Re: openSUSE build service : packages should work now

[PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 9:47 AM gbWilly <gbWilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Sunday, December 15th, 2024 at 04:16, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <
> mckaygerhard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Its clear you guys are lost in time: Currently many packages in debian
> are upstream ruled, means that packaging rules comes from original
> developers of the software.. first happened with LXDE packages and now many
> more.. is the only distro with this great feature
>
> Please enlighten us on how we can get debian to do exactly that ->
> "packaging rules comes from original developers of the software"
>
this is in sync with the other part at the last of the mail..


> This is also why I advise people who use gambas3 from official to
> completely remove gambas3 before installing from osb.
> It will NOT break your install if you don't (it will even run), but it
> will not replace gambas3-runtime, so you eventually will have do some extra
> work to get that replaced.
>
seems that you dont like to lost agains the debian team? we must try to
complain and also to get work with.. its difficult but not impossible


> As a matter of fact I advise people NOT to use official gambas3 and stay a
> way from it completly.
> > The OBS package is functional for installation, but in a dist upgrade it
> breaks everything..
> Well for a dist upgrade you do need to modify /etc/apt/sources.list to
> point to the proper distro version of gambas3 on osb, before doing the
> upgrade and all should work. You should know that.
>
do it and sometimes break so many things.. tried again later.. cos i noted
many changes again in OBS repo

have you tried it? cos i do and only works by removal and reinstall in dist
upgrade

> This is because you guys don't try (for eons) to coordinate and follow
> the Debian oficial package on salsa,
> Very in contrast to your earlier statement: "Currently many packages in
> debian are upstream ruled, means that packaging rules comes from original
> developers of the software.."
> Now, all of a sudden we need to comply to debian, who (as stated above)
> does a terrible job at packaging gambas3!!
>
yeah i know that.. but:


> And I tried 'coordinating' with Debain gambas package team (by e-mail, as
> that is the only means to get to them).
> They don't seem to care about "packaging rules comes from original
> developers of the software" as they just do their thing.
>
the problem is that you guys only see your community and does not take
intyo consideration that debian is a system with amny more packages..

each package need a system integration with the rest of the packaging
ecosystem.. not only gambas commnunity..

you guys are not an island.. but works as one.. and do you think what
happend if some of core of you dissapears? we are just humans!

that is a problem that debian conclave must deal.. but we understand it

>
> >which I know doesn't comply with Gambas' regulations, but they will avoid
> problems in OBS if they do this... you guys can't win everything, sometimes
> you have to give a bit
> > OBS is really a system of equivalences between RPM packages and other
> Linux systems, and therefore if you don't follow the distro policies you
> could generate confusing packages.
> >
> > My Gambas packages were always generated in OBS... by the way... I
> always coordinated them with the Debian ones...
>
> So, from my perspective you packaged the wrong packages...
>
>
> gbWilly
>


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