Re: gambas very simple updater

[Jorge Carrión <shordi@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hey BruceS,

I think you overestimate the ability of the average office user... at least
those here, in Spain.

An example: A few years ago I made a crash ticket program for my users on
their computers. You opened the program (which was in the system menus),
you pressed print screen, with the error message visible, and you pressed
send. If necessary, you described in a text what you were doing when the
error message appeared.

It was installed on all machines, they were sent graphic and clear
instructions, including a video tutorial...

They used it for a month. The text was always "I got this error" and since
that generated phone calls asking for explanations, they stopped using it.
Instead, what they did was take a photo of the screen with their phones,
and send it to me via WhatsApp with a voice message attached... which
generated dozens of stupid voice messages and an absolute waste of time.

I read, I don't know where a long time ago, "It is useless to program for
stupid people because stupid people do very intelligent things..."

In the case we are talking about, just telling them "Download the source,
place this file there, open the console and run it..." would require 6
months of study.

Sorry for the noise. Retired old man things...

Best regards

El sáb, 6 abr 2024 a las 17:14, Bruce Steers (<bsteers4@xxxxxxxxx>)
escribió:

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> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/blob/bruces-patched/Install_Gambas.sh?ref_type=heads
>
> Remember that all bells and whistles installer script i made?
>
> well i just made a very, very simple one.  only 120 lines, about as simple
> as i could get it. it probably needs to be a bit less simple with some
> error handling and stuff.
>
> it does no detection and no downloading.
> It must be run from a gambas source folder
> (I have placed it in my fork and just used it on neon6 VM and it's working
> just as expected)
>
> it does the following...
>
> * Asks if you want to "run" the install commands or just show them.
> (just showing is good for testing it looks okay first)
>
> * Then asks you to select your os from the .gitlab-ci.yml file build list.
>
> * Then it will either print the commands you need to upgrade to autotools
> compiled version or run them all for you.
>
> If installing it pauses before running make install to warn to be sure
> packager installed gambas is removed before the next step.
>
> Maybe we could work on something like this to include in the main source
> to make the old "upgrading is too complicated for some" rhetoric obsolete ?
> :)
>
>
> Respects
> BruceS
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