From pokerbirch at ...612...  Thu Nov  6 14:43:56 2008
From: pokerbirch at ...612... (birchy)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:43:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-devel]  A suggestion for multi platform Gambas
Message-ID: <20360749.post@...565...>


I've just discovered that you do not need to know Java syntax in order to
write a program that compiles and runs on the Java Virtual Machine. So the
obvious question is: could Gambas be made to compile and run on the JVM
which would make it multi-platform without having to do any O.S. specific
coding?
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From henrique.andreassy at ...241...  Thu Nov  6 14:46:21 2008
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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:46:21 -0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] A suggestion for multi platform Gambas
Message-ID: <963009994@...241...>

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From gambas at ...1...  Thu Nov  6 14:46:43 2008
From: gambas at ...1... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:46:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] A suggestion for multi platform Gambas
In-Reply-To: <20360749.post@...565...>
References: <20360749.post@...565...>
Message-ID: <200811061446.43466.gambas@...1...>

On jeudi 6 novembre 2008, birchy wrote:
> I've just discovered that you do not need to know Java syntax in order to
> write a program that compiles and runs on the Java Virtual Machine. So the
> obvious question is: could Gambas be made to compile and run on the JVM
> which would make it multi-platform without having to do any O.S. specific
> coding?

The answer is globally no, because they are features inside the Gambas 
interpreter that do not exist in Java, AFAIK.

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From pokerbirch at ...612...  Thu Nov  6 15:43:19 2008
From: pokerbirch at ...612... (birchy)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:43:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-devel] A suggestion for multi platform Gambas
In-Reply-To: <200811061446.43466.gambas@...1...>
References: <20360749.post@...565...>
	<200811061446.43466.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <20362363.post@...565...>



Bugzilla from gambas at ...1... wrote:
> The answer is globally no, because they are features inside the Gambas
> interpreter that do not exist in Java, AFAIK.

Ok, fair comment. It was just a crazy idea i had.

Keep up the good work, i'm new to Gambas but really enjoying it since i
turned my back on all things M$.
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From gambas.fr at ...176...  Thu Nov  6 15:54:52 2008
From: gambas.fr at ...176... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:54:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] A suggestion for multi platform Gambas
In-Reply-To: <20362363.post@...565...>
References: <20360749.post@...565...>
	<200811061446.43466.gambas@...1...>
	<20362363.post@...565...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0811060654y1806b684yb7fa27f8107bd27e@...178...>

M$ have not all so bad ... just their systems and some coding tools
hare to put in the trash...

2008/11/6 birchy <pokerbirch at ...612...>:
>
>
> Bugzilla from gambas at ...1... wrote:
>> The answer is globally no, because they are features inside the Gambas
>> interpreter that do not exist in Java, AFAIK.
>
> Ok, fair comment. It was just a crazy idea i had.
>
> Keep up the good work, i'm new to Gambas but really enjoying it since i
> turned my back on all things M$.
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From gambas.fr at ...176...  Fri Nov  7 15:15:05 2008
From: gambas.fr at ...176... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:15:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Some new littles things
Message-ID: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>

Hi benoit ,

I've done some little things that copy some py libs... like the openUrl.

Did you think we can make some gb.lib extention that contain that ?

for exemple that allow to extend the File class with a new function
File.LoadUrl(Url, Proxy)

This function allow to to read directly a web page in one shot. and
return it in a string

Really usefull to parse web page.

It's juste one function for now but i'm sure i will find more of them :)

Fabien



From pokerbirch at ...612...  Fri Nov  7 15:35:16 2008
From: pokerbirch at ...612... (birchy)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:35:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Some new littles things
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>
References: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>
Message-ID: <20381709.post@...565...>



Fabien Bodard-4 wrote:
> This function allow to to read directly a web page in one shot. and
> return it in a string

You have read my mind! This is exactly the kind of tool that i would use in
a LOT of my projects. At the moment i am using the HttpClient of
gb.web.curl. A HTML parsing library would be excellent, but i don't know how
easy it would be to write one as html is not as uniform as xml.
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From ron at ...572...  Fri Nov  7 15:54:27 2008
From: ron at ...572... (Ron)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:54:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Some new littles things
In-Reply-To: <20381709.post@...565...>
References: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>
	<20381709.post@...565...>
Message-ID: <491456A3.6080605@...572...>

birchy schreef:
> Fabien Bodard-4 wrote:
>   
>> This function allow to to read directly a web page in one shot. and
>> return it in a string
>>     
>
> You have read my mind! This is exactly the kind of tool that i would use in
> a LOT of my projects. At the moment i am using the HttpClient of
> gb.web.curl. A HTML parsing library would be excellent, but i don't know how
> easy it would be to write one as html is not as uniform as xml.
>   

I have these kind of routines in my code too, would be nice if those 
where standard.

Regards.



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Nov  7 15:57:38 2008
From: gambas at ...1... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:57:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Some new littles things
In-Reply-To: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>
References: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>
Message-ID: <200811071557.38348.gambas@...1...>

On vendredi 7 novembre 2008, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> Hi benoit ,
>
> I've done some little things that copy some py libs... like the openUrl.
>
> Did you think we can make some gb.lib extention that contain that ?
>
> for exemple that allow to extend the File class with a new function
> File.LoadUrl(Url, Proxy)
>
> This function allow to to read directly a web page in one shot. and
> return it in a string
>
> Really usefull to parse web page.
>
> It's juste one function for now but i'm sure i will find more of them :)
>
> Fabien
>

What is the problem with using HttpClient in gb.net.curl?

-- 
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From gambas.fr at ...176...  Fri Nov  7 16:03:56 2008
From: gambas.fr at ...176... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:03:56 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Some new littles things
In-Reply-To: <200811071557.38348.gambas@...1...>
References: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>
	<200811071557.38348.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <6324a42a0811070703p4f6ae611lbdd4b3fa9f65232f@...178...>

2008/11/7 Benoit Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> On vendredi 7 novembre 2008, Fabien Bodard wrote:
>> Hi benoit ,
>>
>> I've done some little things that copy some py libs... like the openUrl.
>>
>> Did you think we can make some gb.lib extention that contain that ?
>>
>> for exemple that allow to extend the File class with a new function
>> File.LoadUrl(Url, Proxy)
>>
>> This function allow to to read directly a web page in one shot. and
>> return it in a string
>>
>> Really usefull to parse web page.
>>
>> It's juste one function for now but i'm sure i will find more of them :)
>>
>> Fabien
>>
>
> What is the problem with using HttpClient in gb.net.curl?
>
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Nothing ... in fact i was just reallise that this kind of extention
must be in the HttpClient Itself



From pokerbirch at ...612...  Fri Nov  7 16:36:51 2008
From: pokerbirch at ...612... (birchy)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:36:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Some new littles things
In-Reply-To: <200811071557.38348.gambas@...1...>
References: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>
	<200811071557.38348.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <20382898.post@...565...>



Bugzilla from gambas at ...1... wrote:
> What is the problem with using HttpClient in gb.net.curl?

That is what i'm currently using and it seems to work ok. I think that curl
can handle cookies and therefore gb should also have this ability? I'd also
like to be able to set headers other than the "user-agent" but this doesn't
seem to be available? And what about gZip? How would i set the
"Accept-Encoding: gzip" header and implement gZip decompression within my
http routines? The documentation seems incomplete. Does gb.net.curl use ALL
of the curl features?
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From ronstk at ...124...  Fri Nov  7 16:57:28 2008
From: ronstk at ...124... (Ron Onstenk)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:57:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Some new littles things
In-Reply-To: <20381709.post@...565...>
References: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>
	<20381709.post@...565...>
Message-ID: <200811071657.28956.ronstk@...124...>

On Friday 07 November 2008, birchy wrote:
> 
> Fabien Bodard-4 wrote:
> > This function allow to to read directly a web page in one shot. and
> > return it in a string

Not realy. how about the required cookies, passing variable to the site like
http://www.google.fr/?q=gambas+HttpClient&l=fr_FR
with cookies telling the porno save search method in you preferences.
> 
> You have read my mind! This is exactly the kind of tool that i would use in
> a LOT of my projects.

As in the linux world everything is a file the file component main usage is
file storage as files on the hdd.

> At the moment i am using the HttpClient of 
> gb.web.curl. 

Correct while this component gb.net.curl is build for handling this kind
of files.
This accepts fragmented files from the server as the file component can't do.

> A HTML parsing library would be excellent, but i don't know how 
> easy it would be to write one as html is not as uniform as xml.

html is xml but xml is not html.

With the in <doctype declared file you should use the *.dtd to parse the html file.
If this is missing on hobby sites you take 1 of the 4/5 existing ones.

The biggest problem with html files is the incorrect usage of elements in places where 
they are not allowed to be. 
i.e. using text decoration tags outside the container where the text live.

<u>
<b>
<p>
underlined bold text
</p>
</u>
</b>

despite it works almost the U and B tags must be inside the P, 
secondly the closing U and B are reverse order as the open.
In this example the strict.dtd should fail but transitional may work.

In fact it is not that HTML is not uniform or the parser but the
website developer is the bad guy :)
I'v seen this kind of code also in web pages made with non webpage editors
as MS Word (play a little with colorize, U and B and you see the carbage result.

About easy, it will not be the case in respect to invent all the variations you hit.
A good example to look how complex it can be is the source of firefox.
What you want is the DOM representation.

The only thing I see is usage of the KHTML(gecko) library available in the web component.
Just what we need is a multi dimension array containing the DOM or
a gambas interface to request objects from the DOM and is partial alread in the xml
component.
In VB this is the WebBrowser and WebBrowser2 component.

Just my 2 cents

Ron 1st




From gambas at ...1...  Wed Nov 12 17:00:45 2008
From: gambas at ...1... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:00:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Some new littles things
In-Reply-To: <20382898.post@...565...>
References: <6324a42a0811070615k313d44abp50fcebfdc2022e25@...178...>
	<200811071557.38348.gambas@...1...>
	<20382898.post@...565...>
Message-ID: <200811121700.45981.gambas@...1...>

On vendredi 7 novembre 2008, birchy wrote:
> Bugzilla from gambas at ...1... wrote:
> > What is the problem with using HttpClient in gb.net.curl?
>
> That is what i'm currently using and it seems to work ok. I think that curl
> can handle cookies and therefore gb should also have this ability? I'd also
> like to be able to set headers other than the "user-agent" but this doesn't
> seem to be available? And what about gZip? How would i set the
> "Accept-Encoding: gzip" header and implement gZip decompression within my
> http routines? The documentation seems incomplete. Does gb.net.curl use ALL
> of the curl features?

As stated in the similar thread on the user mailing-list:

HttpClient.CookieFile allows you to define a file where cookies will be read.

And HttpClient.UpdateCookies should tell if the previous file will be updated 
during the HTTP request.

gb.xml already know how to parse HTML. The XMLDocument 
class has a 'HTMLFromString' method for that. 

As for gzip encoding, I don't know if HttpClient can deal with that. A test is 
needed.

Regards,

-- 
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From henrique.andreassy at ...241...  Wed Nov 12 17:02:27 2008
From: henrique.andreassy at ...241... (=?utf-8?B?RWRpc29uIEhlbnJpcXVlIEFuZHJlYXNzeSAoQ2V0aWwgLSBTdXBvcnRlIFTDqWNuaWNvKQ==?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:02:27 -0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Some new littles things
Message-ID: <963407949@...241...>

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From gambas at ...1...  Fri Nov 21 13:32:51 2008
From: gambas at ...1... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:32:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] [Gambas-devel-svn] Image help.
In-Reply-To: <1227018352.4922d0701484e@...614...>
References: <1227018352.4922d0701484e@...614...>
Message-ID: <200811211332.51369.gambas@...1...>

On mardi 18 novembre 2008, Wellington de Souza Pinto wrote:
> Hi!
>
> My english is not very well, but i'm need help.
>
>
> I have this functions and yours returns
>
>         unsigned char *wimg;
>         wimg = fp_img_get_data(img);
>
>         // This function Return my image in map of bits
>         // For understand! if i write an file in this mode work fine (This
> is write for .pgm format)
>
>         ...
>         width = fp_img_get_width(img);
>         height = fp_img_get_height(img);
>
>         r = fprintf(fd, "P5 %d %d 255\n", width, height);
>         if (r < 0) {
>                 printf("pgm header write failed, error %d", r);
>                 return r;
>         }
>
>         size_t write_size = width * height;
>
>         r = fwrite(wimg, 1, write_size, fd);
>         if (r < write_size) {
>                 printf("short write (%d)", r);
>                 return -1;
>         }
>
>         fclose(fd);
>         ...
>
>        How to i convert the type (wimg) for use with GB.ReturnObject()
> function? I'm need return an image.
>
>        My C hability is not very well yet.
>
> Reguars,
>
> any ideia (wspinto at ...613...)
>

First: do not send e-mails to the developer svn mailing-list, this 
mailing-list is just for getting svn commit reports.

Second: you should enhance your C habilities, otherwise you may not understand 
the following.

Let's start the explanation anyway...

You can't return a C pointer directly, Gambas can't use it. GB.ReturnObject() 
returns a Gambas object.

If you want to use a C (or a C++) pointer that points at something useful 
through a Gambas object, you must reference the pointer inside the Gambas 
object structure.

For example, the Control Gambas object has a pointer to the internal Qt widget 
C++ object.

Then, you must take care about the life of your object: 

- When the Gambas object is destroyed, then the underlying C or C++ object 
must be freed.

- When the underlying C/C++ object is freed by the library (not by the Gambas 
interpreter), your code must catch it, and makes the object invalid. You do 
that by: storing NULL in the C/C++ pointer located in the Gambas object 
structure, and use the GB_HOOK_CHECK() macro to implement a check function 
that returns TRUE when the Gambas object is invalid, i.e. then the previous 
pointer is NULL.

I suggest you read the source code of a simple component, like gb.eval, to see 
how the basic things work. An example of GB_HOOK_CHECK() is located in the 
CWidget.cpp file on the gb.qt source code.

As for the GB.Image() lack of documentation: the documentation is old, it is 
for Gambas 1. If I have time, I will try to complete the documentation. But 
if you had explain what you did exactly, I would have talked about these API 
functions before you find them by yourself.

Regards,

-- 
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From henrique.andreassy at ...241...  Fri Nov 21 13:34:20 2008
From: henrique.andreassy at ...241... (=?utf-8?B?RWRpc29uIEhlbnJpcXVlIEFuZHJlYXNzeSAoQ2V0aWwgLSBTdXBvcnRlIFTDqWNuaWNvKQ==?=)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:34:20 -0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] [Gambas-devel-svn] Image help.
Message-ID: <963990602@...241...>

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From pokerbirch at ...612...  Sat Nov 29 21:03:22 2008
From: pokerbirch at ...612... (birchy)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:03:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-devel]  Component request: SOAP Web Services
Message-ID: <20750861.post@...565...>


As posted in 
http://www.nabble.com/Web-Services%3A-Working-with-WSDL-td20328779.html THIS 
gambas-user thread, i have an interest in using Gambas for my internet
related projects.  http://www.w3schools.com/soap/default.aspl SOAP  is a W3C
standard protocol that has become VERY common for interacting with web
information services, for example: Google, Amazon, Paypal, Ebay, Microsoft,
Betfair, etc, all offer SOAP based API.

Many programming languages such as   http://wiki.netbeans.org/SOAPNetBeans6
Java ,  http://www.codeproject.com/KB/XML/soap12inNet20.aspx .Net  and 
http://developer.apple.com/internet/webservices/soapphp.html PHP  offer
automatic code/class generation for SOAP Web Services, and i would like to
see this feature available in Gambas.

I have spent a lot of time researching various methods that would allow
Gambas to have Web Services and by far the simplest appears to be the open
source  http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~engelen/soap.html gSOAP  library which is
both multi platform AND included in most Linux repositories. In similar
fashion to the above named languages, this lib auto-generates both XML files
AND C/C++ code from a given 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Services_Description_Language WSDL  file. I
am not familiar with C/C++ code but i believe that this lib would be a
perfect base for a Gambas Web Services component??

Would anyone else be interested in this component?
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