Re: [Slightly OT] What Desktop Environment is the most X11-friendly now?

[Bruce Steers <bsteers4@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 at 13:32, Lily White <lilywhite2005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Gambas still works abysmally on Wayland, and wayland is also breaking
> for me elsewhere, so I'm thinking of switching back to X11. However,
> most major DEs like GNOME have already abolished X11, or will do so in
> the next few releases.
>
> What DE is, comparatively, still treating X11 as first-class citizens?
> What is your recommendation?
>
> (Although, with X11 I'd need to fight with fractional scaling, but
> that's another story)
>
> Lily


I've always used MATE because i am a fan of the old Gnome2 way of doing
things.
So my personal preference would recommend MATE.

When Gnome2 was abolished for gnome3 it created 2 new Gnome2 forks, MATE
and Cinnamon.  (the Gnome2 die=hards)
Cinnamon is now doing wayland (experimental) but MATE has yet to move
towards it.

But i would not count x11 as fully out yet.  gnome3 was supposed to replace
Gnome2 but community interests developed 2 new DEs instead so in a way
Gnome2 did not vanish completely, it evolved into 2 new things.
I suspect a similar fate for x11. it's popularity and preference to wayland
will probably keep it alive and developers interests happy.

Respects
BruceS