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Re: Upgrading the system and installing Gambas from binary packages

I had issues with migrating from 11 to 12, I'm not sure if there are any with 12 to 13. 

25.11.2025 16:48, Bruce Steers пишет:
Well there absolutely should not be any issues if just using the distro repositories gambas and not a gambas OBS one. Ubuntu has gambas in it's repo just like debian but never the latest version. PPA was only used to get the latest version on ubuntu and PPA has been obsolete for some time now. I will investigate the problem with debian. I am installing deb12 to a VM right now and will install their repo gambas then upgrade to deb13 by editing the sources.list file and see what errors i get. 

BruceS


On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 at 09:20, Admin <admin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    I understand your point of view, but I was not talking about any
    separate Gambas repository. Only the official Debian one. IIRC
    Ubuntu does not have Gambas packages in the repository and it
    requires adding gambas ppa. Not the case with Debian, but you
    still have to remove Gambas packages to update distro. It's not
    that I think it's important to add anything to a wiki page, I just
    added my two cents about the situation in debian, which, I repeat,
    I never saw as a bug and never asked for any help. Yet, that's a
    unique situation, that a package, installed from a default repo,
    prevents distupgrade. If it was due to any non-default ppa, there
    would have been nothing to talk about.

    25.11.2025 15:41, Bruce Steers пишет:

    I think if you have opened the /etc/apt/sources.list file to edit
    and changed bullseye to bookworm then you should have the
    intelligence to also change the Gambas repository links to
    bullseye as well, like willy said.

    "Edit all source references to point to the new distro (so gambas
    source reference included if installed from OSB for example)"

    The wiki is not "missing" any info. Unless it needs to be a
    complete idiot guide.

    ANY of you can add info to the wiki so add some if you feel it's
    important info.

    Why only write the info on the binary package install?, surely
    it's also missing from the compilation pages too with your logic?

    BruceS


    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025, 05:07 Admin, <admin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        24.11.2025 23:13, gbWilly пишет:
        > On Monday, November 24th, 2025 at 16:46, Gianluigi
        <gradobag@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
        >
        >> Benoit, gbWilly, Lee
        >>
        >> The wiki is missing a warning that when automatically
        upgrading to a
        >> later system version, you must delete the old Gambas and
        additional
        >> repositories, then reinstall everything following the
        instructions for
        >> the new system version.
        >>
        >> Regards
        >> Gianluigi
        > No you don't, you simply change the source to point to the
        newer distribution before you do a distro update (like from
        jammy to noble for example).
        >
        > Distro updates mainly comes down to:
        > apt-get update
        > apt-get upgrade
        > apt-get full-upgrade
        > apt-get autoremove
        > reboot
        >
        > Next prepare the system for the actual distro upgrade by:
        > Edit all source references to point to the new distro (so
        gambas source reference included if installed from OSB for
        example)
        >
        > Next do:
        > apt-get update
        > apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs (minimal upgrade -> advised)
        > apt-get full-upgrade
        > reboot
        >
        > Your system should reboot with your gambas3 upgraded
        > Where in that process do you see gambas being removed
        (provided you installed from repository)?
        >
        >
        > gbWilly
        >
        > GambOS
        > Gambas3 for Debian/Ubuntu
        >
        > ...there is always a Catch if things go wrong!
        >
        >
        >
        >
        Actually on Debian Gambas really prevents, for example,
        updating from 11
        to 12. If Gambas is installed under Debian 11, and you change
        bullseye
        to bookworm in sources.list, when dist-updating Gambas
        packages, it
        causes conflicts of dependencies. You have to remove Gambas
        first, then
        dist-upgrade, then install new Gambas from packages using
        apt. I cannot
        provide you with more information, I kinda got used to it,
        treating it
        as a feature, not a bug, and I don't remember which
        dependency was a
        problem, but I updated quite a few 11th to 12th always facing
        this
        problem, going through dpkg --fix-broken all the time. So
        yes, globally
        Gianluigi is right.

        Dmitry