Re: Wayland Problems

[Bruce Steers <bsteers4@xxxxxxxxx>]

Use X11

x11 will vanish about as much as Gnome2 did.  (Ie It's still alive in MATE
and Cinnamon)

Wayland sucks so bad it will never become all there is.

Take for example the window positioning problem.
That's a wayland protocol.   it does not allow window positioning and
actively discourages it.
According to wayland protocols the compositor is now in charge of window
positions. if your window has a name than the compositor should restore
it's position.
Taking any control of position away from you.  There is nothing gambas can
do about that.
Except If you want window positioning/control ... uninstall wayland and use
X11 and complain as much as possible to the wayland developers about how
inadequate it is ;)

As for the other problems I don't know
but i know because of waylands window positioning attitude my computer will
NEVER be a limited wayland machine and X11 is not likely to vanish like
people fear.

BruceS


On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 at 05:44, Jorge Carrión <shordi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Looking to install Gambas3 version 19.1 from the Manjaro repositories, I
> have updated the branch to unstable. Everything seems to be going well. No
> errors. But this version uses wayland by default instead of X11. Here the
> problems started:
>
> -Wayland claims that it does not support any Stacking other than Normal
> (This is the least of the problems. I can live with that).
>
> -The main form always appears centered on the main desktop, regardless of
> the coordinates established via code or with settings.Read(Me).
>
> - A form can only be moved by dragging and dropping on the title bar. With
> Border = False you cannot move it via code.
>
> -The IgnoreTaskBar property does not work and the program always appears
> in the TaskBar. Programs that use a tryIcon and that open other forms
> always have two or more entries in the taskbar, one for the tryIcon form
> and another for each one that is opened from it.
>
> -The Stiky property also does not work and the form is only seen on the
> main screen of the virtual desktop where it is executed.
>
> All of this is important to me, I use a few desktop widgets of my own and
> one or two programs that use a TryIcon.
>
> I can change to X11 at Plasma Session boot... but it seems that Wayland is
> coming inexorably and that these problems will reappear.
>
> Greetings
>