From pchapman at ...33...  Sat Jul 12 16:58:45 2003
From: pchapman at ...33... (Philip A. Chapman)
Date: 12 Jul 2003 09:58:45 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-devel] [Fwd: Re: [Gambas-user] Embedded Database]
Message-ID: <1058021925.19113.1.camel@...34...>

For the edification of others....

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> From: Benoit Minisini <gambas at ...20...>
> To: Philip A. Chapman <pchapman at ...33...>
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Embedded Database
> Date: 12 Jul 2003 12:34:16 +0200
> 
> Le Jeudi 10 Juillet 2003 16:54, vous avez ?crit :
> > On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 16:08, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> > > Let's decide that all incorrect or unknown datatypes become String.
> >
> > That is acceptable.  I will parse the strings which are provided from
> > SQLite as datatype.  If the data type word matches one defined by SQL97,
> > I will translate it into the gambas native type.  If it cannot be
> > converted to the native type, I will raise an error.  I feel the need to
> > specify this since you can store any string value in a field no matter
> > what the column type says.
> >
> > > It is not very important, as creating tables from the gb.db interface
> > > implies a control from the driver - It transforms the table description
> > > filled by the user into a SQL compliant CREATE TABLE statement.
> >
> > I respectfully disagree.  I believe that this is important because the
> > developer may want to A) use gambas to access a SQLite database created
> > by a different program, such as the SQLite command line utility or B)
> > create the tables in the database using embedded SQL (passing in a
> > create statement) from within the application rather than Gambas' db
> > interface.  In such situations, Gambas has no control over what the
> > datatype names are for the tables.  I think that the above decision will
> > help Gambas deal with this issue.
> 
> Hmmm... You are right. But don't forget to cache the CREATE TABLE statement 
> analyze !
> 
> Don't hesitate to go on the devel mailing-list, because, this way, all the 
> explanations I will be able to give you, will be able to be read by other 
> people. (The mailing-lists are automatically archived, and can be browsed 
> with a search engine).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> -- 
> Benoit Minisini
> mailto:gambas at ...1...
-- 
Philip A. Chapman

Application Development:
Java, Visual Basic, PostgreSQL, MySQL, MSSQL
Linux, Windows 9x, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP
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From eng_ak at ...43...  Tue Jul 22 23:18:01 2003
From: eng_ak at ...43... (Ahmad Kamal)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 00:18:01 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Re: SDL component
In-Reply-To: <200307222002.16295.gambas@...20...>
References: <3F1CF957.5050302@...43...>
 <3F1CF957.5050302@...43...>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030723001512.038a81c0@...44...>

Well, why don't you give us your opinion about the SDL component. BTW, I as 
talking about making the SDL sound  components, not video, I/O, network, 
everything else.... That's a lot of work. Perhaps, we should make each one 
of these a separate component: (SDL_sound, SDL_network,....)

Thnx

At 09:02 PM 7/22/2003, you wrote:

>OK. I have many ideas about SDL component, and I will tell you on the devel
>mailing-list.
>
>Post a mail about SDL component on the DEVEL mailing-list, and I will answer
>you.
>
>Regards,
>
>--
>Benoit Minisini
>mailto:gambas at ...1...

From danielcampos at ...45...  Fri Jul 25 08:47:42 2003
From: danielcampos at ...45... (danielcampos at ...45...)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:47:42 CEST
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Tr: Re: Spanish translation for Database Manager
Message-ID: <mnet2.1059115662.25910.danielcampos@...45...>



----Message r?exp?di?----

>
>Le Jeudi 24 Juillet 2003 21:57, vous avez ?crit :
>> Hi!
>>
>> Here's spanish translation for database manager. (I've renamed
>> it as es_db.po)
>>
>>  Apart from this, yesterday I was thinking to create a socket-component,
>> may something like VB Winsock control, and i took a look at
>> component-example in sources, but there's a thing that's a little
>> confusing to me:
>>
>> If I want to send events from this socket-component should I use
>> QT (graphical components), or can I do I without any graphical library?
>>
>> I didn't like to use graphical components because:
>>
>> 1) Sockets should be independent from graphical part.
>> 2) I know a little about GTK but nothing about QT :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>
>Hi Daniel,
>
>I invite you going on the developer mailing-list so that we can talk about 
>that. Could you repost your mail there ?
>
>By talking through the mailing-list, we can share information about components 
>with other people !
>
>Regards,
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini
>mailto:benoit.minisini at ...20...
>

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From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...19...  Sun Jul 27 06:47:27 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...19... (Rob)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:47:27 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Tr: Re: Spanish translation for Database Manager
In-Reply-To: <mnet2.1059115662.25910.danielcampos@...45...>
References: <mnet2.1059115662.25910.danielcampos@...45...>
Message-ID: <200307270047.27104.sourceforge-raindog2@...19...>

Daniel and Benoit wrote:
> >> If I want to send events from this socket-component should I use
> >> QT (graphical components), or can I do I without any graphical library?
> >> I didn't like to use graphical components because:
> >> 1) Sockets should be independent from graphical part.
> >> 2) I know a little about GTK but nothing about QT :)
> >By talking through the mailing-list, we can share information about
> > components with other people !

I had been thinking for some time about prototyping a socket component 
(client) by writing a Gambas library that wraps something like netcat.  Then 
people could suggest changes here and on gambas-user to make it more usable 
as a general tool, and ultimately someone writing a real socket component 
would have documented ideas for how to implement their API, all ready to go.

If you're interested in writing the socket component, I'd recommend this 
approach.  And I definitely agree on point 1, because in my opinion anything 
that doesn't throw windows up on the screen should be independent of Qt and 
Gtk ;)

Rob




From nigel at ...2...  Mon Jul 28 17:34:12 2003
From: nigel at ...2... (Nigel Gerrard)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:34:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Socket Component
Message-ID: <00cf01c3551d$cc79e920$000a0a0a@...46...>

Benoit,

I have been looking at a Socket component for Gambas for several weeks now..trying to fit it in between my day job which is still fairly hectic at the moment.

Attached is a work in progress component ( with a basic server and client test program) which might be useful for some of the discussion that has been going on.  There are several problems with it at the moment...especially around the server side using a timer for polling.  There is also an issue with a warning message being displayed about 'allocations not being freed' - I believe it is probably due to NEW adding to the symbol list.

Feedback will be useful on whether this can be used to move forward...I guess ultimately we are likely to want to use .NET (dotGNU and/or MONO...but I can't get my head around them at the moment.)


Nigel
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From sourceforge-raindog2 at ...19...  Mon Jul 28 17:50:27 2003
From: sourceforge-raindog2 at ...19... (Rob)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:50:27 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Socket Component
In-Reply-To: <00cf01c3551d$cc79e920$000a0a0a@...46...>
References: <00cf01c3551d$cc79e920$000a0a0a@...46...>
Message-ID: <200307281150.27691.sourceforge-raindog2@...19...>

On Monday 28 July 2003 11:34, Nigel Gerrard wrote:
> Feedback will be useful on whether this can be used to move forward...I
> guess ultimately we are likely to want to use .NET (dotGNU and/or
> MONO...but I can't get my head around them at the moment.)

Which is just as well, because Benoit's already said in the FAQ that he 
doesn't want to target .NET.  I don't know if you can write one component in 
.NET/.GNU/Mono without having the entire rest of the system have to be 
targeted to the VM as well.

I saw that someone added "Will Gambas be compatible with Parrot?" to the FAQ 
on the wiki, as though that were different than Java or .NET somehow.  I 
wonder if it would be possible for interested parties to translate Gambas 
bytecode to <VM flavor of the week> bytecode someday... but I personally 
don't see the need.

Rob




From blackwitch at ...47...  Tue Jul 29 16:32:57 2003
From: blackwitch at ...47... (blackwitch)
Date: 29 Jul 2003 16:32:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Re: Gambas-devel digest, Vol 1 #46 - 2 msgs
In-Reply-To: <E19hKtD-00047H-00@...48...>
References: <E19hKtD-00047H-00@...48...>
Message-ID: <1059489177.2111.5.camel@...49...>

Hi!


 As I receive a simple "Gambas-digest" (all messages merged
in a simple file), now I am not able to extract from it the files about
sockets. Could you resend it to me to my personal address? 

 I have some multithreated code for sockets, and maybe it could
help with the problems in the code you sent...

Thanks

danielcampos at ...45...



El mar, 29-07-2003 a las 05:09,
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> Benoit,
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> I have been looking at a Socket component for Gambas for several weeks =
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> 
> Attached is a work in progress component ( with a basic server and =
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> that has been going on.  There are several problems with it at the =
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> There is also an issue with a warning message being displayed about =
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> adding to the symbol list.
> 
> Feedback will be useful on whether this can be used to move forward...I =
> guess ultimately we are likely to want to use .NET (dotGNU and/or =
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> Nigel
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> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 2
> From: Rob <sourceforge-raindog2 at ...19...>
> To: gambas-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-devel] Socket Component
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:50:27 -0400
> Reply-To: gambas-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> 
> On Monday 28 July 2003 11:34, Nigel Gerrard wrote:
> > Feedback will be useful on whether this can be used to move forward...I
> > guess ultimately we are likely to want to use .NET (dotGNU and/or
> > MONO...but I can't get my head around them at the moment.)
> 
> Which is just as well, because Benoit's already said in the FAQ that he=20
> doesn't want to target .NET.  I don't know if you can write one component=
>  in=20
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From gambas at ...20...  Tue Jul 29 21:51:31 2003
From: gambas at ...20... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:51:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Socket Component
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Le Lundi 28 Juillet 2003 17:34, Nigel Gerrard a ?crit :
> Benoit,
>
> I have been looking at a Socket component for Gambas for several weeks
> now..trying to fit it in between my day job which is still fairly hectic at
> the moment.
>
> Attached is a work in progress component ( with a basic server and client
> test program) which might be useful for some of the discussion that has
> been going on.  There are several problems with it at the
> moment...especially around the server side using a timer for polling. 
> There is also an issue with a warning message being displayed about
> 'allocations not being freed' - I believe it is probably due to NEW adding
> to the symbol list.
>
> Feedback will be useful on whether this can be used to move forward...I
> guess ultimately we are likely to want to use .NET (dotGNU and/or
> MONO...but I can't get my head around them at the moment.)
>
>
> Nigel

Here is what I thought about a network component. I imagined one component for 
connecting to a socket as a client, and one other component to let a 
application becoming a server.

As you quickly noticed, Nigel, there is a polling problem. You have a Gambas 
API function named "GB.Watch" that tells the interpreter that he must watch a 
file descriptor. Search "GB_Watch" (yes, with an underscore) in "CProcess.c".

This "client" component will almost be the same as your Socket component.

But the "server" component will be something more sophisticated. It will 
transform a Gambas application into a true TCP/IP server. The programmer will 
just have to specifiy a port number and a protocol. The component will do all 
the polling, all the accept stuff, and will manage each connection in the 
same process (no fork, no thread, the interpreter won't support them). The 
Gambas programmer will have nothing to do. As simple as possible !

I quickly looked your socket component, and there are problems, but it is just 
a lack of information about how to make components.

When the Gambas API documention will be finished, everything will be easier to 
program and understand of course !

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From gambas at ...20...  Tue Jul 29 22:08:53 2003
From: gambas at ...20... (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:08:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Re: SDL component
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Le Mardi 22 Juillet 2003 23:18, Ahmad Kamal a ?crit :
> Well, why don't you give us your opinion about the SDL component. BTW, I as
> talking about making the SDL sound  components, not video, I/O, network,
> everything else.... That's a lot of work. Perhaps, we should make each one
> of these a separate component: (SDL_sound, SDL_network,....)
>
> Thnx

It's exactly what I thought.

I think the more interesting is the SDL sound part + SDL_mixer library, to add 
a multi-track sound system to a gambas program.

The problem is that this sound component must be compatible with the event 
loop management of the qt component. Something to study...

The other problem is to create a easy interface to the SDL functions, not just 
use them directly. It is a matter of design thinking...

-- 
Benoit Minisini
mailto:gambas at ...1...



From Gambasfr at ...4...  Tue Jul 29 23:25:58 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...4... (Fabien BODARD)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:25:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Gambas Logo
Message-ID: <200307292325.58537.Gambasfr@...4...>

Hi to all

I write today about gambas and his logo...

I've designed the current one about one year ago... but... Now, Gambas, must
to have something more modern. So, i've started to learn, Blender design.

Blender, because, i think it's the more advenced GPL 3D designer. (If you
 have other suggest...say it !)

But, i think, some help, while be welcome to won some time. I've trying, to
desing my gambas... But i've a lack of knowledge.

I wan't to re-use my 2D logo to make a 3D one in the same idea. After, we'll
can make, pretty and funny animation for the gambas compagnon. And, gambas
can have a look more professionnal.

If you want to help me... Send me a mail !

Fabien Bodard




From Gambasfr at ...4...  Tue Jul 29 23:15:14 2003
From: Gambasfr at ...4... (Fabien BODARD)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:15:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Gambas Logo
Message-ID: <200307292315.14691.Gambasfr@...4...>

Hi to all

I write today about gambas and his logo...

I've designed the current one about one year ago... but... Now, Gambas, must 
to have something more modern. So, i've started to learn, Blender design.

Blender, because, i think it's the more advenced GPL 3D designer. (If you have 
other suggest...say it !)

But, i think, some help, while be welcome to won some time. I've trying, to 
desing my gambas... But i've a lack of knowledge.

I wan't to re-use my 2D logo to make a 3D one in the same idea. After, we'll 
can make, pretty and funny animation for the gambas compagnon. And, gambas 
can have a look more professionnal.

If you want to help me... Send me a mail !

Fabien Bodard



From eng_ak at ...43...  Wed Jul 30 08:47:24 2003
From: eng_ak at ...43... (Ahmad Kamal)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:47:24 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-devel] Re: SDL component
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