From jredrejo at ...82...  Tue Mar  8 12:20:37 2011
From: jredrejo at ...82... (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Luis_Redrejo_Rodr=C3=ADguez?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:20:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Removal of gambas2 from Debian
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=h-rut4+r8qmtyCwLNngXddQt-FM9JyNUtxbvQ@...178...>

Hi,
Debian has among its targets for the next release removing kde3 and
qt3 from its archive.
As far as I know, gambas2 can not be compiled against  qt4 and kde4.

If that's not the case and it can be done, please tell it to me,
otherwise I'll ask for the removal of gambas2 from the Debian archive
within a week.

Regards.
Jos? L.



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Mar  8 18:19:54 2011
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:19:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Removal of gambas2 from Debian
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=h-rut4+r8qmtyCwLNngXddQt-FM9JyNUtxbvQ@...178...>
References: <AANLkTi=h-rut4+r8qmtyCwLNngXddQt-FM9JyNUtxbvQ@...178...>
Message-ID: <201103081819.54241.gambas@...1...>

> Hi,
> Debian has among its targets for the next release removing kde3 and
> qt3 from its archive.
> As far as I know, gambas2 can not be compiled against  qt4 and kde4.
> 
> If that's not the case and it can be done, please tell it to me,
> otherwise I'll ask for the removal of gambas2 from the Debian archive
> within a week.
> 
> Regards.
> Jos? L.
> 

OK. Gambas 2 will never compile agains qt4, so you should ask for its removal.

But:

Qt3 is graphically faster than Qt4 most of the time. 

Qt3 uses less memory.

Qt3 is usable through the network (X11 and NX), whereas Qt4 is far too slow, 
because it caches everything.

So if find that decision absolutely and deeply stupid. If you can tell Debian 
guys... ;-)

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jredrejo at ...82...  Tue Mar  8 20:16:51 2011
From: jredrejo at ...82... (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Luis_Redrejo_Rodr=C3=ADguez?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:16:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Removal of gambas2 from Debian
In-Reply-To: <201103081819.54241.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=h-rut4+r8qmtyCwLNngXddQt-FM9JyNUtxbvQ@...178...>
	<201103081819.54241.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinaucU94=hJt0GTOmqfRFo2tph636ZXGYmqKqC2@...178...>

2011/3/8 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>> Hi,
>> Debian has among its targets for the next release removing kde3 and
>> qt3 from its archive.
>> As far as I know, gambas2 can not be compiled against ?qt4 and kde4.
>>
>> If that's not the case and it can be done, please tell it to me,
>> otherwise I'll ask for the removal of gambas2 from the Debian archive
>> within a week.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Jos? L.
>>
>
> OK. Gambas 2 will never compile agains qt4, so you should ask for its removal.
>
> But:
>
> Qt3 is graphically faster than Qt4 most of the time.
>
> Qt3 uses less memory.
>
> Qt3 is usable through the network (X11 and NX), whereas Qt4 is far too slow,
> because it caches everything.
>
> So if find that decision absolutely and deeply stupid. If you can tell Debian
> guys... ;-)
>


No problem, I'll forward your email to the bug. Anyway, as far as I
remember the problem is not in Debian but in
Trolltech-Nokia-Whatever_name_it_has_now : they have said they're not
going to provide any kind of support (even security support) to qt3,
so a distribution can not guarantee its safe shape.

Regards.
Jos? L.


> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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From sbungay at ...642...  Wed Mar  9 22:13:20 2011
From: sbungay at ...642... (Stephen Bungay)
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:13:20 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Removal of gambas2 from Debian
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinaucU94=hJt0GTOmqfRFo2tph636ZXGYmqKqC2@...178...>
References: <AANLkTi=h-rut4+r8qmtyCwLNngXddQt-FM9JyNUtxbvQ@...178...>	<201103081819.54241.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinaucU94=hJt0GTOmqfRFo2tph636ZXGYmqKqC2@...178...>
Message-ID: <4D77ED70.9060804@...642...>

On 03/08/2011 02:16 PM, Jos? Luis Redrejo Rodr?guez wrote:
> 2011/3/8 Beno?t Minisini<gambas at ...1...>:
>>> Hi,
>>> Debian has among its targets for the next release removing kde3 and
>>> qt3 from its archive.
>>> As far as I know, gambas2 can not be compiled against  qt4 and kde4.
>>>
>>> If that's not the case and it can be done, please tell it to me,
>>> otherwise I'll ask for the removal of gambas2 from the Debian archive
>>> within a week.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Jos? L.
>>>
>> OK. Gambas 2 will never compile agains qt4, so you should ask for its removal.
>>
>> But:
>>
>> Qt3 is graphically faster than Qt4 most of the time.
>>
>> Qt3 uses less memory.
>>
>> Qt3 is usable through the network (X11 and NX), whereas Qt4 is far too slow,
>> because it caches everything.
>>
>> So if find that decision absolutely and deeply stupid. If you can tell Debian
>> guys... ;-)
>>
>
> No problem, I'll forward your email to the bug. Anyway, as far as I
> remember the problem is not in Debian but in
> Trolltech-Nokia-Whatever_name_it_has_now : they have said they're not
> going to provide any kind of support (even security support) to qt3,
> so a distribution can not guarantee its safe shape.
>
> Regards.
> Jos? L.
>
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> What You Don't Know About Data Connectivity CAN Hurt You
>> This paper provides an overview of data connectivity, details
>> its effect on application quality, and explores various alternative
>> solutions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/progress-d2d
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-devel mailing list
>> Gambas-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-devel
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What You Don't Know About Data Connectivity CAN Hurt You
> This paper provides an overview of data connectivity, details
> its effect on application quality, and explores various alternative
> solutions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/progress-d2d
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-devel mailing list
> Gambas-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-devel
Agree with Benoit.



From kevinfishburne at ...590...  Sat Mar 12 03:16:54 2011
From: kevinfishburne at ...590... (Kevin Fishburne)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:16:54 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-devel] gb3: compiling creates desktop launcher
Message-ID: <4D7AD796.7040207@...590...>

I think this functionality should be optional via project properties or 
disabled entirely. It overwrites my existing launcher, which is 
extremely irritating. Also anyone programming a GAMBAS project should be 
familiar enough with their own operating system to manually create their 
own launcher if they desire one, so theoretically the functionality is 
unnecessary anyway.

-- 
Kevin Fishburne
Eight Virtues
www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com
e-mail: sales at ...590...
phone: (770) 853-6271




From gambas at ...1...  Sat Mar 12 14:34:28 2011
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:34:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] gb3: compiling creates desktop launcher
In-Reply-To: <4D7AD796.7040207@...590...>
References: <4D7AD796.7040207@...590...>
Message-ID: <201103121434.28422.gambas@...1...>

> I think this functionality should be optional via project properties or
> disabled entirely. It overwrites my existing launcher, which is
> extremely irritating. Also anyone programming a GAMBAS project should be
> familiar enough with their own operating system to manually create their
> own launcher if they desire one, so theoretically the functionality is
> unnecessary anyway.

This is optional: you have a check box for that in the executable creation 
dialog.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From kevinfishburne at ...590...  Sat Mar 12 20:07:52 2011
From: kevinfishburne at ...590... (Kevin Fishburne)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:07:52 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-devel] gb3: compiling creates desktop launcher
In-Reply-To: <201103121434.28422.gambas@...1...>
References: <4D7AD796.7040207@...590...>
	<201103121434.28422.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4D7BC488.7060909@...590...>

On 03/12/2011 08:34 AM, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> I think this functionality should be optional via project properties or
>> disabled entirely. It overwrites my existing launcher, which is
>> extremely irritating. Also anyone programming a GAMBAS project should be
>> familiar enough with their own operating system to manually create their
>> own launcher if they desire one, so theoretically the functionality is
>> unnecessary anyway.
> This is optional: you have a check box for that in the executable creation
> dialog.

Sorry... I'm blind sometimes it seems. I found it.

-- 
Kevin Fishburne
Eight Virtues
www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com
e-mail: sales at ...590...
phone: (770) 853-6271