: mdk9.1...etc saludos From eng_ak at ...200... Sun Aug 17 15:25:17 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 16:25:17 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] signal #11 In-Reply-To: <3F3F821C.9000405@...207...> References: <200308162127.04993.fj.cruz@...179...> <3F3F821C.9000405@...207...> Message-ID: <3F3F823D.1010500@...200...> I had the same problem. As a quick sol, till Benoit gets back. Open a terminal and go to the project directory, then: gbc -a ; gba; ./myProj Luis Alberto Melgar Garcia wrote: > F.J. Cruz escribi?: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've installed the 0.64a version of Gambas, compilled from the raw >> sources, and when i try to execute any project from the ide i get the >> signal #11 error. With gdb i get this: >> >> [neke at ...236... GMBUnar]$ gdb gbx >> GNU gdb 5.3-22mdk (Mandrake Linux) >> Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and >> you are >> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain >> conditions. >> Type "show copying" to see the conditions. >> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for >> details. >> This GDB was configured as "i586-mandrake-linux-gnu"... >> (gdb) set args -p >> (gdb) run >> Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx -p >> [New Thread 16384 (LWP 3246)] >> >> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. >> [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 3246)] >> 0x4006c317 in uselocale () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 >> (gdb) >> >> I'm working in Mandrake 9.1 with kernel 2.4.21 and kde 3.1.2. >> >> Thanks. > > > I am having the same problem too, (signal #11) with 0.64a, my > system have the same components: mdk9.1...etc > > saludos > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > From DHoll28158 at ...87... Sun Aug 17 15:48:22 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:48:22 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] File access "System error, Illegal seek" Message-ID: <1db.f679b32.2c70e1a6@...87...> I have this file access program that gives me a "System error, Illegal seek" when I do a write after I have done a read. What changes do I need to make in the code to get this to work. ===================================================== Gambas class file 'The form consists of four buttons and TextLabel1 'Button1 tag "openport 'Button2 tag "readport 'Button3 tag "writeport 'Button4 tag "closeport hCom1 AS File PUBLIC SUB fourButtons_Click() SELECT LAST.tag CASE "openport" OPEN "/dev/ttyS1" FOR READ WRITE AS hCom1 PRINT #hCom1, "xmit from Gambas form" CASE "readport" INPUT #hCom1, TextLabel1.text CASE "writeport" PRINT #hCom1, "xmit from Gambas form" CASE "closeport" CLOSE #hCom1 END =================================================== Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sun Aug 17 20:23:40 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:23:40 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] File access "System error, Illegal seek" In-Reply-To: <1db.f679b32.2c70e1a6@...87...> References: <1db.f679b32.2c70e1a6@...87...> Message-ID: <200308171423.40946.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Sunday 17 August 2003 09:48, DHoll28158 at ...87... wrote: > I have this file access program that gives me a "System error, Illegal > seek" when I do a write after I have done a read. I didn't know you could INPUT# directly from a device (which is what you're accessing, not a file.) I thought you had to open it as READ WRITE WATCH or something like that. Here's some sample code from Benoit's announcement of 0.60, when this ability was first added, maybe it will help: (I haven't tested it as I can't find my old modem.) '------------------------- ' Gambas module PRIVATE hPort AS File PUBLIC SUB Main() OPEN "/dev/ttyS0" FOR READ WRITE WATCH AS #hPort END PUBLIC SUB File_Read() DIM iByte AS Byte PRINT "I can read at least one byte on the port" READ #hPort, iByte PRINT iByte END PUBLIC SUB File_Write() PRINT "I can write on the port" WRITE #hPort, 42 END '------------------------- From DHoll28158 at ...87... Sun Aug 17 20:59:58 2003 From: DHoll28158 at ...87... (DHoll28158 at ...87...) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:59:58 EDT Subject: [Gambas-user] File access "System error, Illegal seek" Message-ID: <70.3125d002.2c712aae@...87...> In a message dated 8/17/2003 11:27:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... writes: > I didn't know you could INPUT# directly from a device (which is what you're > > accessing, not a file.) I thought you had to open it as READ WRITE WATCH or > > something like that. > After working with my code for a while I noticed that the INPUT statement was not getting all of the buffer data. If I clicked the read button four times, it cleared the buffer. Then I could click the write button without getting the error. I changed to LINE INPUT and that solved the problem. As far as readng directly from a device. I think the driver "ttySx" looks like a file to the system. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karl.reinl at ...9... Sun Aug 17 23:37:30 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:37:30 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] article for devx.com References: <200308162206.XAA07479@...7...> <200308161826.50097.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <3F3FF59A.4030907@...9...> Rob schrieb: >On Saturday 16 August 2003 18:06, stibs at ...6... wrote: > > >>[[10. Migration tools from Eudora/Outlook to Kmail/Evolution. Although >>some solutions exist, there's no enterprise level GUI-driven solution for >>moving Exchange email to an open source counterpart.]] >> >> > >I'm on my way out to dinner, but just wanted to mention that I migrated my >Eudora mail to kmail just by pointing kmail at my old Eudora folder. They >use the same format to save their mail ("mbox"). > >On the other hand, my partner was using Outlook 97 to read his mail, and while >I got his mail over to evolution, the contacts came across horribly messed >up. Mozilla was able to import them fine but evolution also messes up >contacts imported from Mozilla and he doesn't like Mozilla 1.1 mail. Maybe >this will work better in more current versions. > >Sorry for the OT content, more relevant comments later. > >On another note, it sounds like Russell asked Stibs and Nelson/myself for two >different articles, so maybe I'll track down that free VB edition Charlie >mentioned and try to get it going under crossover. > > http://www.pc-magazin.de/common/dtt/file.php3?areaid=15&fileid=64e (may be it's a german version) >Rob > > From karl.reinl at ...9... Mon Aug 18 22:51:39 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:51:39 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a (a suivre) Message-ID: <3F413C5B.10901@...9...> Salut Beno?t, the following things I remarked: on my well known SuSE 7.2 (without KDE): - Now compiling gambas, is as easy like before. - The gambas-databasemanager makes well profed connections to mysql, but he crashed when I try to open a table. on gentoo ( with KDE) - compiling -- no problem - making an executable, dont raise an error when I use not (no more) existing properties (like Application.language and not System.language). Before it raised an error (don't aske me for version), I'm shure. But it don't run. - My SHELL calls in 'ToMySql', who writes to a file in /tmp by a process don't always return 'NOTHING', the file is empty. For that I think I have to figure out the changes since about 0.57. Hope you have nice holydays. Amicalement Charlie From nferraz at ...184... Tue Aug 19 05:52:41 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:52:41 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] article for devx.com In-Reply-To: <200308162206.XAA07479@...7...> References: <200308162206.XAA07479@...7...> Message-ID: <3F419F09.8090208@...184...> Stibs, Here are some comments on your article: > [[9. Anti-virus scanning for all protocols. Although users don't have to be as concerned (presently) with email viruses on Linux, it's critical for Linux mail servers to protect Windows clients. Users also need solutions that guard against malevolent code delivered via HTTP and FTP.]] > > As stated, the virus scanning isn't that important for Linux itself yet. With Linux gaining marketshare on the desktop this situation will perhaps change. I often hear that we'll see more Linux viruses as Linux become popular. If we think that popular open source projects like Apache (which more than 56% of market share) has a best security history than a proprietary product like Microsoft IIS, we'll see that there's no direct relation between security problems and popularity. On the other hand, you should at least mention that Microsoft recently bought and halted a Linux antivirus from a Romenian company (GeCAD). You'll find more details here: http://www.vnunet.com/News/1141750 And here: http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/06/11/HNrav_1.html > [[4. Mass deployment/enterprise admin tools. Although Linux ships with many administration tools, it needs enterprise-level tools for managing desktops and servers, pushing upgrades, lockdown and refresh, and performing backups.]] > > I haven't much experience with mass deployments and enterprise admin tools since my clients are small companies up to 20 PC's. One training center I look after runs 200 desktop machines on Windows in the classrooms but that's the exception. Though I know SuSE and RedHat offer in their Enterprise Server distribution tools for desktop management, administration, software distribution and all the addressed tasks. I'm sure a SuSE expert can tell more about this, here is at least the product description page of SuSE's Enterprise Server distribution- http://www.suse.com/us/business/products/server/sles/index.html. Linux is _much_ easier to admin in large scale than Windows, because it's more scriptable, well-documented, and all configuration files are plain text. Linux is perhaps a bit more difficult to manage in a single machine - but once it's configured, it will run forever. -- []s Nelson ________________________________________________________________ Nelson Ferraz GNU BIS: http://www.gnubis.com.br PhPerl: http://www.phperl.com From rizky at ...225... Wed Aug 20 05:59:11 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:59:11 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Log In-Reply-To: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> Message-ID: <200308201059.11488.rizky@...225...> hi, i wanna create a log list w/ gambas... i create the list w/ the textarea object... it is a simple log information.. actually it already can be used as a log info.. here is the example... i create a button and a textarea.. when i hit the button.. there is a "something word" in textarea... and when i hit the button again... the textarea will have 2 lines "something word"... the problem is when it already scollup, i can not see the last log.. so i must scroll down with my mouse... how do i do in gambas to make that textarea will always show to the last log, so i do not need to click with my mouse to scroll down ? From mephisto75 at ...20... Wed Aug 20 00:41:21 2003 From: mephisto75 at ...20... (mephisto75 at ...20...) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:41:21 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Directorys.... Message-ID: <200308192241.h7JMfLQ21393@...224...> Does somebody know an easy way to find out the size of directorys ? Or do I have to read out every file in the directory and its subdirectorys an add the sizes, that would be ugly. Thanx __________________________________________________________________________ Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de From rizky at ...225... Wed Aug 20 10:55:51 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:55:51 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308141746.37902.Gambasfr@...11...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> <200308141746.37902.Gambasfr@...11...> Message-ID: <200308201555.51613.rizky@...225...> hi fabien, i've tried your example script about the menu... i create a project and paste your code.. i'm using gambas 0.63 here are the codes that i've paste from your script: ' Gambas class file PRIVATE mnuTab AS Object[] 'to store the menu.id's PRIVATE mnuFile AS Menu PUBLIC SUB MenuCreating() DIM hMenu AS Menu DIM MnuParent AS Object mnuParent = ME mnuFile = NewMenu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" mnuFile.Text = "File" hMenu = NewMenu(hMenu) AS "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Open" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) hMenu = NewMenu(hMenu) AS "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Quit" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) PUBLIC SUB mnexit_Click() ME.CLOSE END PUBLIC SUB mnuEvent_Click() SELECT CASE LAST.Tag CASE 0 Dialog.OpenFile mnuTab[LAST.Tag].Enabled = FALSE 'This switch the menu open to not enabled! CASE 1 QUIT END but when i press F5 button, it raise error that pointed to these line : mnuFile = NewMenu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" the error is: "Syntax Error. End of line expected at line 10 in class Fmain.class" do you have the source of that example ? please attach... or is it because i compile with different version of gambas ??? From rizky at ...225... Wed Aug 20 10:54:45 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:54:45 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308141746.37902.Gambasfr@...11...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141200.50732.rizky@...225...> <200308141746.37902.Gambasfr@...11...> Message-ID: <200308201554.45084.rizky@...225...> hi fabien, i've tried your example script about the menu... i create a project and paste your code.. i'm using gambas 0.63 here are the codes that i've paste from your script: ' Gambas class file PRIVATE mnuTab AS Object[] 'to store the menu.id's PRIVATE mnuFile AS Menu PUBLIC SUB MenuCreating() DIM hMenu AS Menu DIM MnuParent AS Object mnuParent = ME mnuFile = NewMenu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" mnuFile.Text = "File" hMenu = NewMenu(hMenu) AS "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Open" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) hMenu = NewMenu(hMenu) AS "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Quit" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) PUBLIC SUB mnexit_Click() ME.CLOSE END PUBLIC SUB mnuEvent_Click() SELECT CASE LAST.Tag CASE 0 Dialog.OpenFile mnuTab[LAST.Tag].Enabled = FALSE 'This switch the menu open to not enabled! CASE 1 QUIT END but when i press F5 button, it raise error that pointed to these line : mnuFile = NewMenu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" the error is: "Syntax Error. End of line expected at line 10 in class Fmain.class" do you have the source of that example ? please attach... or is it because i compile with different version of gambas ??? From rizky at ...225... Wed Aug 20 11:14:33 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 16:14:33 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Editing table view In-Reply-To: <200308121029.21443.rizky@...225...> References: <200308110912.17897.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308121029.21443.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308201614.33177.rizky@...225...> how do i edit the data in a tableview cells ?? just like the tableview in gambas database manager, i can edit the data in that tableview... From rizky at ...225... Wed Aug 20 11:19:21 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 16:19:21 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Editing table view In-Reply-To: <200308121029.21443.rizky@...225...> References: <200308110912.17897.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308121029.21443.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308201619.21780.rizky@...225...> how do i edit the data in a tableview cells ?? just like the tableview in gambas database manager, i can edit the data in that tableview... From eng_ak at ...200... Wed Aug 20 11:09:11 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:09:11 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] sample component In-Reply-To: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> Message-ID: <3F433AB7.4080600@...200...> Well, didn't anyone write a component yet? If so, at least can someone show me how to use the example component by Benoit? Ahmad Kamal wrote: > Hi all, > > I have started writing the SDL component, I already have functions > working in C, but to wrap them up as a component is the difficult > part. Can anyone please send me any sample components he has written > so that I can learn from them? > Also, is this CExample sample component used in any example in GB? > > Thnx > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > From rizky at ...225... Wed Aug 20 10:43:04 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:43:04 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Log In-Reply-To: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> Message-ID: <200308201543.04762.rizky@...225...> hi, i wanna create a log list w/ gambas... i create the list w/ the textarea object... it is a simple log information.. actually it already can be used as a log info.. here is the example... i create a button and a textarea.. when i hit the button.. there is a "something word" in textarea... and when i hit the button again... the textarea will have 2 lines "something word"... the problem is when it already scollup, i can not see the last log.. so i must scroll down with my mouse... how do i do in gambas to make that textarea will always show to the last log, so i do not need to click with my mouse to scroll down ? From nigel at ...38... Wed Aug 20 09:21:22 2003 From: nigel at ...38... (nigel at ...38...) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 7:21:22 +0000 Subject: [Gambas-user] sample component Message-ID: <20030820072122.ZEJB28680.fep03-svc.ttys.com@...40...> Ahmad, I am currently away from home at the moment and needless to say, do not have access to my Linux system, but from memory, the example component does actually exist and can be used. Benoit has also included a fair bit of documentation around writing a component in the Wiki. The first component I worked on was CDial.cpp in lib/qt/ext...it it fairly simple and might help point you in the correct direction. In Benoit's holiday absence, I am more than willing to help...juggling the effort with the effort I actually get paid for :-). Nigel > > From: Ahmad Kamal > Date: Sun 17/Aug/2003 07:29 GMT > To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Gambas-user] sample component > > Hi all, > > I have started writing the SDL component, I already have functions > working in C, but to wrap them up as a component is the difficult part. > Can anyone please send me any sample components he has written so that I > can learn from them? > Also, is this CExample sample component used in any example in GB? > > Thnx > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > > __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. From eng_ak at ...200... Wed Aug 20 11:06:47 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:06:47 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Directorys.... In-Reply-To: <200308192241.h7JMfLQ21393@...224...> References: <200308192241.h7JMfLQ21393@...224...> Message-ID: <3F433A27.3090108@...200...> what if u exec "du" mephisto75 at ...20... wrote: >Does somebody know an easy way to find out the size of directorys ? >Or do I have to read out every file in the directory and its subdirectorys an add the sizes, that would be ugly. > >Thanx > >__________________________________________________________________________ >Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, >Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. >Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From >careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the >best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 >_______________________________________________ >Gambas-user mailing list >Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > > > From elentirmo at ...20... Wed Aug 20 12:21:22 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:21:22 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Directorys.... In-Reply-To: <200308192241.h7JMfLQ21393@...224...> References: <200308192241.h7JMfLQ21393@...224...> Message-ID: <200308201221.22492.elentirmo@...20...> Am Mittwoch, 20. August 2003 00:41 schrieb mephisto75 at ...20...: > Does somebody know an easy way to find out the size of directorys ? > Or do I have to read out every file in the directory and its subdirectorys > an add the sizes, that would be ugly. > > Thanx Hi, the command 'du -s' gives you the size of the current directory with all of its subdirectories. You could call EXEC ["du", "-s"] FOR READ and evaluate the output via Process_Write. Hope this helps. Marco From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 20 15:40:28 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:40:28 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Editing table view In-Reply-To: <200308201619.21780.rizky@...225...> References: <200308121029.21443.rizky@...225...> <200308201619.21780.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308200927.52591.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 05:19, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > how do i edit the data in a tableview cells ?? > just like the tableview in gambas database manager, i can edit the data in > that tableview... read the source for gambas database manager? Looks like Benoit wrote a class called CTableViewEditor that he attaches to the TableView and handles all the editing with it. You could reuse it in your own project pretty easily (maybe even with the USE command, though I don't know whether Benoit's class is totally free of database stuff...) Rob From mephisto75 at ...20... Wed Aug 20 14:47:50 2003 From: mephisto75 at ...20... (Stephan Gans) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:47:50 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Directorys.... Message-ID: <200308201247.h7KCloQ10255@...224...> I need the size of directorys within variables. Any idea how I get the results of du into one or more variables ? gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net schrieb am 20.08.03 13:54:06: > > what if u exec "du" > > > > mephisto75 at ...20... wrote: > > >Does somebody know an easy way to find out the size of directorys ? > >Or do I have to read out every file in the directory and its subdirectorys an add the sizes, that would be ugly. > > > >Thanx > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ > >Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, > >Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > >Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From > >careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the > >best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 > >_______________________________________________ > >Gambas-user mailing list > >Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From > careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the > best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user __________________________________________________________________________ Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 20 15:39:36 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:39:36 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Log In-Reply-To: <200308201543.04762.rizky@...225...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> <200308201543.04762.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308200939.36795.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 04:43, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > the problem is when it already scollup, i can not see the last log.. so i > must scroll down with my mouse... how do i do in gambas to make that > textarea will always show to the last log, so i do not need to click with > my mouse to scroll down ? Take a look at this.... http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasComponentQtTextAreaPosExport Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 20 15:31:21 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:31:21 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Directorys.... In-Reply-To: <200308192241.h7JMfLQ21393@...224...> References: <200308192241.h7JMfLQ21393@...224...> Message-ID: <200308200931.21566.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Tuesday 19 August 2003 18:41, mephisto75 at ...20... wrote: > Does somebody know an easy way to find out the size of directorys ? > Or do I have to read out every file in the directory and its subdirectorys > an add the sizes, that would be ugly. It'd be the right way to do it, though. On the other hand, the fast way to do it would be to shell out to "du -sck" to get the result in kilobytes (-scm for megabytes, I think -scb for bytes.) Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 20 15:20:46 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:20:46 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308201555.51613.rizky@...225...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141746.37902.Gambasfr@...11...> <200308201555.51613.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308200920.46255.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 04:55, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > mnuFile = NewMenu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" Typo... needs to be: mnuFile = New Menu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 20 15:20:46 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:20:46 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308201555.51613.rizky@...225...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308141746.37902.Gambasfr@...11...> <200308201555.51613.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308200920.46255.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 04:55, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > mnuFile = NewMenu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" Typo... needs to be: mnuFile = New Menu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 20 17:28:46 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:28:46 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Directorys.... In-Reply-To: <200308192241.h7JMfLQ21393@...224...> References: <200308192241.h7JMfLQ21393@...224...> Message-ID: <200308200931.21566.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Tuesday 19 August 2003 18:41, mephisto75 at ...20... wrote: > Does somebody know an easy way to find out the size of directorys ? > Or do I have to read out every file in the directory and its subdirectorys > an add the sizes, that would be ugly. It'd be the right way to do it, though. On the other hand, the fast way to do it would be to shell out to "du -sck" to get the result in kilobytes (-scm for megabytes, I think -scb for bytes.) You can get the output in the Process_Write event. Rob From elentirmo at ...20... Wed Aug 20 09:34:44 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:34:44 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas In-Reply-To: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> References: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308200934.44294.elentirmo@...20...> Hi, I have compiled gambas 0.63 with the option --disable-db-component on my SuSE 8.2 (no update, with qt 3.1.2 and KDE 3.1.3) and everything worked perfectly well. Compiling and installing gambas 0.64a with the option --disable-db-component on the same system also worked for me. But on the execution of any program I got the error message "The program stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11...". Gruss Marco From elentirmo at ...20... Thu Aug 21 07:49:13 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:49:13 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas In-Reply-To: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> References: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308210749.14110.elentirmo@...20...> Hi, I have compiled gambas 0.63 with the option --disable-db-component on my SuSE 8.2 (no update, with qt 3.1.2 and KDE 3.1.3) and everything worked perfectly well. Compiling and installing gambas 0.64a with the option --disable-db-component on the same system also worked for me. But on the execution of any program I got the error message "The program stopped unexpectedly by raising signal #11...". Gruss Marco From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Fri Aug 22 07:44:59 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:44:59 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas In-Reply-To: <200308200934.44294.elentirmo@...20...> References: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> <200308200934.44294.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <200308220144.59908.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 03:34, Marco Bauer wrote: > execution of any program I got the error message "The program stopped > unexpectedly by raising signal #11...". Here's a reported workaround... seems to be a common Suse problem with this release. Don't worry, Benoit will be back before long ;) On Wednesday 13 August 2003 17:09, Mike Keehan wrote: > I found that I had to install Gambas into a clean directory. > Installing over a previous version left some old libraries in the lib > directory that caused the Sig 11. > > Just renamed /opt/gambas and re-installed worked for me. > > Another problem I found was that the editor component in one of my > existing projects was being reported as "Project.RefreshLibrary.1650: > #12: Not an object". I had to remove the line "Library=gb.qt.editor" > from the .project file and then change the field to a textarea. Not > sure if this is a Gambas or a QT problem at the moment. > > Mike. > From rizky at ...225... Fri Aug 22 07:53:18 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:53:18 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308200920.46255.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308201555.51613.rizky@...225...> <200308200920.46255.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308210826.53186.rizky@...225...> ' Gambas class file PRIVATE mnuTab AS Object[] 'to store the menu.id's PRIVATE mnuFile AS Menu PUBLIC SUB MenuCreating() DIM hMenu AS Menu DIM MnuParent AS Object mnuParent = ME mnuFile = NEW Menu(MnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" mnuFile.Text = "File" hMenu = NEW Menu(hMenu) AS "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Open" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) hMenu = NEW Menu(hMenu) AS "MnuEvent" hMenu.Text = "Quit" hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count mnuTab.Add(hMenu) PUBLIC SUB mnexit_Click() ME.CLOSE END PUBLIC SUB mnuEvent_Click() SELECT CASE LAST.Tag CASE 0 Dialog.OpenFile mnuTab[LAST.Tag].Enabled = FALSE 'This switch the menu open to not enabled! CASE 1 QUIT END yeah that's ok.. may be i miss that space but now when i compiled again, it still raise error in line 23, that is pointed to : PUBLIC SUB mnexit_Click() the error is: "Syntax Error at line 23 in Fmain.class" what else could be wrong ?? sorry to ask about this all the time.. i just wanna know gambas more and more.. 'coz i'm a newbie in gambas and in linux too... On Wednesday 20 August 2003 20:20, Rob wrote: > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 04:55, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > > mnuFile = NewMenu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" > > Typo... needs to be: > > mnuFile = New Menu(mnuParent) AS "MnuFileEvent" > > Rob > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. > Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From > careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the > best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code4 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Fri Aug 22 07:49:00 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:49:00 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] double posts, delayed posts Message-ID: <200308220149.00211.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> I have noticed people resubmitting posts a lot lately.... I've done it myself. Looking at Marco's last post, the Sourceforge servers sat on it for 6 hours before delivering it. One of mine from a couple days ago took 18 hours! It's probably due to that Windows SoBig worm or something, but the best thing to do if you don't think your post has gone through is wait a day or so to see if it shows up.... it's not like sending another message is gonna make the first go any faster. Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Fri Aug 22 07:53:26 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:53:26 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308210826.53186.rizky@...225...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308200920.46255.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308210826.53186.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308220153.26545.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Friday 22 August 2003 01:53, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: ... > hMenu = NEW Menu(hMenu) AS "MnuEvent" > hMenu.Text = "Quit" > hMenu.Tag = mnuTab.Count > mnuTab.Add(hMenu) > > PUBLIC SUB mnexit_Click() > ME.CLOSE > END > > what else could be wrong ?? You forgot the END in the sub before mnexit_Click(). (I think it's MenuCreating()...) I bet you just accidentally deleted it while editing code, I've done that. In this case it's easy to overlook because the entire MenuCreating() sub isn't indented. Rob From elentirmo at ...20... Fri Aug 22 09:26:19 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:26:19 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas In-Reply-To: <200308220144.59908.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> <200308200934.44294.elentirmo@...20...> <200308220144.59908.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308220926.19616.elentirmo@...20...> Unfortunatly this won't work for me, I still got sig #11. But thanks for the hint. Gruss Marco Am Freitag, 22. August 2003 07:44 schrieb Rob: > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 03:34, Marco Bauer wrote: > > execution of any program I got the error message "The program stopped > > unexpectedly by raising signal #11...". > > Here's a reported workaround... seems to be a common Suse problem with this > release. Don't worry, Benoit will be back before long ;) > > On Wednesday 13 August 2003 17:09, Mike Keehan wrote: > > I found that I had to install Gambas into a clean directory. > > Installing over a previous version left some old libraries in the lib > > directory that caused the Sig 11. > > > > Just renamed /opt/gambas and re-installed worked for me. > > > > Another problem I found was that the editor component in one of my > > existing projects was being reported as "Project.RefreshLibrary.1650: > > #12: Not an object". I had to remove the line "Library=gb.qt.editor" > > from the .project file and then change the field to a textarea. Not > > sure if this is a Gambas or a QT problem at the moment. > > > > Mike. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware > With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. > WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines > at the same time. Free trial click > here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From elentirmo at ...20... Thu Aug 21 20:51:24 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:51:24 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] problems with mailinglist Message-ID: <200308212051.24880.elentirmo@...20...> Hello mailinglist, is there someone else experiencing problems with the mailinglist. It seems that two of the mails I did send to the list didn't get there while others seem to arrive in my kmail with a huge time delay. Marco From newsletters at ...232... Fri Aug 22 22:03:56 2003 From: newsletters at ...232... (Willi Mann) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:03:56 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: No way to compile on mixed Debian system .. SOLVED In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F46772C.6080807@...232...> > > CC=gcc-3.2 > CPP=gcc-3.2 > CXX=g++-3.2 The right set of environment vars is CXX=g++-3.2 CXXCPP=cpp-3.2 CPP=cpp-3.2 CC=gcc-3.2 Willi Mann From eng_ak at ...200... Thu Aug 21 08:46:35 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:46:35 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] sample component In-Reply-To: <20030820072122.ZEJB28680.fep03-svc.ttys.com@...40...> References: <20030820072122.ZEJB28680.fep03-svc.ttys.com@...40...> Message-ID: <3F446ACB.8060101@...200...> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wizardmansite at ...43... Sat Aug 23 04:01:45 2003 From: wizardmansite at ...43... (Devilyn) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gambas-user] RPG Board Message-ID: <20030823020145.27037.qmail@...238...> Hello, Ok I want to make a tile based board. So I figure I would use a image box or picture box. So I figure that if I made a array the size of a small box maybe 32X32. with diffrent numbers in it to hold values.. like 1 for tile A, 2 for tile B, 3 for tile C. Now I know in Microsoft Visual Basic you use the API call BITBLT to cut out one tile at a time out of a tileset like a big .bmp file with about 26 tiles in it. In Gambas is it possible or do I have to cut all my tiles into peices. So I have 1 tile in each .bmp file. Also what do I have to do to put the tiles in a picture box using a array? This is just a start for me. If anyone knows or can make a small demo with this It would be of a great help. I have no Idea how to paste several difftrent tiles into a picture box with gambas. If I can make a small board out of several tiles and save the array number deal into a text file it can be used in a game that is 2d tile based. but how is it done? Devilyn --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kphelan at ...229... Sat Aug 23 05:41:06 2003 From: kphelan at ...229... (Ken Phelan) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:41:06 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] SuSE 8.2 and Gambas In-Reply-To: <200308121516.17709.kphelan@...229...> References: <200308121625.37862.gambas@...2...> <200308121516.17709.kphelan@...229...> Message-ID: <200308222341.06133.kphelan@...229...> On Tuesday 12 August 2003 03:16 pm, Ken Phelan wrote: > > Version 2.4.20-96 kernel updated from the stock distribution kernel > 2.4.20-39 > > I'm running on an 700 MHz Intel PIII Coppermine with 384 megs ram and an > nVidia RIVA TNT2 Model 64 card using nVidia's driver 1.0-4363 with 3D > enabled Update: I've upgraded to the latest SuSE 8.2 kernel 2.3.20-100. In so doing, the nVidia driver 1.0-4363 was removed with an alert informing me that I'd have to reinstall the driver. So I'm running with the stock 'nv' driver at this time. I decided to take Gambas for a spin before d/loading and installing the nVidia driver. Gambas now compiles and executes all the example programs! I'll keep the list posted after I install the nVidia driver. From secmon at ...169... Sat Aug 23 10:52:28 2003 From: secmon at ...169... (Henry Ismaili) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 18:52:28 +1000 Subject: [Gambas-user] Tableview Message-ID: <200308231852.28282.secmon@...169...> Is it possible to have different colours for each row displayed ? Henry. From ronstk at ...239... Sat Aug 23 18:02:34 2003 From: ronstk at ...239... (R Onstenk) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 18:02:34 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: SuSE 8.2 and Gambas Message-ID: <000001c3698f$f7075ac0$2101a8c0@...240...> Hi, I have compiled gambas 0.63 with the option --disable-db-component on my SuSE 8.2 (no update, just qt 3.1.1 and KDE 3.1.1) and everything worked perfectly well. System: Asus barebone Terminator, Intel Celeron 2200Mc I got a db error message at begin of ./configure script. This was corrected with the --disable-db-component option. Then I tried it again and in the very last pass I get a new error. It could not find libqt-mt.so , it was looking in the /usr/lib map and there was only libqt-mt.so.3 as a symlink to /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.1 Adding a symlink libqt-mt.so to it was solving that problem. It is now working and I like it very much. It's almost I wish. There is however an other error in the beginning of configure. c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I../../../../src/share -I/usr/lib /qt3/include/ -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -g -O0 -c main.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o main.lo /usr/lib/qt3/include//../bin/moc CLCDNumber.h -o moc_CLCDNumber.cpp CLCDNumber.h:0: Warning: No relevant classes found. No output generated. /bin/sh ../../../../libtool --mode=compile c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I../../../../src/share -I/usr/lib /qt3/include/ -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -g -O0 -c moc_CLCDNumber.cpp Because I am a newbie for C programming I do not understand all of this stuff. The part i am afraid for is the warning message. I did the following in the root map of gambas (/usr/local/src/gambas-0.63) ./configure --disable-db-component ./make ./make install About the c++ line above here i give my understanding of it First I think it are 2 c++ lines The idented are clear options however the why are there so much -I options? But in the first line i am lost for the /usr/lib/qt3 and warning part. c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I../../../../src/share -I/usr/lib/qt3/include/ -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -g -O0 -c main.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o main.lo /usr/lib/qt3/include//../bin/moc CLCDNumber.h -o moc_CLCDNumber.cpp CLCDNumber.h:0: Warning: No relevant classes found. No output generated. /bin/sh ../../../../libtool --mode=compile c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I../../../../src/share -I/usr/lib/qt3/include/ -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -g -O0 -c moc_CLCDNumber.cpp I know, RTFM, but SuSE installs with Yast and after it has finish the install it close directly without a message where it is installed. So I did install there documentation about the directory structure but never found it. They change the old(default) directoy structure to a new one but did not update the documentation that was re-aranged. Wel this must be the end for now, I hope to get some explanation about the compiler warning and how I can update to KDE 3.1.3. Next one will be shorter, I have to find my way for now. ---------- Ron O. From Gambasfr at ...11... Sat Aug 23 21:18:42 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:18:42 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] RPG Board In-Reply-To: <20030823020145.27037.qmail@...238...> References: <20030823020145.27037.qmail@...238...> Message-ID: <200308232118.43106.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Samedi 23 Ao?t 2003 04:01, Devilyn a ?crit : > Hello, > Ok I want to make a tile based board. So I figure I would use a image box > or picture box. So I figure that if I made a array the size of a small box > maybe 32X32. with diffrent numbers in it to hold values.. like 1 for tile > A, 2 for tile B, 3 for tile C. Now I know in Microsoft Visual Basic you use > the API call BITBLT to cut out one tile at a time out of a tileset like a > big .bmp file with about 26 tiles in it. In Gambas is it possible or do I > have to cut all my tiles into peices. So I have 1 tile in each .bmp file. > Also what do I have to do to put the tiles in a picture box using a array? > This is just a start for me. If anyone knows or can make a small demo with > this It would be of a great help. I have no Idea how to paste several > difftrent tiles into a picture box with gambas. If I can make a small board > out of several tiles and save the array number deal into a text file it can > be used in a game that is 2d tile based. but how is it done? Devilyn > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software You can use an Static array of picture to store it : Dim TabPic[2] as Picture Dim GreatPic as Picture TabPic[0] = Picture["pic1.png"] TabPic[1] = Picture["pic2.png"] TabPic[2] = Picture["pic3.png"] GreatPic.Type = Picture.Pixmap GreatPic.Resize(96,96) Draw.Begin(GreatPic) For j = 0 to 2 For i = 0 to 2 Draw.Picture(TabPic[i], 32*i, 32*j) Next Next Draw.End Draw.Begin(ME) Draw.Picture(GreatPic, 0, 0) Draw.End *****See 'Draw' in the wiki help and 'picture' class Fabien Bodard From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 23 21:55:36 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:55:36 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] 2 Questions... In-Reply-To: <200308161350.h7GDowQ01290@...224...> References: <200308161350.h7GDowQ01290@...224...> Message-ID: <200308232155.36155.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 16 Ao?t 2003 15:50, mephisto75 at ...20... a ?crit : > I'm working on a projekt in gambas and during the development I ran into 2 > problems and don't know how to solve them. > > 1st : I already managed to find out, if a file or directory is a > symbolic link with: IF Stat ([Path]) = gb.Link THEN > .... > End If > But how do I find out the target of a symbolic Link ? > I'm sorry, but not all POSIX functions were implemented in the Gambas instructions, because they did not exist in older BASIC. And I didn't find time to finish this part of the job... Do Gambas people think this should be done for the 1.0 version ? -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 23 22:02:52 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:02:52 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Directorys.... In-Reply-To: <200308201247.h7KCloQ10255@...224...> References: <200308201247.h7KCloQ10255@...224...> Message-ID: <200308232202.52826.gambas@...2...> Le Mercredi 20 Ao?t 2003 14:47, Stephan Gans a ?crit : > I need the size of directorys within variables. > Any idea how I get the results of du into one or more variables ? > > gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net schrieb am 20.08.03 13:54:06: > > what if u exec "du" > > > > mephisto75 at ...20... wrote: > > >Does somebody know an easy way to find out the size of directorys ? > > >Or do I have to read out every file in the directory and its > > > subdirectorys an add the sizes, that would be ugly. > > > > > >Thanx > > > Try something like that: sTemp = Temp$() SHELL "du ... > " & sTemp WAIT ' Replace ... with the right options iSize = Val(File.Load(sTemp)) -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 23 22:08:25 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:08:25 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] RPG Board In-Reply-To: <20030823020145.27037.qmail@...238...> References: <20030823020145.27037.qmail@...238...> Message-ID: <200308232208.25772.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 23 Ao?t 2003 04:01, Devilyn a ?crit : > Hello, > Ok I want to make a tile based board. So I figure I would use a image box > or picture box. So I figure that if I made a array the size of a small box > maybe 32X32. with diffrent numbers in it to hold values.. like 1 for tile > A, 2 for tile B, 3 for tile C. Now I know in Microsoft Visual Basic you use > the API call BITBLT to cut out one tile at a time out of a tileset like a > big .bmp file with about 26 tiles in it. In Gambas is it possible or do I > have to cut all my tiles into peices. So I have 1 tile in each .bmp file. > Also what do I have to do to put the tiles in a picture box using a array? > This is just a start for me. If anyone knows or can make a small demo with > this It would be of a great help. I have no Idea how to paste several > difftrent tiles into a picture box with gambas. If I can make a small board > out of several tiles and save the array number deal into a text file it can > be used in a game that is 2d tile based. but how is it done? Devilyn > > Try something like that: ' 1) Create a cached DrawingArea named "MyDrawingArea" ' 2) Create a Timer that regularly calls the following code ' 3) Put all your tiles in one bitmap file (don't use bmp, use png) Draw.Begin(MyDrawingArea) ' Draw one tile X = CalcXFromTileIndex(TileIndex) Y = CalcYFromTileIndex(TileIndex) Draw.Picture(TilePicture, X, Y, SrcX, SrcY, TileWidth, TileHeight) ' Repeat the previous for each board ... Draw.End Of course, if you want speed, you must use C ! :-) -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 23 22:20:19 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:20:19 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Return from holidays ! Message-ID: <200308232220.19702.gambas@...2...> Hi everyone, I'm back from holidays. I was...hem... happy to have almost 200 gambas mails to read, the mailing-lists included. I tried to answer as many mails as possible. Tomorrow, I will try to solve the boring crash of the interpreter on many systems (the crash in 'uselocale'). Note: the sig 11 is only the signal number for a "segmentation fault", i.e. an illegal memory access due to a bug somewhere. I have to modify the web site to add a "gambas fundation" part too. Next week, I'm going to know if I'm fire or not, and I will finish my move to Paris. Then, I will start theatre from 04 Sep with a lot of job in the view. So, I will be able to spend little time on gambas. I will just concentrate on making a 1.0 version. As for an article on Gambas, I think it is a good idea on doing it in common, via the mailing-list or the wiki, so that everybody can give its opinion, and I can fix mistakes ;-) Best regards to everybody, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From Gambasfr at ...11... Sat Aug 23 22:54:24 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:54:24 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] 2 Questions... In-Reply-To: <200308232155.36155.gambas@...2...> References: <200308161350.h7GDowQ01290@...224...> <200308232155.36155.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308232254.24334.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Samedi 23 Ao?t 2003 21:55, Benoit Minisini a ?crit : > Le Samedi 16 Ao?t 2003 15:50, mephisto75 at ...20... a ?crit : > > I'm working on a projekt in gambas and during the development I ran into > > 2 problems and don't know how to solve them. > > > > 1st : I already managed to find out, if a file or directory is a > > symbolic link with: IF Stat ([Path]) = gb.Link THEN > > .... > > End If > > But how do I find out the target of a symbolic Link ? > > I'm sorry, but not all POSIX functions were implemented in the Gambas > instructions, because they did not exist in older BASIC. > > And I didn't find time to finish this part of the job... > > Do Gambas people think this should be done for the 1.0 version ? Yes, because, i use lot of links on my system .., it will be usefull! Fabien From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sat Aug 23 23:00:13 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 17:00:13 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] 2 Questions... In-Reply-To: <200308232155.36155.gambas@...2...> References: <200308161350.h7GDowQ01290@...224...> <200308232155.36155.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308231700.13918.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Saturday 23 August 2003 15:55, Benoit Minisini wrote: > I'm sorry, but not all POSIX functions were implemented in the Gambas > instructions, because they did not exist in older BASIC. It seems like that stuff could be implemented in its own component to save Gambas' core language from becoming too Unixy, if that's a concern... Rob From karl.reinl at ...9... Sat Aug 23 23:26:32 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:26:32 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] 2 Questions... References: <200308161350.h7GDowQ01290@...224...> <200308232155.36155.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <3F47DC08.4090808@...9...> Benoit Minisini schrieb: >Le Samedi 16 Ao?t 2003 15:50, mephisto75 at ...20... a ?crit : > > >>I'm working on a projekt in gambas and during the development I ran into 2 >>problems and don't know how to solve them. >> >>1st : I already managed to find out, if a file or directory is a >>symbolic link with: IF Stat ([Path]) = gb.Link THEN >>.... >>End If >>But how do I find out the target of a symbolic Link ? >> >> >> > >I'm sorry, but not all POSIX functions were implemented in the Gambas >instructions, because they did not exist in older BASIC. > >And I didn't find time to finish this part of the job... > >Do Gambas people think this should be done for the 1.0 version ? > > That would be great , I think for my very old problem to use written and tested parts as link in an other project and if I make changes on so they could saved at ther origine place. Charlie From gambas at ...2... Sun Aug 24 20:37:22 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 20:37:22 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Signal #11 problem Message-ID: <200308242037.22736.gambas@...2...> Can someone having the signal #11 problem with gambas 0.64a give me an access to its machine via telnet or ssh ? Thanks in advance, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sun Aug 24 20:38:14 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 20:38:14 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] 2 Questions... In-Reply-To: <3F47DC08.4090808@...9...> References: <200308161350.h7GDowQ01290@...224...> <200308232155.36155.gambas@...2...> <3F47DC08.4090808@...9...> Message-ID: <200308242038.14179.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 23 Ao?t 2003 23:26, Charlie a ?crit : > Benoit Minisini schrieb: > >Le Samedi 16 Ao?t 2003 15:50, mephisto75 at ...20... a ?crit : > >>I'm working on a projekt in gambas and during the development I ran into > >> 2 problems and don't know how to solve them. > >> > >>1st : I already managed to find out, if a file or directory is a > >>symbolic link with: IF Stat ([Path]) = gb.Link THEN > >>.... > >>End If > >>But how do I find out the target of a symbolic Link ? > > > >I'm sorry, but not all POSIX functions were implemented in the Gambas > >instructions, because they did not exist in older BASIC. > > > >And I didn't find time to finish this part of the job... > > > >Do Gambas people think this should be done for the 1.0 version ? > > That would be great , I think for my very old problem to use written and > tested parts as link in an other > project and if I make changes on so they could saved at ther origine place. > > Charlie > > You can use libraries now, Charlie, with the USE keyword. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From nferraz at ...184... Sun Aug 24 17:37:42 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 24 Aug 2003 12:37:42 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Return from holidays ! In-Reply-To: <200308232220.19702.gambas@...2...> References: <200308232220.19702.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <1061739461.672.13.camel@...57...> > Hi everyone, > > I'm back from holidays. Welcome back! We missed you! :) > As for an article on Gambas, I think it is a good idea on doing it in common, > via the mailing-list or the wiki, so that everybody can give its opinion, and > I can fix mistakes ;-) We're currently working on the wiki, but we could bring the discussions to the mailing list... []s Nelson From gambas at ...2... Sun Aug 24 21:16:15 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:16:15 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Return from holidays ! In-Reply-To: <1061739461.672.13.camel@...57...> References: <200308232220.19702.gambas@...2...> <1061739461.672.13.camel@...57...> Message-ID: <200308242116.15441.gambas@...2...> Le Dimanche 24 Ao?t 2003 17:37, Nelson Ferraz a ?crit : > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm back from holidays. > > Welcome back! We missed you! :) > > > As for an article on Gambas, I think it is a good idea on doing it in > > common, via the mailing-list or the wiki, so that everybody can give its > > opinion, and I can fix mistakes ;-) > > We're currently working on the wiki, but we could bring the discussions > to the mailing list... > > []s > > Nelson > OK. I didn't see the wiki page. Stay on the wiki, it is far more practical ! -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From fj.cruz at ...179... Sun Aug 24 22:29:29 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:29:29 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Signal #11 problem In-Reply-To: <200308242037.22736.gambas@...2...> References: <200308242037.22736.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308242229.29954.fj.cruz@...179...> El Domingo, 24 de Agosto de 2003 20:37, Benoit Minisini escribi?: > Can someone having the signal #11 problem with gambas 0.64a give me an > access to its machine via telnet or ssh ? > > Thanks in advance, Hi, Benoit Wellcome back :). I'm using a transformed Mandrake 9.1 and i have the signal #11 problem, so if I can help you with a ssh access to my machine, only tell it me. Chau. -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From elentirmo at ...20... Mon Aug 25 08:54:22 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:54:22 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Signal #11 problem In-Reply-To: <200308242037.22736.gambas@...2...> References: <200308242037.22736.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308250854.22267.elentirmo@...20...> Am Sonntag, 24. August 2003 20:37 schrieb Benoit Minisini: > Can someone having the signal #11 problem with gambas 0.64a give me an > access to its machine via telnet or ssh ? > > Thanks in advance, Hi Benoit, I'm also experiencing the problem with signal #11 on my SuSE 8.2/KDE 3.1.3/qt 3.1.2. So if you want to investigate it I can grant you access to my system, but I must admitt that I have no clue how to do it. Gruss Marco From gambas at ...2... Mon Aug 25 23:46:54 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:46:54 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a and Signal #11 problem Message-ID: <200308252346.54502.gambas@...2...> Here is a patch that fixes the signal #11 problem. It seems that the Linux dynamic libraries loader does not like when the environment variable LD_PRELOAD is set to a null string - except on my own computer ! Replace the gambas-0.64a/src/exec/CProcess.c file by the one joined to this mail. Note that this patch can't compile on Solaris - It uses a GlibC function that Solaris don't have. I must take time to rewrite this function for Solaris, and it takes a little time. Tell me if everything works correctly now... -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CProcess.c Type: text/x-csrc Size: 11791 bytes Desc: not available URL: From karl.reinl at ...9... Mon Aug 25 23:06:16 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:06:16 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Signal #11 problem References: <200308242037.22736.gambas@...2...> <200308250854.22267.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <3F4A7A48.4080706@...9...> Marco Bauer schrieb: >Am Sonntag, 24. August 2003 20:37 schrieb Benoit Minisini: > > >>Can someone having the signal #11 problem with gambas 0.64a give me an >>access to its machine via telnet or ssh ? >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >> > >Hi Benoit, > >I'm also experiencing the problem with signal #11 on my SuSE 8.2/KDE 3.1.3/qt >3.1.2. So if you want to investigate it I can grant you access to my system, >but I must admitt that I have no clue how to do it. > Isn't there something in KDE ( saw it in my gentoo box) or VNC (think it'S alos in SuSE) > >Gruss >Marco > > From karl.reinl at ...9... Mon Aug 25 23:30:08 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:30:08 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Signal #11 problem References: <200308242037.22736.gambas@...2...> <200308250854.22267.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <3F4A7FE0.8070400@...9...> Marco Bauer schrieb: >Am Sonntag, 24. August 2003 20:37 schrieb Benoit Minisini: > > >>Can someone having the signal #11 problem with gambas 0.64a give me an >>access to its machine via telnet or ssh ? >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >> > >Hi Benoit, > >I'm also experiencing the problem with signal #11 on my SuSE 8.2/KDE 3.1.3/qt >3.1.2. So if you want to investigate it I can grant you access to my system, >but I must admitt that I have no clue how to do it. > > Sorry, send the last email to quick. On KDE 3.1.x thats called 'Desktop shearing' (Arbeitsfl?che freigeben) = krfb , using VNC you can send a email from that program with the IP and the PW and waiting for the connetion, the invitation is for 1 houre. You see the IP of the Box who will connect, and you have the choice whats follows. You can see all what is done on your screen. The other side has to have a VNC installed, VNC can use his own or a Web-browser interface. >Gruss >Marco > > From rizky at ...225... Tue Aug 26 03:43:18 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:43:18 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Log In-Reply-To: <200308200939.36795.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> <200308201543.04762.rizky@...225...> <200308200939.36795.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308260843.18442.rizky@...225...> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 20:39, Rob wrote: > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 04:43, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > > the problem is when it already scollup, i can not see the last log.. so i > > must scroll down with my mouse... how do i do in gambas to make that > > textarea will always show to the last log, so i do not need to click with > > my mouse to scroll down ? > > Take a look at this.... > > http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasComponentQtTextArea >PosExport > > Rob > i got this error when i accessed that site: ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved From rizky at ...225... Tue Aug 26 04:33:24 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:33:24 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Log In-Reply-To: <200308260843.18442.rizky@...225...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> <200308200939.36795.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308260843.18442.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308260933.24656.rizky@...225...> On Tuesday 26 August 2003 08:43, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 20:39, Rob wrote: > > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 04:43, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > > > the problem is when it already scollup, i can not see the last log.. so > > > i must scroll down with my mouse... how do i do in gambas to make that > > > textarea will always show to the last log, so i do not need to click > > > with my mouse to scroll down ? > > > > Take a look at this.... > > > > http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasComponentQtTextAr > >ea PosExport > > > > Rob > > i got this error when i accessed that site: > > ERROR > The requested URL could not be retrieved > yeah.. i download the offline tutorial for the gambas in that site.. when i extract it, the address should be /GambasComponentQtTextAreaPosExport.html (CMIIW) when i open it, the containt is like this: TextArea.Pos PROPERTY Pos AS Integer Returns or sets the cursor position, in characters from the beginning of the text. Referenced by: TextArea _(class)_ is that correct ?? if yes.. i've tried to add the statement in the button.. so when i pressed the button after it write down to the textarea, i add the code: Message.Info(textarea.pos) but, it always raise the result 0 (zero)... so how do i make the textarea to be scroll down automaticly ? beside... the manual is a little bit confused me... 'coz the explaination not much... (sorry to have a critic for the tutorial, it got take some time to understand it, may be for a beginner like me it realy take a lot of time to get understand) From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Tue Aug 26 04:34:01 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:34:01 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Log In-Reply-To: <200308260843.18442.rizky@...225...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> <200308200939.36795.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308260843.18442.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308252234.01383.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Monday 25 August 2003 21:43, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > > http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/GambasComponentQtTextAr > >ea PosExport > i got this error when i accessed that site: > ERROR > The requested URL could not be retrieved Can you get to the gambas wiki at all? http://www.binara.com/gambas-wiki/bin/view/Gambas/ If you can, look up the Pos property of the TextArea object in the Qt component. Is anyone else having trouble accessing the Gambas documentation wiki? Rob From rizky at ...225... Tue Aug 26 05:11:56 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:11:56 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab Index In-Reply-To: <200308252234.01383.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> <200308260843.18442.rizky@...225...> <200308252234.01383.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308261011.57015.rizky@...225...> In visual basic there is always property Tab Index.. so when the user press tab, the cursor will flow sequential with the number of the Tab Index.. why in gambas there isn't any that property ?? so when i wanna to make an order of it i must cut the object and paste it... and so on till i got the correct tab sequence.... this make programming more difficult... please consider it Benoit... From rizky at ...225... Tue Aug 26 05:29:48 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:29:48 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] the $ sign In-Reply-To: <200308261011.57015.rizky@...225...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> <200308252234.01383.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308261011.57015.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308261029.48753.rizky@...225...> some example there is a sign of $ what that use for ?? From wizardmansite at ...43... Tue Aug 26 12:04:25 2003 From: wizardmansite at ...43... (Devilyn) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 03:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gambas-user] Toolbox Message-ID: <20030826100425.68571.qmail@...241...> Ok I got Gambas 0.64a Running under SuSE Linux 8.2 pro.. So far works good. My question is how do I get more tools in the toolbox. It comes with some but I noticed in the pics you can have more tools like a Slider Control. How do I get more controls in the tool box? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From wizardmansite at ...43... Tue Aug 26 12:14:09 2003 From: wizardmansite at ...43... (Devilyn) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 03:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gambas-user] ToolBox Got it! Message-ID: <20030826101409.20981.qmail@...242...> Nevermind my last message I figured out how to get all the tools needed in the toolbox just missed it.. Anyway I am movein to a new house so on the 1st of the month I will begin makin my Board Editor for my RPG game. Devilyn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From ronstk at ...239... Tue Aug 26 16:10:19 2003 From: ronstk at ...239... (R Onstenk) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:10:19 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Control class missing a name and type property. ;) Message-ID: <000101c36bdb$c82e6740$2101a8c0@...240...> Hi Benoit, Let me introduce my self as Ron. I'm living in the Netherlands. My skils are programming the z80/8080/8085 cpu at assembly level and on m$ windows using VB. After installing from SuSE your version 0.44 I was very interested if Gambas was alive while many other 'basic' projects are more or less dead. If dead is no changes/updates or user request/response in the last 6 months. I did like the overall design of the project and hope it has the potential to be a real entry level for VB programmers to Linux. But i have a few commnents. I can't classify them as bugs or feature request but more as design corrections to contribute to the quality of Gambas. When I put a control on a form it's background is transparent. (textlabel) When I set a background color on it it shows nice but then I decide it must be the same as the form. How to set background transparent again? I'm missing a few properties on the Control Class. For the example Blinking Lights the led on/off procedure bits=rnd()*255 For Each ctrl in Me.Controls with ctrl if Left(.name) ="l" then if bits and 2^val(right(.name)) then ctrl.picture=picture("on") else ctrl.picture=picture("off") endif endif endwith next Doc says the following about the control/classes Form.Children: property Children as .ContainerChildren .ContainerChildren: returns a collection of each control (you can enum with FOR EACH...NEXT) Image: inherits 'Control' When I can use For Each how do I determine which control I have. In my example the ctrl should have at least a name property. It should have also a property which provide the Class or Type of the control. And shit again, I made again a long message, -------------- Ron [ I hate eating fish but for Gambas i like a this one] From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 26 14:48:09 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:48:09 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab Index In-Reply-To: <200308261011.57015.rizky@...225...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> <200308252234.01383.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308261011.57015.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308261448.09777.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 26 Ao?t 2003 05:11, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > In visual basic there is always property Tab Index.. > so when the user press tab, the cursor will flow sequential with the number > of the Tab Index.. why in gambas there isn't any that property ?? so when i > wanna to make an order of it i must cut the object and paste it... and so > on till i got the correct tab sequence.... this make programming more > difficult... please consider it Benoit... > > The tab order is the same as the Z order. You have two menus entry in the form popup menu to reorder a group of selected controls: Arrangement -> Arrange horizontally / vertically. Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 26 14:49:35 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:49:35 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] the $ sign In-Reply-To: <200308261029.48753.rizky@...225...> References: <3F3F2EDB.20607@...200...> <200308261011.57015.rizky@...225...> <200308261029.48753.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308261449.35832.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 26 Ao?t 2003 05:29, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > some example there is a sign of $ > what that use for ?? > > A symbol can begin with a '$', if it is the first character. I use it to distinguish global variables for local variables. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Tue Aug 26 17:59:47 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:59:47 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Control class missing a name and type property. ;) In-Reply-To: <000101c36bdb$c82e6740$2101a8c0@...240...> References: <000101c36bdb$c82e6740$2101a8c0@...240...> Message-ID: <200308261159.47671.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Tuesday 26 August 2003 10:10, R Onstenk wrote: > When I put a control on a form it's background is transparent. > (textlabel) When I set a background color on it it shows nice > but then I decide it must be the same as the form. How to set > background transparent again? Gambas uses Qt for all its controls, and Qt doesn't support transparent labels. There are a number of workarounds for C++ programmers in Qt but we don't know yet whether any of them will be suitable for inclusion in Gambas. What looks like transparency when you initially place the control is just an illusion caused by the form background being the same color as the control background. > When I can use For Each how do I determine which control I > have. In my example the ctrl should have at least a name > property. It should have also a property which provide the > Class or Type of the control. I agree, Gambas is missing those two properties in a big way. As a workaround you can use the Tag property to store whatever identifying information you need. Unfortunately, this is about the third or fourth workaround that uses the Tag property... pretty soon Benoit's gonna have to make Tag a variant so we can store user-defined classes in there, with all the stuff we're jamming into that one property ;) Now, ContainerChildren is a collection so maybe there's a way to somehow get a list of keys out of it (they should be strings) and maybe those keys will be useful in identifying controls. I haven't figured out how to do that though. Neither of those problems has prevented me from doing what I need to do with Gambas, thus far. Rob From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 26 21:39:05 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:39:05 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Control class missing a name and type property. ;) In-Reply-To: <200308261159.47671.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <000101c36bdb$c82e6740$2101a8c0@...240...> <200308261159.47671.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308262139.05372.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 26 Ao?t 2003 17:59, Rob a ?crit : > On Tuesday 26 August 2003 10:10, R Onstenk wrote: > > When I put a control on a form it's background is transparent. > > (textlabel) When I set a background color on it it shows nice > > but then I decide it must be the same as the form. How to set > > background transparent again? > > Gambas uses Qt for all its controls, and Qt doesn't support > transparent labels. There are a number of workarounds for C++ > programmers in Qt but we don't know yet whether any of them will > be suitable for inclusion in Gambas. What looks like > transparency when you initially place the control is just an > illusion caused by the form background being the same color as > the control background. Making "transparent" labels is too much work at the moment, because QT, contrary to GTK+, has no widget without windows. I admit that the behaviour of controls colors is not very clear in the IDE. I will change that. > > > When I can use For Each how do I determine which control I > > have. In my example the ctrl should have at least a name > > property. It should have also a property which provide the > > Class or Type of the control. > > I agree, Gambas is missing those two properties in a big way. As > a workaround you can use the Tag property to store whatever > identifying information you need. Unfortunately, this is about > the third or fourth workaround that uses the Tag property... To know the type of an object, use Object.Type(...). Controls don't have a name property because controls don't have names. This is an illusion from the IDE ! I know why people need control names, it is for doing awful things in general :-). > pretty soon Benoit's gonna have to make Tag a variant so we can > store user-defined classes in there, with all the stuff we're > jamming into that one property ;) Tag is already a Variant ! > > Now, ContainerChildren is a collection so maybe there's a way to > somehow get a list of keys out of it (they should be strings) > and maybe those keys will be useful in identifying controls. I > haven't figured out how to do that though. .ContainerChildren is not a true collection. It is an enumerable virtual class, in Gambas terminology. > > Neither of those problems has prevented me from doing what I need > to do with Gambas, thus far. So am I ! I hope I will succeed in changing old VB users habits :-) -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From nferraz at ...184... Tue Aug 26 22:50:09 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 26 Aug 2003 17:50:09 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Control class missing a name and type property. ;) In-Reply-To: <200308261159.47671.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <000101c36bdb$c82e6740$2101a8c0@...240...> <200308261159.47671.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <1061931010.849.10.camel@...185...> > > When I can use For Each how do I determine which control I > > have. In my example the ctrl should have at least a name > > property. It should have also a property which provide the > > Class or Type of the control. > > I agree, Gambas is missing those two properties in a big way. As > a workaround you can use the Tag property to store whatever > identifying information you need. Unfortunately, this is about One of the requests in Sourceforge is about introspection: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=789626&group_id=5417&atid=355417 I think this could be useful here. -- []s Nelson ________________________________________________________________ Nelson Ferraz GNU BIS: http://www.gnubis.com.br PhPerl: http://www.phperl.com From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 26 23:09:11 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:09:11 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Control class missing a name and type property. ;) In-Reply-To: <1061931010.849.10.camel@...185...> References: <000101c36bdb$c82e6740$2101a8c0@...240...> <200308261159.47671.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <1061931010.849.10.camel@...185...> Message-ID: <200308262309.11272.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 26 Ao?t 2003 22:50, Nelson Ferraz a ?crit : > > > When I can use For Each how do I determine which control I > > > have. In my example the ctrl should have at least a name > > > property. It should have also a property which provide the > > > Class or Type of the control. > > > > I agree, Gambas is missing those two properties in a big way. As > > a workaround you can use the Tag property to store whatever > > identifying information you need. Unfortunately, this is about > > One of the requests in Sourceforge is about introspection: > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=789626&group_id=54 >17&atid=355417 > > I think this could be useful here. You can already do introspection, with the Class and Symbol classes. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From nferraz at ...184... Tue Aug 26 23:02:06 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 26 Aug 2003 18:02:06 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Control class missing a name and type property. ;) In-Reply-To: <200308262139.05372.gambas@...2...> References: <000101c36bdb$c82e6740$2101a8c0@...240...> <200308261159.47671.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308262139.05372.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <1061931726.861.17.camel@...185...> > Controls don't have a name property because controls don't have names. This is > an illusion from the IDE ! > > I know why people need control names, it is for doing awful things in general > :-). Could you please develop on that? -- []s Nelson ________________________________________________________________ Nelson Ferraz GNU BIS: http://www.gnubis.com.br PhPerl: http://www.phperl.com From nferraz at ...184... Tue Aug 26 23:14:36 2003 From: nferraz at ...184... (Nelson Ferraz) Date: 26 Aug 2003 18:14:36 -0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] Control class missing a name and type property. ;) In-Reply-To: <200308262309.11272.gambas@...2...> References: <000101c36bdb$c82e6740$2101a8c0@...240...> <200308261159.47671.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <1061931010.849.10.camel@...185...> <200308262309.11272.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <1061932477.849.24.camel@...185...> > > One of the requests in Sourceforge is about introspection: > > You can already do introspection, with the Class and Symbol classes. Should we close the 789626 (Introspection) request? BTW, it suggests more questions that should be answed by objects: * What is your name? * What kind of object are you? * What do you know? * What can you do? * Who are your parents? -- []s Nelson ________________________________________________________________ Nelson Ferraz GNU BIS: http://www.gnubis.com.br PhPerl: http://www.phperl.com From fj.cruz at ...179... Tue Aug 26 23:22:34 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:22:34 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Error #11 (uselocale) Message-ID: <200308262322.34740.fj.cruz@...179...> Hi Benoit, You know i'm using Mandrake 9.1 with kernel 2.4.21 ;). If I try to work with a project that uses the Extended GUI Component - gb.qt.ext , I still get the error you know with de uselocale. If I don't select that component, the project work ok. Saludos. -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From gambas at ...2... Tue Aug 26 23:35:36 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:35:36 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Error #11 (uselocale) In-Reply-To: <200308262322.34740.fj.cruz@...179...> References: <200308262322.34740.fj.cruz@...179...> Message-ID: <200308262335.36256.gambas@...2...> Le Mardi 26 Ao?t 2003 23:22, F.J. Cruz a ?crit : > Hi Benoit, > > You know i'm using Mandrake 9.1 with kernel 2.4.21 ;). If I try to work > with a project that uses the Extended GUI Component - gb.qt.ext , I still > get the error you know with de uselocale. If I don't select that component, > the project work ok. > > Saludos. Even with the patch ? -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From elentirmo at ...20... Tue Aug 26 12:15:01 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:15:01 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a and Signal #11 problem In-Reply-To: <200308252346.54502.gambas@...2...> References: <200308252346.54502.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308261215.01608.elentirmo@...20...> Am Montag, 25. August 2003 23:46 schrieb Benoit Minisini: > Here is a patch that fixes the signal #11 problem. It seems that the Linux > dynamic libraries loader does not like when the environment variable > LD_PRELOAD is set to a null string - except on my own computer ! > > Replace the gambas-0.64a/src/exec/CProcess.c file by the one joined to this > mail. > > Note that this patch can't compile on Solaris - It uses a GlibC function > that Solaris don't have. I must take time to rewrite this function for > Solaris, and it takes a little time. > > Tell me if everything works correctly now... Works perfectly now. Ragards Marco Bauer From mephisto75 at ...20... Wed Aug 27 09:04:28 2003 From: mephisto75 at ...20... (mephisto75 at ...20...) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:04:28 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a and Signal #11 problem Message-ID: <200308270704.h7R74SQ06716@...224...> On SuSE 8.2 Gambas 0.64a Compiled and installed perfectly with: ./configure ./make ./make install There was "only" the Signal #11 Problem. With the new Process.c ./configure OK ./make OK ./make install OK But If you try to start it you get a Speicherzugriffsfehler (Segmentation Fault). So without patch it works partly, with patch it does not run at all. Does anybody else have this problem ? Regards gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net schrieb am 26.08.03 00:05:52: > > Here is a patch that fixes the signal #11 problem. It seems that the Linux > dynamic libraries loader does not like when the environment variable > LD_PRELOAD is set to a null string - except on my own computer ! > > Replace the gambas-0.64a/src/exec/CProcess.c file by the one joined to this > mail. > > Note that this patch can't compile on Solaris - It uses a GlibC function that > Solaris don't have. I must take time to rewrite this function for Solaris, > and it takes a little time. > > Tell me if everything works correctly now... > > -- > Benoit Minisini > mailto:gambas at ...1... __________________________________________________________________________ Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de From elentirmo at ...20... Wed Aug 27 09:56:38 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:56:38 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Toolbox In-Reply-To: <20030826100425.68571.qmail@...241...> References: <20030826100425.68571.qmail@...241...> Message-ID: <200308270956.38492.elentirmo@...20...> Am Dienstag, 26. August 2003 12:04 schrieb Devilyn: > Ok I got Gambas 0.64a Running under SuSE Linux 8.2 > pro.. So far works good. My question is how do I get > more tools in the toolbox. It comes with some but I > noticed in the pics you can have more tools like a > Slider Control. How do I get more controls in the tool > box? > Go to 'Project > Properties...' and there to the 'Components' tab. Here you can activate the gb.qt.ext (which includes Slider, Spinbox, etc.) for your current project. The corresponding controls show up in the toolbox with a new button labeled 'Extension'. Have fun. Marco Bauer From elentirmo at ...20... Wed Aug 27 10:31:25 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:31:25 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a and Signal #11 problem In-Reply-To: <200308270704.h7R74SQ06716@...224...> References: <200308270704.h7R74SQ06716@...224...> Message-ID: <200308271031.25308.elentirmo@...20...> Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2003 09:04 schrieb mephisto75 at ...20...: > On SuSE 8.2 Gambas 0.64a Compiled and installed perfectly with: > ./configure > ./make > ./make install > There was "only" the Signal #11 Problem. > With the new Process.c > ./configure OK > ./make OK > ./make install OK > But If you try to start it you get a Speicherzugriffsfehler (Segmentation > Fault). So without patch it works partly, with patch it does not run at > all. Does anybody else have this problem ? > > Regards Without the patch I had the same problem but after recompiling with the patch everything worked fine (SuSE 8.2 Pro FTP, KDE 3.1.3, qt 3.1.2, gcc 3.3). Gruss Marco Bauer From wizardmansite at ...43... Wed Aug 27 11:40:54 2003 From: wizardmansite at ...43... (Devilyn) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Gambas-user] Sprite Over Map. Message-ID: <20030827094054.84078.qmail@...243...> Ok so now that I know how to make a board/map. What do I have to do to put up a sprite such as a man/char who represents a party..A sprite/pic of a man who walks over the tile based board/background? A bit of code on how to do this would be of great help..I can convert all my graphics into .png if needed. P.S. No need for lots of speed my RPG game is going to be all turn based.... For example Player clicks to move.. then computer makes move...then player again.. Perfect type of game made in gambas. Devilyn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From fj.cruz at ...179... Wed Aug 27 16:31:56 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:31:56 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Error #11 (uselocale) In-Reply-To: <200308262335.36256.gambas@...2...> References: <200308262322.34740.fj.cruz@...179...> <200308262335.36256.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308271631.57346.fj.cruz@...179...> El Martes, 26 de Agosto de 2003 23:35, Benoit Minisini escribi?: > Le Mardi 26 Ao?t 2003 23:22, F.J. Cruz a ?crit : > > Hi Benoit, > > > > You know i'm using Mandrake 9.1 with kernel 2.4.21 ;). If I try to work > > with a project that uses the Extended GUI Component - gb.qt.ext , I still > > get the error you know with de uselocale. If I don't select that > > component, the project work ok. > > > > Saludos. > > Even with the patch ? Yes. I copied the patch and made make && make install. -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Wed Aug 27 18:51:57 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:51:57 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Error #11 (uselocale) In-Reply-To: <200308271631.57346.fj.cruz@...179...> References: <200308262322.34740.fj.cruz@...179...> <200308262335.36256.gambas@...2...> <200308271631.57346.fj.cruz@...179...> Message-ID: <200308271251.57872.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Wednesday 27 August 2003 10:31, F.J. Cruz wrote: > Yes. I copied the patch and made make && make install. If you're not building off of a fresh copy of the source, you will need to "make clean" before rebuilding it, in all likelihood. Rob From elentirmo at ...20... Wed Aug 27 20:01:22 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:01:22 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Windows can't be closed in the IDE Message-ID: <200308272001.22769.elentirmo@...20...> Hi everyone, it seems that on some occasions the editor windows (forms, classes, etc.) can't be closed. They just flicker once or twice and stay where they are. Is anyone else having the same issue? gambas 0.64a (patched); KDE 3.1.3; qt 3.1.2 Gruss Marco Bauer From fj.cruz at ...179... Wed Aug 27 21:07:00 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:07:00 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Error #11 (uselocale) In-Reply-To: <200308271251.57872.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308262322.34740.fj.cruz@...179...> <200308271631.57346.fj.cruz@...179...> <200308271251.57872.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308272107.00549.fj.cruz@...179...> El Mi?rcoles, 27 de Agosto de 2003 18:51, Rob escribi?: > On Wednesday 27 August 2003 10:31, F.J. Cruz wrote: > > Yes. I copied the patch and made make && make install. > > If you're not building off of a fresh copy of the source, you > will need to "make clean" before rebuilding it, in all > likelihood. > > Rob Idid it too, but i'm going to try with a fresh copy of the source. Neke -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From fj.cruz at ...179... Wed Aug 27 21:08:11 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:08:11 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Windows can't be closed in the IDE In-Reply-To: <200308272001.22769.elentirmo@...20...> References: <200308272001.22769.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <200308272108.11300.fj.cruz@...179...> El Mi?rcoles, 27 de Agosto de 2003 20:01, Marco Bauer escribi?: > Hi everyone, > > it seems that on some occasions the editor windows (forms, classes, etc.) > can't be closed. They just flicker once or twice and stay where they are. > > Is anyone else having the same issue? > > gambas 0.64a (patched); KDE 3.1.3; qt 3.1.2 > > Gruss > Marco Bauer > > Hi Marco, Yes, I have the same issue. Neke -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From gambas at ...2... Wed Aug 27 21:15:14 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:15:14 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Sprite Over Map. In-Reply-To: <20030827094054.84078.qmail@...243...> References: <20030827094054.84078.qmail@...243...> Message-ID: <200308272115.14582.gambas@...2...> Le Mercredi 27 Ao?t 2003 11:40, Devilyn a ?crit : > Ok so now that I know how to make a board/map. > What do I have to do to put up a sprite such as a > man/char who represents a party..A sprite/pic of a man > who walks over the tile based board/background? > A bit of code on how to do this would be of great > help..I can convert all my graphics into .png if > needed. > P.S. No need for lots of speed my RPG game is going to > be all turn based.... For example Player clicks to > move.. then computer makes move...then player again.. > Perfect type of game made in gambas. > Devilyn > If your player picture is a png with transparent pixels, then you just have to draw it on the board. DIM hPlayer AS Picture hPlayer = Picture["player.png"] ... ' Draw the tiles ... Draw.Picture(hPlayer, X, Y) -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From Gambasfr at ...11... Wed Aug 27 21:58:19 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:58:19 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.64a and Signal #11 problem In-Reply-To: <200308261215.01608.elentirmo@...20...> References: <200308252346.54502.gambas@...2...> <200308261215.01608.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <200308272158.19818.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Mardi 26 Ao?t 2003 12:15, Marco Bauer a ?crit : > Am Montag, 25. August 2003 23:46 schrieb Benoit Minisini: > > Here is a patch that fixes the signal #11 problem. It seems that the > > Linux dynamic libraries loader does not like when the environment > > variable LD_PRELOAD is set to a null string - except on my own computer ! > > > > Replace the gambas-0.64a/src/exec/CProcess.c file by the one joined to > > this mail. > > > > Note that this patch can't compile on Solaris - It uses a GlibC function > > that Solaris don't have. I must take time to rewrite this function for > > Solaris, and it takes a little time. > > > > Tell me if everything works correctly now... > > Works perfectly now. > > Ragards > Marco Bauer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user Works perfectly now too. Salutation, Fabien Bodard From gambas at ...2... Wed Aug 27 22:09:57 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:09:57 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Windows can't be closed in the IDE In-Reply-To: <200308272108.11300.fj.cruz@...179...> References: <200308272001.22769.elentirmo@...20...> <200308272108.11300.fj.cruz@...179...> Message-ID: <200308272209.57979.gambas@...2...> Le Mercredi 27 Ao?t 2003 21:08, F.J. Cruz a ?crit : > El Mi?rcoles, 27 de Agosto de 2003 20:01, Marco Bauer escribi?: > > Hi everyone, > > > > it seems that on some occasions the editor windows (forms, classes, etc.) > > can't be closed. They just flicker once or twice and stay where they are. > > > > Is anyone else having the same issue? > > > > gambas 0.64a (patched); KDE 3.1.3; qt 3.1.2 > > > > Gruss > > Marco Bauer > > Hi Marco, > > Yes, I have the same issue. > > Neke Can you try to reproduce this, because I never had this behaviour on my machine - It could be a qt stuff (I have qt 3.1.1) -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From fj.cruz at ...179... Wed Aug 27 22:18:37 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:18:37 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Windows can't be closed in the IDE In-Reply-To: <200308272209.57979.gambas@...2...> References: <200308272001.22769.elentirmo@...20...> <200308272108.11300.fj.cruz@...179...> <200308272209.57979.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308272218.37433.fj.cruz@...179...> El Mi?rcoles, 27 de Agosto de 2003 22:09, Benoit Minisini escribi?: > > Can you try to reproduce this, because I never had this behaviour on my > machine - It could be a qt stuff (I have qt 3.1.1) At this time, I'm re-installing gambas 0.64 from sources with the patch, but I'll try to reproduce that issue. -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From fj.cruz at ...179... Wed Aug 27 22:48:35 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:48:35 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Error #11 (uselocale) In-Reply-To: <200308272107.00549.fj.cruz@...179...> References: <200308262322.34740.fj.cruz@...179...> <200308271251.57872.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308272107.00549.fj.cruz@...179...> Message-ID: <200308272248.35282.fj.cruz@...179...> El Mi?rcoles, 27 de Agosto de 2003 21:07, F.J. Cruz escribi?: > El Mi?rcoles, 27 de Agosto de 2003 18:51, Rob escribi?: > > On Wednesday 27 August 2003 10:31, F.J. Cruz wrote: > > > Yes. I copied the patch and made make && make install. > > > > If you're not building off of a fresh copy of the source, you > > will need to "make clean" before rebuilding it, in all > > likelihood. > > > > Rob > > Idid it too, but i'm going to try with a fresh copy of the source. > > Neke I've compilled gambas 0.64a from a fresh copy of source, and all work ok. -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From fj.cruz at ...179... Wed Aug 27 23:09:02 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:09:02 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Windows can't be closed in the IDE In-Reply-To: <200308272209.57979.gambas@...2...> References: <200308272001.22769.elentirmo@...20...> <200308272108.11300.fj.cruz@...179...> <200308272209.57979.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308272309.02287.fj.cruz@...179...> El Mi?rcoles, 27 de Agosto de 2003 22:09, Benoit Minisini escribi?: > Le Mercredi 27 Ao?t 2003 21:08, F.J. Cruz a ?crit : > > El Mi?rcoles, 27 de Agosto de 2003 20:01, Marco Bauer escribi?: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > it seems that on some occasions the editor windows (forms, classes, > > > etc.) can't be closed. They just flicker once or twice and stay where > > > they are. > > > > > > Is anyone else having the same issue? > > > > > > gambas 0.64a (patched); KDE 3.1.3; qt 3.1.2 > > > > > > Gruss > > > Marco Bauer > > > > Hi Marco, > > > > Yes, I have the same issue. > > > > Neke > > Can you try to reproduce this, because I never had this behaviour on my > machine - It could be a qt stuff (I have qt 3.1.1) Well, no always these windows don't close properly. In my machine this happen sometimes when there are opened some of these ones: sometimes the windows close, sometimes they flicker and sometimes, simply, they don't close. Note i'm using qt 3.1.2 with kde 3.1.3 -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From rizky at ...225... Thu Aug 28 04:01:59 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:01:59 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308220153.26545.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308210826.53186.rizky@...225...> <200308220153.26545.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308280902.00244.rizky@...225...> On Friday 22 August 2003 12:53, Rob wrote: > On Friday 22 August 2003 01:53, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > You forgot the END in the sub before mnexit_Click(). (I think it's > MenuCreating()...) I bet you just accidentally deleted it while editing > code, I've done that. In this case it's easy to overlook because the > entire MenuCreating() sub isn't indented. > > Rob thank's rob... it works... no more errors on the code... but, when i run it... the form doesn't have any menu... is that what really happen ??? From rizky at ...225... Thu Aug 28 04:31:05 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:31:05 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308280902.00244.rizky@...225...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308220153.26545.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308280902.00244.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308280931.05640.rizky@...225...> On Thursday 28 August 2003 09:01, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > On Friday 22 August 2003 12:53, Rob wrote: > > On Friday 22 August 2003 01:53, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > > > > You forgot the END in the sub before mnexit_Click(). (I think it's > > MenuCreating()...) I bet you just accidentally deleted it while editing > > code, I've done that. In this case it's easy to overlook because the > > entire MenuCreating() sub isn't indented. > > > > Rob > > thank's rob... it works... no more errors on the code... > > but, when i run it... the form doesn't have any menu... > is that what really happen ??? > up's sorry... i've forgot to call the function MenuCreating() so i added that function in : PUBLIC SUB Form_Open() MenuCreating() END but when i run the program again... it raise error like this: "Type Mismatch. The parent control of a Menu must be a Window or another Menu." it pointed to : hMenu = NEW Menu(hMenu) AS "MnuEvent" why ? From rizky at ...225... Thu Aug 28 04:47:18 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:47:18 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Event in Menu In-Reply-To: <200308280931.05640.rizky@...225...> References: <20030813210939.3876.qmail@...234...> <200308280902.00244.rizky@...225...> <200308280931.05640.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308280947.18478.rizky@...225...> On Thursday 28 August 2003 09:31, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > On Thursday 28 August 2003 09:01, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > > On Friday 22 August 2003 12:53, Rob wrote: > > > On Friday 22 August 2003 01:53, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > > > > > > You forgot the END in the sub before mnexit_Click(). (I think it's > > > MenuCreating()...) I bet you just accidentally deleted it while editing > > > code, I've done that. In this case it's easy to overlook because the > > > entire MenuCreating() sub isn't indented. > > > > > > Rob > > > > thank's rob... it works... no more errors on the code... > > > > but, when i run it... the form doesn't have any menu... > > is that what really happen ??? > > up's sorry... i've forgot to call the function MenuCreating() > so i added that function in : > > PUBLIC SUB Form_Open() > MenuCreating() > END > > but when i run the program again... it raise error like this: > > "Type Mismatch. The parent control of a Menu must be a Window or another > Menu." > > it pointed to : > > hMenu = NEW Menu(hMenu) AS "MnuEvent" > > why ? > up's sorry to bugging all the time with this menu event... btw, i've test a new one and it works... now i can use the code clearly... thank you rob, fabien. From secmon at ...169... Thu Aug 28 05:04:17 2003 From: secmon at ...169... (Henry Ismaili) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:04:17 +1000 Subject: [Gambas-user] Windows can't be closed in the IDE In-Reply-To: <200308272001.22769.elentirmo@...20...> References: <200308272001.22769.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <200308281304.18179.secmon@...169...> I get the same thing aswell ... the windows will not close... and sometimes they will flicker out of control and have to wait about 1 min before i can close gambas and restart. On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 04:01, Marco Bauer wrote: Gambas 0.63; KDE 3.1.3; qt 3.1.2 R, Henry. > Hi everyone, > > it seems that on some occasions the editor windows (forms, classes, etc.) > can't be closed. They just flicker once or twice and stay where they are. > > Is anyone else having the same issue? > > gambas 0.64a (patched); KDE 3.1.3; qt 3.1.2 > > Gruss > Marco Bauer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user From rizky at ...225... Thu Aug 28 12:51:12 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:51:12 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Tabstrip In-Reply-To: <200308152146.42758.Gambasfr@...11...> References: <200308142124.WAA15500@...7...> <200308142205.25403.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> <200308152146.42758.Gambasfr@...11...> Message-ID: <200308281751.12280.rizky@...225...> i create a program that use tabstrip and i create a few tab for it... i also make a button in that form.. i wanna raise the tab that i select in the tabstrip when the button is pressed... how do i do that ?? so if i've 4 tabs in tabstrip... and i wanna the tab number 2 is raised when the button is pressed... can anyone help ?? From elentirmo at ...20... Thu Aug 28 13:19:21 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:19:21 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Windows can't be closed in the IDE In-Reply-To: <200308272209.57979.gambas@...2...> References: <200308272001.22769.elentirmo@...20...> <200308272108.11300.fj.cruz@...179...> <200308272209.57979.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308281319.21213.elentirmo@...20...> Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2003 22:09 schrieb Benoit Minisini: > Le Mercredi 27 Ao?t 2003 21:08, F.J. Cruz a ?crit : > > El Mi?rcoles, 27 de Agosto de 2003 20:01, Marco Bauer escribi?: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > it seems that on some occasions the editor windows (forms, classes, > > > etc.) can't be closed. They just flicker once or twice and stay where > > > they are. > > > > > > Is anyone else having the same issue? > > > > > > gambas 0.64a (patched); KDE 3.1.3; qt 3.1.2 > > > > > > Gruss > > > Marco Bauer > > > > Hi Marco, > > > > Yes, I have the same issue. > > > > Neke > > Can you try to reproduce this, because I never had this behaviour on my > machine - It could be a qt stuff (I have qt 3.1.1) On my system this behaviour can be reproduced by doing the following: - open a form (for example Blights -> win1.class) - run the program from gambas - abort the program - now the form won't close, it just flickers once Gruss Marco From leble at ...27... Thu Aug 28 16:40:07 2003 From: leble at ...27... (Benard Lejeune) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:40:07 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] problem with compilation Message-ID: <001c01c36d72$46e4b980$0908a8c0@...244...> Hello, I just begin with Linux and I'm trying to use Gambas. I have some problem to compile it : When I use the make commande I get the following error message : /usr/include/qt3/../bin/moc : commande introuvable. Do you have any idea to solve this problem? As a beginner, I use a small version of Linux called Knoppix (based on a Debian). Thanks for you help Bernard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Thu Aug 28 17:54:10 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:54:10 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] problem with compilation In-Reply-To: <001c01c36d72$46e4b980$0908a8c0@...244...> References: <001c01c36d72$46e4b980$0908a8c0@...244...> Message-ID: <200308281154.10340.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Thursday 28 August 2003 10:40, Benard Lejeune wrote: > When I use the make commande I get the following error message > : /usr/include/qt3/../bin/moc : commande introuvable. > Do you have any idea to solve this problem? > As a beginner, I use a small version of Linux called Knoppix On RPM-based systems, you would need the Qt development package. On Mandrake, which I use, it's called "qt3-devel". I'm not sure what the Knoppix/Debian equivalent package is called, but that's what you want. Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Thu Aug 28 18:14:09 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:14:09 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Tabstrip In-Reply-To: <200308281751.12280.rizky@...225...> References: <200308142124.WAA15500@...7...> <200308152146.42758.Gambasfr@...11...> <200308281751.12280.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308281214.09963.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Thursday 28 August 2003 06:51, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > i wanna raise the tab that i select in the tabstrip when the > button is pressed... how do i do that ?? myTabstrip.index = 1 ' selects the second tab '(they're numbered from 0) I know, it's confusing having the Current property be read only and the Index property be read-write. Took me 20 minutes to notice the Index property since I'm used to it working the way it does in VB ;) Rob From karl.reinl at ...9... Thu Aug 28 22:30:59 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:30:59 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas and DB-components Message-ID: <3F4E6683.6080707@...9...> Salut Beno?t, it is not possible (gambas-0.64a) to compile gambas, if you use --disable-db-component. You see at make install that the DB-manger is compiled and it at the end you finish with an ERROR at mysql. Try it ! What shell I do if I want gambas, but dont need any DB ? amicalement Charlie From rizky at ...225... Fri Aug 29 03:12:40 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:12:40 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] Tabstrip In-Reply-To: <200308281214.09963.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> References: <200308142124.WAA15500@...7...> <200308281751.12280.rizky@...225...> <200308281214.09963.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> Message-ID: <200308290812.40027.rizky@...225...> On Thursday 28 August 2003 23:14, Rob wrote: > On Thursday 28 August 2003 06:51, Rizky Tahara Shita wrote: > > i wanna raise the tab that i select in the tabstrip when the > > button is pressed... how do i do that ?? > > myTabstrip.index = 1 ' selects the second tab > '(they're numbered from 0) > > I know, it's confusing having the Current property be read only > and the Index property be read-write. Took me 20 minutes to > notice the Index property since I'm used to it working the way > it does in VB ;) > > Rob > thank you rob... From gambas at ...2... Fri Aug 29 10:31:59 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:31:59 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas and DB-components In-Reply-To: <3F4E6683.6080707@...9...> References: <3F4E6683.6080707@...9...> Message-ID: <200308291032.00002.gambas@...2...> Le Jeudi 28 Ao?t 2003 22:30, Charlie a ?crit : > Salut Beno?t, > > it is not possible (gambas-0.64a) to compile gambas, if you use > --disable-db-component. > You see at make install that the DB-manger is compiled and it at the end > you finish with an ERROR at mysql. > > Try it ! > > What shell I do if I want gambas, but dont need any DB ? > > amicalement > Charlie > > Did you "uninstall" the previous version, i.e. remove /opt/gambas before reinstalling ? -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From ronstk at ...239... Fri Aug 29 15:13:16 2003 From: ronstk at ...239... (R Onstenk) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:13:16 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How do events work? Message-ID: <000001c36e2f$4f369000$2101a8c0@...240...> I have a form with 2 comboboxes. First is product group and the second are the items in that group After selecting the group then the items are updated and the user can make a choise for one of the items. Going to the item combo can be done with the tab key or clicking on it. At this moment the Enter or Gotfocus is expected to occur for the item combo and Leave and/or Lostfocus for the product combo. If there is only 1 item the user can go without selection in the second combo to the item information presented below those combos. Any way, good or bad program flow, the following code does not work at all Starting with: PUBLIC SUB cbxParent_LostFocus()'Raised when the control loses the focus. ' PRIVATE was not doing anything ' made it PUBLIC give stack overflow ' add STATIC still not working ' the the last one STATIC PRIVATE, also not working ' what hell is going wrong? STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxProduct_LostFocus()'Raised when the control loses the focus. Message ("cbxProduct_LostFocus") END STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxProduct_Leave()'Raised when the mouse leaves the control. Message ("cbxProduct_Leave") END STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxItem_GotFocus() 'Raised when the control gets the focus. does not work Message ("cbxItem_GotFocus") END STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxItem_Enter()'Raised when the mouse enters the control. Message ("cbxItem_Enter") END From ronstk at ...245... Fri Aug 29 15:23:04 2003 From: ronstk at ...245... (R Onstenk) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:23:04 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How do events work? Message-ID: <000101c36e30$ad37b2a0$2101a8c0@...240...> I have a form with 2 comboboxes. First is product group and the second are the items in that group After selecting the group then the items are updated and the user can make a choise for one of the items. Going to the item combo can be done with the tab key or clicking on it. At this moment the Enter or Gotfocus is expected to occur for the item combo and Leave and/or Lostfocus for the product combo. If there is only 1 item the user can go without selection in the second combo to the item information presented below those combos. Any way, good or bad program flow, the following code does not work at all Starting with: PUBLIC SUB cbxParent_LostFocus()'Raised when the control loses the focus. ' PRIVATE was not doing anything ' made it PUBLIC give stack overflow ' add STATIC still not working ' the the last one STATIC PRIVATE, also not working ' what hell is going wrong? STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxProduct_LostFocus()'Raised when the control loses the focus. Message ("cbxProduct_LostFocus") END STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxProduct_Leave()'Raised when the mouse leaves the control. Message ("cbxProduct_Leave") END STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxItem_GotFocus() 'Raised when the control gets the focus. does not work Message ("cbxItem_GotFocus") END STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxItem_Enter()'Raised when the mouse enters the control. Message ("cbxItem_Enter") END ----------------- Ron From ronstk at ...245... Fri Aug 29 15:49:26 2003 From: ronstk at ...245... (R Onstenk) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:49:26 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Contact request for wiki manual Message-ID: <000001c36e34$5c2ccae0$2101a8c0@...240...> hi Rob, I want to contact you directly. Is that posible? I found some other errors in the wiki manual and want to give you some correction's as a contibution. I think you should verify that it is true. Please give me a way to exchange the email addresses. Sorry if it double posted but my ADSL connection is lost and W98 is sending to blackhole. --------- Ron From ronstk at ...239... Fri Aug 29 10:51:29 2003 From: ronstk at ...239... (R Onstenk) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:51:29 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for Rob Kudla Message-ID: <000001c36e0a$bd14ef60$2101a8c0@...240...> hi Rob, I saw your responce to the tabstrip problem. I want to contact you directly. Is that posible? I found some other errors in the wiki manual and want to give you some correction's. Please give me a way to exchange the email addresses. I did send you a request to the email address with raindog in it but I have no responce got from you. Ron From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Fri Aug 29 19:24:22 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:24:22 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for Rob Kudla In-Reply-To: <000001c36e0a$bd14ef60$2101a8c0@...240...> References: <000001c36e0a$bd14ef60$2101a8c0@...240...> Message-ID: <200308291324.22234.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Friday 29 August 2003 04:51, R Onstenk wrote: > Please give me a way to exchange the email addresses. > I did send you a request to the email address with raindog in > it but I have no responce got from you. This is actually a good address. I see now that I did get some mail from you a couple days ago, and missed it at the time. Sorry! Rob From karl.reinl at ...9... Fri Aug 29 21:15:17 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:15:17 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas and DB-components References: <3F4E6683.6080707@...9...> <200308291032.00002.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <3F4FA645.9010809@...9...> Benoit Minisini schrieb: >Le Jeudi 28 Ao?t 2003 22:30, Charlie a ?crit : > > >>Salut Beno?t, >> >>it is not possible (gambas-0.64a) to compile gambas, if you use >>--disable-db-component. >>You see at make install that the DB-manger is compiled and it at the end >>you finish with an ERROR at mysql. >> >>Try it ! >> >>What shell I do if I want gambas, but dont need any DB ? >> >>amicalement >>Charlie >> >> >> >> > >Did you "uninstall" the previous version, i.e. remove /opt/gambas before >reinstalling ? > > > Salut Beno?t, it was a 'first' installation, on a new installed gentoo Box, who has no mysql and no pgsql installed yet. I installed the 0.64a with --disable-db-component . (see the output at make install attached) I seams that gambas works, but there is gb.db as component and the failed message at the end of make install. For 'uninstall' I never uninstalled a older gambas-version, I allways use /opt/gambas/gambas-0.xx for making a new version. The older versions kick away if I see thwe new one workes. Should I uninstall older versions ??? Amicalement Charlie -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: make_install.log URL: From gambas at ...2... Fri Aug 29 21:39:13 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:39:13 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas and DB-components In-Reply-To: <3F4FA645.9010809@...9...> References: <3F4E6683.6080707@...9...> <200308291032.00002.gambas@...2...> <3F4FA645.9010809@...9...> Message-ID: <200308292139.13401.gambas@...2...> Le Vendredi 29 Ao?t 2003 21:15, Charlie a ?crit : > Benoit Minisini schrieb: > >Le Jeudi 28 Ao?t 2003 22:30, Charlie a ?crit : > >>Salut Beno?t, > >> > >>it is not possible (gambas-0.64a) to compile gambas, if you use > >>--disable-db-component. > >>You see at make install that the DB-manger is compiled and it at the end > >>you finish with an ERROR at mysql. > >> > >>Try it ! > >> > >>What shell I do if I want gambas, but dont need any DB ? > >> > >>amicalement > >>Charlie > > > >Did you "uninstall" the previous version, i.e. remove /opt/gambas before > >reinstalling ? > > Salut Beno?t, > > it was a 'first' installation, on a new installed gentoo Box, who has no > mysql and no pgsql installed yet. > I installed the 0.64a with --disable-db-component . (see the output at > make install attached) > > I seams that gambas works, but there is gb.db as component and the > failed message at the end of make install. > > For 'uninstall' I never uninstalled a older gambas-version, I allways > use /opt/gambas/gambas-0.xx for making a new version. The older versions > kick away if I see thwe new one workes. > > Should I uninstall older versions ??? > > > Amicalement Charlie No, you should only uninstall if you install a new version in the same directory as the previous one. You get very strange messages in your log. Can you send me the log of ./configure and make ? -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Fri Aug 29 21:56:33 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:56:33 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.65 Message-ID: <200308292156.33672.gambas@...2...> Hi world, I have just uploaded gambas-0.65 on the web site. This version just contains bug fixes, a support for FreeBSD, and a new german translation made by Marco Bauer. - gambas-0.64a problems shoudl be fixed. - Now you can preload libraries like libtrash.so without crashing gambas. The problem with flashing windows, apparently caused by differences between qt 3.1.2 and qt 3.1.1 is not solved. Test it and tell me if it works on your system. Best regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From rizky at ...225... Sat Aug 30 05:56:30 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 10:56:30 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] window problem In-Reply-To: <200308292156.33672.gambas@...2...> References: <200308292156.33672.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308301056.30589.rizky@...225...> hi benoit, i make a simple program with gambas... the property of main form is fixed but when i run it, i can not minimize another window by clicking the window title in taskbar.. only window debug from gambas that i can minimize from taskbar... and when i stop the program they works normaly... yes ofcourse, if i click the minimize button in a window that i wanna minimize it will just fine... it just not work in taskbar... i'm still using gambas 0.63 and haven't try the 0.65 yet... is in the 0.65 has been fixed ?? btw, i cannot compile using the tar.gz files... it will took a long time for me to have the result... i still wait the rpm ones from rob... From rizky at ...225... Sat Aug 30 06:26:26 2003 From: rizky at ...225... (Rizky Tahara Shita) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:26:26 +0700 Subject: [Gambas-user] TextArea In-Reply-To: <200308301056.30589.rizky@...225...> References: <200308292156.33672.gambas@...2...> <200308301056.30589.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308301126.26075.rizky@...225...> is there any one know how big a textarea can hold text ?? From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 30 10:51:12 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 10:51:12 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: [Gambas-devel] Error Gambas-065 In-Reply-To: <200308300143.37577.leo.barnhoorn@...246...> References: <200308091717.17877.gambas@...2...> <200308300143.37577.leo.barnhoorn@...246...> Message-ID: <200308301051.12790.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 30 Ao?t 2003 10:43, Leo Barnhoorn a ?crit : > Hallo Benoit, > > I have the following Error: > > ERROR: #27: Cannot load component '/opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.la': invalid > module handle > > Everything is going well, starting Gambas selecting a project and at the > moment that i go to the menu Project - Properties, still no problem at the > moment that i leave the property window. The project is not running any > more i get the ERROR #27 > > I have running SuSE 8.2 > > Regards, > > Leo Barnhoorn. > This is a bug ! I'm currently trying to fix it... I will post a patch as soon as possible... -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 30 11:14:36 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:14:36 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: [Gambas-devel] Error Gambas-065 In-Reply-To: <200308301051.12790.gambas@...2...> References: <200308091717.17877.gambas@...2...> <200308300143.37577.leo.barnhoorn@...246...> <200308301051.12790.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308301114.36361.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 30 Ao?t 2003 10:51, Benoit Minisini a ?crit : > Le Samedi 30 Ao?t 2003 10:43, Leo Barnhoorn a ?crit : > > Hallo Benoit, > > > > I have the following Error: > > > > ERROR: #27: Cannot load component '/opt/gambas/lib/lib.gb.qt.la': invalid > > module handle > > > > Everything is going well, starting Gambas selecting a project and at the > > moment that i go to the menu Project - Properties, still no problem at > > the moment that i leave the property window. The project is not running > > any more i get the ERROR #27 > > > > I have running SuSE 8.2 > > > > Regards, > > > > Leo Barnhoorn. > > This is a bug ! I'm currently trying to fix it... I will post a patch as > soon as possible... Here is the patch. This a problem in the IDE that was already present in 0.64. Put the joined file in the IDE sources, recompile, and reinstall. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FPropertyProject.class Type: application/x-java Size: 11166 bytes Desc: not available URL: From samuel.derous at ...27... Sat Aug 30 11:17:28 2003 From: samuel.derous at ...27... (Samuel Derous) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:17:28 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] same problem Message-ID: <200308301117.28629.samuel.derous@...27...> Hey there, Still the same problem as with the previous version... when I use the extensions of QT, and try to run the program I only get: "The program has returned 1"... And in the terminal I get the message : wc: *.module not found (or form or class)... I also use Mandrake 9.1 Any body anty ideas? Thanks.. Samuel From gibsonsphoto at ...247... Sat Aug 30 12:36:12 2003 From: gibsonsphoto at ...247... (neil lewis) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 10:36:12 +0000 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: Gambas-user digest, Vol 1 #333 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F507E1C.9050707@...247...> Hi Benoit, Thanks for all your good work! My system is running SuSE 8.1, fully patched to date. Previously, I had been able to run KConfigure to the point of installation, when it would exit with a segfault. The resulting installation would start, but would not load any examples nor start a new project. This version still exits with a segfault when installing, but much later, so it now open and runs the examples. Neil Lewis, London. gambas-user-request at lists.sourceforge.net wrote: >Send Gambas-user mailing list submissions to > gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gambas-user-request at lists.sourceforge.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > gambas-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Gambas-user digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. gambas-0.65 (Benoit Minisini) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: Benoit Minisini >To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net >Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:56:33 +0200 >Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.65 >Reply-To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > >Hi world, > >I have just uploaded gambas-0.65 on the web site. > >This version just contains bug fixes, a support for FreeBSD, and a new german >translation made by Marco Bauer. > >- gambas-0.64a problems shoudl be fixed. >- Now you can preload libraries like libtrash.so without crashing gambas. > >The problem with flashing windows, apparently caused by differences between qt >3.1.2 and qt 3.1.1 is not solved. > >Test it and tell me if it works on your system. > >Best regards, > > > From vschmid at ...210... Sat Aug 30 11:42:55 2003 From: vschmid at ...210... (Volker Schmid) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:42:55 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to make multidimensional array? Message-ID: Hello, I need an array with two dimensions to store pre-calculated koordinates. I try'd this way: ' Head of Class KoordX[] AS Integer[] ' Later in Sub: KoordX = NEW Integer[] This way I can create a one-dimensional array. But I need to store data like this: KoordX[3200,189]=100 KoordX[1234,123]=60 ... How can I do this? Gambas-Help does not help :-( Gr?sse, Volker From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 30 12:23:51 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:23:51 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] How to make multidimensional array? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200308301223.51162.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 30 Ao?t 2003 11:42, Volker Schmid a ?crit : > Hello, > > I need an array with two dimensions to store pre-calculated koordinates. I > try'd this way: > > ' Head of Class > KoordX[] AS Integer[] > > ' Later in Sub: > KoordX = NEW Integer[] > > This way I can create a one-dimensional array. > > But I need to store data like this: > > KoordX[3200,189]=100 > KoordX[1234,123]=60 > ... > > How can I do this? Gambas-Help does not help :-( > > Gr?sse, > > Volker > There are two kinds of arrays in Gambas: ** "Java-like" arrays They are objects of the following classes: Integer[], String[], Object[], Date[], Variant[]. They have only one dimension. You declare them this way: they are always void at startup. DIM MyArray AS NEW Integer[] They are dynamic, and have a lot of useful methods applying to them. ** "native" arrays You declare them this way: DIM MyArray[Dim1, Dim2, ... ] AS Integer/String/... You can have up to eight dimensions. They are NOT objects. They are allocated on the stack if you declare them local to a function, or inside the object data if you declare them global. But they are not dynamic. They can't grow or shrink once declared. You can only only put an get data into them. Hope things are clearer now ! Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 30 12:26:47 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:26:47 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: Gambas-user digest, Vol 1 #333 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <3F507E1C.9050707@...247...> References: <3F507E1C.9050707@...247...> Message-ID: <200308301226.47361.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 30 Ao?t 2003 12:36, neil lewis a ?crit : > Hi Benoit, > > Thanks for all your good work! > > My system is running SuSE 8.1, fully patched to date. > > Previously, I had been able to run KConfigure to the point of > installation, when it would exit with a segfault. The resulting > installation would start, > but would not load any examples nor start a new project. > > This version still exits with a segfault when installing, but much > later, so it now open and runs the examples. > > Neil Lewis, London. > Could you give more details ? Why don't you just use './configure', 'make' and 'make install' ? Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 30 12:27:10 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:27:10 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] same problem In-Reply-To: <200308301117.28629.samuel.derous@...27...> References: <200308301117.28629.samuel.derous@...27...> Message-ID: <200308301227.10562.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 30 Ao?t 2003 11:17, Samuel Derous a ?crit : > Hey there, > > Still the same problem as with the previous version... > > when I use the extensions of QT, and try to run the program I only get: > "The program has returned 1"... And in the terminal I get the message : wc: > *.module not found (or form or class)... > > I also use Mandrake 9.1 > > Any body anty ideas? Thanks.. > > Samuel > > I have just uploaded a gambas-0.65a with the patch in it. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From mephisto75 at ...20... Sat Aug 30 13:24:13 2003 From: mephisto75 at ...20... (mephisto75 at ...20...) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 13:24:13 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in 0.65a Class Splitter Message-ID: <200308301124.h7UBODQ25473@...224...> I'm using SuSE 8.2 andsince Version 0.63 I can't get at least one Version running. In 0.64a there was this #11 problem. The patched Version produced a Segfault at startup. Finally the 0.65a produces a : Config.LoadSplitterPos.296: #11: Unknown symbol 'Layout' in class 'Splitter' at startup. Am I doing anything wrong (Is there something to pay attention to on SuSE 8.2) ? Thanx __________________________________________________________________________ Die sicherste Form der Kommunikation: E-Mails verschluesseln, Spam-Filter, Adressverifizierung, digitale Unterschrift: http://freemail.web.de From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 30 13:38:20 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 13:38:20 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in 0.65a Class Splitter In-Reply-To: <200308301124.h7UBODQ25473@...224...> References: <200308301124.h7UBODQ25473@...224...> Message-ID: <200308301338.20492.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 30 Ao?t 2003 13:24, mephisto75 at ...20... a ?crit : > I'm using SuSE 8.2 andsince Version 0.63 I can't get at least one Version > running. In 0.64a there was this #11 problem. > The patched Version produced a Segfault at startup. > Finally the 0.65a produces a : > Config.LoadSplitterPos.296: #11: Unknown symbol 'Layout' in class > 'Splitter' at startup. > Am I doing anything wrong (Is there something to pay attention to on SuSE > 8.2) ? > > Thanx > Splitter.Layout is a new property in gambas-0.65 that replaces Splitter.Pos in gambas-0.64. If your gambas-0.65 can't find this symbol, it means that you are using library from 0.64 ! Try to uninstall and recompile everything. -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From ronstk at ...245... Sat Aug 30 14:57:40 2003 From: ronstk at ...245... (R Onstenk) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 14:57:40 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] LIKE Operator Not working? Message-ID: <000001c36ef6$4b925fc0$2101a8c0@...240...> Hi Benoit I just had a sneak peak in pcode_th and in the beginning of PCODE_dump() there are two static lines one for *op_comp and one for *op_arith While I have made in the past also a basic intrpreter on the Z80 cpu I was currious how you did it with the p-code thing. As far I know the operator LIKE should be of the kind of op_comp while op_arithe are real mathematical relational expressions I did found however LIKE as op_arith and I beleave it should by op_comp This is from the 0.63 code. While I did read something about not corret working LIKE I thought I should inform you about it. Can you confirm me that my conclusion is correct? -------------- Greeting Ron From karl.reinl at ...9... Sat Aug 30 17:43:52 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:43:52 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas and DB-components References: <3F4E6683.6080707@...9...> <200308291032.00002.gambas@...2...> <3F4FA645.9010809@...9...> <200308292139.13401.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <3F50C638.8040706@...9...> Benoit Minisini schrieb: >Le Vendredi 29 Ao?t 2003 21:15, Charlie a ?crit : > > >>Benoit Minisini schrieb: >> >> >>>Le Jeudi 28 Ao?t 2003 22:30, Charlie a ?crit : >>> >>> >>>>Salut Beno?t, >>>> >>>>it is not possible (gambas-0.64a) to compile gambas, if you use >>>>--disable-db-component. >>>>You see at make install that the DB-manger is compiled and it at the end >>>>you finish with an ERROR at mysql. >>>> >>>>Try it ! >>>> >>>>What shell I do if I want gambas, but dont need any DB ? >>>> >>>>amicalement >>>>Charlie >>>> >>>> >>>Did you "uninstall" the previous version, i.e. remove /opt/gambas before >>>reinstalling ? >>> >>> >>Salut Beno?t, >> >>it was a 'first' installation, on a new installed gentoo Box, who has no >>mysql and no pgsql installed yet. >>I installed the 0.64a with --disable-db-component . (see the output at >>make install attached) >> >>I seams that gambas works, but there is gb.db as component and the >>failed message at the end of make install. >> >>For 'uninstall' I never uninstalled a older gambas-version, I allways >>use /opt/gambas/gambas-0.xx for making a new version. The older versions >>kick away if I see thwe new one workes. >> >>Should I uninstall older versions ??? >> >> >>Amicalement Charlie >> >> > >No, you should only uninstall if you install a new version in the same >directory as the previous one. > >You get very strange messages in your log. Can you send me the log of >./configure and make ? > > > I opend a new Test-0.64a dir, and started there from scrach. ./configure and make I do as NON-root make as root by su -c "make install" Always with --disable-db-component I packed your all .log found Amicalement Charlie -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Samuel Derous) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:43:13 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] same problem In-Reply-To: <200308301227.10562.gambas@...2...> References: <200308301117.28629.samuel.derous@...27...> <200308301227.10562.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308302043.13862.samuel.derous@...27...> Problem solved... Thanks for the work... ;-) greetz... Samuel Op zaterdag 30 augustus 2003 12:27, schreef Benoit Minisini: > Le Samedi 30 Ao?t 2003 11:17, Samuel Derous a ?crit : > > Hey there, > > > > Still the same problem as with the previous version... > > > > when I use the extensions of QT, and try to run the program I only get: > > "The program has returned 1"... And in the terminal I get the message : > > wc: *.module not found (or form or class)... > > > > I also use Mandrake 9.1 > > > > Any body anty ideas? Thanks.. > > > > Samuel > > I have just uploaded a gambas-0.65a with the patch in it. From ronstk at ...239... Sat Aug 30 21:17:47 2003 From: ronstk at ...239... (R Onstenk) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:17:47 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] LAST document example fails Message-ID: <000101c36f2b$655d5c40$2101a8c0@...240...> I think ther is a failure in the wiki doc for LAST. DIM hButton[3] AS Button hButton[0] = NEW Button AS "MyButtons" hButton[0].Text = "Red" does not work. I had to chang it to hButton[0] = NEW Button(ME) AS "MyButtons" ------------ Ron From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sat Aug 30 22:40:55 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:40:55 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] LAST document example fails In-Reply-To: <000101c36f2b$655d5c40$2101a8c0@...240...> References: <000101c36f2b$655d5c40$2101a8c0@...240...> Message-ID: <200308301640.55262.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Saturday 30 August 2003 15:17, R Onstenk wrote: > I think ther is a failure in the wiki doc for LAST. Fixed. Feel free to fix things like that when you find them; if for some reason your fixes don't work, we can always back out of them ;) Rob From gambas at ...2... Sat Aug 30 23:06:33 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:06:33 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] LIKE Operator Not working? In-Reply-To: <000001c36ef6$4b925fc0$2101a8c0@...240...> References: <000001c36ef6$4b925fc0$2101a8c0@...240...> Message-ID: <200308302306.33076.gambas@...2...> Le Samedi 30 Ao?t 2003 14:57, R Onstenk a ?crit : > Hi Benoit > > I just had a sneak peak in pcode_th and in the beginning of PCODE_dump() > there are two static lines one for *op_comp and one for *op_arith > While I have made in the past also a basic intrpreter on the Z80 cpu I > was currious how you did it with the p-code thing. > As far I know the operator LIKE should be of the kind of op_comp > while op_arithe are real mathematical relational expressions > I did found however LIKE as op_arith and I beleave it should by op_comp > > This is from the 0.63 code. > While I did read something about not corret working LIKE I thought I > should inform you about it. > Can you confirm me that my conclusion is correct? > > -------------- > Greeting Ron > PCODE_dump() is just used for dissassembling p_code. It has nothing to do with p-code interpretation. The two arrays op_comp[] and op_arith[] should be only one array, there is no difference in their use by PCODE_dump. I don't remember why I splitted the operators in two arrays. Maybe because at the beginning, not every opcode were used ? If you want to read the LIKE interpretation routines, you have SUBR_like() in subr_string.c and the regexp.c module. So you are wrong :-) But the code of PCODE_dump is far from being beautiful ! I'm happy that ONE people read my code :-) Regards, -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From fj.cruz at ...179... Sat Aug 30 23:21:06 2003 From: fj.cruz at ...179... (F.J. Cruz) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:21:06 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] LIKE Operator Not working? In-Reply-To: <200308302306.33076.gambas@...2...> References: <000001c36ef6$4b925fc0$2101a8c0@...240...> <200308302306.33076.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308302321.06878.fj.cruz@...179...> El S?bado, 30 de Agosto de 2003 23:06, Benoit Minisini escribi?: > > I'm happy that ONE people read my code :-) > > Regards, Don't worry Benoit, I read it too....when I can't sleep!! :-D PD: It's a joke, of course, to read= to learn. :) -- .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ > S p a i n < /( )\ > Linux user #188524 < ^^-^^ > Linux machine #83532 < From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sat Aug 30 23:14:51 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:14:51 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] LIKE Operator Not working? In-Reply-To: <200308302306.33076.gambas@...2...> References: <000001c36ef6$4b925fc0$2101a8c0@...240...> <200308302306.33076.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <200308301714.51933.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> On Saturday 30 August 2003 17:06, Benoit Minisini wrote: > I'm happy that ONE people read my code :-) Hey, I have read it too, albeit only enough to figure out how to make the code editor use mixed case for all the keywords instead of all that YELLING ;) Rob From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... Sat Aug 30 23:24:13 2003 From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...94... (Rob) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:24:13 -0400 Subject: [Gambas-user] mandrake packages for 0.65a Message-ID: <200308301724.13882.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...> I have mdk 9.1 packages for 0.65a on my site now. Still not putting everything in one directory yet, and not ready for Mandrake contribs, I just wanted to get it packaged so I could finish up my new perl based wiki documentation generator so I can make actual current documentation for once ;) http://www.kudla.org/index.php?wl_mode=more&wl_eid=32 Rob From karl.reinl at ...9... Sun Aug 31 01:03:20 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:03:20 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.65a German Message-ID: <3F512D38.7070108@...9...> Salut, see format Tags in Tip of Day Charlie -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Schnappschuss1.png Type: image/png Size: 11504 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Gambasfr at ...11... Thu Aug 28 19:42:16 2003 From: Gambasfr at ...11... (Fabien BODARD) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:42:16 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Tabstrip In-Reply-To: <200308281751.12280.rizky@...225...> References: <200308142124.WAA15500@...7...> <200308152146.42758.Gambasfr@...11...> <200308281751.12280.rizky@...225...> Message-ID: <200308281942.17058.Gambasfr@...11...> Le Jeudi 28 Ao?t 2003 12:51, Rizky Tahara Shita a ?crit : > i create a program that use tabstrip and i create a few tab for it... > i also make a button in that form.. > > i wanna raise the tab that i select in the tabstrip when the button is > pressed... how do i do that ?? > > so if i've 4 tabs in tabstrip... and i wanna the tab number 2 is raised > when the button is pressed... > > can anyone help ?? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user Hum i don't see this option key in qt lib... It's possible that Benoit have forget to implement it... Fabien From eng_ak at ...200... Sun Aug 31 09:09:22 2003 From: eng_ak at ...200... (Ahmad Kamal) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:09:22 +0300 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.65a German In-Reply-To: <3F512D38.7070108@...9...> References: <3F512D38.7070108@...9...> Message-ID: <3F519F22.3000104@...200...> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gambas at ...2... Sun Aug 31 09:23:49 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:23:49 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.65a German In-Reply-To: <3F512D38.7070108@...9...> References: <3F512D38.7070108@...9...> Message-ID: <200308310923.49335.gambas@...2...> Le Dimanche 31 Ao?t 2003 01:03, Charlie a ?crit : > Salut, > > see format Tags in Tip of Day > > Charlie It may be a qt bug: qt decides himself if a text is HTML or plain text. Sometimes it may do the wrong decision. I will force it to take HTML ! -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From elentirmo at ...20... Sun Aug 31 11:41:14 2003 From: elentirmo at ...20... (Marco Bauer) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:41:14 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Porblem with classes Message-ID: <200308311141.15163.elentirmo@...20...> Hi everyone, I'm somewhat new to OOP and right in my first project, which makes some use of classes I encountered a problem with a call to a class which is directed to a second class instanciated by the first one. The program exits with 'The program has returned the value: 1'. So I tried to solve this by creating a simple example of this process and I encountered yet another problem. 'Cause gambas tells me that class 'CKlasse1' is static. What does that mean? I didn't declare it as static! Can somebody please give me hint what's wrong? Gruss Marco Bauer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: example.tgz Type: application/x-tgz Size: 821 bytes Desc: not available URL: From karl.reinl at ...9... Sun Aug 31 12:22:45 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:22:45 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas-0.65a German References: <3F512D38.7070108@...9...> <200308310923.49335.gambas@...2...> Message-ID: <3F51CC75.1050705@...9...> Benoit Minisini schrieb: >Le Dimanche 31 Ao?t 2003 01:03, Charlie a ?crit : > > >>Salut, >> >>see format Tags in Tip of Day >> >>Charlie >> >> > >It may be a qt bug: qt decides himself if a text is HTML or plain text. >Sometimes it may do the wrong decision. I will force it to take HTML ! > > > Salut Beno?t, have to say this. this happend only on my SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x. Laguage=German Not on gentoo 1.4rc4, KDE 3.1.2 , qt-3.1.2 and gcc 3.2.3 Laguage=English Charlie From karl.reinl at ...9... Sun Aug 31 12:39:28 2003 From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Charlie) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:39:28 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] can produce signal #11 problem Message-ID: <3F51D060.20808@...9...> Salut Beno?t, testied out. on my SuSE 7.2 , KDE 2.2.2 , qt-3.0.5 and gcc 2.95.x. Laguage=German If I load Snake, run it by F5 and cloese it I get the signal #11 . I have this not with 'classical' projects, who use 'Main' and '_New' to startup. Both project use only gb and gb.qt Not on gentoo 1.4rc4, KDE 3.1.2 , qt-3.1.2 and gcc 3.2.3 Laguage=English, doing the same May be that can help Charlie From ronstk at ...239... Sun Aug 31 19:14:45 2003 From: ronstk at ...239... (R Onstenk) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:14:45 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] LAST document example fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000201c36fe3$604379c0$2101a8c0@...240...> > > Message: 8 > From: Rob > To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] LAST document example fails > Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:40:55 -0400 > Reply-To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > On Saturday 30 August 2003 15:17, R Onstenk wrote: > > I think ther is a failure in the wiki doc for LAST. > > Fixed. Feel free to fix things like that when you find them; if=20 > for some reason your fixes don't work, we can always back out of=20 > them ;) > > Rob > > > My pleasure Rob. Ok, I stripped of the top part and the part below this message number 8 of the mail. Changed the subject to 'Re: ..... ' Let the To: as is. I am using outlook98 so what it does in the background is unknown. Ya ...98, I know but it is written in lowercase with reason but it is a left over of my job where it was the default mail program. Many people use a car to go to there job, I use a bike. Problems? Try to find a parking place for your car. But gets real, a car has more comfort. Thats the reason the use it. Same is the matter for using *nix versus *indows, emacs versus joe,vim, etc. and Gambas or Visual Tcl versus emacs to make your forms and appropiate code bound to it. Close. For fixes in the manual Rob, if I can help I will do but I am also a bit realistic. Not all what I see as a bug or typing error is it. For Gambas I am a newbie and have to read the manual more then people already working for a longer time with it. They know the right syntax in there mind and have already learned how to make there code in a proper way. If there are updates on the Gambas kernel then the manual is not always updated for minor changes or it is forgotten. That is the point where I can help for now. Detecting the inconsistent parts between manual and executing/programming code and report it. Not as a complain, even when it sounds that way, but as information. As you knows array type variable uses [] for index. In VB it is () and you have in one of your answers on a question this kind of mistakes also happens to you sometimes. Well I am a havy VBuser till now and a newbie for Gambas so I did many of those mistakes automatic. The same is when people write in other languages VB, PHP or assembly or scripting as jscript or the *nix version as bash, sh, ksh,zsh and who knows more (HTML/XML and variants). There is a automatic typing learned in the past time for that language and when you read the doc you will always find this things. The complexity of the language determines how much this thing wil happen. I prefer more the way the information is checked by Benoit or another advanced user before I edit the world wide manual and when I make a mistake everyone COMPLAIN against Gambas and Benoit. I should deserve the right to edit by qualty of the information instead of having the right anyway. Secondly, if I can make an example to help other users the example is running on my system (SuSE8.2, KDE3.1.1, OT3.1.1) and even if the other user has the same, I found one in the list, the behaviour and results are not always the same, he got other errors then I got. So here a check is also appropiate behaviour I think. ------------ Ron From crasto at ...249... Sun Aug 31 20:35:21 2003 From: crasto at ...249... (Crasto Family) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:05:21 +0530 Subject: [Gambas-user] Please help remove this error Message-ID: Hi, I downloaded gambas-0.65a tar file from your site and compiled it as under : .\configure --disable-mysql-driver make su -c "make install" Everything went thru' without any errors. However, when I run gambas, the following error is reported : [james at ...40... gambas-0.65a]$ gambas /usr/bin/gbx: relocation error: /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol: _ZNSs4_Rep11_S_terminalE I'm on RedHat 9 with QT 3.1 and gcc 3.2.2 How do I get gambas running ? Thank you in advance, James. From ronstk at ...239... Sun Aug 31 20:41:37 2003 From: ronstk at ...239... (R Onstenk) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:41:37 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: How do events work? part 2 Message-ID: <000301c36fef$82648b00$2101a8c0@...240...> Well the story goes on. Part 2. Starting with: PUBLIC SUB cbxParent_LostFocus()'Raised when the control loses the focus. did not work in my trial. ----8<------------- ' PRIVATE was not doing anything ' made it PUBLIC give stack overflow ' add STATIC still not working ' the the last one STATIC PRIVATE, also not working ' what hell is going wrong? STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxProduct_LostFocus()'Raised when the control loses the focus. Message ("cbxProduct_LostFocus") END ------->8-------- I have to confess, I did type it simple in my code. So I restart reading the docs and special the one with the BIG picture did it. In the HowTo 'use Events' at http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/events/index.html Thats nice. This is far better then the counterpart. There is dblclick creating simply the first one and for shure not the one you want. Here you can nice directly select the right one and I did it that way. Of cource I had my code commented out to compare the difference later. So I select the cbxProduct contol, then the LostFocus and arives in the code part to edit wat must be done and found just what I did typed in first trial. PUBLIC SUB cbxParent_LostFocus() END Added a PRINT "cbxParent_LostFocus" in it and tested. Working! Did the same thing for another event and tested. Working! Now I was a bit in a hurry and simple cut and paste it several times correcting the names_event so I end up with my posted example. The only difference is PRINT instead of MESSAGE and all working. Add the calls to my SUBs and working. I asumed that in the text describing the form there was also binding of events. In that way it was my fault to behave like VB where you simply type the event procudure (the object must exists of course) and go on. But also I know that in the VB code for the part describing the form there is no event binding. I was interested if it was done in a Gambas form so I look in the text with MC and found nothing in that way. I am lost why it works now but I have to confess it does also not realy what i want to do with those events, bad idee of me. One thing I did not try to checkout is if it works with MESSAGE as I had used in the first trial but the click event had it during the test so i asume it is the reason and the MESSAGE was added because the event did not run the required SUB. Note: Popup a MESSAGE had changed the focus so the events should go behave as idiots after all. This for other users, who try to help the end user on those events with a MESSAGE popup. From gambas at ...2... Sun Aug 31 21:29:31 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:29:31 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Porblem with classes In-Reply-To: <200308311141.15163.elentirmo@...20...> References: <200308311141.15163.elentirmo@...20...> Message-ID: <200308312129.31136.gambas@...2...> Le Dimanche 31 Ao?t 2003 11:41, Marco Bauer a ?crit : > Hi everyone, > > I'm somewhat new to OOP and right in my first project, which makes some use > of classes I encountered a problem with a call to a class which is directed > to a second class instanciated by the first one. The program exits with > 'The program has returned the value: 1'. THIS is a bug ! Please send me the project that raises this error. > So I tried to solve this by creating a simple example of this process and I > encountered yet another problem. 'Cause gambas tells me that class > 'CKlasse1' is static. What does that mean? I didn't declare it as static! > Can somebody please give me hint what's wrong? It didn't tell you that "CKlasse1" is static, but that "CKlasse2" is static. CKlasse2 has no global variables, so gambas assumes it is stupid to instanciate it. I admit that the error message is not very clear ! > > Gruss > Marco Bauer -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sun Aug 31 21:36:03 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:36:03 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Re: How do events work? part 2 In-Reply-To: <000301c36fef$82648b00$2101a8c0@...240...> References: <000301c36fef$82648b00$2101a8c0@...240...> Message-ID: <200308312136.03449.gambas@...2...> Le Dimanche 31 Ao?t 2003 20:41, R Onstenk a ?crit : > Well the story goes on. Part 2. > > Starting with: > PUBLIC SUB cbxParent_LostFocus()'Raised when the control loses the focus. > did not work in my trial. > > ----8<------------- > ' PRIVATE was not doing anything > ' made it PUBLIC give stack overflow > ' add STATIC still not working > ' the the last one STATIC PRIVATE, also not working > ' what hell is going wrong? > STATIC PRIVATE SUB cbxProduct_LostFocus()'Raised when the control loses the > focus. > Message ("cbxProduct_LostFocus") > END > ------->8-------- > I have to confess, I did type it simple in my code. > > So I restart reading the docs and special the one with the BIG picture did > it. > In the HowTo 'use Events' at > http://www.theeasygambasdoku.de/events/index.html > > Thats nice. This is far better then the counterpart. There is dblclick > creating simply the first one and for shure not the one you want. > Here you can nice directly select the right one and I did it that way. > Of cource I had my code commented out to compare the difference later. > > So I select the cbxProduct contol, then the LostFocus and arives in the > code part to edit wat must be done and found just what I did typed in first > trial. > PUBLIC SUB cbxParent_LostFocus() > > END > > Added a PRINT "cbxParent_LostFocus" in it and tested. Working! > Did the same thing for another event and tested. Working! > Now I was a bit in a hurry and simple cut and paste it several times > correcting the names_event so I end up with my posted example. > The only difference is PRINT instead of MESSAGE and all working. > Add the calls to my SUBs and working. When you want to trace events, use PRINT instead of Message, because Message display widgets, and so can badly interact with your events (especially LostFocus, GotFocus, Activate, DeActivate,...) with infinite loops, or even crashes ! > > I asumed that in the text describing the form there was also binding > of events. In that way it was my fault to behave like VB where you > simply type the event procudure (the object must exists of course) and > go on. But also I know that in the VB code for the part describing the > form there is no event binding. I was interested if it was done in a > Gambas form so I look in the text with MC and found nothing in that way. > > I am lost why it works now but I have to confess it does also not > realy what i want to do with those events, bad idee of me. One thing > I did not try to checkout is if it works with MESSAGE as I had used > in the first trial but the click event had it during the test so i > asume it is the reason and the MESSAGE was added because the event > did not run the required SUB. Event handlers must be PUBLIC and not PRIVATE like in VB. > > Note: > Popup a MESSAGE had changed the focus so the events should go > behave as idiots after all. This for other users, who try to > help the end user on those events with a MESSAGE popup. > Yes ! -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1... From gambas at ...2... Sun Aug 31 23:02:56 2003 From: gambas at ...2... (Benoit Minisini) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:02:56 +0200 Subject: [Gambas-user] Move to Paris ! Message-ID: <200308312302.56734.gambas@...2...> Hi mailing-list, I will move my computer to Paris tomorrow, and I don't think I will have a Internet access before one or two weeks. So I will be silent until September 10th I think. I'm currently working on a new ./configure script that will make easier adding and searching libraries, and that will automatically disable components if their corresponding libraries are not installed. See you soon... -- Benoit Minisini mailto:gambas at ...1...