From jusabejusabe at ...176...  Tue Nov 12 10:43:12 2013
From: jusabejusabe at ...176... (Julio Sanchez)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:43:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] (no subject)
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Estimated Beno?t:

I like to study and be made the Gambas3 Ide is there any documentation,
diagrams, schematics of the source code?

Best Regards

Julio S?nchez Berro (jsbsan)
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From sebikul at ...176...  Wed Nov 13 20:25:17 2013
From: sebikul at ...176... (Sebastian Kulesz)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:25:17 -0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Fwd:  What about cmake?
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From: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Date: Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-devel] What about cmake?
To: Sebastian Kulesz <sebikul at ...176...>


Le 13/11/2013 19:21, Sebastian Kulesz a ?crit :

>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Beno?t Minisini
> <gambas at ...1... <mailto:gambas at ...1...>>
> wrote:
>
>     Le 31/10/2013 22:37, Sebastian Kulesz a ?crit :
>
>         After a lot of struggle i managed to create a somewhat generic
>         set of
>         macros to build and install the needed components. Although the
>         runtime
>         installs just fine, i'm having trouble when running the Gambas
>         informer
>         to create the .info files. I tried reading the gbi.c file but found
>         nothing wrong with components are installed.
>
>
>     gbi3 shoud be run during installation time as root, after *each*
>     installation of a component.
>
>     Why? Because some components are Gambas projects that must be
>     compiled, and so they need the information files of other components.
>
>     Moreover, you must follow the compilation order defined in the
>     'comp/src/order' file for these Gambas-only components.
>
>
>
>         There is one difference
>         with the autoconf setup though; libtool is not supported by
>         cmake, so
>         gcc is called directly, not through the libtool file.
>         I'm think this last point might be the problem. If it is, is
>         there any
>         fix, or is libtool absolutely necessary?
>
>
>     I don't know. As I explained in another mail, Gambas shared-library
>     are not system libraries, but just extension to the interpreter.
>     Only the *.so file is needed. So there is a good luck for libtool
>     not to be needed.
>
>
> Then i'm doing it right. But still, for some reason, gbi3 can't find the
> component's .so files. If the .la file is present, it tries to load it,
> but as it is not a binary file it will fail (not sure why it is trying
> to load a text file).
>

Normally it should use only the *.so file. Where do you see that it tries
to load the "*.la" files?



> Do i need to install the .la files or can i just skip them? Are they
> needed by the informer o any other component?
>

Normally they are used only if a program uses the libtool library
(lt_dlopen in the source code).

Are there any side effects if i compile Gambas with libtool disabled by
default? Maybe that's the problem. At least to get it to work, i will look
into that later once the project can be installed and executed.



> Aside from that, the binary build system is finished (will do the Gambas
> one once i can install and run the interpreter). I still need to add
> some checks for a few components, but that can be done later.
>
> I won't have time to continue this work until December at least as
> finals are really close. If someone would like to continue, please let
> me know so that i can provide a tarball with the latest source.
>
>
Ask that on the mailing-list then. If you can claim big speed-up in
configuration time, maybe some people will help you! :-)

Well, i thought i was talking in the mailing list. Gmail defaults to reply
instead of reply to all. :P

The speedups are incredible. Full tree, less than 30 seconds for a full
configure, reconf is long gone now. It has some other advantages, like
building components out of the source tree. You can build distribution
packages right there, without knowing anything about packaging. Also,
compilation is a little bit faster, as gcc is invoked directly and not
through a wrapper script, and there is not much directory movement.

So, if you want to help let me know. Besides, cmake is really interesting
to learn.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini
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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Nov 13 20:51:26 2013
From: gambas at ...1... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 20:51:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] (no subject)
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Le 12/11/2013 10:43, Julio Sanchez a ?crit :
> Estimated Beno?t:
>
> I like to study and be made the Gambas3 Ide is there any documentation,
> diagrams, schematics of the source code?
>
> Best Regards
>
> Julio S?nchez Berro (jsbsan)
>

No. If you want to understand the IDE, you have to go deep inside the 
source code. The difficulty depends on your programming level. If you 
want more help, please explain what you want to do exactly (and check 
your english so that you are correctly understood!).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From mckaygerhard at ...176...  Thu Nov 28 17:42:48 2013
From: mckaygerhard at ...176... (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 12:12:48 -0430
Subject: [Gambas-devel] SAVEPOINT suport and nested standard transactions
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Reading documentastion for transactions i note that only mysqlito support
that and only by fes engines.. so then sqlite, postgres and odbc  do not
support..

since sqlite 3.6.16 and sybase 12 (including anywhere) support SAVEPOINTS
m,y question its:

Does gambas have the support into languaje for hconn.SavePoint(Optional
label) or hconn.SaveRelease(Optional label)?

due i do not see into documentation!

Refers:

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savepoint
2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nested_transaction


Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
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From gambas at ...1...  Thu Nov 28 18:46:55 2013
From: gambas at ...1... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 18:46:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] SAVEPOINT suport and nested standard transactions
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Le 28/11/2013 17:42, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a ?crit :
> Reading documentastion for transactions i note that only mysqlito
> support that and only by fes engines.. so then sqlite, postgres and
> odbc  do not support..
>
> since sqlite 3.6.16 and sybase 12 (including anywhere) support
> SAVEPOINTS m,y question its:
>
> Does gambas have the support into languaje for hconn.SavePoint(Optional
> label) or hconn.SaveRelease(Optional label)?
>
> due i do not see into documentation!
>
> Refers:
>
> 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savepoint
> 2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nested_transaction
>
>
> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>

There is no support for that in gb.db, as I'm not sure it is possible in 
the three DBMS supported by Gambas (PostgreSQL, MySQL and SQLite).

But you can use the Exec() method to issue any SQL command you want, so 
if there is a standard syntax for savepoints, I think you will be able 
to deal with that.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From mckaygerhard at ...176...  Fri Nov 29 22:42:58 2013
From: mckaygerhard at ...176... (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:12:58 -0430
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Reminder alert: gb.web example for benoit!
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i cited:

"As soon as Gambas 3.5 is released, I will start a "web site made with
Gambas" example. Maybe some sort of wiki with authentication and session
management. This is will be a single project. "Gambas server pages" will
not be used, as I'm against them."

this message its just only a reminder.. not more

 ^_^

je je

Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Nov 29 22:57:56 2013
From: gambas at ...1... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:57:56 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Reminder alert: gb.web example for benoit!
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Le 29/11/2013 22:42, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a ?crit :
> i cited:
>
> "As soon as Gambas 3.5 is released, I will start a "web site made with
> Gambas" example. Maybe some sort of wiki with authentication and session
> management. This is will be a single project. "Gambas server pages" will
> not be used, as I'm against them."
>
> this message its just only a reminder.. not more
>
>   ^_^
>
> je je
>
> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>

I know, I know. Just being busy with theater activity...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...176...  Fri Nov 29 23:51:14 2013
From: gambas.fr at ...176... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 23:51:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Reminder alert: gb.web example for benoit!
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lol, he don't know about your annual activity... But yes Benoit have
every year some busy month for the show

2013/11/29 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> Le 29/11/2013 22:42, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a ?crit :
>> i cited:
>>
>> "As soon as Gambas 3.5 is released, I will start a "web site made with
>> Gambas" example. Maybe some sort of wiki with authentication and session
>> management. This is will be a single project. "Gambas server pages" will
>> not be used, as I'm against them."
>>
>> this message its just only a reminder.. not more
>>
>>   ^_^
>>
>> je je
>>
>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>
>
> I know, I know. Just being busy with theater activity...
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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