[Gambas-user] Holidays again

richard terry rterry at internode.on.net
Tue Sep 1 03:31:27 CEST 2020

I think what a lot of people don't realise is that sudden deaths occur in
covid  due to embolic phenomena i.e stroke heart attack and pulmonary
emboli. In New York early of this was noticed by interventional
neurologists ,- nowadays they put up baskets and retract the acute clots.
They had young people presenting with acute strokes and as fast as they
sucked out the clot new ones formed before their eyes. If you are
interested in the possible aetiology look up the Medcram YouTube videos -
from memory they were Medcram 63 64 65. Bit as the covid series are up to
202ish now with my aging 68yr, memory I may be a digit out - watched them
months ago.

So... Quite possible your motor bike accident due to covid!!!!

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020, 08:44 Benoît Minisini, <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 30/08/2020 à 22:56, Jussi Lahtinen a écrit :
> >     800 000? How could we know? The COVID19 deaths and the influenza
> deaths
> >     are not counted the same way.
> >
> >
> > What do you mean? Majority of who die to influenza, die due indirect
> > causes; co-infections and organ failures.
> > I don't think there is any difference in how the deaths are counted.
> It should be, but apparently it isn't: there is almost no death of
> influenza this year in France. Either COVID 19 kills only people that
> would have died from flu, either people died for actually many reasons,
> and they chose COVID19 most of the time.
> In US, NCHS told that for 100 people officially died from COVID19, six
> died from COVID19 only. The other 94 had between 2 and 3 additional
> death conditions. So why focusing on COVID only? Are deaths counted
> several times in cases of comorbidities? Seems like a bug for me.
> >
> >     Moreover, a lot of deaths were first attributed to COVID19, and then
> >     attributed to something else a few
> >     months later.
> >
> >
> > I think it is the other way around. Only when we have enough
> > epidemiological data, we can say how many extra deaths were due to the
> > corona. IE how many healthy people die unexpectedly post the recovery to
> > the infection.
> > Now we only know that corona causes complications like strokes etc, but
> > we don't know the prevalence, because a lot of the cases are too much
> > separated by time.
> Indeed. But I saw many newspaper articles in different countries telling
> that death attributed to COVID were reattributed to something else (-121
> in Belgium, -5,300 in UK, -2,000 in Spain...). It's not telling us that
> counting methods are very accurate.
> Anyway, living in the country having one of the worst result on the
> planet if no the worst may make me not very objective. :-(
> --
> Benoît Minisini
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